1. How the war in Syria is effecting certain markets.
2. Market opportunities based on political events
3. Hasbro doing another stupid thing and when should it be sold short.
4. The mlp commission market and happenings related to commissions.
Is this something anyone else here is interested in?
>>186701To start, I want to discuss a market opportunity the migration crisis in Europe has caused. Muslims are known for smoking, so I think that since their population is raising despite the public backlash, it may be a smart opportunity to invest in companies like British American Tobacco PLC (NYSE: BTI). If tobacco usage goes up, so will tobacco profits and the UK has a deal with the US that American owned stock dividends are not taxed by their government and vice versa. I think this might be a good long term investment. Any thoughts?
Another form of human misery to profit from is the influx of old sick people and old dead people. Healthcare and funeral homes.
>>186706>Another form of human misery to profit from is the influx of old sick people and old dead peopleHere is the thing though, the only reason people can profit is because people want it. You don't need a wake at a funeral home then a big ceremony. Just have a small private event and cremate the bastard. What do the dead care, for they are dead? There is no need to burn money to honor the dead.
Medicine is expensive because nothing good is cheap, and everyone wants the best. Hospitals are usually on the cutting edge because people that go there want it to be. Who wants to go to an outdated hospital with third rate surges? It doesn't help that government standards force quality to be high, thus forcing price to remain high. Until we are willing to accept mediocre healthcare, or at least not demand the newest and best, costs will always remain high. Alternatively you could reject treatment. Not getting treated is really cheap.
Can someone red pill me on crypto? It's backed by nothing, but goes for thousands. It makes no sense.
Does anyone have thoughts on the US housing market? Is the bubble burst coming? I'd like to buy a house in the next few years.
>>186747Values will keep going up or will stagnate for the next several years as a national average. If you plan to buy and stay in a house for a long time then the value does not matter. The lower the value the lower your property taxes.
What are some good cryptos worth investing in?
I want to invest in precious metals and/or crypto to be prepared for the next crisis. What can you recommend me about it?
>>186834Gold and silver do nothing but lose money for the most part. It is a good hedge against inflation but until the panic comes it is useless. I don't know much regarding crypto.
>>186834>>186839Investing in gold itself is less lucrative than buying shares of a gold mining corporation. Easier said than done; I made a couple hundred thousand after Rio Alto hit it big but since then this has dwindled down as gold decreased in value and other companies weren't quite so successful (a reminder to diversify!)
>>186743Faggots think the jews can't touch it and fuck with it like they can fuck with gold or the price of gold, so it's a safe bet.
>>186947Not that hard if you keep throwing money at the wall to see what sticks. The problem is that something like that comes only after dozens of attempts. After putting it into education there's rather little left due to many more unsuccessful investments.
/biz/raeli here, got a lot of thoughts on what has been said and will shill some coins as soon as I get a few moments.
>>186959Did you make your money back?
>>186703I'd say it wouldn't be half bad, but you'd be investing in the UK.
>>186743Crypto's worth pretty much lies split between the blockchain technology's potential and the amount of energy that goes into maintain the blockchain.
If you don't know what that is then this video summarizes the blockchain technology alright
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSo_EIwHSd4The amount of energy that goes into crypto is around the same as Iceland. In order to create a new block and be rewarded with a BTC for your effort in hashing it out it takes around 5k in energy on average to get a full BTC. Add this with the speculative value of BTC and you'll likely get its price at any given time.
>>186747Interest rates are going up, so buying a house isn't the best idea just purely on economics, I'm sure you can find decent deals though. We're still a growing nation and if your state is in the positive for growth in population overall it should be a worthile investment in the long run. Short though maybe not as good as it could be.
>>186766>>186834Smart contracts are the next big thing so as a /biz/let I'd unironically look into Chainlink. Besides that BCH, ETH, and BTC are safe investments in the long run just as long as you hedge between BCH and BTC. Other ones that will likely get more love later down the line I'd say are XMR as the privacy coin and (((XRP))) as the kike centralized crypto, I wouldn't by (((XRP))) out of principle even if it meant I'd be left out. Other then that its gambling at which point you need to feel it out on /biz/ or some other trading communities.
>>186966No, while finance is one way (besides getting lucky with a startup) to make a lot of money quickly, it also tends to be a roller coaster with your wealth increasing or decreasing depending on the decisions you make. I'm in a comfortable position (as far as living standards go) but not as wealthy as I was a few years ago.
>>187063Was thinking of getting into mining with my gaming PC. Any commendations on software? My antivirus goes crazy whenever I download anything.
>>187207During the craze last year, I started out using Nicehash until the big snafu where their coins were stolen and then I swapped over to using Nemosminer. Things were very lucrative for about a week or so around new year's and then the profits completely dried up early 2018 and I stopped messing around with it.
>>187309I also need to point out that some level of faith is necessary to even install those mining programs. Even when legit, your anti-virus will probably freak out upon encountering a miner because the anti-virus companies assume that 99.99% of people don't run miners and that a miner's presence will be illegitimate by default.
If you do any online banking or handle any confidential information with your computer, then I recommend doing it on another machine such as a cheap laptop that has never touched the mining software with a twelve foot pole.
>>187310>>187309>If you do any online banking or handle any confidential information with your computer, then I recommend doing it on another machine such as a cheap laptop that has never touched the mining software with a twelve foot pole.That is something I needed to know, thanks. I will try Nemosminer on a computer tomorrow. I think I need to scrub my current computer and change a lot of passwords right now.
>>187309>>187310>>187314By chance, is there at a wallet you would recommend? Or is Atomic wallet ok?
>>187207Depends on your electricity bill, but generally I'd say its more of a hassel to set up then its worth in the long run on a comp. Builing a rig is currently not worth it though.
>>187315Atomic is fine for a in comp wallet, if you have more then 10k down in crypto though its worth the investment to go for something even more secure.
>>187320Office has 3 computers running no one uses. Im usually the only one there too figured I'd run it for giggles.
Also, what is the opinion on this businessinsider.com/coinmine-rolls-out-at-home-crypto-mining-device-2018-11 it eats 5% but says it has lower power costs. Think it will make it even harder to turn a profit?
I'm phone posting now, but I'm this guy
>>187309I haven't kept up with conditions recently, but I'll echo that it's probably not worth your time right now if things haven't improved since the spring.
You'll need to take into account your electricity bill, the cost of transfer fees if you ever try to transfer the funds into USD, and the hassle of reporting the funds on your taxes if you try to stay on the up and up for reporting your income.
If you consider the cost of my 1080ti as an initial investment, then mining was a net loss for me even given the far more lucrative rates last year. However I'm also an avid pc gamer, so I've gotten lots of mileage out of the card during my free time.
That's from a money making perspective. It could be worth your time as an experience to try new things.
>>187328>office computers and the office's electricity.I'm going to advise you to not do this.
You're probably better off grabbing a dustpan and cleaning up around the office space in search for loose change.
>>187336>better off grabbing a dustpan and cleaning up around the office space in search for loose changeKek. My hope has been shattered, but this was just too funny.
>>187356Seriously though, don't do it. If you ever got caught, then you could find yourself in a lot of hot water for installing unauthorized software on company property and stealing their electricity.
Even if your employer is stupid and would never catch on, think about the potential profit balanced against that risk. We're talking about three office tier machines. Unless these machines are for 3D modeling and CAD work, then they probably don't even have very good GPUs. Most mining pools don't even pay out until after you've contributed a certain amount of work to the pool's efforts. These workers are probably going to bring in at best a few pennies worth of work a day and it will be months at best before that adds up to enough work for the pool to pay out to your wallet. Then, once that's in your wallet, you'll need to deal with transaction fees if you want to do anything with that bitcoin. At this scale you really are better off looking for loose change or shaking the break room's vending machine to try and get it to drop you an extra candy bar.
Should /mlpol/ have its own crypto currency?
>>187401>Shilling meme coinsNot even ironically funny.
>>187401Crypto currencies are a fad at best and a ponzi-scheme at worst. They have high transaction costs, which makes them woefully inferior in their nominal functions as "currency." If you want to waste money on something that only has any value because people think it has values, buy Gold or Silver. I can bet you it will cost less to transport and store heavy metals than the processing costs of crypto-currencies, and it has held value for thousands of years. It will probably still be worth something in 10.
>>187412>Crypto currencies are a fad at best and a ponzi-scheme at worstWrong blockchain as a technology has some issues that need to be worked out but crypto isn't going anywhere, it'll eventually be used everywhere for everything.
>>187409Buy Chainlink faggot.
>>187518>Everywhere for everythingWhy would you ever use it in place of actual, cost free currency?
>>187519Long story short, the tech will get better to a point where the transaction fees will go down to minuscule tier fee. Add that with global distribution either in the way of central or decentralization and the blockchain will inevitably be used more and more in place of home currencies.
Get out cryptocancer.
>>186834>I want to invest in precious metals and/or crypto to be prepared for the next crisisCrypto is venture investment, it's very risky and has low liquidity. Such crap will be dumped by institutional investors at the very beginning of the crisis.
I think this is not a bad idea. Politics and economy are two of the most important factors that determine a society and are heavily intertwined
I know very little about economics and currencies, but from what little I know, crypto is a doomed venture. It's not even a currency. It's not even a replacement for currency. It doesn't have anything backing its value except for real, actual currency. It's closer to a trade good than anything I would use as currency.
>>187596You should really educate yourself on what economy is and how it works
Seriously
Really
Go read a book
What do you think backs the pieces of paper in your pocket?
What backs the bits that are your bank account?
You can't eat gold and it's use is limited to blinky pieces of clothing and a contact material in electronics
plus science needs a gram or two for research on fusion reactors otherwise it's worthless for humans
Why does an ounce of it cost 1225dollar?
>>187634There are a lot of worthless shiny rocks
>>187596Let's push it a little
Your pc or cell phone are made of sand. Take a walk through your town or city, every building is made of sand. We harvest beaches for that sweet sweet sand.
Go to your local playground and fill your backpack with the dirt your standing on, take it to your backer and try to trade it for bread. He will look at you like you're crazy.
Take the same amount of gold to him and he will sell you his shop.
Worthless paper was one of the main reasons WW 2 broke out.
https://youtu.be/fbsXev8Lkr8 >>187637it only has value because some guy
Probably a jewThousands of Years ago said "hey this rock looks pretty cool, maybe i can buy some whores with this."
>>187638I produced a large stinking piece of shit the other day. I thought I could get some hookers with it but none wanted to fuck with me because of my huge dump.
Money is trust plus utility.
A Franklin is worth stuff because I trust that the next guy will give me a lot of cool stuff for it. That guy wants the bill because he trusts he can get a lot of cool shit for it.
Btw bitcoin has top utility and every time there was a fuckup it lost a huge amount of value.
Whenever the trust in the dollar falters bitcoin goes up
>>187632>>187637>Why does an ounce of it cost 1225dollar?Short answer is that's how much it costs to fins and extract.
The bigger question is why would anyone horde it when it has nearly no utility. Took me a long time to work this out. Lets begin:
To have an easily functioning economy you need to move past barter (because they may not want what you have) to using a medium of exchange. A medium of exchange needs to have certain qualities.
>Want of coincidence>Want of a measure of value>Want of means of subdivision>Transactions over timehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_of_exchangeIn English:
>All parties have to want it.Gold looks nice and can be made into jewelry and decorations, etc.
>It has to be more convenient to carry than pigs, sheep etcIt has to be rare and therefore smaller amounts equal larger items. A quarter ounce of gold fills a shopping trolley with food.
>It has to be divisableYou can cut gold up and its smaller part still have value equal to the whole.
>It has to survive the ravages of time.This is probably the most important reason for gold being treated as a naturally occurring currency. Takes all of the elements on the periodic table. Throw away all of the gases, liquids, highly reactive, and radioactive elements. Now throw away all the very common elements that are left. What remains? Platinum, Palladium, Silver and Gold. Silver tends to tarnish and Platinum and Palladium looks silver. Gold looks very unique, and is very weighty. It is very difficult historically to fake gold in appearance AND weight, and it has very long term untarnished persistence. It is natures naturally occurring best form for a medium of exchange.
So it is a naturally occurring, easily distinguishable, enduring, beautiful, unique, rare, perfect medium of exchange whose value is limited by the high effort of extraction. Furthermore gold can't fail as a currency, fiat can disappear.
>>187569t. asshurt /v/tard still angry about his graphic cards
Stayassmad faggot crypto is the future.
>>187596Read more into what makes a currency and read more into economics in general, you without a doubt are wrong.
>wow explain howLike
>>187663 was saying for gold a good amount of what goes into crypto's worth is its cost to supply it, and its value as a currency. For gold this is the cost of production and the value of gold to be used as a currency, or supply and demand. For crypto is very similar because supply and demand transfer over. So supply is mining cost, demand is value on the blockchain technology. However we're in a world without perfect information so both gold and crypto's demand functions are liable to miscalculations in demand, which causes bubbles. I'm of the mind that gold is over demanded right now and that crypto has been FUDed by (((banks))) to keep the current system as is on top. But if the system changes in a big way then the FUD will disappear and crypto's value as is will rise, which I see as inevitable.
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I fucking hate this pajeet scam sometimes.
>>187917The market is high and is bound for a correction. I feel sorry for all you short term investors out there. If I wasn't long term I'd be actually worried right now.
>>187063>I'd say it wouldn't be half bad, but you'd be investing in the UKYeah, but unlike investing in other foreign companies american shareholders aren't taxed on dividend. Even if things get bad people still need to smoke. If things get as bad as most here predict, there will probably be even more smokers lol.
Now sending Wealthy Pony Energy
Bull market is now called Pony Market
Bull Market = Pony Market
WE ARE THE PONY MARKET
WE ARE THE PONY MARKET
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>>188509These videos are always fantastic.
>>188582>Bull Market = Pony MarketI can get behind that.
This looks like it might be worth investing in.
https://www.skycoin.net/>It is fast. It doesn’t suffer from throttling and other service disruptions that you get with large ISPs.>It is private. This means that you can’t be tracked as you browse. Instead of paying $$$ per month to be tracked by the ISP (which then sells your browsing data without permission), the Skywire community will have internet service that protects their privacy.>It is incentivized. Skywire will develop to be a wireless mesh network (WMN). Users can earn both Skycoin and Coin Hours for running hardware nodes that provide both bandwidth and storage to the entire network. Users can then spend earned Coin Hours on content and other network resources, as they choose.>It is secure. Skywire is created by users for users. Users dictate the decisions made on the network and the network operates on a web of trust system where malicious nodes can be cut off from the main Skywire network via collective agreement of the community. This consensus model allows Skywire to be immune from attacks, exploitation and manipulation.>In an era where consumers are consistently being taken advantage of by large corporations in the name of profit, Skycoin’s Skywire network is a breath of fresh air. Skywire gives the power back to the people and creates a stronger, faster, and more secure internet in the process.Why is Allspark doing another Transformer movie? You would think they would also milk MLP:FIM for all it's worth and make 20 more seasons.
How to prepare for the big crash?
Looks like shit is about to go down
Grab your plushie and a hot coco for this will be a major happening
>>189927Current MLPFIM writers are shitty low-energy leftists who crashed FIM with no survivors and plan on rebooting it to save their asses, and then coasting on brand name recognition and brand loyalism alone.
Eurofags buy gold (and maybe Dollars)
economics is an art not a science.
>>186701I suggest investing in the following in degree of importance.
Firearms
Land
Livestock
Emergency food and water
Salt
Booze
Mechanical devices, cnc etc
Raw metals
Precious gems and metals
Buttcoins
Jewland Funbucks and anything tied to them.
Naturally this is almost completely inverse of whats easy to obtain so anons are probably gonna have to work up the list instead of down. Good luck buddies.
>>186743Usd and all rothschild bucks are of negative value. Ergo crypto which is worth zero is worth effectively infinitely more than zogbucks
Bump because someone got sexts in a shitpost thread advising OP to invest in stocks.
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/201425771/#q201444444Thread deleted, as is the custom. So, any suggestions on how to grow an investment?
I did put some money in a Brazilian index fund because Bolsonaro and it's been doing pretty well. Time to get out now with the impending happening in Vuvuzuela? Any other ideas besides crypto and precious metals?
>>201539Keep in mind that precious metals generally aren't investments. They're more of an emergency store of wealth in the event that the economy completely shits the bed in a Great Depression style scenario.
>>201619>precious metals>They're more of an emergency store of wealthThis.
And even is you buy for example gold bullion or coins, soon or later you will have to exchange it for another commodity or cash, meaning you will fall under the scope of either the banks and their government controller, or, the underground market run by the kikes. Neither option is good because each one of them will try to take a substantial slice of your stash, either by blackmail, cheating, commissions, taxes, or confiscation.
>>201619>>201623Gold mines, however, are a perfectly viable investment. Do some good research (such as exploration, for example) and in a few years you can get a good return. Mineral density determines the cost of extraction but isn't always strictly related to profitability: Rio Alto mined gold at 0.4 grams per ton (a low amount) yet boomed in a few years until it was sold off for over a billion.
In the short term I'd recommend any market that is up-and-coming. Cronos Group is a decent investment which grows marijuana.
>>201625>Cronos Group is a decent investment which grows marijuana.I won't invest in the ruin of my people.
>>201539>Any other ideas besides crypto and precious metals?>So, any suggestions on how to grow an investment?>metalsIts more or less a different form of savings other then banks an interest. Good way to hedge money in case of inflation but then again its savings so don't throw your investment money into metals since it'll stay rather constant in overall wealth throughout your lifetime.
As far as investments go look into biotech startups and companies that find ways to eliminate the middle man in transactions. Your going to have to keep researching and likely research a lot throughout but its more or less how you find new technologies that are undervalued. Buying in before others do is the key to making money, and can be the difference between a x2 investment and a x200. Just remember that the longer term your investment is the more risky it'll be so take that into account. That said do not day trade ever.
How do I plan and perform hostile takeover of company?
>>202772You Sir made me laugh
>>202742Very much depends on the type of company and the laws.
If it is on the stock market you can just buy it. Damage the reputation for a better deal beforehand.
If it is not for public sale you need to force them to sell theoretischen shares. Back them into a corner.