This won't be a blog post but at this point I think I'm ready to leave racialism. I think everyone should at this point and I'll list my thoughts on it bellow. Yes before you ask I'm a regular here and been here since 4/mlpol/ I'm not a shill just read my thoughts and criticize them accordingly.
So let me start with this. Racialism is wrong when it comes to "whiteness". Whiteness is a problematic term since there have been 3 white races throughout time and to say that there is one is wrong when you consider the cultural and spiritual natures of these three different races. The first race of whites were the Greco -Roman which are not Germanic, which is the Western White race. The last one is the Slavic White race. All three groups are separate due to spiritual differences (so culture). At its easiest to explain to a racialist, why is Ukraine and most of the soviet states doing so shit when the Baltic states are doing quiet well? Its because Ukrainians are Slavs and westerns live in the Baltic. The Baltic peoples are Western in outlook and share our lust for technology while Slavs rarely do.
Same goes with Meds. I've seen a meme where it compares a German straw hut to a Roman Colosseum to mock the German for his primitiveness while the Med was at the height of his civilization. The position has largely been changed now with true meds really only living in southern Italy (surprise the shittiest part) while the remaining are all Germanic peoples (Lombard in the case of Italy.) The Mediterranean peoples also have a unique cultural outlook different from that of the Western so its pretty useless to lump these three groups of "whites" into one category especially considering how costly it is to use such a term in modern society.
So why is it that we ended up confusing Western with "white"? Easy two myths got us confused on such a path. The first of the two was created by the Italians. That is they were Romans, when they are not. Again Lombard tribes moved into Italy and kicked the Byzantines out and colonized Northern Italy. The southern Italians are those more Roman-esc but they are a defeated people. But everywhere around them they saw Roman works and soon before you knew it they began reading their works. To them then it became enshrined in myth that they were Rome's successor peoples. Thus they carried the myth to all of Europe that Rome's successor people were the men of the West. After all late Rome was Christian, and the Italians were Western and if they were formerly the Romans then that must mean Rome was an extension of our people. This myth however is wrong. We were the murders of Rome, not their successors.
The myth created with Russia and the Slavs was even more dangerous. Its because the Slavs aren't a dead people who we killed like the Grecco-Romans but a people coming into being. They are analogous to the barbarians North of Rome towards the west, a young people full of Heroism and hatred towards what the west has become. However to survive against the West Peter the great imported Westernism into the Slavic heart lands. To compete against the machine he wooed westerns into his cities where they would form artificial enclaves in places like St. Petersberg. But this would crack and die off soon. The Russian Revolution would be the first step towards the end of Peter's system. Stalin would soon purge most westerns within the Slavic heart lands and when communism broke down the last Western idea within the Russian people too would die off. Now Russia is entirely Slavic in its soul with the big cities in Russia becoming eaten away by true Russian culture.
The remaining parts of the Eastern world has followed suit. Poland and Hungary refuse to be suicidal like the western portions of the EU because they are young and full of potential. Romania and Bulgaria enter the EU like how we 1000 years ago took Jews into our courts. We hated the Jews for they represented and older cultural form of decay but wished to have what they offered, which was growth and the magic of usury. So too Slavs ask for our material resources but refuse the suicide we are undertaking within the west.
Now my last point is the controversial one. Which is that this doesn't necessarily have to do with race. These cultural forms can take place in any human who lives within a culture and is not mentally inhibited to understand its meaning. Take Asians for instance. If they remain separate from their communities they can become nearly exactly like whites in their outlook. I've known too many Asians who are more spiritual akin to me then a Slav. That said I understand that blacks often times cannot ascend to this cognitive capability to be consider brothers of the west. They are unable to process time to our same degree. A few other peoples remain too primitive in this regard as well (some islanders and a few native groups) but even withing these groups many individuals can do ascend to a position of spiritual brotherhood through cultural understanding.
So I call that racialists understand this case but also understand a even deeper problem. It is not a material problem or a strategic problem I care little for either. But it is a problem of the soul. Western culture at the moment is decayed to a point where it may not be able to be revived. Western man is suicidal and wishes to take on those who do not share his spirit because he hates his own soul. I ask, is one's soul worth saving if they wish to take it? I'm not certain anymore on this and have been thinking deeply on this for the past few months (since Ryan had his video claiming he was also leaving alt-right-esc movements and racialism).
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Even if their are 3 white races we should still band together because we share a common threat. Whites are being replaced in their home countries through immigration and you can be sure that the migrant hordes can't tell the difference between Slavs, Germanics, and Mediterraneans. We are all privileged whites to them.
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>>215599
>I think I'm ready to leave racialism
Your motivation looks to me like you overdosed with redpills, which now are blackpills.
Relax anon, take your distance and look around, we may not save a civilization which does not want to be saved, however, we must regroup to rebuild and "RACE" is the glue that will keep us together.
>I think I'm ready to leave racialism
Your motivation looks to me like you overdosed with redpills, which now are blackpills.
Relax anon, take your distance and look around, we may not save a civilization which does not want to be saved, however, we must regroup to rebuild and "RACE" is the glue that will keep us together.
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>>215599
I don't focus as much on all the "are X white?" stuff that you get on /pol/, but as I understand it all whites can basically trace their roots back to the same Indo-Aryan or Indo-European or whatever the fuck it's called civilization, so Germanics, Nordics, Mediterraneans, Anglos, and maybe Slavs (not really sure about them) are all descended from the same basic group of ancestors, whereas Asians (the slant-eyed kind anyway) and Negroes are pretty much separate evolutionary branches. Most Islander peoples developed in isolation for so long they're pretty much their own separate thing too, Australian Abbos for example are literally so different from us that they're almost a completely different species.
More significant than ancient ancestry though, all whites are basically lumped together by all non-whites regardless of how we see ourselves. If you're just talking about the superficial aspects of a culture, then yes just about any group can adopt the culture of another group, and no one culture can really be said to be completely free of influence from any other culture in a world where global communication and travel is possible. However, every culture that adopts that of another usually absorbs it into its own in some way, and the original culture dominates. Modern Asian countries like Japan or S. Korea might appear superficially Western in many ways, but their version of our culture is very different from ours and has a distinctly Asian flavor to it. We absorb shit from them too, like anime and whatnot, but we Westernize it and create our own version of it. When the Germanic tribes invaded Rome and basically replaced the Roman empire, they absorbed aspects of Roman culture but it became a distinctly Germanic version of Roman culture, not strictly Roman. Romans did the same thing with Greek culture when they conquered them.
Some cultures coexist more easily than others, but in general people stick with their own kind and see people of other races as outsiders, even if they are on friendly terms. In particular, non-whites identify mostly with their own groups and see themselves as members of a culture distinct from "white" culture, even if they are pretty much Westernized to the point that there is little real cultural difference between them. Asians in America are a good example of this. By and large, Asians tend to assimilate well. They learn English, work in the same industries as white Americans, don't commit crimes or cause problems, and generally dress, speak and behave the same as Whites. However, if you get to know one, you will discover that they generally identify as Asian first and American second, and consider themselves part of a distinctly different group from Whites. Even a person of Japanese descent born and raised in America, who has more in common with his white friends than he would with someone in his own country, will usually identify as Japanese-American rather than simply American. An American black has almost nothing in common with an African, but blacks always identify as African.
So, in short, we're pretty much back to the old "CivNat" argument here: can racial groups get along, and if so can they form a nation based on cultural beliefs and values rather than on race? The answer to the first question is yes, but the second is mostly no. Mostly what you end up with in trying to do something like this is a situation like modern America, where everyone superficially pays lip service to the idea that we're all one nation, but identifies with their own ethnic subgroup nonetheless. Whites, be they Med, Anglo, Germanic, Nordic, Slav, whatever, will always be lumped into the same generic "White" category by Asians, blacks, etc. These non-white subgroups, even if they don't directly cause trouble, will still constantly undermine and take advantage of Whites. Thus, even though the overculture can basically function, it's not a nation in the true sense of the word, and it never will be. Even if race were just some kind of "social construct" or whatever the fuck, it still matters. People identify with their race more than the superficial aspects of the culture they belong to, and for whites to not do the same just works against us.
To put it simply: culture can transcend blood and different peoples can share a common culture, but ultimately blood, not culture, is what binds people together.
I don't focus as much on all the "are X white?" stuff that you get on /pol/, but as I understand it all whites can basically trace their roots back to the same Indo-Aryan or Indo-European or whatever the fuck it's called civilization, so Germanics, Nordics, Mediterraneans, Anglos, and maybe Slavs (not really sure about them) are all descended from the same basic group of ancestors, whereas Asians (the slant-eyed kind anyway) and Negroes are pretty much separate evolutionary branches. Most Islander peoples developed in isolation for so long they're pretty much their own separate thing too, Australian Abbos for example are literally so different from us that they're almost a completely different species.
More significant than ancient ancestry though, all whites are basically lumped together by all non-whites regardless of how we see ourselves. If you're just talking about the superficial aspects of a culture, then yes just about any group can adopt the culture of another group, and no one culture can really be said to be completely free of influence from any other culture in a world where global communication and travel is possible. However, every culture that adopts that of another usually absorbs it into its own in some way, and the original culture dominates. Modern Asian countries like Japan or S. Korea might appear superficially Western in many ways, but their version of our culture is very different from ours and has a distinctly Asian flavor to it. We absorb shit from them too, like anime and whatnot, but we Westernize it and create our own version of it. When the Germanic tribes invaded Rome and basically replaced the Roman empire, they absorbed aspects of Roman culture but it became a distinctly Germanic version of Roman culture, not strictly Roman. Romans did the same thing with Greek culture when they conquered them.
Some cultures coexist more easily than others, but in general people stick with their own kind and see people of other races as outsiders, even if they are on friendly terms. In particular, non-whites identify mostly with their own groups and see themselves as members of a culture distinct from "white" culture, even if they are pretty much Westernized to the point that there is little real cultural difference between them. Asians in America are a good example of this. By and large, Asians tend to assimilate well. They learn English, work in the same industries as white Americans, don't commit crimes or cause problems, and generally dress, speak and behave the same as Whites. However, if you get to know one, you will discover that they generally identify as Asian first and American second, and consider themselves part of a distinctly different group from Whites. Even a person of Japanese descent born and raised in America, who has more in common with his white friends than he would with someone in his own country, will usually identify as Japanese-American rather than simply American. An American black has almost nothing in common with an African, but blacks always identify as African.
So, in short, we're pretty much back to the old "CivNat" argument here: can racial groups get along, and if so can they form a nation based on cultural beliefs and values rather than on race? The answer to the first question is yes, but the second is mostly no. Mostly what you end up with in trying to do something like this is a situation like modern America, where everyone superficially pays lip service to the idea that we're all one nation, but identifies with their own ethnic subgroup nonetheless. Whites, be they Med, Anglo, Germanic, Nordic, Slav, whatever, will always be lumped into the same generic "White" category by Asians, blacks, etc. These non-white subgroups, even if they don't directly cause trouble, will still constantly undermine and take advantage of Whites. Thus, even though the overculture can basically function, it's not a nation in the true sense of the word, and it never will be. Even if race were just some kind of "social construct" or whatever the fuck, it still matters. People identify with their race more than the superficial aspects of the culture they belong to, and for whites to not do the same just works against us.
To put it simply: culture can transcend blood and different peoples can share a common culture, but ultimately blood, not culture, is what binds people together.
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>>215631
>"RACE" is the glue that will keep us together.
For OP.
It's just a statistical indicator of that person won't do bad shit or their children's children.
Culture and Spirit can be taught, molded, shaped, and chipped. Genetics (DNA, RNA, bacteria) and if you believe in spooky /x/ stuff that too plays a role.
Humans are tribally inclined to survive other species amd breeds of humans.
We have hardware that works still. The software has malicious data.
>"RACE" is the glue that will keep us together.
For OP.
It's just a statistical indicator of that person won't do bad shit or their children's children.
Culture and Spirit can be taught, molded, shaped, and chipped. Genetics (DNA, RNA, bacteria) and if you believe in spooky /x/ stuff that too plays a role.
Humans are tribally inclined to survive other species amd breeds of humans.
We have hardware that works still. The software has malicious data.
>>215599
radicalism isn't a disease, think of it more as a society's immune system kicking in. radicalism never gains traction unless there is an underlying problem. the longer the problem is ignored the more intense the radicalism becomes. our problem is multiculturalism and the cancer that arose in the 1960s. anybody who called out that absolute madness was shamed and silenced like Enoch Powell.
the race issue is fundamentally at the heart of the issue because it is one of the components that comprises the Westphalian nation state. in order to have a nation state you need several things, a common ethnicity, culture, and language. a society can metabolize and incorporate immigrants through assimilation but the further they differ from the historic identity and culture the harder it isn't to metabolize them. when you completely change the racial identity of a nation within two generations it completely overwhelms a society's ability to assimilate these people into the whole.
in the West there is another caveat that makes an already difficult process nearly impossible. the Jewish created racial caste system. everybody has an assigned position at birth. every non white is victim group and then American. the Jews have imported non whites and radicalized them against the dominate ethnic group of the nation. they have whites and non whites fighting each other while they totally control every lever of power in society. they've trained non whites to be absolute identitarians, this was never a problem until European Americans started developing identity as they dwindled in number, now all of the kvetching against radicalism.
there is no going back from this. the solution is anathema to the Jew. the US would need to completely stop all non white immigration, abolish the racial caste system and the whole victim/oppressor communist dynamic and restore equal justice and equal opportunity. if a merit based society and justice hurts non whites then that's their problem and they should sort it out themselves. I know none of this will ever happen and so we'll just keep heaping up our funeral pyre until something finally sets it off.
thankfully our Jewish master will fuck off back to Israel. like any true parasite they will leave the host before it dies.
radicalism isn't a disease, think of it more as a society's immune system kicking in. radicalism never gains traction unless there is an underlying problem. the longer the problem is ignored the more intense the radicalism becomes. our problem is multiculturalism and the cancer that arose in the 1960s. anybody who called out that absolute madness was shamed and silenced like Enoch Powell.
the race issue is fundamentally at the heart of the issue because it is one of the components that comprises the Westphalian nation state. in order to have a nation state you need several things, a common ethnicity, culture, and language. a society can metabolize and incorporate immigrants through assimilation but the further they differ from the historic identity and culture the harder it isn't to metabolize them. when you completely change the racial identity of a nation within two generations it completely overwhelms a society's ability to assimilate these people into the whole.
in the West there is another caveat that makes an already difficult process nearly impossible. the Jewish created racial caste system. everybody has an assigned position at birth. every non white is victim group and then American. the Jews have imported non whites and radicalized them against the dominate ethnic group of the nation. they have whites and non whites fighting each other while they totally control every lever of power in society. they've trained non whites to be absolute identitarians, this was never a problem until European Americans started developing identity as they dwindled in number, now all of the kvetching against radicalism.
there is no going back from this. the solution is anathema to the Jew. the US would need to completely stop all non white immigration, abolish the racial caste system and the whole victim/oppressor communist dynamic and restore equal justice and equal opportunity. if a merit based society and justice hurts non whites then that's their problem and they should sort it out themselves. I know none of this will ever happen and so we'll just keep heaping up our funeral pyre until something finally sets it off.
thankfully our Jewish master will fuck off back to Israel. like any true parasite they will leave the host before it dies.
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>>215599
This is similar to the argument that "Race doesn't exist because Africans have more genetic difference among each other than between other races!" It is a misunderstanding of the nature of race. Race is an easy identifier for characteristics, not of the actual haplotypes and whatnot. Of course you're arguing about culture rather than genetics, but it's much the same. Africans of wildly different tribes may have completely different genetics and cultures, but they will still be Africans and have a similar range of IQ, time preference, etc. Same for Europeans, East Asians, etc.
>magic of usury
Just to digress a bit there's nothing "magical" about interest and the ban on interest was an idiotic part of the system that allowed Jews to infiltrate in the first place.
>>215633
>>215636
>>215641
This, this, this. Race isn't everything but it's extremely important, just as a house is built on a foundation. You can teach a racial minority to swear allegiance to a common cause and maybe even change their culture, but they'll still have their physical attributes and over time will adopt a group consciousness. Saying we're "white nationalists" may be a bit disingenuous since there's so much more we're concerned about and that's just part of it, but none of it matters without having a homeland for our people.
This is similar to the argument that "Race doesn't exist because Africans have more genetic difference among each other than between other races!" It is a misunderstanding of the nature of race. Race is an easy identifier for characteristics, not of the actual haplotypes and whatnot. Of course you're arguing about culture rather than genetics, but it's much the same. Africans of wildly different tribes may have completely different genetics and cultures, but they will still be Africans and have a similar range of IQ, time preference, etc. Same for Europeans, East Asians, etc.
>magic of usury
Just to digress a bit there's nothing "magical" about interest and the ban on interest was an idiotic part of the system that allowed Jews to infiltrate in the first place.
>>215633
>>215636
>>215641
This, this, this. Race isn't everything but it's extremely important, just as a house is built on a foundation. You can teach a racial minority to swear allegiance to a common cause and maybe even change their culture, but they'll still have their physical attributes and over time will adopt a group consciousness. Saying we're "white nationalists" may be a bit disingenuous since there's so much more we're concerned about and that's just part of it, but none of it matters without having a homeland for our people.
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>>215676
>but none of it matters without having a homeland for our people.
This is the key reason why RAHOWA is unavoidable.
>but none of it matters without having a homeland for our people.
This is the key reason why RAHOWA is unavoidable.
I think people here are misunderstanding my critique to be pro civic nationalism. I'm not pro civic nationalism but I know ethno nationalism when expanded to blanket racialism is also very bad and very wrong. Thus I do not deny race and even if I have qualms with ethno nationalism I do not think it as a dangerous idea (being a British nationalist is fine, being a white nationalist is however, dangerous.) Why is this the case you may be asking? Well I tried to explain it but since no one seemed to get it I guess I was being blatant enough. Slavs will be lumped in with Western Europeans and will be the end of Western Europe, not non-white groups but by Slavic peoples (well besides the Americas, we'll be fucked by Mexicans but I'll make an effort post about this issue later on.)
Now to avoid sounding like a Slav hater (since I really do like Slavs) let me just say that I think Slavs in their homeland are more admirable then westerns. That is if I could raise my children anywhere on earth it'd be in Poland. Living their to work maybe not though. Still when Slavs move to the west they implement policies akin to a third world nation. Why? Because they are still very primitive and are non-western in outlook. Over time this changes but not by much compared to even other racial groups. Thus to lump Slavs in with westerns is bad at best and damning at worse. Because its a group that comes up as white on census' but its a group that wants the west dead as much as Islam. My call to action would be to stop being white nationalists and I'd wish everyone would just call themselves western traditionalists or "ethnic group here" nationalists; however, like I said is it right I save a suicidal man even if I love him? He is killing himself through liberalism or through ideas that are similarly universal such as "white nationalism." At this point I see such movements to be as bad as liberalism since its heart seems to be in the wrong place and its end policy results similarly harmful.
Lastly there is an idea here that I think is wrong and want to take a shot at. The idea of primacy of blood. I think this idea is wrong because its incomplete. Blood is shaped by land and land shapes a people's culture as much as blood. This is an idea I think Slavs have right (think mother Russia as apposed to the father land.)
Now to avoid sounding like a Slav hater (since I really do like Slavs) let me just say that I think Slavs in their homeland are more admirable then westerns. That is if I could raise my children anywhere on earth it'd be in Poland. Living their to work maybe not though. Still when Slavs move to the west they implement policies akin to a third world nation. Why? Because they are still very primitive and are non-western in outlook. Over time this changes but not by much compared to even other racial groups. Thus to lump Slavs in with westerns is bad at best and damning at worse. Because its a group that comes up as white on census' but its a group that wants the west dead as much as Islam. My call to action would be to stop being white nationalists and I'd wish everyone would just call themselves western traditionalists or "ethnic group here" nationalists; however, like I said is it right I save a suicidal man even if I love him? He is killing himself through liberalism or through ideas that are similarly universal such as "white nationalism." At this point I see such movements to be as bad as liberalism since its heart seems to be in the wrong place and its end policy results similarly harmful.
Lastly there is an idea here that I think is wrong and want to take a shot at. The idea of primacy of blood. I think this idea is wrong because its incomplete. Blood is shaped by land and land shapes a people's culture as much as blood. This is an idea I think Slavs have right (think mother Russia as apposed to the father land.)
>>215683
>but I know ethno nationalism when expanded to blanket racialism is also very bad and very wrong.
Elaborate.
>but I know ethno nationalism when expanded to blanket racialism is also very bad and very wrong.
Elaborate.
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>>215599
Perhaps this video can give a inner view of what is going on.
>What it means to 'leave' nationalism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN3TsXKXpco
Perhaps this video can give a inner view of what is going on.
>What it means to 'leave' nationalism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN3TsXKXpco
The root of the problem is "white nationalism" or "white only immigration" needs to die already. because neither have a direct meaning or sustainability. Both were useful things in the past but now we can only desrcibe the current goal as "white seperatism". Whether or not you think culture is important, you still need the concept of the phenotype to preserve the identity of the culture.
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>>215694
>The root of the problem is "white nationalism" or "white only immigration" needs to die already. because neither have a direct meaning or sustainability.
This sounds like coming straight from a kike's mouth.
Let me flip your statement.
"The root of the problem is "non-White invasion" or "non-White only immigration" needs to die already. because both have a genocidal meaning and conducts to racial war."
The saying: "Diversity + Proximity = War" takes his real dimension when you look closer.
It is time you and others alike take responsibility for the actions you support, White Genocide will end up with millions of pilled bodies at both sides, and I am afraid it is too late to contain or stop its natural development.
>The root of the problem is "white nationalism" or "white only immigration" needs to die already. because neither have a direct meaning or sustainability.
This sounds like coming straight from a kike's mouth.
Let me flip your statement.
"The root of the problem is "non-White invasion" or "non-White only immigration" needs to die already. because both have a genocidal meaning and conducts to racial war."
The saying: "Diversity + Proximity = War" takes his real dimension when you look closer.
It is time you and others alike take responsibility for the actions you support, White Genocide will end up with millions of pilled bodies at both sides, and I am afraid it is too late to contain or stop its natural development.
>>215633
>but identifies with their own ethnic subgroup nonetheless
That's what I'm gravitating towards these days. If you are anti-white, you aren't white. Otherwise, welcome to the fray. It's surprising how clear this filter ends up being, and it allows for some allies without getting excessively wound up in finding enemies.
**Not a civ-nat, just think there's value in having allies.**
>but identifies with their own ethnic subgroup nonetheless
That's what I'm gravitating towards these days. If you are anti-white, you aren't white. Otherwise, welcome to the fray. It's surprising how clear this filter ends up being, and it allows for some allies without getting excessively wound up in finding enemies.
**Not a civ-nat, just think there's value in having allies.**
>>215686
Haven't seen that video yet, but I just saw this one and it's pretty good. Gives all the specifics of IQ and explains how environment (including culture, etc.) is influenced by genetics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVzFOI0QpIg
Haven't seen that video yet, but I just saw this one and it's pretty good. Gives all the specifics of IQ and explains how environment (including culture, etc.) is influenced by genetics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVzFOI0QpIg
>>215696
You green text the first part of my post and ignore the rest. Good job asshole. Im talking about concepts here, being a "white nationalist" is really just reactionary politics. Thats why I no longer identify as "white nationalist" and instead as "white seperatist".
You green text the first part of my post and ignore the rest. Good job asshole. Im talking about concepts here, being a "white nationalist" is really just reactionary politics. Thats why I no longer identify as "white nationalist" and instead as "white seperatist".
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I'm not a white nationalist by any means nor am I against assimilation but not the meme assimilation the Jewish civic nationalists or liberals want to sell. the assimilation they want you to buy is cultural but honestly if you see a non white the first thing you think isn't that they are American, the 1st thing you think of is their identity group. they also think along these lines. I am a black American, Indian American, Latino American, Asian American. the only group that doesn't do this is white Americans because they are the group that founded, settled and conquered this country. the identity of this country is European and Christian because those are the people that created it.
you may not think that's important but if you don't share the identity of those in your history you will never feel apart of that history and you will reject it. you already see that happening by the destruction of monuments and the erasure of history. why do you think there is a Jesus of virtually every racial phenotype on earth? it's so that the people of that region can relate to him. you can do this with religion because it's spiritual and doesn't require the specificity of history.
the US can only exist if it remains white. a lot of people aren't comfortable with a white non muslim immigration only but you have to realize that we've taken so many people that are difficult to assimilate into the whole that our society needs time to heal and resolidify our national identity. this is possible naturally through following the stages of assimilation but it will generations but it can be sped up by only allowing white immigration. I've seen this happen where I live. I live in a more rural region of American and it's mostly white. some hispanics are there and many intermarry with whites. within a few generations they will become indistinguishable from any other American.
take note of the second pic. I went to HS with the girl on the left. she's half Mexican. she married a white guy. her children will be ethnically no different than any other American. they will have an Anglo surname, they will be fully assimilated into the American identity. this process is natural and will work but only if we stop the tide of people who are difficult to assimilate racially as well as culturally.
I'm not a white nationalist nor am I am ebil raciss but I am cognizant of how societies are formed and how nations exist. white nationalists hate this because of race mixing and Jews and non whites hate this because Jews will lose their golem, non whites will lose their special status the Jew created for them.
I love America and the principles it was founded on. I want to live in a free republic however if we deny reality, the other path is balkanization or worse mass genocide on a scale we've never seen before.
>as I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood'.
you may not think that's important but if you don't share the identity of those in your history you will never feel apart of that history and you will reject it. you already see that happening by the destruction of monuments and the erasure of history. why do you think there is a Jesus of virtually every racial phenotype on earth? it's so that the people of that region can relate to him. you can do this with religion because it's spiritual and doesn't require the specificity of history.
the US can only exist if it remains white. a lot of people aren't comfortable with a white non muslim immigration only but you have to realize that we've taken so many people that are difficult to assimilate into the whole that our society needs time to heal and resolidify our national identity. this is possible naturally through following the stages of assimilation but it will generations but it can be sped up by only allowing white immigration. I've seen this happen where I live. I live in a more rural region of American and it's mostly white. some hispanics are there and many intermarry with whites. within a few generations they will become indistinguishable from any other American.
take note of the second pic. I went to HS with the girl on the left. she's half Mexican. she married a white guy. her children will be ethnically no different than any other American. they will have an Anglo surname, they will be fully assimilated into the American identity. this process is natural and will work but only if we stop the tide of people who are difficult to assimilate racially as well as culturally.
I'm not a white nationalist nor am I am ebil raciss but I am cognizant of how societies are formed and how nations exist. white nationalists hate this because of race mixing and Jews and non whites hate this because Jews will lose their golem, non whites will lose their special status the Jew created for them.
I love America and the principles it was founded on. I want to live in a free republic however if we deny reality, the other path is balkanization or worse mass genocide on a scale we've never seen before.
>as I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood'.
>>215685
Whiteness is fake. Western European and Slavic identity is real in terms of race but are two separate groups. Fighting for something that is fake is dying for a false god. You will not obtain salvation but will be damned for your actions. Furthermore you are actively harming those who seek western European sub set identities from obtaining their nationalism by using a dead label. This point on optics however is much less important to the former.
Lastly its wrong to act upon such inclinations of universalist racialism. It ends only in Slavs colonizing the west under our noses like how the Christians colonized the Romans without them knowing. So if you really do care for your race drop the idea of whiteness its a bad label to begin with, its fake on top of that, and to ice the cake its intent will lead to the death of Western Europe.
>>215686
I have not left nationalism I just see racialism as a shallow explanation of something much more rich. So I find ethno nationalism although better then many alternatives is still a very much flawed idea of societal organization. Here is the thing, there is no perfect way to organize society. To want to organize it at all is to fall to liberalism and a degeneracy in thought. That doesn't mean anarchy rather it means natural hierarchy.
>>215732
Then I am saddened to see my comments are falling on def ears. I warn that "white" immigration only when inclusive of Slavs will lead to the west breaking from within rather then without. its the problem with the identity group of white rather then western European which is a non-toxic and more accurate group to identify with.
Whiteness is fake. Western European and Slavic identity is real in terms of race but are two separate groups. Fighting for something that is fake is dying for a false god. You will not obtain salvation but will be damned for your actions. Furthermore you are actively harming those who seek western European sub set identities from obtaining their nationalism by using a dead label. This point on optics however is much less important to the former.
Lastly its wrong to act upon such inclinations of universalist racialism. It ends only in Slavs colonizing the west under our noses like how the Christians colonized the Romans without them knowing. So if you really do care for your race drop the idea of whiteness its a bad label to begin with, its fake on top of that, and to ice the cake its intent will lead to the death of Western Europe.
>>215686
I have not left nationalism I just see racialism as a shallow explanation of something much more rich. So I find ethno nationalism although better then many alternatives is still a very much flawed idea of societal organization. Here is the thing, there is no perfect way to organize society. To want to organize it at all is to fall to liberalism and a degeneracy in thought. That doesn't mean anarchy rather it means natural hierarchy.
>>215732
Then I am saddened to see my comments are falling on def ears. I warn that "white" immigration only when inclusive of Slavs will lead to the west breaking from within rather then without. its the problem with the identity group of white rather then western European which is a non-toxic and more accurate group to identify with.
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>>215741
>Then I am saddened to see my comments are falling on def ears. I warn that "white" immigration only when inclusive of Slavs will lead to the west breaking from within rather then without. its the problem with the identity group of white rather then western European which is a non-toxic and more accurate group to identify with.
So don't let bad people into a new society. In this manner the problem is nipped before it can start.
>Then I am saddened to see my comments are falling on def ears. I warn that "white" immigration only when inclusive of Slavs will lead to the west breaking from within rather then without. its the problem with the identity group of white rather then western European which is a non-toxic and more accurate group to identify with.
So don't let bad people into a new society. In this manner the problem is nipped before it can start.
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The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. They are just a useful strategic asset, with the potential to be a friend.
Using jew defined terms tends to play into their hands most of the time. The world is insane and has been from the start.
Why not call it not nationalism or radicalism, but lunic unified celestial kommand equestrianism.
Using jew defined terms tends to play into their hands most of the time. The world is insane and has been from the start.
Why not call it not nationalism or radicalism, but lunic unified celestial kommand equestrianism.
>>215741
I don't see that. a Pole can immigrate to the US and by the second generation his children are completely assimilated. virtually all slavs are totally assimilated by the second generation.
we really don't have the luxury to worry about old European chauvinism. in Europe they do but not in the US.
we are on the precipice of collapse. in a few years times all of Western Civilization will suffer a great trial and it isn't going to be pretty. I'm not a radical nor do I wish to see my homeland bathed in blood but that's the path we're going on.
I don't see that. a Pole can immigrate to the US and by the second generation his children are completely assimilated. virtually all slavs are totally assimilated by the second generation.
we really don't have the luxury to worry about old European chauvinism. in Europe they do but not in the US.
we are on the precipice of collapse. in a few years times all of Western Civilization will suffer a great trial and it isn't going to be pretty. I'm not a radical nor do I wish to see my homeland bathed in blood but that's the path we're going on.
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>>215741
I can agree with you in principle though not in practice. Ethno-nationalism means celebrating your ethnicity, not just your race. After all, relationship exists in concentric circles: first your family, then your neighbors (if you live in a homogeneous neighborhood), then your region of similar ancestry, then your nation, your race, and finally humanity. Obviously nation comes before race, region before nation, etc. I place my family above my neighbors, my neighbors above my county, my county above my state, my state above the South, the South above America, America above the West. This doesn't mean I won't fight for Dixie or not encourage broad nationalism in America.
The reason why we are white-nationalists and try to include Slavs on our side is because the effort to subvert the West is so broad and organized that dozens of separate nationalisms will be helpless flares in response. By aiding each other we form a combined front and a large blaze. Slavs, although they are not in the same sort of danger nonetheless face the same threat: (((elites))) try to subvert their homelands, try to isolate them militarily and eliminate their sovereignty. Therefore they are natural allies and their strength of resolve is a rallying point for the rest of us and an example of national pride.
We can worry about cultural incompatibilities among European peoples when we don't have to worry about being replaced entirely by non-Europeans.
I can agree with you in principle though not in practice. Ethno-nationalism means celebrating your ethnicity, not just your race. After all, relationship exists in concentric circles: first your family, then your neighbors (if you live in a homogeneous neighborhood), then your region of similar ancestry, then your nation, your race, and finally humanity. Obviously nation comes before race, region before nation, etc. I place my family above my neighbors, my neighbors above my county, my county above my state, my state above the South, the South above America, America above the West. This doesn't mean I won't fight for Dixie or not encourage broad nationalism in America.
The reason why we are white-nationalists and try to include Slavs on our side is because the effort to subvert the West is so broad and organized that dozens of separate nationalisms will be helpless flares in response. By aiding each other we form a combined front and a large blaze. Slavs, although they are not in the same sort of danger nonetheless face the same threat: (((elites))) try to subvert their homelands, try to isolate them militarily and eliminate their sovereignty. Therefore they are natural allies and their strength of resolve is a rallying point for the rest of us and an example of national pride.
We can worry about cultural incompatibilities among European peoples when we don't have to worry about being replaced entirely by non-Europeans.
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>>215728
>You green text the first part of my post and ignore the rest
Because the rest is all about to put a wedge on European Identity, you are trying really hard to sow the seeds of division among Whites, which this time will not happen.
All Whites are in the same boat this time, our awakening is happening at global scale and it is unstoppable.
The consequences can be terrifying for globalists and their liberal golems and as you well said at a further post, it is "reactionary". A planetary White Movement can produce a reformation of our civilization in a radical and unpredictable manner; as Murros said, "It will open the gates of hell" for those guilty of wish us harm.
>You green text the first part of my post and ignore the rest
Because the rest is all about to put a wedge on European Identity, you are trying really hard to sow the seeds of division among Whites, which this time will not happen.
All Whites are in the same boat this time, our awakening is happening at global scale and it is unstoppable.
The consequences can be terrifying for globalists and their liberal golems and as you well said at a further post, it is "reactionary". A planetary White Movement can produce a reformation of our civilization in a radical and unpredictable manner; as Murros said, "It will open the gates of hell" for those guilty of wish us harm.
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>>215761
>We can worry about cultural incompatibilities among European peoples when we don't have to worry about being replaced entirely by non-Europeans.
well put, the Jew wants this division among us. some of them are actually admitting it now. they're trying to sell out leftist Jews to save themselves but it's all Jews.
>What is Congressmuslim Ilhan Omar if not a golem? For decades, leftist Jews have been the biggest boosters of flooding the West with Third World immigrants. “Hey, here’s a plan—let’s dump a hundred thousand Somalis in the whitest parts of the U.S. That’ll save us from Fargo Hitler!” Inundating the West with nonwhite immigrants is seen by Jews as an insurance policy against “white supremacy.” The idea is that these immigrants will act as a wedge, diluting “white power” while remaining small enough in numbers to be manageable.
https://www.takimag.com/article/stop-with-the-golems-already/
>We can worry about cultural incompatibilities among European peoples when we don't have to worry about being replaced entirely by non-Europeans.
well put, the Jew wants this division among us. some of them are actually admitting it now. they're trying to sell out leftist Jews to save themselves but it's all Jews.
>What is Congressmuslim Ilhan Omar if not a golem? For decades, leftist Jews have been the biggest boosters of flooding the West with Third World immigrants. “Hey, here’s a plan—let’s dump a hundred thousand Somalis in the whitest parts of the U.S. That’ll save us from Fargo Hitler!” Inundating the West with nonwhite immigrants is seen by Jews as an insurance policy against “white supremacy.” The idea is that these immigrants will act as a wedge, diluting “white power” while remaining small enough in numbers to be manageable.
https://www.takimag.com/article/stop-with-the-golems-already/
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>>215761
This is a lot of little points I disagree with and I could list them out and write against each on but that'd be a lot of time on me and wouldn't counter the synthesis of your points. So let me explain this much. Slavs and westerns are not allies and cannot be allies ever again. Slavs hate us and with good reason. Their voting patterns match this deep seated hatred against western values. In their home states this is a reactionary push to end western degeneracy which I find admirable and wish them luck on. In western states this amounts to the worse kind of behaviors in terms of policy preferences. Slavs vote overwhelming for immigration. Why? Because they hate the west and want to see our people die because of how unnatural the typical western liberal has become. To an extent I would agree with the Slav, if I could kill a traitor who was a westerner I would, but you know how this ends. We also die in the process. So Slavs can never be our ally.
They are not subverted by Jews, communists, or other elites. As one living in the Slavic world (yes Romania is in the Slavic world even if it is not genetically Slavic, and Croatia is the only western Slavic people) a state gets the Jews that it deserves. The Slavic world has no need to ally with us against elites because the elites incapable of corrupting the people.
There is a book called Clash of Civilizations by Samuel Huntington. His thesis was that conflict will arise from different Civilizations. This is your mentality. The error in your mentality is that Civilizations never clash, because we are incapable of understanding each other. One's conflict is another's peace. You view the Slav as an extension of yourself. You are wrong, and humanity is only something a western can owe allegiance towards. I think its something our culture has dead wrong and this ideals rationalization has lead to cultural suicide.
>>215759
>I don't see that. a Pole can immigrate to the US and by the second generation his children are completely assimilated
Pic related Eastern European voting patterns within the US. Hint, they don't vote like most other Western Europeans. Their culture despises us and I don't blame them for that. But its still something dangerous. Our path will not be one towards blood but will be one towards continued Chaos till our cultural soul dies. When this happens we will have nothing left besides Empire, at which point if we do not fix the idea of what our race is and relies only on racialism then the west will become entirely Slavic. Its a warning I give but one in which those even here who are cultural suicidal care not for. This is the reason why at this point I think I'm just about done trying to save the west entirely. All around me no one cares to defend it. Instead the right defends racialism. Thats what I'm not sure if I should even bother defending the west, why try to save a suicidal man if he keeps trying.
Link of pic: https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2018/08/10/the-myth-of-european-assimilation/
Good read would rec for anyone who wants to understand the idea that all whites assimilate is a meme.
This is a lot of little points I disagree with and I could list them out and write against each on but that'd be a lot of time on me and wouldn't counter the synthesis of your points. So let me explain this much. Slavs and westerns are not allies and cannot be allies ever again. Slavs hate us and with good reason. Their voting patterns match this deep seated hatred against western values. In their home states this is a reactionary push to end western degeneracy which I find admirable and wish them luck on. In western states this amounts to the worse kind of behaviors in terms of policy preferences. Slavs vote overwhelming for immigration. Why? Because they hate the west and want to see our people die because of how unnatural the typical western liberal has become. To an extent I would agree with the Slav, if I could kill a traitor who was a westerner I would, but you know how this ends. We also die in the process. So Slavs can never be our ally.
They are not subverted by Jews, communists, or other elites. As one living in the Slavic world (yes Romania is in the Slavic world even if it is not genetically Slavic, and Croatia is the only western Slavic people) a state gets the Jews that it deserves. The Slavic world has no need to ally with us against elites because the elites incapable of corrupting the people.
There is a book called Clash of Civilizations by Samuel Huntington. His thesis was that conflict will arise from different Civilizations. This is your mentality. The error in your mentality is that Civilizations never clash, because we are incapable of understanding each other. One's conflict is another's peace. You view the Slav as an extension of yourself. You are wrong, and humanity is only something a western can owe allegiance towards. I think its something our culture has dead wrong and this ideals rationalization has lead to cultural suicide.
>>215759
>I don't see that. a Pole can immigrate to the US and by the second generation his children are completely assimilated
Pic related Eastern European voting patterns within the US. Hint, they don't vote like most other Western Europeans. Their culture despises us and I don't blame them for that. But its still something dangerous. Our path will not be one towards blood but will be one towards continued Chaos till our cultural soul dies. When this happens we will have nothing left besides Empire, at which point if we do not fix the idea of what our race is and relies only on racialism then the west will become entirely Slavic. Its a warning I give but one in which those even here who are cultural suicidal care not for. This is the reason why at this point I think I'm just about done trying to save the west entirely. All around me no one cares to defend it. Instead the right defends racialism. Thats what I'm not sure if I should even bother defending the west, why try to save a suicidal man if he keeps trying.
Link of pic: https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2018/08/10/the-myth-of-european-assimilation/
Good read would rec for anyone who wants to understand the idea that all whites assimilate is a meme.
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>>215762
We are in the same boat, doesnt mean we're in the same living spaces. Im for whites defending their race and WPWW so theres nothing we disagree on. I just see a different struggle to face at the same time.
We are in the same boat, doesnt mean we're in the same living spaces. Im for whites defending their race and WPWW so theres nothing we disagree on. I just see a different struggle to face at the same time.
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>>215774
>Pic related Eastern European voting patterns within the US.
From the link.
>[This chart is based on an analysis I did of GSS data that was collected between 1972 and 2014. I also looked at how different groups reported voting in US elections between 1968 and 2012, finding that Irish, Italian, and Scandinavian Americans continued to be, at best, unreliable Republicans right up to the 2012 election when they all reported having voted for Obama over Romney.] End Quote
The problem is sampling, bias, polling problems, and Location area. We know jackshit about where the polling was taken from. Who answers polling questions. Was this in a city or the country side or both? The slums or suburban areas? What is their economic status? What is their living condition? The age of the voters? Religious learning?
>[ NOVEMBER 20, 2017 / IDEASANDDATA123
I used data from the General Social Survey to analyze the party affiliation and voting habits of immigrants by ethnicity and generation. Importantly, this data indicates that White and non-White immigrants tend to favor the Democrat party more than the general US population does, though Whites do so to a less extreme degree.
]End Quote. From https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2017/11/20/non-hispanic-white-immigrants-vote-and-identify-as-democrats/
>[I also tried looking at why European ethnicities differed in party ID. The only trend of value I found was that people from more protestant nations were more Republican. This trend explained about a third of the variation across ethnicities in party ID:](shows a picture after the ID:) end quote
>[I went on to analyze voting trends for the 12 US presidential elections that occurred between 1968 and 2012. Due to limitations of sample size, I only looked at people from England, Scottland, France, Ireland, Italy, Poland, and Scandinavia (Denmark, Noway, and Sweden, combined).] End Quote
From https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2018/08/06/deconstructing-the-white-vote-2/
What the Data could imply is that immigrants and what generation the voter is in factors how much to one party they lean to.
It could also imply that stronger religious ties cause group feedback in deciding on the party.
It could also imply that the politics at the time were different. ('70s '80s '90s 2000s until 2012)
>The Slavic world has no need to ally with us against elites because the elites incapable of corrupting the people.
Cough WWII Cough. Cough Cold War Cough.
>All around me no one cares to defend it. Instead the right defends racialism.
Like /pol/ rightwing, (((alt-right))), political puppet right, or something else?
Everyone who would speakout about this is covered up and brow beaten to shut up by (((them))). NPCs are brainwashed and habitually conditioned to behave in a very specific way.
The (((they))) don't help matters when multiple 'foes' are lined up to take the fall instead of (((them))).
On /pol/ it's a means to an end. (((Their))) end.
Honestly the few plans after the conflict are crude and rudimentary, because planning to create a perfect society is very difficult to implement.
Personally, I think /pol/acks are more concerned that there will be no support, no allies, no manpower, no resources, no plan, no stratagem, no final solution. They are concerned that if outing globalism, elitism, Zionism, whatever, fails there won't be plans to make a better society. Despite history showing time and time again of repealing parasites that they could fail a high degree of failure too. (((They))) have access to practically all the WMDs and large stockpiles of other kinds of explosives/means. If (((they))) know that their end is inevitable, if (((they))) can't have the world no one can.
So /pol/ takes it one step at a time. One meme after another.
After everything everyone will be needing some healling.
>Pic related Eastern European voting patterns within the US.
From the link.
>[This chart is based on an analysis I did of GSS data that was collected between 1972 and 2014. I also looked at how different groups reported voting in US elections between 1968 and 2012, finding that Irish, Italian, and Scandinavian Americans continued to be, at best, unreliable Republicans right up to the 2012 election when they all reported having voted for Obama over Romney.] End Quote
The problem is sampling, bias, polling problems, and Location area. We know jackshit about where the polling was taken from. Who answers polling questions. Was this in a city or the country side or both? The slums or suburban areas? What is their economic status? What is their living condition? The age of the voters? Religious learning?
>[ NOVEMBER 20, 2017 / IDEASANDDATA123
I used data from the General Social Survey to analyze the party affiliation and voting habits of immigrants by ethnicity and generation. Importantly, this data indicates that White and non-White immigrants tend to favor the Democrat party more than the general US population does, though Whites do so to a less extreme degree.
]End Quote. From https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2017/11/20/non-hispanic-white-immigrants-vote-and-identify-as-democrats/
>[I also tried looking at why European ethnicities differed in party ID. The only trend of value I found was that people from more protestant nations were more Republican. This trend explained about a third of the variation across ethnicities in party ID:](shows a picture after the ID:) end quote
>[I went on to analyze voting trends for the 12 US presidential elections that occurred between 1968 and 2012. Due to limitations of sample size, I only looked at people from England, Scottland, France, Ireland, Italy, Poland, and Scandinavia (Denmark, Noway, and Sweden, combined).] End Quote
From https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2018/08/06/deconstructing-the-white-vote-2/
What the Data could imply is that immigrants and what generation the voter is in factors how much to one party they lean to.
It could also imply that stronger religious ties cause group feedback in deciding on the party.
It could also imply that the politics at the time were different. ('70s '80s '90s 2000s until 2012)
>The Slavic world has no need to ally with us against elites because the elites incapable of corrupting the people.
Cough WWII Cough. Cough Cold War Cough.
>All around me no one cares to defend it. Instead the right defends racialism.
Like /pol/ rightwing, (((alt-right))), political puppet right, or something else?
Everyone who would speakout about this is covered up and brow beaten to shut up by (((them))). NPCs are brainwashed and habitually conditioned to behave in a very specific way.
The (((they))) don't help matters when multiple 'foes' are lined up to take the fall instead of (((them))).
On /pol/ it's a means to an end. (((Their))) end.
Honestly the few plans after the conflict are crude and rudimentary, because planning to create a perfect society is very difficult to implement.
Personally, I think /pol/acks are more concerned that there will be no support, no allies, no manpower, no resources, no plan, no stratagem, no final solution. They are concerned that if outing globalism, elitism, Zionism, whatever, fails there won't be plans to make a better society. Despite history showing time and time again of repealing parasites that they could fail a high degree of failure too. (((They))) have access to practically all the WMDs and large stockpiles of other kinds of explosives/means. If (((they))) know that their end is inevitable, if (((they))) can't have the world no one can.
So /pol/ takes it one step at a time. One meme after another.
After everything everyone will be needing some healling.
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>>215774
Gonna have to agree with >>215794 here. A good statistic has a large sample size and is quite clear: for example, "13% of the population commits 50% of the murders." We know this is a sample size of the entire United States and deals with the black community as a whole. Your pic has sample sizes of a few thousand at most, less than a hundred in some, and gives no context about place, etc. Once again I refer to this video which I found fascinating. Considering how you've linked AltHype maybe you've already seen it.
>>215718
>Slavs hate us
I don't think they hate us so much as they hate our leaders and the useful idiots. You can talk to Chinese natives, Russians, even Iranians, and if you're an American they probably won't consider you an enemy. Of course some do and it's excusable given what our (((leaders))) have done to those lands, but the stereotypical political allegiance is not commonly followed. The Chinese in particular love Westerners, but they have a term of ridicule Baizuo, which means literally white left but is functionally libtard. Foreigners in countries not cucked by liberal values are usually used to living under corrupt leaders, and they often feel pity that we have self-destructive leadership and there's nothing we can do.
I'd say you're partly right on racialism but it remains the fact that uniting like-minded people on a cause other than white identity is extremely difficult. A society requires a cultural and a political-economic basis and it requires faith in these things to work. It is my sincere belief that a Western land requires a Christian traditionalist cultural backing and a libertarian capitalist political-economic system; that is to say, I oppose systems like "national Bolshevism" which is "white" but would invariably create more corruption and destruction. However, these pillars which to me are indispensable are questioned and even completely rejected by parts of the non-cucked right. Do I disavow them or debate them while our lands are being ethnically replaced? No, I find a point of common interest and latch on, and that is European–that is, white–survival. Without that there's no rebuilding, period.
Of course Hitler's idea of the Weltanschauung and pushing a complete ideology without the need for alliances has a lot of merit, too. That is something I'd like to replicate. But, of course, it must include racialism in order to attract those afraid for their future.
Gonna have to agree with >>215794 here. A good statistic has a large sample size and is quite clear: for example, "13% of the population commits 50% of the murders." We know this is a sample size of the entire United States and deals with the black community as a whole. Your pic has sample sizes of a few thousand at most, less than a hundred in some, and gives no context about place, etc. Once again I refer to this video which I found fascinating. Considering how you've linked AltHype maybe you've already seen it.
>>215718
>Slavs hate us
I don't think they hate us so much as they hate our leaders and the useful idiots. You can talk to Chinese natives, Russians, even Iranians, and if you're an American they probably won't consider you an enemy. Of course some do and it's excusable given what our (((leaders))) have done to those lands, but the stereotypical political allegiance is not commonly followed. The Chinese in particular love Westerners, but they have a term of ridicule Baizuo, which means literally white left but is functionally libtard. Foreigners in countries not cucked by liberal values are usually used to living under corrupt leaders, and they often feel pity that we have self-destructive leadership and there's nothing we can do.
I'd say you're partly right on racialism but it remains the fact that uniting like-minded people on a cause other than white identity is extremely difficult. A society requires a cultural and a political-economic basis and it requires faith in these things to work. It is my sincere belief that a Western land requires a Christian traditionalist cultural backing and a libertarian capitalist political-economic system; that is to say, I oppose systems like "national Bolshevism" which is "white" but would invariably create more corruption and destruction. However, these pillars which to me are indispensable are questioned and even completely rejected by parts of the non-cucked right. Do I disavow them or debate them while our lands are being ethnically replaced? No, I find a point of common interest and latch on, and that is European–that is, white–survival. Without that there's no rebuilding, period.
Of course Hitler's idea of the Weltanschauung and pushing a complete ideology without the need for alliances has a lot of merit, too. That is something I'd like to replicate. But, of course, it must include racialism in order to attract those afraid for their future.
>>215774
I can see your reasoning and it's is a legitimate concern. however if a SCOTUS case goes Trump's way, it isn't going to matter in the short term.
Trump wants to put a citizenship question on the 2020 census. the democrats have been fighting in the courts but SCOTUS is surprisingly taken it up bypassing the normal procedures. assuming the citizenship question is allowed it will completely gut the democratic party for a decade.
the illegal and foreign population is largely in a few states. California, Texas, New York, New Jersey, Illinois and Florida. each of the 435 representatives in the house, each one roughly represents 700k. prb is saying that 45 million people could potentially under counted. that could potentially be 65 house seats lost to the democrats. because those seats would go to states with more native born. Louisiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, Mississippi, Iowa and a few others.
https://www.prb.org/citizenship-question-risks-a-2020-census-undercount-in-every-state-especially-among-children/
there is another SCOTUS case this summer that's going to magnify this shift even more. there is a case against gerrymandering. let's assume gerrymandering is rule against. if it is that means the new districts will have to be drawn from the 2020 census data which will heavily favor rural areas over urban, so even the liberal states that lost seats will be forced to redraw what remaining seats they have to favor rural areas more. even a 50 seat swing will give the GOP a lock on the House for a decade and a total lock on the electoral college. the democrats know all of this and that's why they want to expand the House seats and abolish the electoral college. under this the current democrat party is finished unless they completely jettison the far left, if they don't they become a bicoastal boutique party.
as to people like Poles and other liberal white immigrants, they're largely urban and wouldn't even be counted until 2030. then power may shift back but the democrat party will most likely be more ideologically similar to the current suburban cuckservative, minus the Christian facade. I live in a state with a lot of Poles and most of them vote democrat purely because they're union members. they're truck drivers, auto workers and the like. they aren't the pink haired demi queer trans intersectional feminist that runs the Left.
as great as all this sounds it's only a band aid and doesn't address the fundamental issue. our national identity must be white or there is no nation. the GOP will most likely squander this opportunity to heal the nation, the ideals born of the 1960s must be eradicated in order to ensure the nation's survival. in the turbulent decade to come America will be fortress ZOG. maybe they just want to keep America together long enough to finally establish greater Israel. Bibi has already promised to annex Gaza and the West Bank. once Israel is strong enough to stand on it's own they may let just allow America to collapse and the Zionist project will be complete. the parasite will leave the host and return to Israel. never forget for Zionism to work the Jew must suffer. the collapse of America would be just that.
Europe will be reborn, it will be horrible but of their rebirth I have no doubt. being an American, I'm concerned about my homeland, my kin and kith. racially and ethnically Europe will survive, they haven't taken nearly as many non whites and their removal won't be as difficult. one baby boom can solve a lot so I'm not worried about that. it's just a matter of excising the cancerous cultural marxism.
in America we have too many non whites to remove them physically. a civil war would mean balkanization, because every other power would prop up the different racial groups. a fractured America is no longer a threat. I think this is the path we're on but I hope our leaders have some sense and try to save America which would mean barring non white immigration, allowing non whites to assimilate naturally, abolishing the racial preference system and cleansing cultural marxism from our society. yeah I know this is just an outlandish hope but one I hope we take.
I can see your reasoning and it's is a legitimate concern. however if a SCOTUS case goes Trump's way, it isn't going to matter in the short term.
Trump wants to put a citizenship question on the 2020 census. the democrats have been fighting in the courts but SCOTUS is surprisingly taken it up bypassing the normal procedures. assuming the citizenship question is allowed it will completely gut the democratic party for a decade.
the illegal and foreign population is largely in a few states. California, Texas, New York, New Jersey, Illinois and Florida. each of the 435 representatives in the house, each one roughly represents 700k. prb is saying that 45 million people could potentially under counted. that could potentially be 65 house seats lost to the democrats. because those seats would go to states with more native born. Louisiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, Mississippi, Iowa and a few others.
https://www.prb.org/citizenship-question-risks-a-2020-census-undercount-in-every-state-especially-among-children/
there is another SCOTUS case this summer that's going to magnify this shift even more. there is a case against gerrymandering. let's assume gerrymandering is rule against. if it is that means the new districts will have to be drawn from the 2020 census data which will heavily favor rural areas over urban, so even the liberal states that lost seats will be forced to redraw what remaining seats they have to favor rural areas more. even a 50 seat swing will give the GOP a lock on the House for a decade and a total lock on the electoral college. the democrats know all of this and that's why they want to expand the House seats and abolish the electoral college. under this the current democrat party is finished unless they completely jettison the far left, if they don't they become a bicoastal boutique party.
as to people like Poles and other liberal white immigrants, they're largely urban and wouldn't even be counted until 2030. then power may shift back but the democrat party will most likely be more ideologically similar to the current suburban cuckservative, minus the Christian facade. I live in a state with a lot of Poles and most of them vote democrat purely because they're union members. they're truck drivers, auto workers and the like. they aren't the pink haired demi queer trans intersectional feminist that runs the Left.
as great as all this sounds it's only a band aid and doesn't address the fundamental issue. our national identity must be white or there is no nation. the GOP will most likely squander this opportunity to heal the nation, the ideals born of the 1960s must be eradicated in order to ensure the nation's survival. in the turbulent decade to come America will be fortress ZOG. maybe they just want to keep America together long enough to finally establish greater Israel. Bibi has already promised to annex Gaza and the West Bank. once Israel is strong enough to stand on it's own they may let just allow America to collapse and the Zionist project will be complete. the parasite will leave the host and return to Israel. never forget for Zionism to work the Jew must suffer. the collapse of America would be just that.
Europe will be reborn, it will be horrible but of their rebirth I have no doubt. being an American, I'm concerned about my homeland, my kin and kith. racially and ethnically Europe will survive, they haven't taken nearly as many non whites and their removal won't be as difficult. one baby boom can solve a lot so I'm not worried about that. it's just a matter of excising the cancerous cultural marxism.
in America we have too many non whites to remove them physically. a civil war would mean balkanization, because every other power would prop up the different racial groups. a fractured America is no longer a threat. I think this is the path we're on but I hope our leaders have some sense and try to save America which would mean barring non white immigration, allowing non whites to assimilate naturally, abolishing the racial preference system and cleansing cultural marxism from our society. yeah I know this is just an outlandish hope but one I hope we take.
>>215803
>but I hope our leaders have some sense and try to save America which would mean barring non white immigration
>our leaders
>ZOG
Any question?
>but I hope our leaders have some sense and try to save America which would mean barring non white immigration
>our leaders
>ZOG
Any question?
>>215803
>citizenship question
>gerrymandering is ruled against
I can only get so erect.
That also means the Federal Reserve is going to bring on the pain to have people be more desperate to fan the fire.
>citizenship question
>gerrymandering is ruled against
I can only get so erect.
That also means the Federal Reserve is going to bring on the pain to have people be more desperate to fan the fire.
>>215794
>The problem is sampling, bias
This wouldn't be a problem because my point is not on skew. Even if Eastern Europeans did vote republican more often then not, if they didn't vote for republicans as often as say Germans did it would still prove my point. Thus even if the polls are biased towards left wingers it has very little impact since my point is that Eastern Europeans mostly fall on the lower end of the democratic spectra compared to other "white" groups. These polls were all done by the same biased group so it matters little as long as the spread isn't completely fucked, which given the very large sample size for many of the groups and the fact that Ryan cited it I can trust the information at hand to prove my point.
>Cough WWII Cough. Cough Cold War Cough
Then vs now. Slavs like I said initial post are nearly done eliminating western influence in their land, including our western elite. You can thank Stalin and the subsequent collapse of communism and failure of capitalism for that.
>>215799
>A good statistic has a large sample size and is quite clear: for example, "13% of the population commits 50% of the murders." We know this is a sample size of the entire United States
I don not want to go autismo on this but this is a really dumb thing to say. A population is obviously going to be the most reliable source of information compared to a statistic. But when you hit large numbers normally that doesn't matter, and all that does is bias which as I'm making the case doesn't really affect my point since its about relative distributions compared to other distributions (the distributions being party voting patterns and the correlation between eastern euros and western euros which since its being measured against each other doesn't really matter in terms of bias.)
>The problem is sampling, bias
This wouldn't be a problem because my point is not on skew. Even if Eastern Europeans did vote republican more often then not, if they didn't vote for republicans as often as say Germans did it would still prove my point. Thus even if the polls are biased towards left wingers it has very little impact since my point is that Eastern Europeans mostly fall on the lower end of the democratic spectra compared to other "white" groups. These polls were all done by the same biased group so it matters little as long as the spread isn't completely fucked, which given the very large sample size for many of the groups and the fact that Ryan cited it I can trust the information at hand to prove my point.
>Cough WWII Cough. Cough Cold War Cough
Then vs now. Slavs like I said initial post are nearly done eliminating western influence in their land, including our western elite. You can thank Stalin and the subsequent collapse of communism and failure of capitalism for that.
>>215799
>A good statistic has a large sample size and is quite clear: for example, "13% of the population commits 50% of the murders." We know this is a sample size of the entire United States
I don not want to go autismo on this but this is a really dumb thing to say. A population is obviously going to be the most reliable source of information compared to a statistic. But when you hit large numbers normally that doesn't matter, and all that does is bias which as I'm making the case doesn't really affect my point since its about relative distributions compared to other distributions (the distributions being party voting patterns and the correlation between eastern euros and western euros which since its being measured against each other doesn't really matter in terms of bias.)
>>215804
haha well I did say it was an outlandish hope.
>>215805
Greenspan doesn't head the fed anymore but when money Jews are talking like this, you're right they're going to bring the pain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BrGAHyVbnk
haha well I did say it was an outlandish hope.
>>215805
Greenspan doesn't head the fed anymore but when money Jews are talking like this, you're right they're going to bring the pain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BrGAHyVbnk
>>215633
"Are X White?" discussions have to be the least productive in the world. What do we have here? Germs, who made some of the world's best armies, Meds, who made some of the world's most prevalent culture, and Slavs, who have resisted their neighbors for millenia untold in defiance of all predictions.
Who do we have outside? Violent retards who do nothing but ask for your stuff and then take it anyways, ultraviolent morons who are just smart enough to build weapons but not smart enough to not use them, gigatards who sleep on roads, and Bean people who create narco-states once per month. The only other race who doesn't outright hate us b/c ain't us is Asians, and they aren't allies except for convenience's sake. If the differences between the whites are really so big that they need to be addressed (which I doubt), it's still the least pressing thing on our minds right now because we've got people who are actually our enemies banging down our doors.
"Are X White?" discussions have to be the least productive in the world. What do we have here? Germs, who made some of the world's best armies, Meds, who made some of the world's most prevalent culture, and Slavs, who have resisted their neighbors for millenia untold in defiance of all predictions.
Who do we have outside? Violent retards who do nothing but ask for your stuff and then take it anyways, ultraviolent morons who are just smart enough to build weapons but not smart enough to not use them, gigatards who sleep on roads, and Bean people who create narco-states once per month. The only other race who doesn't outright hate us b/c ain't us is Asians, and they aren't allies except for convenience's sake. If the differences between the whites are really so big that they need to be addressed (which I doubt), it's still the least pressing thing on our minds right now because we've got people who are actually our enemies banging down our doors.
File (): 04CA2B0D54CD62F96EFCCAE98D1FECE6-45003332.mp4 (42.9 MB, Resolution:1280x720 Length:00:05:13, Our Collective Future - We're in this Together.mp4) [play once] [loop]
>>215826
>it's still the least pressing thing on our minds right now because we've got people who are actually our enemies banging down our doors.
Yup.
>it's still the least pressing thing on our minds right now because we've got people who are actually our enemies banging down our doors.
Yup.
>>215837
Europe is on the verge of demographics based depression. shit is going to hit the fan, the yellow vests are just the beginning.
ex CIA nigger analyst Peter Zeihan is basically saying that "we could very well see the worst Europe has to offer" which will cause ((( sophisticated capital))) out of Europe to the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75-viL_4Ar8
as their economy tanks the Jew will be rightfully and naturally blamed. you're already beginning to see the storm cloud rising and Jews are openly talking about leaving. 66% say they will go to Israel and 10% say they'll come to the US. these are the shekel lords.
https://www.ft.com/content/a8f26a56-fc62-11e8-aebf-99e208d3e521
I know it's Vox but it does show something interesting when you consider the above. Trump's been using the Lautenberg amendment to bring in more European Christians, which has the left pissed but at no time are they trying to repeal it. why? because it also applies to Jew and can easily be extended to non Eastern Bloc nations, which Obama did for Iranian Christians. in a Europe were Jews aren't welcomed no US political will oppose bringing them in as refugees.
https://www.vox.com/2018/9/17/17832912/trump-refugee-news-statistics
I mention all of this because a Europe largely free of Jewish influence and in an economic depression will probably go into kebab removal which means Africans will just have to starve. sub Saharan Africa is probably going to face the worst famine in human history at a point when virtually nobody will give much of a shit.
this is why I think Europe will be saved but in America, it's a different story.
Europe is on the verge of demographics based depression. shit is going to hit the fan, the yellow vests are just the beginning.
ex CIA nigger analyst Peter Zeihan is basically saying that "we could very well see the worst Europe has to offer" which will cause ((( sophisticated capital))) out of Europe to the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75-viL_4Ar8
as their economy tanks the Jew will be rightfully and naturally blamed. you're already beginning to see the storm cloud rising and Jews are openly talking about leaving. 66% say they will go to Israel and 10% say they'll come to the US. these are the shekel lords.
https://www.ft.com/content/a8f26a56-fc62-11e8-aebf-99e208d3e521
I know it's Vox but it does show something interesting when you consider the above. Trump's been using the Lautenberg amendment to bring in more European Christians, which has the left pissed but at no time are they trying to repeal it. why? because it also applies to Jew and can easily be extended to non Eastern Bloc nations, which Obama did for Iranian Christians. in a Europe were Jews aren't welcomed no US political will oppose bringing them in as refugees.
https://www.vox.com/2018/9/17/17832912/trump-refugee-news-statistics
I mention all of this because a Europe largely free of Jewish influence and in an economic depression will probably go into kebab removal which means Africans will just have to starve. sub Saharan Africa is probably going to face the worst famine in human history at a point when virtually nobody will give much of a shit.
this is why I think Europe will be saved but in America, it's a different story.
>>215857
>I think Europe will be saved but in America, it's a different story.
Balkanization is what it looks like as a remedy.
>I think Europe will be saved but in America, it's a different story.
Balkanization is what it looks like as a remedy.
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>>215857
>>215861
Sounds like they are trying to recreate something like WWII.
Here's a sequence of events they want to have happen.
>Economic shakeup.
>They Run Away.
>Parts of Europe will either be
>raped and killed
>or rise above and beyond
>They get the muslims angry because Europeans are on full kebab removal.
>They try to get the goyim in a panic and frightened. (Antisemitic goy don't you see. They turn the kebabs and us lampshade survivors into curtains. They are also antifeminism too goy.)
>'Merica starts preparing for war.
>The propaganda and connections in Asia cause a panic over a World War. (The great Satan is back.)
>Africa without any food will fight anyone and everyone for it. (They then burnout.)
>Connections to south America to either take over the USA or burn it to the ground. (All the men are gone to go fight. Helpless women and children for the plundering.)
>Canada being infested with sandcoons may also do some pillaging if they arn't delt with.
>USA with beaners, coons, and kebabs gets turned into a shithole. With no one to defend the nation.
>Pesky Europe is finished.
>White America is done for.
>Just need to end old foes in the sand lands.
>Remove chinks and kimchi fans.
>Another bomb or two in Japan land.
>Enslave everyone who survives.
>Australia has Emus better use it as blood sports land.
>The World is ready for the chosen people.
How things might go well.
>Europe removes kebab.
>America removes lampshades.
>Removes undesirables.
>Somehow doesn't fall into civil war.
>Canada is Ready to fuck shit up.
>Africa is still foodless. (Might attack the jew?)
>China's revolution is in motion.
>Korea does a thing?
>(((Propaganda))) fails and backfires
>Looks like it's 100% complete with hidden achievements.
Or something like that.
>>215861
Sounds like they are trying to recreate something like WWII.
Here's a sequence of events they want to have happen.
>Economic shakeup.
>They Run Away.
>Parts of Europe will either be
>raped and killed
>or rise above and beyond
>They get the muslims angry because Europeans are on full kebab removal.
>They try to get the goyim in a panic and frightened. (Antisemitic goy don't you see. They turn the kebabs and us lampshade survivors into curtains. They are also antifeminism too goy.)
>'Merica starts preparing for war.
>The propaganda and connections in Asia cause a panic over a World War. (The great Satan is back.)
>Africa without any food will fight anyone and everyone for it. (They then burnout.)
>Connections to south America to either take over the USA or burn it to the ground. (All the men are gone to go fight. Helpless women and children for the plundering.)
>Canada being infested with sandcoons may also do some pillaging if they arn't delt with.
>USA with beaners, coons, and kebabs gets turned into a shithole. With no one to defend the nation.
>Pesky Europe is finished.
>White America is done for.
>Just need to end old foes in the sand lands.
>Remove chinks and kimchi fans.
>Another bomb or two in Japan land.
>Enslave everyone who survives.
>Australia has Emus better use it as blood sports land.
>The World is ready for the chosen people.
How things might go well.
>Europe removes kebab.
>America removes lampshades.
>Removes undesirables.
>Somehow doesn't fall into civil war.
>Canada is Ready to fuck shit up.
>Africa is still foodless. (Might attack the jew?)
>China's revolution is in motion.
>Korea does a thing?
>(((Propaganda))) fails and backfires
>Looks like it's 100% complete with hidden achievements.
Or something like that.
>>215869
the table seems to be setting for scenario 1
Bibi is promising to annex the West Bank if he's reelected. 2.7 million Palantinians will have to be removed. funny but there are about 2-3 million Jews/crypto Jews in Europe. 2/3rds of 3 million is 2 million. is Bibi clearing space for new tenets?
https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2019/04/07/binyamin-netanyahu-promises-to-start-annexing-the-west-bank
the Jews and their golems are exactly why America is in the state it is today. they feared anodda shoah, so gave "oppressed" groups special rights, not all at once but slowly. then they imported their non white golems and used them against whites. our entire society is so fucked up because of this.
yes the Jews did this to the people that saved them from the ebil Nazis. our payback was to have our country destroyed.
if America does go down, I hope the civilized world finally realizes the nature of the Jew and their fear becomes a reality.
the table seems to be setting for scenario 1
Bibi is promising to annex the West Bank if he's reelected. 2.7 million Palantinians will have to be removed. funny but there are about 2-3 million Jews/crypto Jews in Europe. 2/3rds of 3 million is 2 million. is Bibi clearing space for new tenets?
https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2019/04/07/binyamin-netanyahu-promises-to-start-annexing-the-west-bank
the Jews and their golems are exactly why America is in the state it is today. they feared anodda shoah, so gave "oppressed" groups special rights, not all at once but slowly. then they imported their non white golems and used them against whites. our entire society is so fucked up because of this.
yes the Jews did this to the people that saved them from the ebil Nazis. our payback was to have our country destroyed.
if America does go down, I hope the civilized world finally realizes the nature of the Jew and their fear becomes a reality.
>>215837
Beautiful video. Do you have a version that cuts the (frankly unneeded) ending bits and brings it under 5 minutes?
Beautiful video. Do you have a version that cuts the (frankly unneeded) ending bits and brings it under 5 minutes?
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>>215887
Try to share this video too.
The UK (((government))) have banned National Action, and threats the British people with kidnapping for to watch its material.
Try to share this video too.
The UK (((government))) have banned National Action, and threats the British people with kidnapping for to watch its material.
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