5 bucks on the religion of peace.
>>217360Let me raise it by sixty five SEK that it is some wayward Inuits behind this.
Macron Le traître is addressing the nation. I guess it will be another faulty circuit or misunderstanding somewhere along the line that caused this terrible event.
reminder, the longer it takes the media to confirm the indentity of the suspect, the less likely it is that it is a straight white christian male.
The spire of the Church, a treasure of European history, has collapsed.
https://www.rt.com/news/456616-spire-of-notre-dame-cathedral/ >>217377>Macron Le traître is addressing the nation. I guess it will be another faulty circuit or misunderstanding somewhere along the line that caused this terrible event.A cultural misunderstanding.
>>217411People are reporting that it was hired migrants who did construction work on the roof. Who apparently left a blowtorch going on the floor as they walked away to take care of other shit.
The destruction of priceless historical artifacts, especially religious ones, is part and parcel to inviting Muslims into your homeland. They've done this since the earliest days of Islam.
>>217427Live chat closed . . . of course. Sigh.
>>217427This is sad to watch such a beautiful building up in flames.
>Notre Dame is burning
>mfw
Is this it lads? The beginning of the end? Because I'm ready.
>>217431It truly is.
We can only hope this makes the French people find their way back to God so that some good can come from this tragedy.
>>217434Didn't know it was a Zionist place. This I need to know more about. However, the building is valuable in itself, the occupants is an entirely different story, right?
>>217434If Zionism creates great, awe inspiring art like Notre Dame that defines the cultural cores of nations like France for 800 years, then Zionism sounds like a good thing
>>217436It’s a Christian Cathedral of the gothic style constructed over the course of more than a century. It’s been known as one of the centerpieces of French architecture for centuries. The radicals of the French Revolution briefly turned it into a “temple of reason” for its symbolic value.
>>217440Oh, I see. So it was converted for a short time as a social symbol to inspire the masses that their revolution had a higher creed. This isn't Zionism though; not that I much care about this particular thing. I care more about to expose and understand agendas and who is behind them, which involves Zionists I'm sure heh.
>>217442I think that he was calling the Roman Catholic Church Zionist (they’ve owned it for most of its history), which I sort of can understand, but the Cathedral is far more than that. It is a great artistic achievement, a part of the collective culture of France, and one of many achievements of Western culture.
Fuck I just realized something. If Notre Dame is totally destroyed the Globalists will probably lobby to build a Multiethic and Multireligious center in its place to "commemorate" Notre Dame.
>>217444This is just heartbreaking.
>>217445Thanks for the explanation, don't know much about who did rule what and the origins of these rulers.
Absolutely, this Church is far more than just a place that was owned by Zionists.
>>217448It really hurts to see something beutiful as Notre-Dame burn down and the incompetent fucks who are put on fire duty are bumbling about doing nothing.
Cristophe Girard, Deputy Mayor of Paris,
ended the interview on CBSN by saying "We don't like Brexit".
Using the tradgedy of Notre Dame to push the globalist and EU agenda is truly despicable.
>>217473If true, this might ignite a nationalist rise. I hope.
>>217347I'm shaking.
In the week of Easter the beloved cathedral burns ablaze.
It is a harbinger of the fall of us.
Will we answer this call to action?
>>217485There won't be any call. Too few and if some lone wolf answers it will harm any goal to further the interest of the West, of Whites. People are thorougly retarded and won't understand that this will be used to push diversity and tolerans. Politicans are already pushing anti-nationalist bullshit using this incident.
I'm burning inside with rage and sorrow.
Lel I ain't even mad.
Reap what you saw, France.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLG1ys2CGcIThis makes me sad. Setting aside feeling about the Catholic Church or the idea that this could be arson; Notre-Dame was a beautiful work of architecture and a historical landmark. If it is destroyed it will be a loss not only of the art and similar inside, and for people who have not seen it. I haven't, but I had hoped to someday.
>>217480And this makes me mad, using tragedy to push an agenda
while the tragedy is ongoing.One month to the day after Tarrant begins the war.
Things cannot go back to the old comfortable slow death. Let this serve as a reminder.
>>217347I will be brutally honest, I know this will piss a lot of you off but going to say the truth here.
This is a good thing, during my time traveling around the internet, meeting others around the world, studying other nations, their cultures, etc the death of Notre-Dame is a blessing in disguise. Europe is a dead content, the people are European in Name alone and will only grow weaker and less European with time. The people of Europe are spineless, pathetic lots, willing to give up their wives, children, selves and nations to the Muslim hoards. With how important Notre-Dame is to France, western culture and Christianity when the Muslims begin their full overthrowing of the weak minded and weak spirited pathetic excuse for Europeans the Muslims hoards would have made the steps of Notre-Dame flow red with their blood before turning it into a Mosque. So in a sense it burning down is the best outcome for it I would rather have it burnt to the ground than suffer like St Sophia's in Istanbul when it was renamed and became Hagia Sophia.
>>217494"Hagia Sophia" is the original Greek name. It's Greek for "Holy Wisdom."
>>217486>There won't be any call.The Notre Dame is the call!
>Too few and if some lone wolf answers it will harm any goal to further the interest of the West, of Whites.The black pill never worked on me. I just struggle with sloth; I think it died today.
The call to action is not some unformulated act of rage that we know will fail. Think of solutions for Notre Dame's sake!
Will you let is burn in vain!
We Must unit, in cause. And we must be cunning about it, sound familiar.
I will fight until I am no longer. Tell me is there any better honor than to subdue those who deceive, subjugate and destroy all things good.
>videos of fire from (what I think is) surveillance cameras on roof
Article from March 21 2019:
>CATHOLIC CHURCHES ARE BEING DESECRATED ACROSS FRANCE—AND OFFICIALS DON’T KNOW WHY>France has seen a spate of attacks against Catholic churches since the start of the year, vandalism that has included arson and desecration.>Vandals have smashed statues, knocked down tabernacles, scattered or destroyed the Eucharist and torn down crosses, sparking fears of a rise in anti-Catholic sentiment in the country.>Last Sunday, the historic Church of St. Sulpice in Paris was set on fire just after midday mass on Sunday, Le Parisien reported, although no one was injured. Police are still investigating the attack, which firefighters have confidently attributed to arson.>Last month, at the St. Nicholas Catholic Church in Houilles, in north-central France, a statue of the Virgin Mary was found smashed, and the altar cross had been thrown on the ground, according to La Croix International, a Catholic publication.>Also in February, at Saint-Alain Cathedral in Lavaur, in south-central France, an altar cloth was burned and crosses and statues of saints were smashed. The attack prompted Lavaur Mayor Bernard Canyon to say in a statement: “God will forgive. Not me.”>And in the southern city of Nimes, near the Spanish border, vandals looted the altar of the church of Notre-Dame des Enfants (Our Lady of the Children) and smeared a cross with human excrement.>The Vienna-based Observatory of Intolerance and Discrimination Against Christians in Europe, which was founded in cooperation with the Council of European Bishops >Conferences (CCEE) but is now independent said there had been a 25 percent increase in attacks on Catholic churches in the first two months of the year, compared with the same time last year.>Its executive director, Ellen Fantini, told Newsweek that while in many cases the motive for the attacks was not known, France faced growing problems with anti-Christian violence, especially by anarchist and feminist groups.>“I think there is a rising hostility in France against the church and its symbols," but "it seems to be more against Christianity and the symbols of Christianity.>“These attacks are on symbols that are really sacred to parishioners, to Catholics. Desecration of consecrated hosts is a very personal attack on Catholicism and Christianity, more than spray-painting a slogan on the outside wall of a church.”http://archive.is/fqP9QPaintings are fucked but hey, they can be redone.
Polish renovators will most likely ask if they can help with it. We have some of the best folks in the business.
>>217521I actually unironically think you are right. Polish renovators will respect the sanctity of the building and will take care to do their best work ever.
>unless I am overlooking some vital information about the Polish people >>217486>People are thorougly retarded and won't understand that this will be used to push diversity and tolerans.Yes, it can be but tell me did it work on y'all?
There will always be unawoken masses but we who know can do our best to steer the world in the direction we want it to go. Some people will begin to see.
Am I wasting my time?
>>217529I think if Notre Dame isn't rebuild or they try to rebuild it as a multicultural center they will be injecting NOX into the A C C E L E R A T I O N.
>>217347There are no accidents and i want die.
I'm so tired of these God dammed kikes
>>217366100 Vietnamese dong that macron ordered the burning to avert attention from yellow jackets and immigration crisis.
>>217548I Would Believe that. i bet he did.
>>217497You're doing a good thing, anon.
Despairing without action is one of the problems of the blackpilled. Alot of world changing events happen because someone fought against it knowing the odds were not in their favor.
Just like Vlad the impaler.
>>217595>2nd picThose are the faces of dying nation.
>>217494Maybe you're right, maybe this is the best outcome of a dying culture and continent. It is hard to swallow the truth, Europeans are unbelievably weak. We do not put a fight, we do not demand foreigners to integrate or respect our cultures and laws, we discriminate in favor of foreigners, we refuse to acknowledge the fact that we Europeans have fought non-Whites hordes for thousands of years to survive, and that we're in war with foreign cultures, especially Islam.
I won't give up, even if I have begun swallowing the Black pill.
>>217497I do what I can, even if the Black pull is swallowed by me I will still try finding a way to improve the outcomes for my people and Europeans as a whole. Allowing despair to rob me of the ability to act is something I believe will never happen, I will always try to improve the situation.
>>217529I always try to wake people up, I do it openly and unabashed on several media platforms.
>>217548Wouldn't surprise me, even if I believe it to be a conspiracy theory.
>>217548>macron ordered the burning to avert attention from yellow jackets and immigration crisis.As fucked as macron is, he couldn't possibly believe he would benefit from burning down notre dame. No way. That would be securing his place in history as french benedict arnold if a hint of that information got out.
He's more likely run over his people with tanks while standing atop notre dame and crowning himself emperor of france. **Not entirely unlikely actually, hope he doesn't read /mlpol/.**
>>217610skip those blackpills. help to wake your fellow man. hold the iron pill.
digest those black pills and shit whitepills for the future,maybe even after the fall. don't over inflate red pills to black pills. if you can stand, you are not yet beaten. defeat is a state of mind. /sig/ heil
I really hate to be glib about this but I have to say it's an eerily perfect metaphor for the current state of Western civilization.
>>217644You are totally right. I just hope the fire will awaken a sense of honor and wish to preserve and continue the heritage in the European people.
>>217635White pill? I wish I had the wherewithal, as for now, it looks as if I'm stuck in being grey pilled. This is not to mouth that I concede a defeat but that I'm very tired and is simply trudging on.
When I talk with people around me, those that I trust enough to be blunt and honest towards, almost no one disagrees with the observation that the West is dying, feminism has ruined our culture, and that immigration is negative. Very few have argued against me when I pointed out that immigration is a danger and a burden. I wish their approval would also lead to tangible actions, instead they either vote Social Democrat or for other parties who are overtly pro-migration and anti-White. After the latest election here in Sweden, I'm just so tired and have more or less adopted a parodic attitude towards the world, I'm simply laughing at all the shit and pointing out how it was just desert for being retarded.
>>217644It has an eery synchronistic symbolic relationship to the decline of Western societies.
>>217649ask them why they still vote shit and help them find answers and alternatives. spread small iron pills. try to gind other iron pilled people.
>>217429Ok anons, the time for mourning is over, the time for memes in now. Shoopfag reporting for duty, feed me some ideas to tar muslims and other immigrants.
>>217673What if (((they))) are using Notre Dame fire, just like how Hitler used the Reichstag fire...
think about it....
>>217676I don't care what (((they))) are doing, I only care on how to rally more to our side.
>>217676Reichtag fire: (according to jews):
THE REICHSTAG FIRE
On February 27, 1933, the German parliament (Reichstag) building burned down. The Nazi leadership and its coalition partners used the fire to claim that Communists were planning a violent uprising. They claimed that emergency legislation was needed to prevent this. The resulting act, commonly known as the Reichstag Fire Decree, abolished a number of constitutional protections and paved the way for Nazi dictatorship.
implemented one day after the fire, the decree suspended the right to assembly, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and other constitutional protections, including all restraints on police investigations. It remained in effect until Nazi Germany was defeated in May 1945.
2
The decree permitted the regime to arrest and incarcerate political opponents without specific charge, to dissolve political organizations, and to confiscate private property.
3
The decree also gave the regime the authority to overrule state and local laws and overthrow state and local governments.
>>217676Using it for what? What’s the play?
>>217681Why would what the French press refers to as an accidental fire nothing-to-see-here situation be a pretext to basically abolish the constitution?
>>217676So far, everyone in power is saying (((accident))). If they were pulling a Reichstag fire, they would be saying someone did it.
But, how do WE use this to rally people to our cause?
>>217683you are right. we must think something
Why has no one mentioned anything about the Al-Aqsa Mosque fire?
>>217703>No injuries or damage was reported during the short blaze.That's why. Plus it's a mosque, so i'd be glad if it went up in flames. It supposedly started in the guard's room, so, sounds like an errant cigarette or something.
>>217709This one is more visible in a thumbnail.
**This one makes me sad.**
>>217612>>217614Attaboy.
>>217592To not giving them what they want!
I'd very much like to see more evidence concerning the cause of the fire, but the following are what I think are the three most likely scenarios.
1: legitimate accident. Sometimes disasters happen despite the most exhaustive of precautions.
2: Islamic arsonist who wanted to destroy a significant Christian site.
3: EU Deep State arsonist. The EU faces the threat of being torn apart by events like Brexit and other nations following in Britain's footsteps. An attack on a globally admired Christian symbol allows the EU an opportunity to to push a bunch of narratives. By showing select Muslims comforting Christians for their loss, they can build up support for Muslim immigration. Also, they can build up support for the hyper-wealthy EU elite and the EU in general by clearing up the red tape and pouring tons of resources into the restoration process in order to restore the cathedral in record time. They can run a narrative that the restoration was so successful because of the contributions of EU and that France wouldn't have been able to match the feat on her own.
>>217731Both the the Boston Marathon bombing and the sinking of the Titanic happened on the 15th of April.
And so did the Notre Dame fire.
>>217802>>217803Well, scaffolding is already there so less of a job for reconstruction crew.
>>217804Metal that has been in a fire is no longer reliable, it will all have to be replace.
>>217860as i said many times, the (((honk))) pill was not meant to last, laughter is only a placebo to reality. (sorry Pinkie)
we will always go back to the völkisch IRON PILL.
Kek Vult
The multicultural destruction of Notre Dame have begun.
I thought they would at least wait some time before doing it.
>France will open the redesign of Notre-Dame de Paris cathedral's historic spire to international architects after Monday night's catastrophic blaze that gutted the centuries-old roof and sent the towering spire crashing through the vaulted ceiling.>The government's announcement on Wednesday added to a question many are asking as France grieves for its damaged national symbol - whether the familiar outline at the heart of the capital should be restored exactly as it was or given a modern twist.>"The international competition will allow us to ask the question of whether we should even recreate the spire as it was conceived by Viollet-le-Duc," Prime Minister Edouard Philippe said.>"Or whether, as is often the case during the evolution of heritage, we should endow Notre-Dame with a new spire that reflects the techniques and challenges of our era."http://archive.is/x3eYY>reflects the techniques and challenges of our era>techniques and challenges of our era>challenges of our era>inb4 there will be a half moon on top of that spire>>217880>>217882great effortpost here again Norway Anon
also starting to wonder who owns this cathedral and would profit most of it being destroyed. This might have been some big ass insurance fraud as well.
>>217887What the fuck is that video?
>>217882This could be allowed to happen to enrage people further. There would be no better physical symbol of the replacement than a "modern" Notre Dame spire, at least for the french and catholics. If they go down this road, we'll need to think about how to meme this for maximum effect, I'm a fan of calling it the 'Replacement Spire' myself.
>>217889I agree. The fact that they engaged in the replacement of tradition and erasing of history this soon could get people open their eyes. They are basically rubbing salt into an open wound.
The problem is, how cucked is the rest of the population? And will the Christians allow nonbelievers to dictate how their house of worship should be?
>>217890>And will the Christians allow nonbelievers to dictate how their house of worship should be?Hasn't Christians in the West been advancing backward to appease their opposition? All to gain that tiny bit of respect and a rhetorical shield against anyone claiming they're narrow-minded, stuck in the past, or whatever detractors attack them with. For decades the church has been doing their best to depict themselves as modern through adopting the slogans and values of groups who have been undermining them for decades. I doubt they will stand firm against such a tolerant and modern push.
>>217891>I doubt they will stand firm against such a tolerant and modern push.I am fearing the same. But I hope they at least have a limit, and fucking with a cathedral is beyond that limit. Then again the Pope is a total cuck and would turn the Vatican into a Muslim Caliphate if asked to. I just hope that the Christians will have an awakening and see the evil path the pope and other clerics want to lead them down.
>>217891>Hasn't Christians in the West been advancing backward to appease their opposition? All to gain that tiny bit of respect and a rhetorical shield against anyone claiming they're narrow-minded, stuck in the past, or whatever detractors attack them with. For decades the church has been doing their best to depict themselves as modern through adopting the slogans and values of groups who have been undermining them for decades.They Have in North America.
>I doubt they will stand firm against such a tolerant and modern push.I hope you are right, but the average pew sitter,will do what ever their pastor or priest tells them to do. and most if not all church leaders today are controlled by the kikes. and lets not forget how they pastors in Rhodesia and South Africa,betrayed our people.
shoutout to the Anon who posted this in the news thread
Hal Turner show published this
intel about church burning around the world, including russia and australia
also video footage of an arabian looking man in a white garb who was spotted in the Notre Dame cathedral be cameras right before the fires started
2 Muslim women in France were arrested in november for trying to set fire to a church
both wore religious clothing
this was not covered by the internet or other newspapers
only i small newspaper printed it in a small article
if this isnt active state mandated news censorship i dont know what is
>>217915It has been reported that the video is out of context, and that is an firefighter. But it is hard to tell due to low quality, and I don't know how long after the fire started the video is from. Also something/someone must have started the fire too.
https://twitter.com/Frohike10/status/1118272115701157889 >>217922>>217922Don't firemen usually wear yellow body suits. Why would one of them suddenly don a white dress and skulk about the church alone without gear
>>217926I agree. It looks like a Muslim to me too. But we need more info about timeframe for the video to make more informed judgment of what and who that is.
>>217922The man crossing seems to have happen after the spire & roof collapsed.
>>217429 See that the fire waned and it's late evening.
>>217915>Image >>217673"Don't expect strangers to preserve your heritage" or something along those lines, similar to the "you can't build your future with someone else's children" line.
>>218096I swear to God if they graft some kind of postmodern abomination onto that beautiful cathedral, or start replacing ancient sculptures and murals with diversity propaganda, and it doesn't provoke a violent and nationwide citizens' uprising, France should be officially designated a non-white country and have its remaining white citizens officially barred from the ethnostate.
>>218096As predicted Macron went full NWO and went for the cultural genocide of western culture.
>>218096>>218104... but then again I can't find the tweet, so possibly false tweet, but still a plausible statement from Macron
>>218096Careful, don't allow your own imagination to run amok. That might be false, but it wouldn't surprise me if that's their intention.
I have found evidence suggesting that it wasn't the Muslims that started the fire.
>>218383Wasn't that when the alarm first went?
>>218420Because, as far as I know, there are always two guards stationed at the spire to prevent fires. Maybe that can be the answer to what actually happened.
>>218426Hmm.. so how come they were absent?
>>218427If they were then that's breaking with the protocol. If so, then we're looking at pure incompetence or deliberate intent to destroy a Western historical landmark.
Fire will fall upon those who set it on, it won't be forgotten.