/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>181919
It was published in 1992, isn't the notion of giving up and prepping for the end times largely unneeded now that we've got a conservative wave in most western countries?

>>181921
librel or Conservative,it doesnt matter they both work for the same (((people)))

>>181923
And that's why further work is needed, worming our way free of das jude is naturally going to be a difficult, decades long process. The alternative is going full Robert Bowers and pissing on what ground we've gained to no effect.

>>181921
No, fascism is a whole different beast to conservatism. A wave of conservatism would be the same shit packaged differently. Look at trump, still a kike puppet who did basically nothing to adressed the major issues but he's "baseeeed" because he said something vaguely nationalistic once or twice. siege calls to burn the entire corrupt current system to the ground and to start over through national socialism.conservatism is individualist and selfish, a more outdated form of liberalism. National Socialism is collectivist and puts emphasis on the Volk. You're not going to establish a white paradise through a dying antique form of liberalism

>>181927
And yet, Hitler didn't need to burn Germany to the ground and rebuild it from its ashes. If he could pull off what he did given his opposition without entirely destroying everything first (granted, there wasn't much left to destroy at the time) then we can too. It's all about shifting the overton window further and further to the right.

>>181931
Things will need to get a lot worse before Normies will accept natsoc.

>>181919
Don't you tell me what to do.

>>181927
Trump's only problem is that he is only a single man, and he has to put up with a congress full of Neo-liberal Republicans and "Resistance" Democrats. If Congress had enough like him all would be accomplished.

>>181934
Trump is a zionist shill

>>181935
Oh please

>>181936
Grow up, hes not your friend.

>>181937
I was about to say that.

>>181932
Collapse isn't the only way to get people to adopt national socialism, even after jews spent almost a century trying to crush it, it still has its supporters and is still gaining more at a trickle.

Besides, just what do you think will happen if we go Apocalypse Now? I'll tell you what I think will happen if it happens in the US. Whatever world powers deign to notice will merely send in troops to "restore order", and by that I mean vassalise you, potentially China, maybe the EU. You won't be building your NatSoc paradise from the ashes, you'll just be trading one corrupt system for another and giving that system full license to put you down as "anarchists", and whatever lemmings are still alive at that point will sign on with whoever that is in a heartbeat to regain whatever living comforts they lost.

>>181937
Do you believe that it makes no difference if the Republicans are in power versus the Democrats in 2018 or 2020?

>>181940
no, the outcome will be the same. the destruction of our race and country. it will just be more dragged out with Republicans, have you ever wondered why conservatives have failed to conserve anything our country was founded on? because they do not care about us.all they care about is shekels.

It always "amuses" me that people think that the next wave of destruction and misery will lead to utopia. We've been told this for thousands of years. Never happened even once.

>>181941
Do you honestly believe that Diane Feinstien or Kamala Harris would do *anything* to make the situation better? Do you think it wouldn't become catastrophically worse?

Paul Ryan and the Neo-Cons are a part of a Neo-liberal worldview and world order that sees values as universal and culture as inconsequential, while valuing money most of all. Of course outcomes are bad when they are in power. The New Conservatism recognizes the importance of culture upon people and of the nation in relation culture. The change is already there in the base, but it will take time to reach the leadership. Donald Trump's victory proved that money alone does not win elections, and the results of this coming midterm may show the same. We are holding the line.

Whether the West can be saved in time is uncertain. But either way, to believe that there is no meaningful difference between Trump and the Left requires a suicidal blindness. Progress is being made in the fight to stop the complete destruction of our country and culture, and if you will not help, then step out of the way.

>>181948
>le edgy black pill
If you want to pretend that it's all the same, then move to England or Germany. The government's there are more along the lines of what you want. Leave America to those who want to act

>>181949
Do you know who made the trump campaign successful? no you dont because you refuse to see past >le god empoorer maymay

>>181951
I would say that he was so successful because so many Americans were tired of Leftist bullshit and a "conservative class" that was more interested in sucking America dry of money for their donors than in actually serving America

>>181952
m8, he was funded by other (((billionaires))) he had more money than Clinton in his campaign donations.
https://www.newyorke r.com/magazine/2017/03/27/the-reclusive-hedge-fund-tycoon-behind-the-trump-presidency
>inb4 hurr durr sourcing a leftist magizine

>>181953
But you notice that he had half the funding of Clinton? And Robert mercer is a man who "despises the Republican Political establishment." Why is it a concern if he donates money because he feels the same way we do?

>>181954
because he has ties to zionism. both Blumpff and he. he doesn't feel the same way we do.

>>181955
Two questions for you. First, why would being opposed to killing 50 - 90 year olds in a religious ceremony be the same as actively supporting the destruction of America and its people, which he Left wants?

Second, if Trump does lead to the same result as the left taking power now, how will America save itself except by using Trump to hold back long enough for preparations to be made?

>>181926
>And that's why further work is needed
No matter how much work you put, the kikes will put forward false decoys to trick the goyim into a sense of belonging and certainty to derail any resistance and, if possible, use it to their own purposes and in the end self destroy.
As a yuuuuge example look at the Azov Battalion in Ukraine. At its surface promote itself as a "nationalist Neo-Nazi force battling the evil Russian invaders", but the truth is really sinister; Ukraine have been taken over by CIA and Israel and Azov is funded by jewish oligarchs.
A parallel example is ISIS, where the same CIA and Israel were behind pulling the strings, proxies as Jordan, Turkey and others making the training and weapons supply, and Qatar and the Saudis making the funding.

Of course this is a Blackpill, but knowing how the cards are stacked give us a perspective in how to try to win an almost impossible game.

>>181956
>q1
after this (((killer))) is put to death, he will Start cracking down on Anti semitism just like "good old uncle joe"
>q2
the only way for america to save herself is national socialism. hes not making any preparations dude, 4d chess is real but he not playing on our side, hes playing on the side of the jews.

>>181958
Trump knows better than to let the Left use this as an excuse for censorship, and "Uncle Joe" is a pet name given by a Democrat - any Republican of that time period knew Communism for what it was

How is an ideology with less than 1% support going to take power in the US?

>>181957
I've long given up hope of living in the world I want to see, that was never the point. Our only job is to set the stage for those to come, and hopefully prepare them to carry the torch, Hitler knew that and preached it endlessly. Victory isn't guaranteed, there will be setbacks if we're not vigilant, but doing what Robert did on a large scale will only lead to a total loss scenario. We're trying to play the long game here and you impatient chucklefucks want to live in a NatSoc paradise now so badly that you're willing to fuck over any chance we have to make a lasting impact and in the process our entire race. Did it never occur to you that an all or nothing play is exactly what the jews want us to do? To use your words >the kikes will put forward false decoys to trick the goyim, this is one of them.

>>181959
>Trump knows better than to let the Left use this as an excuse for censorship
remember my posts when he starts Censoring People.
>1%
the number is larger than that fren.
>How
A Grand struggle,a Kampf if you will.

>>181962
What percent do you think support "National Socialism" in the US?

>>181963
10% probably higher.

>>181963
More now than there were in the 1940s, at least.

>>181965
>>181964
Do you think that you could start a Civil War today in the name of destroying the Jews and win it?

>>181966
Absolutely not, they still have too much of a stranglehold, not in my country definitely. You fags stand a better chance, but it'd be a tough slog with a low chance of success due to current geopolitics, our best bet is to continue prying the jew's grubby little fingers off of the world one by one rather than stabbing him outright.

>>181968
Yeah, he didn't do much except kill old people, and probably get extra protection for the (((chosen))).

>>181935
>>181937
>>181927
>>181919
Electing Trump was objectively the best thing we could have done given the available options, and while he is not redpilled on Israel he's still done the country a lot of good and I think will continue to do good if he stays in office and gets another term. Conversely, if he is removed or fails to win reelection, you can pretty much assume that everything is going to slide right back into place the way it was, so that alone is reason enough to support him even if he is far from perfect. Most of the Republican party is made up of career politicians who only care about maintaining their power and influence; their "principles" go whatever way the wind is blowing, so we need to keep it blowing in our direction.

Trump is literally the furthest right you can expect this country to go right now. You have to remember the largest conservative voting bloc right now are boomers, and they grew up saturated by post WWII propaganda about muh Nahtsees. It's not worth it to go against Israel or Jews directly at this point. Getting Trump elected is not and never was the endgame; the goal is to keep pushing the country further and further right in increments that are small enough for people to accept, the same way the left did. Socialism, multiculturalism and globalism didn't happen overnight.

You don't win the long game by overthrowing the system through violence, you win by forming coalitions and gaining popular support. From that perspective it makes much more sense to continue the populist takeover of the Republican party and take advantage of its name brand recognition and existing infrastructure, rather than trying to uproot everything and build a new country from scratch. Slowly push out the old-guard moderates and "movement" conservatives and replace them with better candidates, meanwhile continue the gradual redpilling of the masses (particularly younger voters) via the internet.

I understand the concerns about Trump and the Republican party, but understand that if he goes, it just means things will go back to the way they were. Democrats are mostly crooks and the ones with actual principles are even worse. The country is literally doomed if they ever get any serious power again. Without Trump Republicans will just go back to being the cucked outparty, running lukewarm Bush-style dipshits and pretending to stand up to the left. Like him or not, Trump is literally all we have right now.

>>181919
>Stop being conservative liberals
Good, lets see what your alter...
>Read siege
Dropped. Monarchy is the way to go.

>>181927
>white paradise through a dying antique form of liberalism
Wanting to establish paradise is the problem, life is chaotic, utopias are stagnate. A utopia can only exist in death, while life will always have suffering. Ironically even Hitler knew this, which is why he like Nietzsche so much. Read shit that isn't brainlet talking points the book.

>>182009
This guy gets it.

>>182009
Fully agree

I can unironically see myself becoming a political theorists in my lifetime. And when this fateful day comes and the SWAT cops don't put me down I will blame it all on @Atlas

>>182009
>Like him or not, Trump is literally all we have right now.
I agree about that. As you say "right now".
However tomorrow is coming fast and he is turning in a heavy liability to Whites.
Trump have betrayed his White nationalist base many times, to name some examples and the list is growing:
- Bump stock banning.
- Disallowing and condemning White activists at Charlottesville
- Deporting a White elderly because he was guard at a work camp more than 70 years ago.
- Now he is expressing his desire to bring the death penalty to anyone killing jews, the same shit than the Soviet Union.

He is not our guy and supporting him in the near future is doubtful; to meme him out of office may be a realistic option, meaning switching to plan B ---> accelerationism.

>>182018
What's with you silly M*narchy fags?
It's not like you're going to rebuild anything resembling an actual monarchy that 'does' things, or anything like say, with competing lords and nobles forming the spine of direction and leadership in the country. Globalisation will always fuck your slut ass up.

>>182060
Accelerationism is just a meme.

>>182067
I disagree.
Trump won because accelerationism.

>>182068
How?

>>182073
An answer to your question requires that you dig in the reasons why Trump was voted overwhelmingly by Whites.
Consider it home work.

>>182060
>>182068
Accelerationism has to be controlled. The Left has to do crazy things that get them condemned but won't give them enough power to just silence us outright, as they've done in Canada or the UK.

If we get shoah'd now, relatively few people will care or speak out for us. That has to change and it's up to us.

Also, if a civil war were to break out it's better that our side isn't directly responsible as having at least part of the military on our side is crucial.

>>182076
That's not how this works, Anon.

>>182060
Why is condemning killing 97 year olds at a religious cheremony a “betrayal”? Killing 10+ old people (none of whom were bankers, Democrat politicians, journalists, Marxist academics, or big tech employees) ought to be worth the Death Penalty in *any* society

Furthermore, you are *not* going to win by losing. Britian is a dystopian hellhole where speaking out against Muslims results in jail sentences, and the London police force hires another 200 people to teach police officers tolerance and diversity in a year murders are up by 44%. In Germany, SWAT can bust down your doors for posts on Facebook. These nations are not at all close to any sort of race war. Only in the United States are whites fighting back. Sitting on your ass and complaining about Trump doesn’t help anything, it makes it worse.

>>182073
>>182079
Is this jewish dialectic?
If you know how it works, then why ask for an explanation?
Make your mind.

>>182082
The difference is that America still have a chance because is armed.

>>182083
No, Anon, telling someone to do "home work" after they ask for an explanation isn't how a discussion works.

>>182084
>>182084
Having arms is not good enough. You have to be willing to use them to the right ends. The people of Germany and Britian have the power to vote for right wing parties and yet they don’t. Merkel’s party wins a plurality if the vote while the Greens get more votes than AfD, which struggles to get 1/7 of the vote. Nowhere in the West are we ready for a civil war. Yet. We must hold back the left long enough for Americans to recognize the left for what it is.

Imagine if Trump had not won. Hilary would be importing aliens and the media would be making being white the new original sin, while Americans would just sit and take it the same as in Europe. But because Trump won, the left has dropped its disguise, and is making its intentions plain for all to see. Keep winning a few more elections, and maybe the Left will be the ones to start the civil war. But lose elections, and the Left will pretend to be benign as they cement their power and begin to “boil the frog,” slowly and permanently destroying the West

>>182087
Point taken.

>>182061
Power naturally consolidates within the hands of an individual. Hierarchies are natural and good. Even today the Presidencies of the world are becoming Imperial. Its our destiny to return to order from chaos, and when it happens eventually the power will again return to heredity.

>>182087
Again, you make very good arguments but jews are free to name Whites at will however Whites are gagged to name the jew. It is an impossible situation.
Meantime kikes are moving fast. Would Trump cuck again?

>>182098
All part of exposing the Left. A CNN reporter also said that Trump’s baseball tweet was about “white nationalism.” Baseball. When everything a person to the right of Marx does is “white nationalism,” then people on the right will have no incentive to not be actual White Nationalists, and people on the right will not care any longer if some people are White Nationalists. Donald Trump’s very existence has forced the left to vastly overplay their hand, and as they cry wolf they will lose all power to contain white nationalists.

And now, about Trump “cucking.” First off, Bowers is a complete dipshit. The people he killed were all over the age of 54 and one as old as 97. They had all been attending a religious ritual. Now, Jews in the United States are a relatively liberal group, voting democrat in about the same proportion as Hispanics. And obviously the Leftist elite are disportionstely Jewish, and Jews are over represented in Marxist academia, the Courts (3 of 4 leftists on the Supreme Court are Jewish), and Democrats in Congress. But these “Jews” are Atheists. They renounce the Jewish religion the same as they have contempt for all tradition. They are not the kind of people to ever step foot in a synagogue past age 12. Religious Jews, or at least Orthodox Jews, vote Republican about 66% of the time, a proportion the same as the non-Hispanic white population. Further, these people were very old, a demographic that tends to be more conservative. Add to that further the fact that the Synagogue’s rabbi said that “Trump is my president and is welcome here” - a statement the Left has criticized him for - I’m pretty sure that more than half of the people Bowers killed were Trump voters who were completely harmless and well past child baring age. Even if you think these ancient Trump voters were actually a threat to the white race, I think you have to admit that they are much less culpable in the Neo-Marxist plot to marginalize the White race than the Atheists in academia, the Courts, media, and congress. If you honestly believe that murdering 10 civilians is a good political move, then please, target Leftist college professors in universities, or Google employees. They are a much bigger threat than the 97 year old Trump voters.

Second, Bowers, the dipshit, had to do all of this before Midterms. Of course Trump has to disavow all political terrorists. The theme that he was trying to push for Republicans to win the midterms was “Jobs not mobs.” A right winger killing 10 random civilians as they tried to practice their religion kind of discredits the idea that Republicans are the civil and orderly party. He HAS to put as much distance between himself and Bowers as possible.

Trump calling for Bowers to get the death penalty is actually Trump using the event to try to push a right wing policy. Trump made that statement in Illinois. Illinios is a state where the Death Penalty was recently abolished under a cuck Republican Governor. The reintroduction of the death penalty is a local political issue that the Righf is trying to push in Illinois, and thus is relevant to the Gubernatorial battle in that state. Besides this, abolition of the Death Penalty is a general Leftist position, so Donald Trump is trying to use the tragedy to advance a right wing policy. Also Bowers deserves the death penalty for murdering 11 old people during a religious ceremony.
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>>182121
>Also Bowers deserves the death penalty for murdering 11 old people during a religious ceremony.
I like almost everything you said except to deny Bowers his right to defend Whites.
Jews can have the law but Whites have the Right. Which has precedence is in the eye of the beholder.

>>182098
seriously i dont believe how dumb you are


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>>182060
>Deporting a White elderly because he was guard at a work camp more than 70 years ago
I don't agree with this move either, but it's clearly a political strategy. It gives him ammunition to use in more important immigration battles. The most typical leftist attack is to call him a racist and a Nazi, and this gives him leverage against both attacks. Pretty textbook political move. Plus the guy had technically been deported already for lying on his Visa application, it was just a matter of actually removing him.

>Bump stock banning
Again, an extremely minor concession with negligible consequences that gives him leverage in more important fights. Even the NRA didn't fight the bump stock ban.

>Disallowing and condemning White activists at Charlottesville
First of all, he was shit on by the left for condemning both sides equally, which was the appropriate response. The left's expectation was for the President to condemn the white supremacists only and leave the poor, brave Antifa demonstrators alone. Any other President would have capitulated; Trump stood up to them and told Antifa to fuck off, which is the important thing. Trump's willingness to condemn the "peaceful" left wing demonstrators and put them into the same category as le ebul Nohtsees did more to help us in the long run than that idiotic "Unite the Right" demonstration did in the first place. Literally what was the point of that? A bunch of guys standing around waving torches and chanting slogans; what was accomplished? Nothing. It was bad optics without any tangible gain; Trump made the right move.

>Now he is expressing his desire to bring the death penalty to anyone killing jews, the same shit than the Soviet Union
Again, the fallout from this synagogue shooting is less an example of Trump being a Zionist puppet and more an example of people on the Right acting on impulse and fucking the greater cause over in the process. The whole act was pointless and there's no rational response to it other than condemning it. This guy basically forced Trump to disavow anti-semitism; even if Trump was a rabid anti-semite (protip: he isn't and has never pretended to be) he would still have to condemn this act and say something nice about Jews or else kiss most of his support base goodbye. Personally I'm far less outraged by Trump's response than I am that this fucking idiot would even be dumb enough to put him in this position in the first place. Literally what do you expect Trump to do, make a speech right before the midterm elections saying "I'm Donald Trump and I enthusiastically support the killing of Jews?" Furthermore, I agree with points already made in this thread that the act itself was unacceptable regardless of what the motivation was or the fact that he was killing Jews. It was an act of cold blooded murder and it accomplished absolutely nothing, plain and simple, and from a tactical perspective it served no purpose. If you're upset that Trump is now making "oy vey remember the six gorillion" speeches, remember that if that fucking dumbass hadn't shot up a synagogue in the first place we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

>Trump have betrayed his White nationalist base many times
False. Trump's base is not White nationalists, Trump's base is a coalition of various conservative constituencies which includes some White nationalists. Probably his biggest constituency, as I mentioned before, is boomer conservatives, who unfortunately tend to be very pro-Israel. He didn't "betray" White nationalists because he never ran on a platform of White nationalism in the first place. Anyone who actually paid attention during the campaign could tell you that Trump never presented himself as an anti-Israel candidate or a White nationalist candidate; he ran mostly on a platform of immigration reform, economic deregulation and trade protectionism, which White nationalists supported because they're good for Whites. They're good policies for any nation of any race. The whole "Trump is a White nationalist" meme is pretty much a delusion of the left.

>He is not our guy and supporting him in the near future is doubtful; to meme him out of office may be a realistic option, meaning switching to plan B -→ accelerationism
This kind of logic is utterly pic related. Stop masturbating to civil war fantasies and learn to politics. As I've said before, you don't build a successful nation through brute force, you build it by forming a strong coalition and winning politically, both of which Trump happens to be exceptionally good at. What is ultimately going to be decided in the next couple of years is whether or not "Trumpism" is successful; that is to say whether or not a Republican who bucks the established order and promotes hard right (not far right) policies can win a mainstream election. If it's successful, it moves the Overton window to the right and leaves an opening for further right candidates to take up the mantle in the future. If it dies, the previous trajectory resumes and we in all likelihood end up some blacked socialist shithole country with worthless currency and no jobs, governed by a bunch of PC speech police and corporate tech oligarchs. If Trump fails and we end up like that anyway then violent revolution may be the only option, but there's literally no point in sabotaging ourselves just to force a ground fight. If there is going to be a civil war, it's much better to try and provoke the left to strike the first blow anyway.

My advice to you would be to forget about Siege and start reading Machiavelli, Sun Tzu, and How to Win Friends and Influence People.

>>182125
Those jews that he murdered were not a threat for anyone, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>182198
>were not a threat for anyone
Think again >>181671 →
It is telling that you and some others in this thread have called these beings "people", "victims", "elders", "religious attenders", and "Trump voters".
I want to believe the brainwashing already made a deep dent in your mind, and you are not expressing deceptive facts.
Jews are satanic termites and along history have been expelled and persecuted for good reason.
Get this inside your head: There are no good jews.

>>182206
And here is a lesson of life for all the anons demonizing Bowers and siding with muh optics.
- Seeing The Forest by Dr. William Luther Pierce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IhsJnGy6Ec

>>182210
>>182206
If you honestly think that killing 11 very old people past child bearing age who probably voted for trump and definitely were not bankers, college professors, or reporters, just two weeks before midterms was a great political move, then I don’t think I will ever talk you out of that. I just want you to know that Diane Feinstein, Mark Zuckerberg, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg are all very much alive and rubbing their hands together, speaking of what a good goyim you and Bowsers are for playing into their scheme of discrediting the Right and retaking power.
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>>182206
>>182210
>everyone tries to give you advice and explain things to you
>you keep missing the point and reiterating the same autistic points over and over
I officially dub you this board's Nigel of Politics.

>>182211
>speaking of what a good goyim you and Bowsers are for playing into their scheme of discrediting the Right and retaking power.
I understand, you still believe that the system will let the plebs seize power just because the goyim went woke and out vote the opposition. Meaning that more a century of planning to erase us and to place a world government will be scrapped.
...Really?

>>182228
>you keep missing the point and reiterating the same autistic points over and over
I am not. I've got it from the very beginning.
The same than the above anon you are trying to play ball with the system.
Because I know is pointless, I center myself to praise a good White man who did the right thing.
And if something I must do, it is to shill for a pardon and quick release to honor him as is due.

You can still believe that his actions were wrong, or at least, with a wrong timing if you please; but nobody can deny he did it for us and our children.
I am adding a speech from Dr. Pierce about the choice "slaughter vs. restrain", and the script' screenshots is anybody is interested. By the way, Dr. Pierce advises restrain.
- Returning Fire - by Dr. William Luther Pierce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veKigX5cs08

>>182310
>>182310
I never said democracy could save us. In fact, I am quite certain it cannot and will not. But America is not yet ready. Shooting up snynagouges is not a productive or effective means to that end. It’s just propaganda for the opposing side.

You do not win by losing, and you do not win by being stupid.

>>182310
>>182311
>Shooting up snynagouges is not a productive or effective means to that end. It’s just propaganda for the opposing side.
>You do not win by losing, and you do not win by being stupid.
This. Symbolic victories are meaningless. Victories that are only symbolic to you and only serve to alienate people who might otherwise be your allies (even if you plan to discard or turn against them eventually) are even more meaningless. Killing non-combatants who pose no existential threat to you and are not valuable targets is not even a victory in the first place, it's just bad publicity with no upside. If he had assassinated Soros or something you'd have an argument. He'd probably still have to be thrown under the bus but at least his sacrifice would have meant something. This guy just did something incredibly stupid and pointless and in the end we're worse off for it; he doesn't deserve to be praised for it. We need to discourage this sort of thing amongst our own ranks because it serves no purpose and hurts us in the long run. Whether he's ourguy or not, Trump has done more to help us in practical terms than Bowers did.

For someone trying to meme everyone into reading a book about winning battles, you sure don't seem to understand tactics.

So, this thread pretty much boils down to what it always has, optics and principles. Both sides are wrong on this one.

Doing what is good in optics is in essence wrong, solely fighting out of pragmatism means you fight for nothing. Envisioning the culture war as a marketing scheme removes the soul from something deeply spiritual in which we fight to protect. Optics is nothing to yearn for.
Doing what is good out of principles is also bad in this instance, since the principles in which are claimed to be fraught over are demented. The principles in which our resident nat soc claims to fight for are as animistic and as much a product of modernity as the Jews who's death he celebrates.

If we wish to really win, then we must embrace traditional western principles, principles that are so intuitively right, that we do not have to second guess ourselves with optics. Be the knight in armor, there to protect what he loves and there is no way that this question will surface.

>>182322
>So, this thread pretty much boils down to what it always has, optics and principles.
Or jewish materialism vs Aryan spirituality.

Remember the words of wise beard man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW466xcM0Yk

Judaism is just a larger and longer-running version of Scientology.

>>182642
>Aryan spirituality
2 things.
1. What do you mean by Aryanism? I reject the notion of it as a race (Aryans moved all over the place so had no blood and soil let alone sole culture to become Aryan.) I also reject that fact that its a people (Indians were Aryans, so were portions of Slavs and middle eastern peoples, thus it cannot be a race.)
2. What do you mean by spirit? Since if you mean Faustian will to power then Aryans do not share this since it remains Faustian in nature. If there was a group known as Aryan then it does not share a spirit.

If by chance you mean German, then calling such a group Aryan is wrong, since the myth that the SS attempted to create for the German people failed due to their loss in the war.

>jewish materialism
Materialism is Anglo not Jewish. And at that you could say its not solely Anglo since the English created materialism due to historical forces beyond their control. Same goes with the Roman's who were materialists. In fact materialism and the Utilitarian mode of being is in itself a Faustian form of materialism created by Faustian. Jews are nothing more then an old people who are from an older culture who have never left their materialistic ways, thus accelerate per-existing forces, however they do not create it within a race or people.

Take for instance Jews in Russia, who through materialism exploited the Pols, and Russians in uslary, however this action of materialism is not reflected in Russian culture and is in fact rejected again and again. This is due to the Russian culture being young and so more spiritual then materialist while the Faustian, who is old and decadent greedily accepts the ways of an older civilization who befell similar processes.

tl;dr
Your writing talking points and not critically thinking about what your saying.

>>182642
>>182322
If "Aryan Spirituality" or "principles" is murdering harmless old people while Banks and technology companies continue to fuck us all over, then I think I will pass on those

>>182903
Agreed, killing is a defensive action about protecting what is good or fighting to find something deeper in life. This one was neither so was cowardly and demented.
>>182899
>40 IQ the post
Take your low quality shitposting back to 4cuck.

>>182891
>What do you mean by Aryanism?
The answer is straight forward: people of Indo European heritage. For practical purposes consider it White-ism.

>What do you mean by spirit?
The idea that the White race share metaphysical qualities which are distinctive from others. Their enumeration and classification may be subject of debate and to be broadly dependent of religious and philosophical points of view, and therefore subjective.

>Your writing talking points and not critically thinking about what your saying.
Well, getting involved in a little dispute about my non-eloquent writing style is not my intention. So, I concede this to you.

>>182903
>>182906
You both are stressing jüdenpresse ideas, ignoring the cause. NPCs perhaps?
Bowers killed rightfully, he is a White man and this "per se" would be enough for any White knowing about the kike's activities.

>>182947
yes,but his actions,will give them an excuse to oppress us more.

>>182947
I'd argue you are on an equal if not greater level of NPC than either of these other Anons. Your entire argument is summed up by >longnose bad without any understanding of the whys behind it, and you seem blind to any of the concerns or arguments of the other Anons.

>>182951
They will do it anyway.
Their goal is to genocide us and to enslave the remaining ones.
If I remember well it is written in the Talmud that when their Messiah comes, every jew will own 2800 slaves.

>>182947
>>182947
Are you telling me now that because Bowsers is white he has the right to kill whoever just by virtue of being white?

>>182952
Your concern and arguments are based on fear.
Fear causes paralysis and confusion.

>>182955
>he has the right to kill whoever
Not whoever, but enemies actively undermining the White race towards its extinction.

>>182957
And your arguments are based on short-sighted, untempered principles that will only cause us more harm than good in the long run. All Bowers has done is turn our people AGAINST us while the Jewish elite bunker down and laugh at our fuckups, planning their next move.

When we go after them, we need to do it RIGHT. We unite our race against the Jewish rats, smoke out the Jews in power, and hunt them down to the last man. It WILL take time, but if we don't do this right, we will fail, and we will all be doomed.

>>182959
And how do you expect us to do any of that?

>>182962
>And how do you expect us to do any of that?
/mlpol/ is a board of peace.

>>182962
The same way we were doing it before: we inform and redpill the populace, break the Jewish conditioning, perform charitable services and associate our name with doing good in the public's eye. It takes time, and I understand why it can frustrate some people, but our enemies are counting on us getting ahead of ourselves making a misstep, turning the people against us.

Then, and only then, once we are no longer such a small minority, once our race is largely in support of us and our efforts, once they have been shown the truth on what the Jews want done with us, do we turn on the Jewish menace, and hunt them down, like a pack of wolves bringing down an elk.

>>182963
Us,as white people. not/mlpol/
>>182964
that seems to work to an extent. but can we really reach the brainwashed normal fags?

>>182959
>>182968
I really don't see America ever developing a strong anti-semitism under any pretty much any circumstances. If Nationalists do take over and push back the Leftists, it will probably look more like Orban's Hungary. At it's most extreme, I can imagine something like Falangism in Spain during that country's civil war. But a strong anti-semitism will probably remain a small minority

>>182969
>But a strong anti-semitism will probably remain a small minority
Agreed.
The key is to control the media to redpill the youth from a very early age, as was done in Germany in the 30s.

>>182969
>>182970
this seems rather blackpilling to me.

>>182971
The founding fathers were pretty redpilled about it, there may still be hope.

>>182968
Perhaps those on the far left are lost to us, but the vast majority of normalfags are not beyond saving. I feel we have merely been approaching the situation from the wrong angle, when it comes to redpilling. We have been trying to redpill them as we would redpill ourselves, when it would be far more effective to select those redpills that would hurt their confidence in the (((system))) the most. Go for their weak points, so to speak.

>>182974
i hope you are right,anon.

>>182944
>White race share metaphysical qualities which are distinctive from others
Which European groups are white to you? Slavs? Or just Western Europeans? If so I'd think Western Europeans would in fact be a better term to use.

>>182947
War is a battle to protect and a battle to spiritual elevate yourself through slaying the dragon. Let us consider both situations of heroic war and consider if such a situation equates to either in justifying the incident.

>Just War, a war of defensive
War can be justified in terms of killing those who are in the process of attempting to kill you. The argument goes Jews were attempting to kill us by ethnic replacement and subversive actives and thus within Just War Doctrine taking the life of Jews is in itself an act of defense of our people. Two problems however arise.
1. Scale of justice
If we accept that this is correct then we must consider the action in which can be taken and still considered just. Keying my car gives me a casis beli, or the right of reciprocation, however the degree matters as well. Keying my car doesn't mean I get to burn your house, rape your wife and kill your family. Similarly Jews importing immigrants under such a model doesn't mean that because they are destroying the race means we are in a situation to kill them for their crimes.
2. The unit of analysis
If we accept that this is correct then we must consider the scale in which we consider their actors behavior. Is this a problem with all Jews? In which case we must collectively punish them, rather then individually. However if we consider this a problem with individual Jews then it would be un-just to punish non-actors within this framework. Regardless of which neither action was had, with individual actors being punished for a collective crime, which in itself is un-just due to the unequal distribution of justice.

>Dragon Slaying
Another way one can make war heroic is by slaying a much larger enemy in combat in a dragon slaying act. The Jews can be consider the dragon that needs to be slaying in this set of action however again we come into some problems with justice's distribution within the framework. This again boils down to the last two arguments on the unit of analysis and the scale of how to distribute the justice of the crime.

And note these arguments are all with your worldview taken into account, it could be that one disagrees entirely with these set assumptions. The casis beli was there for action against the Jew in your worldview, without a doubt. Even in my own a casis beli exists. However the actions were un-just regardless.
>inb4 siege esc-accelerationism
Siege is bad because it in essence throws principles aside for "tactical" gain. I think its fairly obvious that its tactics have failed time and time again. Justice cannot be ride of because its not institutional, the way we distribute justice in such a way that can be fair to the crimes of a people however is social rather then physical, and collective rather then individual. Ex: expoltion, boycott, or societal shun rather then killings.

That isn't to say I'm not a bit of a fan of accelerationism, moreover just that principles come before tactics.

>>182983
>if such a situation equates to either in justifying the incident
>unequal distribution of justice
>a casis beli exists. However the actions were un-just regardless.
Three phrases and one idea: justice.
And you deny again White's agency to deliver retribution.
Don't realize this is war and the ultimate goal is survival and the opponent' slaughter?
If nothing is done Whites will perish, but to hit back is wrong because of principles and optics. Seriously?
You kidding yourself, in a war principles are restricted to our own, not the enemy and allies.
Bickering with philosophical and ethical issues at this time is the equivalent to jewish dialectic.
Bowers have chosen the path of martyrdom and nothing less than praise and support is due.

>Justice cannot be ride of because its not institutional,
If you had read Siege you would understand that institutional justice means System's justice, therefore is a framework shielding the enemy and suppressing White's agency.

>>182983
By the way.
I would like to remind you about what apostle Goebbels said.

>>183080
You are assuming that the enemy is a homogeneous mass with no real distinctions, with all being the equivalent of armed combatants.

No one is arguing the point that the higher-ups richly deserve death. They are the ones steering money and directing policies toward our destruction. They are not the same as some old schlomos who likely attended synagogue as a matter of tradition and never really knew where their donations were going. Of course they do not belong in our society and should be expelled, but killing them is a breach of natural justice.

>martyrdom
If you cover yourself with fire ants and die are you a martyr? Or are you simply a fool?

You could make the argument that because the enemy lumps us all together without real distinction that we ought to do the same. However, this lack of principles is the enemy's downfall–for it is driving whites into our ranks–and would be ours as well were we to adopt it. Morality is the armor of spirituality and becoming monsters would rob us of any spiritual superiority which we might have, making victory meaningless if not impossible.

>>183083
Also keep in mind that concentration camps had to be set up to protect the jews after a bunch of retards broke shop windows. Had that not happened the holohoax would be even less tenable.

>>183088
no good jews

>>183091
>>183092
The point being that a bunch of folks from the nursing home weren't active against us and posed no real threat. It was a total waste of casualties on our side in terms of PR. If you're going to keep using war analogies at least learn some strategy.

Learn to make distinctions or you're just a NPC and useful tool for the enemy.

>>183095
have you seen hellstorm?

>>183096
No, but I want you to make an original argument without simply repeating what you saw in a form of media.

>>183097
>oy vey goyim dont tell me how evil all jews are
i dont have to, go watch hellstorm and you'll see how "innocent" those old kikes were.

>>183096
>>183099
I'll give it a watch, though I'm already aware of many of the atrocities against the German people.

Were all of those old kikes directly responsible? If so then the shooting could be justified. Were any directly responsible, and I don't mean "guilty 'cause they're jewish lol."

>>183095
>The point being that a bunch of folks from the nursing home weren't active against us and posed no real threat.
Read the thread before you type faggot >>182206

>>183100
they haven't spoke out against any of the atrocities that their tribe has committed. their silence makes them guilty, and most killed were alive back then,so they know what happend. also heres what their religion says about ALL goyim.

>>183101
So your argument is that if we open a screenshot much earlier in the thread and read the small text, we can see that the Synagogue supported an organization that supported refugees.

You know that both the Roman Catholic Church and Southern Baptist church actively support refugees, right?

>>183106
>You know that both the Roman Catholic Church and Southern Baptist church actively support refugees, right?
they are part of the problem as well, they have been subverted by jews.

>>183106
>You know that both the Roman Catholic Church and Southern Baptist church actively support refugees, right?
So, is it your logic?
Should Whites tolerate kikes because others do?
You sound like a kike. Wouldn't be you?

>>183109
>>183109
By your logic, it makes just as much sense to shoot up a Catholic Church as that synagogue, as both support refugee resettlement

>>183113
Nope.
You are saying that my arguments imply that Catholic Whites are valid targets the same as jews because of their support of "invaders" (not refugees), which is plain ridiculous.
Sorry kike, try again.

>>183116
>>183116
So you admit that supporting invading refugees doesn’t make a group a valid target. So tell me now how that group was a valid target. I already read your screenshots.

>>183117
>I already read your screenshots.
Then to go further is pointless.
By the way, how is the weather in Haifa?

>>183121
You mean to tell me that you can't communicate on your own without reposting the same screenshot over and over again?

>>183113
It does by this logic. If donating money to bring in refugees warrants death, as Bowers did, then all members or donors of groups that do so, no matter how insignificant or knowledgable about complicity, should be killed. That's a lot of bodies.

>>183103
>silence is guilt
So far as I know they were never high-ranking members of the Nation of Israel and were not aware of the actions or circumstances of their people. Unless if you can show actual evidence to the contrary, they have to be presumed innocent (I know, an innocent jew, how unreal).

I'm not sure who's playing devil's advocate here, but you have to have a firm basis for your arguments. You cannot say "read this" or "read that" when it doesn't directly pertain to those we're talking about.

>>183123
NPCs exist in every ideological front, even ours. Expect him to call us kike-lovers soon for thinking collective guilt doesn't apply uniformly The purpose of a Chan is to draw out intellectual absurdities along with cogent material and hammer them until something worthwhile is left.

>>183138
>Expect him to call us kike-lovers soon
>soon
I say now.
One thing is to dig for truth, but a totally different thing is support heresy against Whites because of muh fairness.
Wrong time, wrong place.
Those playing with words just for a ephemeral intellectual pleasure, have Whites' blood in their hands.
It may sound over the top, but this poisonous kike narrative have consequences.

>>183157
So basically we should all go on shooting sprees and give the jews ammunition to further fuck over whites? Great plan, Anon, inspired. Absolutely amazing. There's no way this can backfire.

>>183157
How is pointing out that Bowers killed the wrong people "heresy against whites"?

>>183164
>>183166
Martyrdom is one of the highest sacrifices.
Respect is the least you can give.

>>183170
Go right ahead then, we're right behind you, or are you just playing with words for ephemeral intellectual pleasure?

>>183170
This guy shot and injured 4 (probably white) police officers. He is still alive and is being cared for by the state. How is that sacrifice?

>>183157
>heresy against Whites
What do you mean?

>>183080
>Don't realize this is war and the ultimate goal is survival and the opponent' slaughter?
No, that is not war, that is barbarism, to sink to such a level is to lose humanity. War is about reaffirming humanity through transcendence or through protection. Wars of modernity are hollow barbarism, to sink to the level of survival is to lose teh the forces of modernity, to which you call Jewish. You've already lost if you believe this concept.

>If nothing is done Whites will perish
What is better to perish honorable or to survive as an animal? I care nothing for optics, and everything for principles, and so do you. My principles are just higher, yours lower. The Faustian soul will parish just like all others before it, we need accept this to transcend and heroically mock our fate. Our duty isn't to stop the invertible and be cowardly optimists, but to resist it and strive for the heroic.

>understand that institutional justice means System's justice
Did you even read what I wrote? Justice is not, NOT, institutional. Justice is not of the system it is not a thing of the fact world but of the divine world. It transcends both the rational and the fact so it cannot be of a system since it is beyond that.
>>183083
I do not defend in this case, in this case I slay the dragon. I attack the argument of evil, that justice is not real, that man must sub-come to his lower instinct, that we must engage in total war. Jews are a problem, without a doubt, but as a better man then every national socialist once said, "A country has the Jews it deserves. Just as mosquitoes can thrive and settle only in swamps, likewise the former can only thrive in the swamps of our sins."

The answer to the Jews is the same to the answer to the sickness within the west, which sadly is impossible to reach. To re-discover our spirit the lost portion of the soul of the west, which was concerned for the transcendent such as justice, honor, and moderation. All things which you reject for animal like behavior.

They say there is no good Jew, I have yet to meet one good national socialist.

>>183195
Your whole approach is virtue signaling. You are reciting a mantra about higher ideals to induce compliance and civility.
Nothing wrong about its essence and applaud your eloquence, but it is misplaced in time.
Whites' dilemma requires to suppress any empathy and humanity to apply raw brute force. To reach the lowest animal behavior to get the job done.
Because in the end, nothing will be enough but total global RAHOWA.

>>183200
>You are reciting a mantra about higher ideals to induce compliance and civility.
Civility? I reject it. Honor is not civil, it is not a creation of modernity but something lost from it. What I reject in the modern world and revolt against however is deeper then what you do.
>To reach the lowest animal behavior to get the job done.
The job you wish to finish is the same as the Jews in my eyes, "Fascism is preoccupied by the clothing, National-Socialism by the body, whereas Legionarism is preoccupied by something much deeper: by the soul." I care for the soul you for the body, the body is shallow the soul deep. You may save the body but you damn the soul, I wish to save both but if the body must be sacrificed for the soul then so be it.

>>183201
>I care for the soul you for the body, the body is shallow the soul deep.
I agree, and you are welcome to join and enlight the bloody beasts with your ideals once the job is done.
Meantime you have to realize that they are a drag.

>>183201
>You may save the body but you damn the soul, I wish to save both but if the body must be sacrificed for the soul then so be it.
By the way.
I appreciate your thought's deep and knowledge about the soul.
But here on earth the racial body is at stake.
Once a future for White children is secured, to save the soul will come to a forward plane.

>>183200
>nothing will be enough but total global RAHOWA
Sorry to break it to you but it is an impossible task, a castle in the air. There are fifteen million jews in the world, give or take, scattered about. Extermination is an impossible task, simply because before you achieve even national dominance many–particularly the important ones–will have gotten out of Dodge, so to speak. There will always be another place to hide and by their nature they are good at hiding. Ridding the world of the menace would mean searching every country top to bottom, a logistical and diplomatic nightmare. Your obsession would collapse your own country long before you could get even close to realizing your goals.

Expel them, of course, even send hits after the big villains to send a message, but don't be naive to think that worldwide purge is feasible. A people can be wiped out only if they let themselves or are unwilling to adapt to circumstances, and jews don't tend to be either.

Make the world realize again why they're hated, and they won't pose a threat for hundreds of years, by which time we'll be able to protect ourselves better.

>>183202
>I agree, and you are welcome to join and enlight the bloody beasts
Then you missunderstand, we are not going to win. We were born into an era of decay, we can accept this or be cowardly optimists. To think we can spirtually or bodily be pure again is to say that an old man can become young again, he cannot he will die soon. Similarly soon the west will die. We must resist this decay but understand it is inevitable. We must revolt against it with all our will but to archive the heroic not some cowards goal.

>>183205
>Sorry to break it to you but it is an impossible task, a castle in the air.
I wasn't referring to jews only, but all non Whites, anyone able to pollute still more the White blood. It is a very appealing and definitive solution.
And of course it is a hypothetical situation, but it is doable if the food chain supply is targeted.

>>183209
Well, then, that's a very sociopathic worldview. It takes the expression that non-white = sub-human or non-human, thereby justifying the slaughter of non-whites as nothing more than pest removal.

To say that I object to it is an understatement. Whiteness is something to be treasured by us as it is most human in our view, but from the perspective of other races we are also less than human as they have different standards of humanity. It is one thing that is actually subjective, as each group evolved for a specific environment and type of society and produces an archetype tailored for these.

Competition in some respect is inevitable but becomes less crucial as technology develops. Added resources and better transportation now makes it more worthwhile to trade with a foreign group rather than simply dominate them. And, of course, if you do not like them you can simply refrain from trade; if they collapse under their own weight they have only themselves to blame.

>>183210
Non Whites are to close to us, when they are not directly embedded with us, and their numbers are growing without end.
Drastic and definitely measures are a must, and the White Race's flaw called empathy has no place in the remedy to apply.
It is us or them, no choice; otherwise there will not be any more White Race.

>the absolute fucking state of this thread
I've long since giving up any attempt to make sense of these arguments. Now I'm just here to watch y'all sperg out and get things wrong.

>>183212
We need to cut off foreign aid and let the chips fall where they may. However, setting ourselves existentially against others is the worst thing we can do. "We must secure the existence of our race and a future for white children" is a perfectly understandable and commendable view. We desire that our people won't be destroyed. If we say "no non-whites can live" we go against this by turning every other side against us. There can be no equitable solution because we make it impossible; others want to preserve the existence of their race which we would stand against. We would be basically jews to them and they would be justified in wiping us out without compassion.

Your stance goes one of two ways. Either it is empty bluster and it can do nothing or it starts a conflict against every non-white. Considering how we haven't even decidedly preserved our people yet it can do nothing at best and destroy our cause at worst.

>>183213
This
>>183217
And this
Winning battles is irrelevant; winning the war is paramount

>>183170
>Martyrdom is one of the highest sacrifices.
Sandniggers literally make the same argument when they blow up cafes full of innocent people and drive trucks into random pedestrians. But they're still based antisemites, amirite?

Martyrdom is stupid. Self-sacrifice for a noble cause is one thing, but just throwing your life away in a pointless gesture, even worse throwing it away in a pointless gesture that actually harms your own cause, is just about the dumbest thing you could possibly do. White people need to learn to start valuing themselves, and learning how to solve their problems (including the Jewish problem) effectively, without being ruled by passions and emotions the way leftists are.

>>183240
Don't give Bowers the credit of being a "Martyr." That guy is still alive, after shooting at police officers, wounding one, and then shooting two SWAT team members afterwards. He was given medical care by police after he was captured and is currently being cared for by the state. This guy could have surrendered after shooting up the synagogue, but instead he tried to murder the police officers who responded.

https://identitydixie.com/2018/11/05/boat-shoe-nationalism/

Siegefags will shoot us in the foot. Social rejects need to shape up or ship out, or at least direct their autism to something productive like research. We need not appear respectable to society, but must provide an alternative to a decayed establishment with suaveness, education, and dignity. Normies should be attracted by role models for their race before they can be approached for more active roles.

>>183259
>after shooting at police officers, wounding one, and then shooting two SWAT team members afterwards.
Zogbots oppressing Whites to conform to ZOG's will.

And now I found that some Whites are beginning to defy the brainwashing by openly supporting and praising our martyr.
A video from 2 days ago:
- #TeamWhite: A NEW WHITE HERO: Robert Bowers: America’s No 1 Jew KILLER!!
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CJQqNhBE74TH/

>>185078
"Killing jews is always a good idea"
Yeah, those jews on their walkers are such integral team players, they must have brought in dozens of muds apiece.
He really struck at their leadership.

>zogbots
Yeah, as soon as they heard something was happening at the synagogue those police officer should have had a rain check and gone home. Maybe they could catch up on Season 8 of MLP.

>some whites are beginning to defy the brainwashing
woohoo, two guys on an obscure stream complimenting what Bowers did. That marks a societal shift!

In seriousness, though, the video was pretty good except for "Bowers is a hero" when he's demonstrably not. Yes, jews practice guilt by association against us and in retaliation we are justified to use the same against them. It is only beneficial to us when it actually serves in our interests. At least if he targeted top brass (see this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLWvu51Vk4E) he may have some appearance of a "freedom fighter," but he looks quite the opposite when he took aim at geriatics whose greatest crime was probably charging goys more money at wherever they worked.

The video does note that jews' greatest fears is that people with money, looks, talent, etc. may get drawn into redpilled audiences, but it doesn't mention how to do so or get around institutional blocks. Maybe that would be a better thing to emphasize than proving ourselves as violent extremists.

>>185078
Don't be fooled,bower is a glow in the dark cia nigger.
https://youtu.be/tpI0c1fKXW4

>>185094
>In seriousness, though, the video was pretty good
Indeed, it is a non stop deluge of redpills.

>>185094

All of the praise directed towards (((Bowers))) is coming from ShareBlue, CAP, and other kike puppets. Disregard individuals who make such statements with extreme suspicion.

>>186525
>Disregard individuals who make such statements with extreme suspicion.
They came from a poner who knows how to support White blood.
In any case it is you who is trying to defuse any action against the kikes.
The oxymoron about "optics" and the "wrong time" are obsolete.
Time is up, and today's problems don't accept any longer delay tactics and the going along bullshit.
I am not calling to violence at all, but I denounce shills like you who wants to neutralize Whites' agency.

>>186557
An excellent example of memetic shilling. He takes phrases that are commonly used in threads, and adopts the patterns of their usage in an ad-libbed fashion. Then he makes a series of statements using what is basically word spaghetti from a C-Grade (((Hollywood))) film about "evil Nazis".

This is done to provide source material to third parties observing, rather than for the purpose of misdirection. This one hasn't taken the time to understand and subvert the mentality present in the community. The emotional ineptness of such an individual could in some cases be chalked up to indoctrinated christcucked upbringing, though jewISH inbreeding is always a consideration.

>>185094
>>185114
>>186525
Just listen and learn. Chickenshits.

- Jan Lamprecht on Robert Bowers, Dylann Roof and White Victimhood
https://www.bitchute.com/video/O3utKGppbSMx/

>>187065
>We should accept that they knew they were going to die.
Of course. Islamic terrorists do the same. They might be "brave," but it doesn't mean they are intelligent or are acting in white interests.

>Dylann Roof was acting as a political assassin.
If he had stopped at the senator that could be an excuse. Shooting everyone else turns it into a massacre and an act of terror. He would have been called racist regardless but his motive could not be dismissed so quickly as pure evil. Imagine if Otoya Yamaguchi had, after stabbing his target, start attacking random people in the crowd. Would it be reasonable for people to honor his grave today?

>I don't have a problem with this because black South Africans across the world have been killing whites
Collective responsibility is stupid and you are stupid if you think it counts in justice.

>an armed wing of us would have done the same thing
Which is why I hope and pray that if an armed wing arises it will be disciplined enough to keep out such spergs.

>done nothing different from what blacks in Africa have done
So we should act like nogs because we are superior to them?

>racial enemies
Again with the monolithic distinction. If you want to stop massacres in South Africa then smuggle yourself there with some guns. Shooting the arguably least terrible kind of blacks (according to public perception at least, those who go to church) is not targeting the enemy. Shooting old jews with no discernible and significant links to enemy organizations is not targeting the enemy.

Individualism is stupid but these kinds of spergs make it look like a moral and reasonable choice in comparison. Disavow and disregard.

>>187161
You are a lost case.
I give up. I don't know how make you understand that a termite is a termite, there are not good or innocent termites.

>>187416
Would you go fumigate one of those termite mounds in the middle of the Sahel when there are termites in your support beams?

It shouldn't be this hard to explain how monolithic explanations and analogies are useless and ignorant. You've taken to the rhetoric too hard instead of finding an ounce of nuance.