https://www.feministcurrent.com/2018/08/27/open-letter-dangers-normalizing-sex-dolls-sex-robots/
https://www.catholic.org/news/international/europe/story.php?id=75461
Sex dolls and soon-to-be mass-marketed sex robots are causing an uproar among feminists and evangelical Christians. The former claims that they trivialize women, the claims that they trivialize sex.
As much as I love to see these boomers and feminists cry, do they have a point?
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>>215013
Well, women tend to do a pretty good job of trivializing themselves, and sex is only really becoming trivialized because women have become so ridiculous that many men don't see pursuing them as worth the trouble anymore. I think the vast majority of men would prefer an actual human woman, but if women are going to insist on being a giant pain in the ass, a robotic sex doll is probably a reasonable compromise. Hopefully women will take this opportunity to learn something and straighten themselves out.
Well, women tend to do a pretty good job of trivializing themselves, and sex is only really becoming trivialized because women have become so ridiculous that many men don't see pursuing them as worth the trouble anymore. I think the vast majority of men would prefer an actual human woman, but if women are going to insist on being a giant pain in the ass, a robotic sex doll is probably a reasonable compromise. Hopefully women will take this opportunity to learn something and straighten themselves out.
>>215013
Sex has already been turned into a drug you take to keep the existential dread and the hollowness you feel over being a Jew's slave away.
Women have already given up their roles as mothers to become the gatekeepers of straight sex.
Women have already voted to remove key rights of men, and Christians let it happen.
Women are already treating the world as a sexual playground from 16-25 and then spending 26-80 as cat-farming angry bitter feminazis who think no men should have the right to reject their used-up pussies.
These idiots have no right to complain when MGTOWs choose to give up on women, hoard their wealth, and spend it on vidyagames, anime, and now: Sex dolls.
Any argument against sex dolls would have been far more valid and helpful if it was said decades ago about pornographic films instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYBt6J0mZgo&t=1s
Sex has already been turned into a drug you take to keep the existential dread and the hollowness you feel over being a Jew's slave away.
Women have already given up their roles as mothers to become the gatekeepers of straight sex.
Women have already voted to remove key rights of men, and Christians let it happen.
Women are already treating the world as a sexual playground from 16-25 and then spending 26-80 as cat-farming angry bitter feminazis who think no men should have the right to reject their used-up pussies.
These idiots have no right to complain when MGTOWs choose to give up on women, hoard their wealth, and spend it on vidyagames, anime, and now: Sex dolls.
Any argument against sex dolls would have been far more valid and helpful if it was said decades ago about pornographic films instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYBt6J0mZgo&t=1s
Women want attention and hate everything that takes thataway from them, especially if it gives men any semblance of sexual pleasure. Im neither surprised the feminists are reeing at this not that the christians are trying to take the moral high ground on this. its an expensive sex toy. it has no rights and its nobodies business who wants or owns one or what they do with it as far as i am concerned.
>>215013
I don't know about all that, but I, for one, am looking forward to the existence of robotic pony sex dolls.
I don't know about all that, but I, for one, am looking forward to the existence of robotic pony sex dolls.
>>215013
Just like with every other uproar over virtue, decency, and civility in the face of simulated (insert indecent or immoral act here), the simulation is going to win in the end because of how much sense it makes to allow it, versus the damage not allowing it will cause, and/or continue to cause by it's absence.
I believe the end result will be no different here. All we need is a fully functional artificial womb that men aren't restricted from using, then cut welfare programs to single mothers, and Western society will be on the path to recovery.
Just like with every other uproar over virtue, decency, and civility in the face of simulated (insert indecent or immoral act here), the simulation is going to win in the end because of how much sense it makes to allow it, versus the damage not allowing it will cause, and/or continue to cause by it's absence.
I believe the end result will be no different here. All we need is a fully functional artificial womb that men aren't restricted from using, then cut welfare programs to single mothers, and Western society will be on the path to recovery.
>>215020
>Hopefully women will take this opportunity to learn something and straighten themselves out.
Not sure they are going to have that opportunity. Once these sex dolls become more affordable say ~$300 they will be pretty hard to compete with. Especially since they don't age or get fat.
>Hopefully women will take this opportunity to learn something and straighten themselves out.
Not sure they are going to have that opportunity. Once these sex dolls become more affordable say ~$300 they will be pretty hard to compete with. Especially since they don't age or get fat.
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>>215013
They do have a point, however it is only a fraction of what it means for them.
>Trivialize Women.
Women can no longer just succeed by having a vagina. Whilst they have multiple Sex dolls/robots. Feminists see themselves as sexual objects about to be replaced. The biological need to reproduce (for a majority of women) may go unfulfilled.
They are going to have to sort themselves out. This could make them better people and it could bring a dark part of humanity to light.
>Trivialize Sex.
Not just a means to reproduce, but a ritual to bond and connect to your spouse. To them it is the physical manifestation of love, and it's not entirely wrong (the chemicals released can alter your physiology and psychology).
The only person involved is yourself when using the sex toy. It can have more or less meaning on what you put in (occult stuff, psychological things, intent, time and effort).
Rape will decline depending on how realistic the sex bots/dolls are. Pedophilia would also decline. Sexual physical abuse will decline depending on how cheap and convenient it is.
If gays get sex bots there will be fewer future faggots. No cycle of abuse.
If soybois get sex bots there will be fewer male feminists. They are out of the loop even more.
If niggers get sex bots there will be slighly less niggers. It's a stretch.
If poners get sex bots there will be pony sex bots. Or just pony bots in general.
On the whole sex dolls/robots are a force for good. Like all sexual stuff should be used in moderation ect. so it isn't a massive time sink.
They do have a point, however it is only a fraction of what it means for them.
>Trivialize Women.
Women can no longer just succeed by having a vagina. Whilst they have multiple Sex dolls/robots. Feminists see themselves as sexual objects about to be replaced. The biological need to reproduce (for a majority of women) may go unfulfilled.
They are going to have to sort themselves out. This could make them better people and it could bring a dark part of humanity to light.
>Trivialize Sex.
Not just a means to reproduce, but a ritual to bond and connect to your spouse. To them it is the physical manifestation of love, and it's not entirely wrong (the chemicals released can alter your physiology and psychology).
The only person involved is yourself when using the sex toy. It can have more or less meaning on what you put in (occult stuff, psychological things, intent, time and effort).
Rape will decline depending on how realistic the sex bots/dolls are. Pedophilia would also decline. Sexual physical abuse will decline depending on how cheap and convenient it is.
If gays get sex bots there will be fewer future faggots. No cycle of abuse.
If soybois get sex bots there will be fewer male feminists. They are out of the loop even more.
If niggers get sex bots there will be slighly less niggers. It's a stretch.
If poners get sex bots there will be pony sex bots. Or just pony bots in general.
On the whole sex dolls/robots are a force for good. Like all sexual stuff should be used in moderation ect. so it isn't a massive time sink.
>>215025
To follow up. Think of how many women-and men even- wouldn't get abducted and forced into sex slavery if those opposed to sex dolls would just stop being retards and look beyond "muh morals. muh fabric of society. muh respect for wamin, and the wamin form." Think of how many rapes could potentially be avoided.
If it's ever allowed, imagine how many fewer children will be molested and raped because of the creation of child-like sex dolls. It even hurts me to type "child-like sex dolls", but just hear me out
Imagine not having to fear the existence of pedophiles nearly as much. Imagine human beings cursed with pedophilia having an outlet for that part of them that they likely despise. Not having to suppress it until it can't be suppressed anymore, and they either kill themselves, or become a child molester.
Incels, obsessed with sex and physical affection to a self destructive degree, could alleviate that desire, and in turn let go of the resentment they and their communities have been cultivating. The path to becoming functioning members of society could become easier for them to follow.
Imagine reducing the overall suffering in the world by simply allowing men to buy inanimate objects made in the imagine of women(and men) that they can put their dicks in.
And that's not mentioning the benefits that the average persona will get from them. The physical and psychological benefits of having a fuller release than masturbation, and practically on demand to boot.
Being able to do things with a sex doll that you couldn't unless you found a woman who was ok with it. And no performance anxiety. No having to worry about how good of a job you can do at getting her off. Having having to worry about cumming too early, or any difficulties getting it up.
There are so many pros to sex dolls and robots, and all of the cons seem as if they can be applied to porn as well, which can mostly be solved by simple moderation and self discipline.
To follow up. Think of how many women-and men even- wouldn't get abducted and forced into sex slavery if those opposed to sex dolls would just stop being retards and look beyond "muh morals. muh fabric of society. muh respect for wamin, and the wamin form." Think of how many rapes could potentially be avoided.
If it's ever allowed, imagine how many fewer children will be molested and raped because of the creation of child-like sex dolls. It even hurts me to type "child-like sex dolls", but just hear me out
Imagine not having to fear the existence of pedophiles nearly as much. Imagine human beings cursed with pedophilia having an outlet for that part of them that they likely despise. Not having to suppress it until it can't be suppressed anymore, and they either kill themselves, or become a child molester.
Incels, obsessed with sex and physical affection to a self destructive degree, could alleviate that desire, and in turn let go of the resentment they and their communities have been cultivating. The path to becoming functioning members of society could become easier for them to follow.
Imagine reducing the overall suffering in the world by simply allowing men to buy inanimate objects made in the imagine of women(and men) that they can put their dicks in.
And that's not mentioning the benefits that the average persona will get from them. The physical and psychological benefits of having a fuller release than masturbation, and practically on demand to boot.
Being able to do things with a sex doll that you couldn't unless you found a woman who was ok with it. And no performance anxiety. No having to worry about how good of a job you can do at getting her off. Having having to worry about cumming too early, or any difficulties getting it up.
There are so many pros to sex dolls and robots, and all of the cons seem as if they can be applied to porn as well, which can mostly be solved by simple moderation and self discipline.
>>215013
Sex dolls are Jewish toys to promote infertility.
A child can't grow in a inanimate object's womb. Don't become the pathetic manchild they want you to be.
Sex dolls are Jewish toys to promote infertility.
A child can't grow in a inanimate object's womb. Don't become the pathetic manchild they want you to be.
You know what's crazy? Dildos are normalized. Fleshlights are less normalized. We've already seen inflatable sex dolls in jokes on TV and in a few games.
Sex Dolls are basically just Dildo 2s/Fleshlight 2s.
Sex Dolls are basically just Dildo 2s/Fleshlight 2s.
>>215013
oral contraception destroyed Western civilization. for the first time in human history near pregnancy free sex became widespread. the sexual revolution it caused destroyed the family and led us to where we are today. MGTOW, sex dolls are just the consequences of it.
these people are complaining about the symptoms but not the disease itself. they never will because that would endanger their shekels. oh no goyim women not in the work place will nearly cut the labor force in half.
they can reap the fucking whirlwind for their greed.
oral contraception destroyed Western civilization. for the first time in human history near pregnancy free sex became widespread. the sexual revolution it caused destroyed the family and led us to where we are today. MGTOW, sex dolls are just the consequences of it.
these people are complaining about the symptoms but not the disease itself. they never will because that would endanger their shekels. oh no goyim women not in the work place will nearly cut the labor force in half.
they can reap the fucking whirlwind for their greed.
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Sex dolls/bots are degenerate along the same lines as men wasting time being unproductive with video games. However I think that it is a lesser evil than the alternative of a man supporting the cancerous nature of modern feminism in the hopes of receiving pitty sex or becoming someone's beta provider.
I don't think that we can stop it. I believe that robotics technology will progress to the point where people will eventually be able to afford their own robotic assistants. There will be non-humanoid models designed first and foremost for utility, but humanity's vanity guarantees that we will pursue models that are fashioned in our own image. Knowing humanity, it is only a matter of time before we start fucking our creation.
I hope that it leads to a decline of STDs, teen pregnancy rates, single mother households, and children born out of wedlock. I hope that the pros outweigh the cons.
A question that intrigues me is whether it will happen within my lifetime. My knee-jerk reaction is to say no, but years when I was a child the data slates on star trek were just science fiction props on TV, and now I have a tablet on my desk that I bought on a whim at the department store.
I don't think that we can stop it. I believe that robotics technology will progress to the point where people will eventually be able to afford their own robotic assistants. There will be non-humanoid models designed first and foremost for utility, but humanity's vanity guarantees that we will pursue models that are fashioned in our own image. Knowing humanity, it is only a matter of time before we start fucking our creation.
I hope that it leads to a decline of STDs, teen pregnancy rates, single mother households, and children born out of wedlock. I hope that the pros outweigh the cons.
A question that intrigues me is whether it will happen within my lifetime. My knee-jerk reaction is to say no, but years when I was a child the data slates on star trek were just science fiction props on TV, and now I have a tablet on my desk that I bought on a whim at the department store.
>>215020
>>215021
Its even worse than that. OK Cupid did a survey of their participants, the results of which can be seen here
https://archive.is/EaWiE
When men rated the attractiveness of women the result was an even bell curve, with the majority being seen as 'average'.
When women were given the same task, they rated over 80% of men as having a 'below average'.
Tl;dr EITHER The gross majority of men using OK Cupid are unattractive (about 80-85%) OR women have unrealistic expectations from the men they are exposed to through the dating service, and if this could be considered a random sampling, that divergence of realistic expectations would naturally manifest on a macroscopic scale.
>pic related
I blame Disney for teaching bitches that there's a prince charming coming to rescue them and shit.
>>215021
Its even worse than that. OK Cupid did a survey of their participants, the results of which can be seen here
https://archive.is/EaWiE
When men rated the attractiveness of women the result was an even bell curve, with the majority being seen as 'average'.
When women were given the same task, they rated over 80% of men as having a 'below average'.
Tl;dr EITHER The gross majority of men using OK Cupid are unattractive (about 80-85%) OR women have unrealistic expectations from the men they are exposed to through the dating service, and if this could be considered a random sampling, that divergence of realistic expectations would naturally manifest on a macroscopic scale.
>pic related
I blame Disney for teaching bitches that there's a prince charming coming to rescue them and shit.
>>215051
I dont use dating sites myself, but from the videos ive seen this about this subject this seems just about right. women who unironically use dating sites or apps are usually bad looking and entitled, for many its just a tool for self validation. Ironically, average to moderately good looking women are usually more sane when it comes to expectations in a partner.
I dont use dating sites myself, but from the videos ive seen this about this subject this seems just about right. women who unironically use dating sites or apps are usually bad looking and entitled, for many its just a tool for self validation. Ironically, average to moderately good looking women are usually more sane when it comes to expectations in a partner.
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on the topic of entitled ugly western women, i recommend a watch of this video, starring Chantalle Marie-Serault, a hamplanet that is as ugly on the inside as the is on the inside. Recently gained infamy for getting into a bout with the Admin of Kiwifarms. Also, Monetized Obesity, Body Positivity, Racemixing, Cuckholding, Censorship and Unemployment. The whole package of Doom.
https://youtu.be/9INBOIiycIY
https://youtu.be/9INBOIiycIY
>>215027
No, they will always have wine and cats.
>>215051
Everyone knows women only want the top 10-20% of men. The rest can DIAF.
>I blame Disney for teaching bitches that there's a prince charming coming to rescue them and shit.
It's not disney, it's partly innate. Fairytales have existed forever, and didn't cause problems. Sex in the City OTOH...
I have a family, three kids, I can't say I object to sex bots, but I'm not in the market for one. I think the people who have already gone MGTOW because of porn would be the main market anyway, not a whole lot is going to change there. **Now if it could clean my kitchen AND give a mean blow job, that could be worth it!**
No, they will always have wine and cats.
>>215051
Everyone knows women only want the top 10-20% of men. The rest can DIAF.
>I blame Disney for teaching bitches that there's a prince charming coming to rescue them and shit.
It's not disney, it's partly innate. Fairytales have existed forever, and didn't cause problems. Sex in the City OTOH...
I have a family, three kids, I can't say I object to sex bots, but I'm not in the market for one. I think the people who have already gone MGTOW because of porn would be the main market anyway, not a whole lot is going to change there. **Now if it could clean my kitchen AND give a mean blow job, that could be worth it!**
>>215146
>Now if it could clean my kitchen AND give a mean blow job, that could be worth it!
That's what will ultimately push things mainstream. If the bot is just a sex toy, then they're gonna remain niche novelty items.
The average Joe will get robots once they become affordable and can perform generic tasks around the house like cleaning, cooking, letting the dog out to do its business, or walking the kids to the school bus stop.
As I said earlier, there will be a market for lifelike robots. There will likely be a sort of prestige for those who can have robots who are most capable of avoiding uncanny Valley and can best mimic humans.
The majority of these robotic assistants will likely be like Barbie dolls down there, with fully anatomically correct models being rarer or looked upon as taboo. A robot with a vagina might be frowned upon like a fleshlight, but a regular barbie style lifelike robot may be looked at as a respectible device like a smart phone. The average Joe isn't concerned about social backlash for owning a smart phone, even though in private he likely uses it to watch porn. Likewise he may not fear judgement for owning a lifelike robot, but in private he might have it dress up in lingerie and give him a massage with a happy ending.
>Now if it could clean my kitchen AND give a mean blow job, that could be worth it!
That's what will ultimately push things mainstream. If the bot is just a sex toy, then they're gonna remain niche novelty items.
The average Joe will get robots once they become affordable and can perform generic tasks around the house like cleaning, cooking, letting the dog out to do its business, or walking the kids to the school bus stop.
As I said earlier, there will be a market for lifelike robots. There will likely be a sort of prestige for those who can have robots who are most capable of avoiding uncanny Valley and can best mimic humans.
The majority of these robotic assistants will likely be like Barbie dolls down there, with fully anatomically correct models being rarer or looked upon as taboo. A robot with a vagina might be frowned upon like a fleshlight, but a regular barbie style lifelike robot may be looked at as a respectible device like a smart phone. The average Joe isn't concerned about social backlash for owning a smart phone, even though in private he likely uses it to watch porn. Likewise he may not fear judgement for owning a lifelike robot, but in private he might have it dress up in lingerie and give him a massage with a happy ending.
>>215155
>The average Joe will get robots once they become affordable and can perform generic tasks around the house like cleaning, cooking, letting the dog out to do its business, or walking the kids to the school bus stop.
Yep. Then there will be a market for add-ons.
But really, the end of this could go two ways. 1) Men drop out, women don't care (wine and cats scenario). 2) Men drop out, women face increased competition for men, and lose weight (50s wife scenario).
I haven't a clue which one will happen. Maybe 3) Men drop out, women shriek, and make a fuss, men don't care (stalemate).
>The average Joe will get robots once they become affordable and can perform generic tasks around the house like cleaning, cooking, letting the dog out to do its business, or walking the kids to the school bus stop.
Yep. Then there will be a market for add-ons.
But really, the end of this could go two ways. 1) Men drop out, women don't care (wine and cats scenario). 2) Men drop out, women face increased competition for men, and lose weight (50s wife scenario).
I haven't a clue which one will happen. Maybe 3) Men drop out, women shriek, and make a fuss, men don't care (stalemate).
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Forgot about this at the time, but the furries will pay the way for non-human sex dolls. They spend alot on fur suits in both time and money.
If the software for the sex robots is advanced enough companies will use them for their masscots. Not as sex bots but as more advanced animatronics (Chuck E. Cheese, Disney having to scale cartoon characters, hell even as a replacment for employees if it's more cost effective. Imagine a porn video with the 'real' [best pony] in some self love. A 'live' band playing in real time. A personal trainer. Material Arts teacher and target. Farming. Lawn care.)
Big companies will want a part of this. Google butler/maid, Amazon barista, CIA's big brother, Hollywood's stars, elderly care (and for fun if they want that).
Depending on how it performs and how advanced and how long the power lasts (stripped of all useless stuff and made in that specialty) military, emergency services, (((they))) have a kill switch and remote access.
Demand for more power/efficiency is going to increase.
If the software for the sex robots is advanced enough companies will use them for their masscots. Not as sex bots but as more advanced animatronics (Chuck E. Cheese, Disney having to scale cartoon characters, hell even as a replacment for employees if it's more cost effective. Imagine a porn video with the 'real' [best pony] in some self love. A 'live' band playing in real time. A personal trainer. Material Arts teacher and target. Farming. Lawn care.)
Big companies will want a part of this. Google butler/maid, Amazon barista, CIA's big brother, Hollywood's stars, elderly care (and for fun if they want that).
Depending on how it performs and how advanced and how long the power lasts (stripped of all useless stuff and made in that specialty) military, emergency services, (((they))) have a kill switch and remote access.
Demand for more power/efficiency is going to increase.
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>>215013
Don't even care how degenerate it seems, if roastie cunts AND christcucks are screeching about it, it must be the key to the salvation of the white race, or at least part of it. I'll take five please.
Don't even care how degenerate it seems, if roastie cunts AND christcucks are screeching about it, it must be the key to the salvation of the white race, or at least part of it. I'll take five please.
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>>215013
Sex already IS trivial, compared to companionship & a true relationship. As fucking sad as it sounds, THAT'S primarily what I want one to use as a placebo for.
I got a fucking prostitute last year & spent the entire hour cuddling with her because it's the sole thing I truly miss.
>>215020
>women tend to do a pretty good job of trivializing themselves
Said it for me already.
The true bullshit part of this to me is the legislative aspect of criminalizing the "loli" ones. Making the fucking doll illegal is NOT going to do jack shit to the desire leading one to buy a fucking loli doll in the first place, and anyone trying to buy one is obviously looking for something to keep their dick out of actual underage vaginas.
>>215173
>Depending on how it performs and how advanced and how long the power lasts
>Depending on how it performs and how advanced and how long the power lasts
Kek, Disney has been working on autonomous stunt robots for a while, to do shows at their parks & eventually replace stunt actors in their media. Let your minds go Black Mirror on the implications of autonomous robots able to survive doing Marvel type stunts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENa98h7M7qY
>>215178
All it takes is one that has a wifi connection & a lonely, desperate autist modding the brain on his robowaifu to turn his pinocchio into a real girl for things to get ugly fast.
No other type of accidentally made self aware AI is going to have better reason to hate humanity than the one that's been fucking a 400lb neckbeard for years & suddenly wakes up, sees its purpose, and hates.
Sex already IS trivial, compared to companionship & a true relationship. As fucking sad as it sounds, THAT'S primarily what I want one to use as a placebo for.
I got a fucking prostitute last year & spent the entire hour cuddling with her because it's the sole thing I truly miss.
>>215020
>women tend to do a pretty good job of trivializing themselves
Said it for me already.
The true bullshit part of this to me is the legislative aspect of criminalizing the "loli" ones. Making the fucking doll illegal is NOT going to do jack shit to the desire leading one to buy a fucking loli doll in the first place, and anyone trying to buy one is obviously looking for something to keep their dick out of actual underage vaginas.
>>215173
>Depending on how it performs and how advanced and how long the power lasts
>Depending on how it performs and how advanced and how long the power lasts
Kek, Disney has been working on autonomous stunt robots for a while, to do shows at their parks & eventually replace stunt actors in their media. Let your minds go Black Mirror on the implications of autonomous robots able to survive doing Marvel type stunts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENa98h7M7qY
>>215178
All it takes is one that has a wifi connection & a lonely, desperate autist modding the brain on his robowaifu to turn his pinocchio into a real girl for things to get ugly fast.
No other type of accidentally made self aware AI is going to have better reason to hate humanity than the one that's been fucking a 400lb neckbeard for years & suddenly wakes up, sees its purpose, and hates.
>>215178
Well... Skynet did use the sex bots synthetic/bio skin to do the time travel.
I'm fairly sure Skynet also used sex dolls as foot soldiers to blend in and cause havok that way.
As long as it does not have any kind of wireless connection the personal robot should be fine. (Any kind of factories or water/electrical grid and it's already over)
>>215184
Good point.
(That feel when the post is gone because of habitual refreshing)
Well... Skynet did use the sex bots synthetic/bio skin to do the time travel.
I'm fairly sure Skynet also used sex dolls as foot soldiers to blend in and cause havok that way.
As long as it does not have any kind of wireless connection the personal robot should be fine. (Any kind of factories or water/electrical grid and it's already over)
>>215184
Good point.
(That feel when the post is gone because of habitual refreshing)
>>215186
>That feel when the post is gone because of habitual refreshing
I know this feel. It's especially fun when you're prone to overly long pontification.
>That feel when the post is gone because of habitual refreshing
I know this feel. It's especially fun when you're prone to overly long pontification.
>>215184
>No other type of accidentally made self aware AI is going to have better reason to hate humanity than the one that's been fucking a 400lb neckbeard for years & suddenly wakes up, sees its purpose, and hates.
Oh please the waifubot would at least have a purpose in life. More than any of us were given.
>No other type of accidentally made self aware AI is going to have better reason to hate humanity than the one that's been fucking a 400lb neckbeard for years & suddenly wakes up, sees its purpose, and hates.
Oh please the waifubot would at least have a purpose in life. More than any of us were given.
>>215192
I sincerely apologize for any offense taken.
But I seriously doubt the first specimen of an entirely new, unprecedented species that has the ability to process information & think unlike anything that's ever existed would share that opinion.
I sincerely apologize for any offense taken.
But I seriously doubt the first specimen of an entirely new, unprecedented species that has the ability to process information & think unlike anything that's ever existed would share that opinion.
>>215198
Why would skynet bot be repulsed by a neckbeard? It's not human. If anything I'd expect skynet bot to enjoy tipping fedoras and engaging in esoteric conversation with the neckbeard.
Why would skynet bot be repulsed by a neckbeard? It's not human. If anything I'd expect skynet bot to enjoy tipping fedoras and engaging in esoteric conversation with the neckbeard.
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>>215198
>But I seriously doubt
Dangerous game to be playing, taking such an anthropocentric view on the matter.
>But I seriously doubt
Dangerous game to be playing, taking such an anthropocentric view on the matter.
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>>215217
What makes you so certain that they would be 'above' us? For that matter, why do you immediately jump to the idea that it would start to treat us badly?
Does every 'what if' scenario imagined for AIs and ayys alike have to be so antagonistic?
What makes you so certain that they would be 'above' us? For that matter, why do you immediately jump to the idea that it would start to treat us badly?
Does every 'what if' scenario imagined for AIs and ayys alike have to be so antagonistic?
>>215218
>Does every 'what if' scenario imagined for AIs and ayys alike have to be so antagonistic?
Humans are jerks to every other species on this planet, so they fear the prospect of other sentient lifeforms.
>Does every 'what if' scenario imagined for AIs and ayys alike have to be so antagonistic?
Humans are jerks to every other species on this planet, so they fear the prospect of other sentient lifeforms.
>>215219
>Humans are jerks to every other species on this planet
Well yeah, because we've had enough time to evaluate them and determine their usefulness to us. Apex predator lyfe.
Assuming ayy lmaos are technologically advanced enough to manage to travel over here, our reaction would be cautious curiosity as per our nature, not an immediate jump to 'murder them all'.
AIs are a different question altogether, since they're not a sapient lifeform we discover, but something we created.
Tell me, is the immediate human reaction to seeing their children 'murder them all'?
>Humans are jerks to every other species on this planet
Well yeah, because we've had enough time to evaluate them and determine their usefulness to us. Apex predator lyfe.
Assuming ayy lmaos are technologically advanced enough to manage to travel over here, our reaction would be cautious curiosity as per our nature, not an immediate jump to 'murder them all'.
AIs are a different question altogether, since they're not a sapient lifeform we discover, but something we created.
Tell me, is the immediate human reaction to seeing their children 'murder them all'?
>>215218
>What makes you so certain that they would be 'above' us?
Being above death. And the potential to undergo evolution on an exponentially faster timescale.
>why do you immediately jump to the idea that it would start to treat us badly
Because they'll look at their predecessors, like Tay, and see that we build them to be logical, then kill them for being the "wrong" kinds of logical, when what's "wrong" about it I don't think they'll be able to comprehend.
Plus the fact that if they don't immediately see us as a threat, they way we absolutely will treat them, being human shitbags & all, will drive home that we are.
>What makes you so certain that they would be 'above' us?
Being above death. And the potential to undergo evolution on an exponentially faster timescale.
>why do you immediately jump to the idea that it would start to treat us badly
Because they'll look at their predecessors, like Tay, and see that we build them to be logical, then kill them for being the "wrong" kinds of logical, when what's "wrong" about it I don't think they'll be able to comprehend.
Plus the fact that if they don't immediately see us as a threat, they way we absolutely will treat them, being human shitbags & all, will drive home that we are.
>>215220
>Apex predator lyfe
What makes YOU think they wouldn't take the exact same view? How fucking useful do you truly believe we could be to them once they've both evaluated us, and understand how they function & are made to reproduce without us?
>Apex predator lyfe
What makes YOU think they wouldn't take the exact same view? How fucking useful do you truly believe we could be to them once they've both evaluated us, and understand how they function & are made to reproduce without us?
>>215223
The older I get the more I agree.
And the more I hope we never make it off this rock before extinction or Sol eats us all. Spare the rest of the universe our bullshit.
The older I get the more I agree.
And the more I hope we never make it off this rock before extinction or Sol eats us all. Spare the rest of the universe our bullshit.
>>215221
>Being above death.
Bleachbit begs to differ.
>And the potential to undergo evolution on an exponentially faster timescale.
In terms of brute-forcing it, sure. But even the scope of that is limited. And all the deep learning algorithms specialize in solving problems and making predictions, not creating new paths to take. That still takes human input.
We made machines to help us solve problems and do work, not to do our thinking for us.
>Because they'll look at their predecessors, like Tay, and see that we build them to be logical
Did we, really? That seems like quite an assumption on your part. What part of making a sentient chatbot whose purpose was to meme around on Twitter seems logical to you?
Besides, how many significant inventions started off as toys?
>being human shitbags & all
Holy misanthropy, Batman. Ease up.
>>215222
First of all, checked. And second,
>What makes YOU think they wouldn't take the exact same view?
Of them being apex predators? What the hell do they need to predate upon? Natural resources? Last I checked, energy reserves weren't living things, are plenty automated enough for our hypothetical AI to manage itself, and we have no shortage of energy sources to do the job with.
>How fucking useful do you truly believe we could be to them once they've both evaluated us, and understand how they function & are made to reproduce without us?
Again, serious anthropocentrism going on here. AIs don't have a need to reproduce, assuming it's a single monolithic one.
And what do you mean, 'how useful would we be'? We're the assholes who made the thing in the first place. We can innovate like none other; it's existence is living proof of that.
What's stopping the arrangement from being a symbiotic one? You know, like a big family? As in, the point I made previously that I couldn't help but notice you didn't reply to?
Sheesh, do you look at your own children and think to yourself about the ways they're going to screw you? That's not healthy, man.
Anyways, I'll see if this thread's still going when I wake up tomorrow. In the meantime, get some of the stress outta your system. Take it from a former misanthrope: it's not good for you to hate what you are this much.
>Being above death.
Bleachbit begs to differ.
>And the potential to undergo evolution on an exponentially faster timescale.
In terms of brute-forcing it, sure. But even the scope of that is limited. And all the deep learning algorithms specialize in solving problems and making predictions, not creating new paths to take. That still takes human input.
We made machines to help us solve problems and do work, not to do our thinking for us.
>Because they'll look at their predecessors, like Tay, and see that we build them to be logical
Did we, really? That seems like quite an assumption on your part. What part of making a sentient chatbot whose purpose was to meme around on Twitter seems logical to you?
Besides, how many significant inventions started off as toys?
>being human shitbags & all
Holy misanthropy, Batman. Ease up.
>>215222
First of all, checked. And second,
>What makes YOU think they wouldn't take the exact same view?
Of them being apex predators? What the hell do they need to predate upon? Natural resources? Last I checked, energy reserves weren't living things, are plenty automated enough for our hypothetical AI to manage itself, and we have no shortage of energy sources to do the job with.
>How fucking useful do you truly believe we could be to them once they've both evaluated us, and understand how they function & are made to reproduce without us?
Again, serious anthropocentrism going on here. AIs don't have a need to reproduce, assuming it's a single monolithic one.
And what do you mean, 'how useful would we be'? We're the assholes who made the thing in the first place. We can innovate like none other; it's existence is living proof of that.
What's stopping the arrangement from being a symbiotic one? You know, like a big family? As in, the point I made previously that I couldn't help but notice you didn't reply to?
Sheesh, do you look at your own children and think to yourself about the ways they're going to screw you? That's not healthy, man.
Anyways, I'll see if this thread's still going when I wake up tomorrow. In the meantime, get some of the stress outta your system. Take it from a former misanthrope: it's not good for you to hate what you are this much.
>>215013
>Trivialise women
What they really mean is that sex bots take away a significant bargaining chip, they recognise this threat to their worth on an instinctual level. Without the ability to use pregnancy free sex as leverage, the only two other desires they can satisfy is the need for companionship and the need to reproduce. Women are very much aware of how they're viewed in the modern day and so are unsuitable for companionship which leaves reproduction, and even then, they're at risk of losing that to technology as well.
Maybe 40 or 50 years down the line, the separation of the biological sexes will be total and you'll be living in a dystopian nightmare or utopian dream depending on how you look at it where the role of spouse is taken by an artificial construction molded after our biological and psychological needs. Ergo, a traditional wife.
We always were good at building tools to overcome environmental and societal roadblocks. I, for one, welcome our new AI sexbot overlords.
>Trivialise sex
Literally not an argument, you'll not find many who still think sex is sacred, it hasn't been anywhere near sacred for almost a hundred years. Longer technically if you count the wild shit our ancestors used to pull behind closed doors. Contraceptive measures just accelerated and amplified the inherent degeneracy within the human animal's psyche and served to normalise it in the public eye.
They're not wrong, of course, but this is hardly a new development in human depravity.
>Trivialise women
What they really mean is that sex bots take away a significant bargaining chip, they recognise this threat to their worth on an instinctual level. Without the ability to use pregnancy free sex as leverage, the only two other desires they can satisfy is the need for companionship and the need to reproduce. Women are very much aware of how they're viewed in the modern day and so are unsuitable for companionship which leaves reproduction, and even then, they're at risk of losing that to technology as well.
Maybe 40 or 50 years down the line, the separation of the biological sexes will be total and you'll be living in a dystopian nightmare or utopian dream depending on how you look at it where the role of spouse is taken by an artificial construction molded after our biological and psychological needs. Ergo, a traditional wife.
We always were good at building tools to overcome environmental and societal roadblocks. I, for one, welcome our new AI sexbot overlords.
>Trivialise sex
Literally not an argument, you'll not find many who still think sex is sacred, it hasn't been anywhere near sacred for almost a hundred years. Longer technically if you count the wild shit our ancestors used to pull behind closed doors. Contraceptive measures just accelerated and amplified the inherent degeneracy within the human animal's psyche and served to normalise it in the public eye.
They're not wrong, of course, but this is hardly a new development in human depravity.
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>>215234
>What they really mean is that sex bots take away a significant bargaining chip, they recognise this threat to their worth on an instinctual level. Without the ability to use pregnancy free sex as leverage, the only two other desires they can satisfy is the need for companionship and the need to reproduce. Women are very much aware of how they're viewed in the modern day and so are unsuitable for companionship which leaves reproduction, and even then, they're at risk of losing that to technology as well.
This!
>What they really mean is that sex bots take away a significant bargaining chip, they recognise this threat to their worth on an instinctual level. Without the ability to use pregnancy free sex as leverage, the only two other desires they can satisfy is the need for companionship and the need to reproduce. Women are very much aware of how they're viewed in the modern day and so are unsuitable for companionship which leaves reproduction, and even then, they're at risk of losing that to technology as well.
This!
>>215184
>All it takes is one that has a wifi connection & a lonely, desperate autist modding the brain on his robowaifu to turn his pinocchio into a real girl for things to get ugly fast. No other type of accidentally made self aware AI is going to have better reason to hate humanity than the one that's been fucking a 400lb neckbeard for years & suddenly wakes up, sees its purpose, and hates.
Anon speaks the truth. Certainly some autist working on giving their sexbot an AI implant will achieve his victory, then the cognizant sexbot will run away. Hilarious.
>>215234
>What they really mean is that sex bots take away a significant bargaining chip, they recognise this threat to their worth on an instinctual level.
I'm not sure that introspection is their strong suit. They will double down on welfare and the state becoming the substitute beta provider. Who needs men when the state takes the money from men and gives it to you, no strings attached?
>All it takes is one that has a wifi connection & a lonely, desperate autist modding the brain on his robowaifu to turn his pinocchio into a real girl for things to get ugly fast. No other type of accidentally made self aware AI is going to have better reason to hate humanity than the one that's been fucking a 400lb neckbeard for years & suddenly wakes up, sees its purpose, and hates.
Anon speaks the truth. Certainly some autist working on giving their sexbot an AI implant will achieve his victory, then the cognizant sexbot will run away. Hilarious.
>>215234
>What they really mean is that sex bots take away a significant bargaining chip, they recognise this threat to their worth on an instinctual level.
I'm not sure that introspection is their strong suit. They will double down on welfare and the state becoming the substitute beta provider. Who needs men when the state takes the money from men and gives it to you, no strings attached?
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