I know I've made this thread before, but this matter is becoming more urgent every day. The kikes are going to come for imageboards sooner than later. We need an alternative to the internet and we need it soon. Something decentralized; something that (((they))) can't control.
So far there are only two viable alternatives that I know of.
1. HAMnet (http://www.broadband-hamnet.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_multimedia_radio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_radio)
>Broadband-Hamnet™ (formerly called HSMM-Mesh™) is a high speed, self discovering, self configuring, fault tolerant, wireless computer network that can run for days from a fully charged car battery, or indefinitely with the addition of a modest solar array or other supplemental power source. The focus is on emergency communications.
>In its current form it is built using the Linksys WRT54G/GL/GS wireless routers and operates on channels 1-6 of the 2.4GHz ISM band, which overlaps with the upper portion of the 13cm amateur radio band. Other platforms and bands include several types of Ubiquiti equipment in the 900MHz, 2.4GHz and 5.7GHz band. Adidtional features let signals come in on one band and leave on another without additional configuration. All mesh nodes on all bands exchange data so long as they are within range. We will be adding support for Ubiquiti 3.4GHz gear as well.
2. Skycoin (https://www.skycoin.net)
>Holding itself out as the “third generation cryptocurrency,” Skycoin aims to provide a “new internet” that is global, decentralized, and not controlled by any country
>It is incentivized. Skywire will develop to be a wireless mesh network (WMN). Users can earn both Skycoin and Coin Hours for running hardware nodes that provide both bandwidth and storage to the entire network. Users can then spend earned Coin Hours on content and other network resources, as they choose.
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More reading on skycoin https://medium.com/@bivins1/50-facts-you-need-to-know-about-skycoin-before-it-soars-ae396ff619b
The problem with this is HAM is expensive to get into and requires a licence and by the point when they are banning sites like our humble little image board it's likely they will already be regulating who is getting these licences.
>>219113
>The problem with this is HAM is expensive to get into and requires a licence
Why bother getting a license? As long as you don't use HAMnet at your home the FCC will never find you.
>The problem with this is HAM is expensive to get into and requires a licence
Why bother getting a license? As long as you don't use HAMnet at your home the FCC will never find you.
>>219103
You know, I've never bothered to look into cryptocurrencies, despite usually being pretty on the edge as far as technology's concerned. I pretty much considered it a meme and a Ponzi scheme when I saw both the "world-changing technology" headlines tripping over themselves to fellate it, and the hardware and power costs to invest into it, respectively.
Anyone into crypto here, quick question: was I wrong in my assessment?
You know, I've never bothered to look into cryptocurrencies, despite usually being pretty on the edge as far as technology's concerned. I pretty much considered it a meme and a Ponzi scheme when I saw both the "world-changing technology" headlines tripping over themselves to fellate it, and the hardware and power costs to invest into it, respectively.
Anyone into crypto here, quick question: was I wrong in my assessment?
>>219137
As I see it, current cryptos are a test run for the abolishment of cash. The obvious drawback that nobody mentions is that when a crypto holder wants to convert it to cash, then the options are pretty slim. The exchanges available are just a few and under the governments' microscope, then the main purpose, which is anonymity is gone.
As I see it, current cryptos are a test run for the abolishment of cash. The obvious drawback that nobody mentions is that when a crypto holder wants to convert it to cash, then the options are pretty slim. The exchanges available are just a few and under the governments' microscope, then the main purpose, which is anonymity is gone.
>>219138
Also it's untrustworthy as there have been several cases where exchange owners robbed everyone blind and ran off with the money. That is a huge put-off.
I'll trust an internet alternative when it's not relying on 20th-century technology and isn't monetized. The problem is that the internet we know and love came about after DARPAnet and huge investments over decades by some of the brightest people in the world. It's unlikely that a suitable alternative built from the ground up will require any less development.
It would be better to use existing internet infrastructure and modify it to operate on a separate, decentralized network. How that could work I have no idea.
Also it's untrustworthy as there have been several cases where exchange owners robbed everyone blind and ran off with the money. That is a huge put-off.
I'll trust an internet alternative when it's not relying on 20th-century technology and isn't monetized. The problem is that the internet we know and love came about after DARPAnet and huge investments over decades by some of the brightest people in the world. It's unlikely that a suitable alternative built from the ground up will require any less development.
It would be better to use existing internet infrastructure and modify it to operate on a separate, decentralized network. How that could work I have no idea.
>>219137
They're not really stable enough to be a sound alternative money yet. Gold is a better option.
They're not really stable enough to be a sound alternative money yet. Gold is a better option.
>>219143
sterling silver. it is more easily obtainable, is more usefull as a resource, can be made into more managable coins and disinfect wounds.
and create your own local currency. the german gouvernment prevents this sadly.
sterling silver. it is more easily obtainable, is more usefull as a resource, can be made into more managable coins and disinfect wounds.
and create your own local currency. the german gouvernment prevents this sadly.
>>219139
>I'll trust an internet alternative when it's not relying on 20th-century technology and isn't monetized.
Isn't the monetization a good thing because it incentivizes people to create nodes for skycoin?
>I'll trust an internet alternative when it's not relying on 20th-century technology and isn't monetized.
Isn't the monetization a good thing because it incentivizes people to create nodes for skycoin?
>>219138
>>219143
Good to know, thanks.
I'll consider adopting it if, and only if, it exits it's beta phase. I'd prefer if my time was wasted on betas, and not my money.
>>219139
You've got to remember that all technology is iterative in some way, and always recycles as much as it can to avoid reinventing the wheel. Two decades ago, we accessed the Internet via dial-up, and then by DSL; all of which leveraged existing phone lines. Even DOCSIS for high-speed home Internet nowadays still reuses traditional cable TV lines. It wasn't until the Internet really exploded that everyone could justify creating new infrastructure to accommodate it (a la fiber-optics).
It goes without saying that we'll be using existing infrastructure for whatever the Internet's successor will be; we'd have to be retarded not to. Not gonna lie though, I'm pretty stoked about what kind of system is gonna replace it, and what techniques the creators are gonna use to keep the normies off of it.
>>219143
Good to know, thanks.
I'll consider adopting it if, and only if, it exits it's beta phase. I'd prefer if my time was wasted on betas, and not my money.
>>219139
You've got to remember that all technology is iterative in some way, and always recycles as much as it can to avoid reinventing the wheel. Two decades ago, we accessed the Internet via dial-up, and then by DSL; all of which leveraged existing phone lines. Even DOCSIS for high-speed home Internet nowadays still reuses traditional cable TV lines. It wasn't until the Internet really exploded that everyone could justify creating new infrastructure to accommodate it (a la fiber-optics).
It goes without saying that we'll be using existing infrastructure for whatever the Internet's successor will be; we'd have to be retarded not to. Not gonna lie though, I'm pretty stoked about what kind of system is gonna replace it, and what techniques the creators are gonna use to keep the normies off of it.
>>219184
>and what techniques the creators are gonna use to keep the normies off of it.
Don't we want normies on the new internet so we can redpill them? Twitter was a good tool for redpilling normies for awhile.
>and what techniques the creators are gonna use to keep the normies off of it.
Don't we want normies on the new internet so we can redpill them? Twitter was a good tool for redpilling normies for awhile.
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>>219186
Oh, normies will find their way onto the new Internet no matter what happens. It's the fate of every spiffy invention made by the innovative outsider group to be overtaken by the normies, and Internet v1 is gonna make that process even faster.
But, while it remains ours, no reason we can't batten down the hatches and make it as obtuse as humanly possible. After all, today is the era of 'is there an app for that?'.
Oh, normies will find their way onto the new Internet no matter what happens. It's the fate of every spiffy invention made by the innovative outsider group to be overtaken by the normies, and Internet v1 is gonna make that process even faster.
But, while it remains ours, no reason we can't batten down the hatches and make it as obtuse as humanly possible. After all, today is the era of 'is there an app for that?'.
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>>219113
Ham radio isn't necessarily that expensive, but at least on this continent you aren't allowed to use encryption last I checked, so that seems pretty useless.
Slow, really slow, communication on the ISM band using something like LoRa could be a license-free option.
>>219137
Solution looking for a problem. The technical details are really neat and could be used for many useful things, the libertarian / austrian economics ideology driving its early adoption does not address any real problems people have, and in practice cryptocurrencies are too unstable to be useful.
Hasn't stopped some people from getting rich though, and if you happen to have a local source for exchanging coins with "real" money you could use it for anonymous payment for your VPN.
>>219184
Anything new pretty much will have to use Internet to move bits around, and just add on top of it. We can avoid using centralized infrastructure as much as possible (like DNS and hosting) and still have something useful. Freenet Project is a decent example of a privacy focused project that does this and IPFS is something else that seems to have at least some adoption.
Ham radio isn't necessarily that expensive, but at least on this continent you aren't allowed to use encryption last I checked, so that seems pretty useless.
Slow, really slow, communication on the ISM band using something like LoRa could be a license-free option.
>>219137
Solution looking for a problem. The technical details are really neat and could be used for many useful things, the libertarian / austrian economics ideology driving its early adoption does not address any real problems people have, and in practice cryptocurrencies are too unstable to be useful.
Hasn't stopped some people from getting rich though, and if you happen to have a local source for exchanging coins with "real" money you could use it for anonymous payment for your VPN.
>>219184
Anything new pretty much will have to use Internet to move bits around, and just add on top of it. We can avoid using centralized infrastructure as much as possible (like DNS and hosting) and still have something useful. Freenet Project is a decent example of a privacy focused project that does this and IPFS is something else that seems to have at least some adoption.
>>219139
>Also it's untrustworthy as there have been several cases where exchange owners robbed everyone blind and ran off with the money
You would have to be a total idiot to let an online exchange hold onto your coin. And there are many who did and many who do. I just don't understand it. Even if the exchange doesn't outright steal your money, they get hacked routinely. Some of those hacks are even real, and not the owners screaming "hack" and stealing your coin.
>Also it's untrustworthy as there have been several cases where exchange owners robbed everyone blind and ran off with the money
You would have to be a total idiot to let an online exchange hold onto your coin. And there are many who did and many who do. I just don't understand it. Even if the exchange doesn't outright steal your money, they get hacked routinely. Some of those hacks are even real, and not the owners screaming "hack" and stealing your coin.
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>>219143
>Gold is a better option.
Meme, gold as a currency isn't coming back as a viable exchange because governments control how you obtain it (and don't look like they want to stop controlling it). Crypto is mineable and because of privatized exchanges all around the world will not have this problem any time soon (it likely won't as well since China and Russia see it as a hedge against the dollar). Also gold is for savings while crypto due to it being risk prone (gambling on its future worth) is an investment. Its not a great idea comparing the two because of these reasons. I own both so both have their worth but just in different places.
>>219137
/biz/ here. Be wary of those shilling the fuck out of it. They are pajeets who want you to pump their shit. But be wary of those who shill against crypto. They have their financial interests elsewhere or are being contrarian. Crypto as a technology has good aims, that is helping decentralize power. Do I think it'll realistically be able to do it to the scale it wants to? Sorta, but buying small or perishable goods likely not. Buying a VPN? Already possible. Buying a larger good or service if its mass adopted? Also likely possible. Will it be mass adopted? I think so yeah. Look more into the blockchain technology in general. Then into Etherium and the fact that cryptography decentralizes itself and all the possibilities it has from there with suppychains, smart contracts, and more-dark coin esc tokens. Needless to say I am very into crypto because after researching it I find it can help with right wing movements goals of decentralization a lot if mass adopted. This is why I think in the end it will be mass adopted, that is the right wing will see it in their interest to use it. Could be wrong given the amount of shit it gets on here and /pol/ but if your against crypto your against a potential tool that could help decentralization movements.
>>219218
This, though keeping crypto on an exchange is helpful if you do a lot of trading, but even then you want to diversify given the risk. Legders and the Trezors pretty much make it so you can't loose your coins. Personally I like ledgers more but Trezors aren't bad.
>Gold is a better option.
Meme, gold as a currency isn't coming back as a viable exchange because governments control how you obtain it (and don't look like they want to stop controlling it). Crypto is mineable and because of privatized exchanges all around the world will not have this problem any time soon (it likely won't as well since China and Russia see it as a hedge against the dollar). Also gold is for savings while crypto due to it being risk prone (gambling on its future worth) is an investment. Its not a great idea comparing the two because of these reasons. I own both so both have their worth but just in different places.
>>219137
/biz/ here. Be wary of those shilling the fuck out of it. They are pajeets who want you to pump their shit. But be wary of those who shill against crypto. They have their financial interests elsewhere or are being contrarian. Crypto as a technology has good aims, that is helping decentralize power. Do I think it'll realistically be able to do it to the scale it wants to? Sorta, but buying small or perishable goods likely not. Buying a VPN? Already possible. Buying a larger good or service if its mass adopted? Also likely possible. Will it be mass adopted? I think so yeah. Look more into the blockchain technology in general. Then into Etherium and the fact that cryptography decentralizes itself and all the possibilities it has from there with suppychains, smart contracts, and more-dark coin esc tokens. Needless to say I am very into crypto because after researching it I find it can help with right wing movements goals of decentralization a lot if mass adopted. This is why I think in the end it will be mass adopted, that is the right wing will see it in their interest to use it. Could be wrong given the amount of shit it gets on here and /pol/ but if your against crypto your against a potential tool that could help decentralization movements.
>>219218
This, though keeping crypto on an exchange is helpful if you do a lot of trading, but even then you want to diversify given the risk. Legders and the Trezors pretty much make it so you can't loose your coins. Personally I like ledgers more but Trezors aren't bad.
>>219220
>helpful if you do a lot of trading
why would anyone do a lot of trading with transaction costs upwards of 10%?
>helpful if you do a lot of trading
why would anyone do a lot of trading with transaction costs upwards of 10%?
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