Devs 16 Sep >Lavrov; RF has information where drones are assembled in Idlib, will be eliminating these underground workshops soon >Turkish journalist traveling from Damascus states he witnessed large military convoys headed northward >YPG sleeper cells claim killing 6 rebels in Afrin region >Putin and Erdogan will meet in Sochi on Monday to discuss the current Idlib situation >Peskov; Putin is meeting with security officials in Moscow today to discuss Idlib >RuAf concentrates strikes on ISIS in Al-Safa/Badiya Al-Sham for 72 hours straight >DeZ cs; SAA claims they nearly have split the ISIS pocket in half, allegedly ISIS fell back towards T-3Pumping Station >SDF state they captured Al-Sayyad district and several localitiesinside of it on the Fawqani front >Iran confirms they bombed Kurdish militant group conference in N Iraq last week >Houthis claim this afternoon that their troops bombed a UAE command center in western >Saudis continue to get BTFO on a daily basis, "no end in sight" researchers say Yemen.
>This is the accurate #map update after the MoU between Russia and Turkey to establish a 15 km buffer zone in which the Turkish military and Russian military police patrolling #Idlib #Syria #IdlibDawn #SAA https://twitter.com/Syrian_Uruk/status/1041753977745039360
>Breaking: several explosions heard in the coastal city of Lattakia, updates to follow.
>Update1: according to unconfirmed reports, the Syrian Air Defense Forces and Russian air defense systems in Hmiemiem airbase are engaging several unidentified aerial objects off the coast of Lattakia.
>>171970 From Sputnik >Unknown missiles fired by Israel attempted to hit a Syrian Army technical manufacturing facility in Latakia, according to some sources. One Syrian security source told Sputnik News that the missiles were repelled by the country's air defense system.
>>171995 Walmart is where the bottom of American society is displayed. During the day it's usually fine, but at night you get to see some real crazy stuff. Mexicans with their 10 children, blacks fighting over the last Welch's bottle, and old whites with Alzheimer's wandering aimlessly. Shart in mart is 99% just a meme, but it keeps going because it is believable enough.
>>171998 It takes all kinds to make up this world, and in America Walmart is where they shop. I used to work retail and it was hell. Some of these people are so retarded they will shit on the restroom floor because they think all the stalls are full. If you bring a good camera you could make a daily YouTube show based on that horrible place. There is just that much material to work with.
>>172048 >>172051 i mean literally no one else has said this and unless the CNN has a mole in the CIA i dont think info like this will be leaked so easily
>>172056 >>172051 There was a lost contact wil IL-20 transport plane. Supposedly in the same moment when a missile was fired form the french frigate....
There goes this war actually fucking ending within the next year or so. Just like Donbass or the Taliban. I wanted to ride the Victory Train one last time.
>those devs Guys, these mlpol threads last for half a year each, don't you think it's silly starting a thread with the updates for that day? Rather than "on 16th Sep the Russian did this, the Syrians took some hill etc," shouldn't be stuff like "the SAA captured Daraa province in July, E. Ghouta was captured in April etc", and then just give updates on the long-term situation in Idlib?
>>171959 Thanks Pingu. Real talk time: Do you guys think the Turks will put in any effort into defeating HTS, or is delaying the SAA offensive the goal in and of itself?
Also, is it ever possible that Russia will back up the TAF with air-support if / when they attack HTS? Russia and Turkey have pretty decent relations considering they back different sides, so it may happen.
>>172246 >Do you guys think the Turks will put in any effort into defeating HTS, id think that the turks would just kill off the the non TFSA rebels and help the rest to rebuild it self to counter the SAA
New Syria map. If Muttley or Ebin are here then feel free to correct any mistakes I've made. I could tell fairly precisely where to draw the DMZ when it passed close to a major town, but I eye-balled most of it.
>>172272 Okay, I see, Ebin and I left out the Ishtabraq post? (like most of the map, I originally copied them from him, haha). I'll update post locations for the next map.
>>172273 n..no its just that i dont see any clear marking for the observation points on your map just the demilitrazation zone idk if its just small sorry to be a nag
>>172564 the newfag Serb seems to think that Maghrebois is Ebin, which has now spiralled into an Ebin hate thread. /sg/ has been even shittier than ever lately.
>>172565 I see. > /sg/ has been even shittier than ever lately. Well that was bound to happen with the Idlib offensive delayed and nothing else going on.
>>172565 The levels of increasing retardation worldwide are surprising me with each passing minute. Also, what is going on in Tripoli? Idlib-kind of jihadists chimp-out or something different? >>https://twitter.com/Lyobserver/status/1042752363520516096 Maybe a chance for Haftar's LNA to enter and restore order?
>>171955 You wanna know how I know Doc is faggay? >"I'm not gay Ebin" Yes you are, you are OP and OP is always faggay xddddddddddddddd >mfw I waited over a month for Doc to bake so I could hit him with this shitpost >>172259 >>172267 >Lanka and Nathan are here now W-wew >>172565 >think that Maghrebois is Ebin FUCKING JEJ
>>172743 Turks. They are attacking the PKK gommunists in Iraq. I've sometimes wondered if I should colour the PKK differently than the other Iraqi Kurds... but nah. >>172788 I posted a few things in the previous thread. It's good to speak to you again Ebin-kun! >>172790 really? but why?
>>172800 Pretty good. I was sad when you left because I had to make the Daraa map without you (not because it was too much work but simply because it was fun working with someone else). I took up your role as the mapmaker on /pol/ on my own but then a guy named "Muttley" took on my old role of helping out. Meanwhile, us Australian anons have been playing regularly on steam together, spreading much autism in the chat(although that's slowed down in the past month) Apart from that, real life is going on as usual, I'm working about 4 days per week.
>>172803 >Muttley Tell me about him >I was sad when you left because I had to make the Daraa map without you Yeah, it was partly 4/sg/ got too shitty for me, and mostly I had other stuff going on IRL that kept me from being on the chans. >Have you ever considered returning to 4chan? >implying I left 4chan altogether I just don't touch the cesspit called /pol/ (4/sg/ included). Even 4chan mods don't touch /pol/. >Apart from that, real life is going on as usual, I'm working about 4 days per week. I work five 10hr days per week as a painter I didn't mention this because I make it a point to not reveal personal information - you understand - unless it's relevant to a conversation and even then.... It's been interesting.
It's really nice to be able to post here, get all the info I need in one thread, and not have to sift through 260 shitposts for 40 actually good posts. But I imagine that ratio's now 290:10.
>>172810 >Tell me about him You without the Spongebob posts. Probably the most knowledgeable anon when it comes to daily gains, but he said that he >doesn't know how to edit the pictures on paint So I get a lot of intel and corrections from from him, but he doesn't "make anything." >But I imagine that ratio's now 290:10 Let me put it this way; when Lanka spams anime, the quality of post shoots up dramatically. It's good when Gruber, Snus and Pingu are there, but that doesn't happen often.
>>172817 >You without the Spongebob posts. Probably the most knowledgeable anon when it comes to daily gains I like him already. >doesn't know how to edit the pictures on paint Wew. >Let me put it this way; when Lanka spams anime, the quality of post shoots up dramatically. Shite mfw >It's good when Gruber, Snus and Pingu are there, but that doesn't happen often. Should try to get Snus here. Gruber... well, is Gruber.
>>172822 But we need to inform Snus about this place without letting Jordani or any of the other "mutt / caveman spammers" know. We need to be very careful, Ebin.
>>172824 >Jordani or any of the other "mutt / caveman spammers" know. >We need to be very careful, Ebin. If they show up, mods will ban them on the spot. Unlike 4chan, the mods here at MLPOL actually care. Also, mention this place to other regulars worth their salt, like Master Baker. I imagine that 4/sg/ is getting so shitty, those regulars are gonna give this place serious consideration.
>>172827 You're being too flippant. I've learned to never rely on mods. It's good that they have more power here, but we should only rely on them as a contingency. I need to be more careful than you suggest; you don't know what forces you are playing with. I will try to invite them to private chats before letting them know. *starts playing mission impossible music
>>172830 Meh, we had a mutt come over here from 4/sg/ (the nu-baker) and we called the mods on him. >we should only rely on them as a contingency. They're bored and want to strike someone that's worthy of the banhammer. Fun fact, I told them to rangeban Jordan. But I get your point. >you don't know what forces you are playing with. NSA, CIA, Mossad, and their hordes of useful idiots.
Here is a map of where the Tiger went since the Tiger Forces was formed - it was formed right after the jihadis capped Idlib city; I distinctly remember seeing news about them fighting near Matsoumah.
>>172832 Okay, I won't worry too much about others finding out >>172865 >The tiger prowl Love it! >>172866 >>172877 Very nice! Amazing to see how far we've come. Although I'm still triggered by the fact that Aleppo remains as a minimap.
Here is a blast from the past, if you're interested, which shows the size of the various armed forces in different areas 6 months ago. It was probably highly inaccurate though - We did our best to get it close to the real numbers as possible... /:
>>172877 >>172866 >>172822 >>172800 >>172788 Check'em >>172878 >Aleppo minimap Add in Qamishli as well. >Here is a blast from the past, if you're interested, which shows the size of the various armed forces in different areas 6 months ago. It was probably highly inaccurate though - We did our best to get it close to the real numbers as possible… /: Very neat, though I wonder what the numbers look like now. Russia has more troops in Syria than the Coalition Wew
This map is what it would look like in Syria after ISIS pocket in Rif Dimashq is kill
>>172879 I heard some sources say over half of the rebels in Daraa joined the SAA, so I don't think Idlib's numbers would be too much higher than the map showed (E.Ghouta had already joined Idlib by then). That map is also very nice - at least some red in every governerate! Feels good.
>>172880 >I heard some sources say over half of the rebels in Daraa joined the SAA, so I don't think Idlib's numbers would be too much higher than the map showed (E.Ghouta had already joined Idlib by then). Yeah, but then there's redeployment to consider. >That map is also very nice - at least some red in every governerate! Feels good. Fun fact, the only governorate that had no red in it was Raqqa, and it was also the only governorate that came under full control of a single non-government faction: ISIS
>>172901 >Snus won't come here Shite >who is the "nu-baker"? A troll who tried taking over baking for 4/sg/. You can imagine how his breads went. Thankfully, I haven't seen him in a long time.
>>172788 You wanna know how I know Doc is faggay? >"I'm not gay Ebin" Yes you are, you are OP and OP is always faggay xddddddddddddddd >mfw I waited over a month for Doc to bake so I could hit him with this shitpost
>>172867 >ebin confirmed mexican illegal like i suggested a few months ago >he was making all these map to refine his map making skill for the day he'll need to cross the border illegaly after he'll get deported
Anyone got any updates on the SAR - Kurdish negotiations. I've heard that a new delegation went to Damascus after their election but haven't heard about it since.
>>172926 They are protesting for no reforms or new constitution till Assad is gone, so that means they want Syria to hopefully return to being interesting again and not simply move to slimey, closed door negotiating talks in Geneva. Be happy I'd say.
>>172939 Hans wants you to stop posting pony porn, Ebin. That seems to be a condition that many people have for joining the pony fuckers site. >When we have no gay porn but that doesn't make up for us having copious amounts of pony porn
>>172940 I think on average there are 3 german posters with others showing up from time to time. Edgy, me and this dumb fuck >>172940 mind you i deleted all my posts relevant to this place. You invited the cancer. I am still not convinced by this place anyways. Seems like a medium between the ultimate focused /sg/ chans and the cesspool on 4chin. Worst of both worlds rather than best.
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>>172974 >>172976 >It can treat anxiety, muscle spasms, and seizures. >Can cause paranoid or suicidal ideation and impair memory, judgment, and coordination. Combining with other substances, particularly alcohol, can slow breathing and possibly lead to death.
>>172977 usual side effects, nothing to worry if used in normal doses also never mix drugs and alcohol, this rule applies to every dosage dependent molecules
>>173064 It is quite interesting that throughout the war, the area marked "State of Aleppo" is the most problematic area of Syria. First the Rebels/AQ seize majority control, even taking full control of Aleppo city until an SAA uprising in the SW part of the city in 2012. Then ISIS takes over the majority of that area. Now, it's the Turks, and the Kurds.
>>173162 Yeah, but a decentralized Syria means it's far more likely for the US/Israel to plant a fifth column within Syria, especially in the northern regions. It's just a simple matter of taking over the local governments in the north, then working their way up to the higher governments (Aleppo City). Then secretly mobilizing a fighting force within the north. Finally, when the time is right, secede from Damascus, and create a pro-US/Israel statelet in the North, and reignite the Syrian Civil War with a blitz on al-Tanf to close Iran's land route to Syria.
>>172911 >A troll who tried taking over baking for 4/sg/. You can imagine how his breads went Now I know the one you are talking about, at first I thought you were mixing a shill up with me because when I announce new bread I post >NU
>>173243 yeah I know that, but recently I did a few threads that some thought were "shill editions" but then again that was recent and the one you mentioned is from several months back
The Afghan Talis have taken over Khamab district in Jawzjan and Daimirdad district of Maidan Wardak province[1][2]. While they have also taken control of Ab-i-Band district of Ghazni province[3]. Also they are currently threatening the provincial capital of Sar-i-Pol province[4] and in the east with Maymana in Faryab province from which they are reportedly only 12 km away[5].
Against IS-K they have cleared Wazir Tangi in Khogyani district of Nagarhar province[6]. While according to the Russians there has been increasing contact between IS-K and TIP in Afghanistan[7].
Also I told you 3 months ago >>154155 → when we were discussing the Eid ceasefire between Talis and the kabul government that due to the death of their leader TTP member might join in large numbers with the IS-K. Well it seems things are going in that direction[8][9][10].
And lastly another important thing and this will be of interest to you as well Ebin >>173243.
>>173296 >due to the death of their leader TTP member might join in large numbers with the IS-K this could get interesting, depending on their manpower.
I wonder if things will slow down soon over there due to winter coming. >>173298 I will try and check in Monday if I get the chance, work has been pretty fucking crazy. >Have a good weekend mate you too Pingu, thanks for the news >>173297 have a good weekend Doc
>>173300 np >>173301 There has been an increase in attacks recently. But I dont believe they have the manpower to carryout the type of operations like they did with Iraq and Syrian where took over territory considering IS-K are being hammered in Afghanistan by the Talis and unknown gunmen keep assassinating TTP commanders in Afghan territory[1][2] while those hiding in North Wazristan are being hunted down by the military[3]. As for Baluchistan there is a local group called Lashkar-e Jahngvi that has pledged loyalty to IS and has been carrying out attacks there. Though the law enforcement agencies are eliminating cells and capturing and killing insurgents but there rumor going that the military is planning a far more comprehensive operation to clear these insurgent cells. But its going to take time and as I said there are going to be alot more attacks.
>>173313 >unknown gunmen yeah about that, ikeep noticing these mysterious deaths. who in your opinion is the main force behind such assassinations? US? Chinks? i doubt the russian would commit so much in a theater where they have no border connection
>>173314 >US Possible but they rely more on UAV strikes and large operations. Plus their resources are being diverted towards keeping the Taliban at bay. > Chinks They wont ever involve themselves if they have others to do their dirty work. Also they have a working relationship with the Talis[1][1a] and wont ruin it by getting boots on the ground (as the Talis are against Foreign soldiers being deployed in Afghanistan). This leads to the argument about the PLA building a base in Badakashan specifically in the Wakhan corridor(that strip of Afghan territory connecting to China and separating Pakistan from Tajiskistan) which is false. The Chinese are building a base not for themselves but for the ANA[2] despite their understanding with the Taliban not to let any anti Chinese activity happen on their part. They are covering their ass on all fronts so as to monitor this location by having joint patrols with the Tajiks, Afghans and their forces near the area and constant monitoring.
This leaves the Afghan Talis, defecting members of TTP and if this nigga[3] is to believed the ISI. On whom the specifically the responsibility lie I cannot say with surety.
>At-least 10 #Iran Army & #IRGC personnel have lost their lives in a terrorist attack during Sacred Defense parade in #Ahvaz SW. #Iran. The terrorist attack is carried out by #SaudiArabia backed Arab Struggle Movement for the Liberation of Ahwaz (ASMLA) again. https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1043404295482290176 >video in link
>Total 20 more #Iran|ian Army Ground Force & #IRGC Ground Force officers are wounded in terrorist attack of ASMLA in #Ahvaz. Some of them in critical condition. Five of ASMLA terrorists who carried-out this attack are killed by security forces. https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1043405048594739200 >Video in link
>Here is official statement of Al-Ahwaz Arab Popular Democratic Front (APDF) regarding to its terrorist attack during Sacred Defense Week parade of #Iran Army & #IRGC in #Ahvaz SW. #Iran today. APDF is a branch of ASMLA. https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1043412527676313602
>>173372 >carried out by #SaudiArabia backed Arab Struggle Movement for the Liberation of Ahwaz (ASMLA) again. Soleimani is pissed, I can guarantee that...
>>173326 Can you tell me a bit more about the relation between Afghan Taliban and the TTP? Given the relation between the afghan talis and the Pakistan government, contrasted with that of the TTP and the Paki government it would make sense that the Afghan Talis don't want any TTP influence in their regions, and thus make the TTP look for other allies. Also, what is the role of Al-Qaeda in all of this? They are affiliated with the TTP but also still with the Afghans right?
>>172565 I fucking hate Magrebeibro and i fucking hate the flood of newfags we got /sg/s ego is keepin us from seening that we have fallen to /outerpol/ levels
i came here because /sg/ is basically dead and i want more Natmaps and Ebins maps also i know i am a newfag here so ill just mostly lurk and not post too much
>>173397 Yes, he blocked us both. The reason for this is that myself and Ebin tried to get more people to join this site, so I encouraged some anons on 4/sg/ to come here (Ebin let me know that the MODS would deal with any trolls that come here - which they do). But he still didn't like what I did, and I admit that it may have been a bad idea. Now he is hiding Australian flags.
>>173372 More information reported from the bbc. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-45611411 >Gunmen have opened fire on an Iranian military parade in the south-western city of Ahvaz, killing at least 24 people, including civilians, and injuring more than 50, state media say. >The attackers shot from a park near the parade and were wearing military uniforms, reports say. >An anti-government Arab group, Ahvaz National Resistance, and Islamic State (IS) have both claimed the attack. >The foreign minister has blamed "terrorists paid by a foreign regime". >Eight members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard and a journalist are among those killed, reports say. >Two of the gunmen were killed by security forces, while the other two were arrested, according to the local deputy governor, Ali Hosein Hoseinzadeh.
US-LED COALITION EVACUATES ISIS COMMANDERS FROM EUPHRATES VALLEY – REPORTS https://southfront.org/us-led-coalition-evacuates-isis-commanders-from-euphrates-valley-reports/ >On September 22, local sources familiar with the situation in the Euphrates Valley told the Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) that helicopters of the US-led coalition had evacuated several ISIS commanders from an area near the town of al-Marashidah in the southeastern Deir Ezzor countryside. According to the sources, the terrorists were taken to an unknown destination. >The pro-opposition Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) confirmed the SANA’s report claiming that the terrorists, who had been evacuated, were spies of the US-led coalition. >The US-led coalition and its proxies, mainly the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), are currently conducting a military operation to clear the ISIS-held pocket in the southeastern Deir Ezzor countryside. This explains why the coalition would evacuate its spies or even foreign fighters who may be relocated to other countries. Currently looking for more sources to confirm.
>>173296 >>Russia says Caspian convention won’t hinder US cargo transit to Afghanistan Interesting. But I see this as a potential lever to be used against the US/NATO after Pakistan closes the supply line. What they would do with this leverage is anyone's guess.
>>173427 Hey Nathan. I'm sorry for making fun of you like that, but you shouldn't have done that. Moving on: I've a favor to request of you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Taliban_insurgency_detailed_map <--- This map could use your services, especially since Pingu posts news (>>173296) relevant to the map, and the map itself is hardly ever updated.
>>173436 No, you are right. I just got emotional after a few big happenings and... I'm like the only one that edits that map, so I thought I could afford to be a bit editorial with my update comments. What you said was correct.
I'll look into it, but - oh God, this is embarrassing to admit - i don't really know how to edit those maps, WHICH REMINDS ME!! Many months ago, just when you left, a guy asked me to edit this map https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Syrian_Civil_War_map.svg and I told him that I would get a professional to do it (see pic) That man was meant to be YOU! but, well, you had left for greener pastures by then (This pony fuckers site).
So, in conclusion, if you could let me know how to edit them (it's not a simple paint edit like I'm used to) I'll work on the Afghan one and also try to do the Syria one too with your help.
>>173326 wouldn't it be a potential internal power struggles where a lower ranking fighter shoots his senior to take his seat (especially with the potential of TTP fighters given ranks and responsibilities lower than what they had before) also thanks for the insights
>>173442 >>173443 Also, we may have to make a South African map soon - the government said it will no longer confiscate white farms but I think this is bullshit and they will try it again next year. It will be good to have one finished if a civil war does break out there. I've suggested that the government be red, anti-white blacks will be an ISIS black, Zulus will be yellow and any white group blue.
>>173445 >government be red, anti-white blacks will be an ISIS black So the gov't will be black then :^) Make whites green and local forces blue instead.
>>173448 I was thinking that there could be some EFF militias who are even more extreme than the government. Green would work for us too, but I'm not sure. I'm just getting a feeling that blue is more of a white man's colour. You know what I mean? Green is a little too Islamic, it's kind of third-world... That's what my intuition is telling me. >>173450 I only mentioned it twice. Or are you referring to my Rhodesia-posting? Fair call if so, I used to spam that like crazy.
>>173451 Yeah, but the standard format is Red = Gov't and Green = (main) Rebels - whites in this instance. Try to change that, and you'll get collective autistic screeching from Wikipedia
>>173402 Mattis said during a press confrence (this week) that tehy are expecting high ranking ISIS leaders (al-bigdadhi) in the pocket, but he didnt want to continue talking about it. https://twitter.com/vvanwilgenburg/status/1039649616730501121 >>173418 >were spies of the US-led coalition. if they are evacuating their intel that was amidst ISIS ranks, it really should mean that they want to finish the pocket for good, FINALLY! >>173451 > You know what I mean? Green is a little too Islamic, D-do you think, Islamic groups will somehow creep into a South African Civil War? Impossible the nigs would give up christianity, right?
>>173463 Try going to uBlock dashboard/settings Filter list -> Purge all cache -> ... -> Update now But still strange (scary) you still see ads with both uBlock and uMatrix
>Russian Defense Ministry: The Israeli air force bears full responsibility for the tragedy of the plane Il 20. Israel violated agreement with Russia to prevent incidents in Syria
>Russian Ministry of Defense: The false information provided by the Israelis regarding the location of the attack did not allow the Russian plane to leave the area safely; The Israelis knew that the Syrian anti-aircraft systems would not recognize the Russian plane as a Russian plane and used it as "a human shield"
Russia is calling out Israel big time. Nice to see Vlad still has a backbone.
>>173807 Israels blatant provocation and usage of the Russian aircraft as shield should be condemned internationally, but we all know that won't happen.
>>173851 >watching ripped bodies with guts splitted as a part of warfare Sure, np. >some colorful erotic stuff of animated horses ocasionally dropped as plebdittors repelent AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! ????????
>>173949 I don't mind the horse pussy,but you should really understand all the autism that is behind the mlp fandom. For the average person a furry, a horsefucker and a brony are basically the same thing. Plus, bronies are fucking cancer man, mix cancer with nazis and you get something no one wants.
That's what makes this community special you could say, it's avant grade for the masses.
>>174574 I mean, what's the point now? Idlib is halted, but I guess it's something good for Iran as kikes won't be bombing their positions in Syria so often now.
>>173444 entirely possible but cannot be verified unless somebody admits it. Also np. >>174675 What version of S-300 are they handing over to the Syrians?
>>174865 I see. But this begs the question about the whole arresting the members of the 44th AA brigade? Why did they do that then come out with the info that IAF aircrafts were using IL-20 as a cover?
>>174874 Incredible boring. Nothing but as if he were doing a campaign rally more civilized at the UN. I hope when he chairs the Security Council meeting on Iran it will be more interesting.
>>174864 >RBK has the details of the S-300 transfer: >1) It will be the S-300 PMU-2 Favorit variant (max range against aircraft 200 km). >2) It looks like 2 battalions will be transferred. >3) Syrian servicemen have already trained on the systems.
>The S-300PMU-2 also has a stated max range against short and medium-range ballistic missiles of 40 km. This is the same model that was scheduled to be delivered to Syria in 2013 but was scrapped (that system was then delivered to Iran instead).
>>175552 >suwayda desert >not the epic final showdown with an ISIS pocket that raided and kidnapped hundreds of Druze, on the slopes of a fucking ancient volcano!
It's got all the makings of an epic story: Revenge, adventure, mystery, good vs. evil, another pocket being cleared. It's got everthing! You gotta know how to sell it, Hans!
>shitternet >>176175 I don't really pay attention to w*Stern politics. It's all "he said, she said, xhe said" bullshit. That said, it seems the left really doesn't want Kavanaugh in SCOTUS, and the right wants him in there. Even though the left and right here are all the same. That's all I can give you really, since as I said, I don't really pay attention to Western politics.
>>176184 >I don't really pay attention to Western politics isn't this shit 24/7 in your TV? i heard the left made rape allegations to keep him out (which isn't a bad thing considering how much of a top goy this guy is)
What the bloody is wrong with this war? WHY ARE THE FRONTLINES GETTING MORE GNARLY AS TIME PASSES? WHY CAN'T BOTH MAJOR FACTIONS SECURE THEIR SHIT FROM AQAP AND STC? tbqhwy, I actually love this border gore
>>176231 >AA and NDF fully control the of Shahba Area after most of YPG/SDF evacuated their fighters and join to Afrin resistance (Wrath of Olives) per multiply sources: twitter.com/JuanesIG/status/1045440137004548098 twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1045387273762689030 twitter.com/_paulo34/status/1045415227263717383
>>176190 Sorry for late answer, legit didn't see that post. >isn't this shit 24/7 in your TV? >implying I watch TV
>i heard the left made rape allegations to keep him out Yeah, and it's blowing up in their faces. > (which isn't a bad thing considering how much of a top goy this guy is) Refer back to: "Even though the left and right here are all the same."
>>176175 The Judicial Committee voted 11-10 to send the nomination Kavanaugh to the full senate for a vote. There have been made a gentlemen and woman agreement to allow FBI one week to investigate the rape claims before they vote in the senate. Trump has agreed to this and instructed the FBI to investigate. >“I’ve ordered the F.B.I. to conduct a supplemental investigation to update Judge Kavanaugh’s file,” Mr. Trump said in a statement. “As the Senate has requested, this update must be limited in scope and completed in less than one week.” Still the reputation of Kavanaugh have been destroyed by the left, one can only hope and pray that the FBI investigation will restore some of Kavanaughs reputation.
>>175276 sheer willpower no jokes i even barely use the snus anymore try to read about stoicism, special food privations (chocolate, candy, fast food) to reinforce the resistance to all cravings, fasting also helps addiction is purely psychological, your brain gets a "feel good" message when you smoke (the same way when you take a cup of coke you want another one) as long as you manage to repress the will (it's easier if you stop buying cigarettes) it will become easier and easier to do so pure mental work the same way martial artists manage to resist pain when exposed to physical punishment
>>176614 also physical exercise (push ups/sit ups whatever you can do at home) is a good way to mitigate the cravings since they also make the brain release the dopamine that gives you the "feels good" effect of the cigs
>>176618 btw if you want some info to help you quit read about "lung cells metaplasia" (tl:dr you lung are covered with cell that brush up the mucus secreted by the lungs to protect them from drying, problem is if they're exposed to smoke such cells mutate to become thicker (to better resist the burn of the smoke) and lose their ability to brush the mucus upward and out of the lungs so you end up having your lungs being filled with mucus and even more when you have the flu thus making it impossible to have oxygen intake in the most bottom part of your lung giving you the asphyxia feeling and the more severe the smoking the more filled your lungs will be. oh and forgot to mention, cancer can only develop from these mutated cells, not the regular ones)
>>176201 The Yemen Civil War is incredibly fascinating by seeing how well a group of militants can hold out against what is supposed to be the most advanced arabic country in the middle east. It is baffling that they still are having difficulties taking Al Hudaydah, even with the new offensive. Don't even get me started with the entire eastern part of the country.
>come home from work >want to shitpost after eating dinner to relax and digest >captcha says under maintance >forced to come to come here joking aside, hi pingu, long time no see Ebin will you come back at some point? I want to say again that I prefer Ebin maps, but I will stick to Nates if u don't post 'em urself
>‘49 pieces of hardware’: Syria gets S-300 missile system & more from Russia in wake of Il-20 downing
The S-300 air defense system and dozens of additional hardware pieces have been delivered to the Syrian military to boost security of Russian personnel there, Russian Defense Minister, Sergey Shoigu, told President Vladimir Putin.
“We have completed the delivery of the S-300 system,” Shoigu said Tuesday. The hardware supplied to Syria consisted of 49 pieces of military equipment, including radars, control vehicles and four launchers, he added.
A unified air defense control system in Syria will be completed by October 20, Shoigu told the Security Council. Russia will “prepare and train” the Syrian crews to operate the S-300 within three months.
MOSCOW, October 2. /TASS/. It will take three months to train Syrian specialists to use Russian S-300 air defense systems, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said on Tuesday at a Russian Security Council meeting chaired by President Vladimir Putin.
"We have finished personnel recruitment and have begun to train them," he said.
So far, Russia has supplied Syria with 49 equipment pieces as part of delivery of the S-300 air defense system, Shoigu said.
"In conformity with the presidential decision, we have begun to carry out a number of measures to reinforce Syria’s air defense systems in order to ensure better protection for our servicemen. We have completed the delivery of S-300 systems. It included 49 pieces of equipment, including radars, control vehicles and four launchers," he told a Russian Security Council meeting chaired by President Vladimir Putin.
According to the minister, the delivery was finished a day ago.
P.S. The minister lied, Antonovs are flying literally right now.
>#DeirEzzor : #SDF made small advances North of Baghuz Fawqani village & East of Safaqinah village. Clashes continue in Mozan village as #SDF try to reach water channel East of Susah village https://twitter.com/Suriyakmaps/status/1047217443654053888
2morrow's a demonstration in my city against immigration and other potential new laws for mroe polciy power, anyone interested in a /sg/ exclusive stream/photos?
Welp. Here are some unironic marx flags. I subscribe to only a small subset of their demands. I especially disagree that they don't want to deport to 'unsafe' countries. As those they deem unsafe include fucking maghre states where it'd be totally fine. Additionally they demand stop to enhage with 'dictators' this broad demand is retarded as it gives muh ebil Assad a validation but it will not stop engagement with saudi arabia. Theyvare just pawns of murica foreign policy like that. Stupid do gooders do more harm out of ignorance
That's it for me. I doubt anything intetesting happens. Champagne leftists(majority of people here) go to feel good about themselves and bavarian police is too good for the few unironic anarchos to do any damage
>>176977 >Racism is a little alternative ? Even though I think I know each word, the sentence doesn't make sense. What are they trying to say / protesting against?
>>177014 Ta. I just reverse engineered "Ein keine nachtmusik" but after googling it, turns out the word is "kleine." You learn something new every day, but then again I hope you are impressed that I even know a small amount of German, (I might know 1000 or so words) considering most English speakers can't be bothered - Such is the way of the eternal Anglo.
https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern/grossdemo-in-muenchen-herrmann-spricht-von-stimmungsmache,R5QcWe9 >Tatsächlich trugen Teilnehmer eine Fahne mit dem Logo der SDAJ, der sozialistischen deutschen Arbeiterjugend, die der bayerische Verfassungsschutz als linksextremistisch einstuft. Die SDAJ, so der Verfassungsschutz, sei eng mit der Deutschen Kommunistischen Partei (DKP) verbunden. >CSU politician claims extremists part of demo, article admits that SDAJ was part and that's bad because it has connections to DKP but the thing is DKP itself was fucking there, I got their flyer >>176981 I don't support the PAG, but the CSU guy is just factually correct and the article is playing dumb and playing it down, stupid paranoid right wingers are actually right when talking about media bias. It's all so tiresome
>>176977 I didn't know that when you asked if I was at the rally yesterday on 4/sg/ , you yourself were there. Why would you waste your time there, mate, surrounded by degeneracy? Btw was this part of the Pinakothek area Pro-Refugee demo or was that seperate?
>>177212 just curious, it took me longer than i wanted to get back, but overall it was not too much of a time waste, I did not walk with them, I only went to Odeonsplatz, dumped some pics here with some shitposting and went back home
>>177216 hard to believe, unless IS-K brought some manpad i really don't see anyone doing it with aa guns not saying it's impossible, but if they could do it so efficiently, they'd have done it far more often with the choppers that cause them so much problems
>>177218 taliban claimed it >>177217 extra dafür in die innenstadt während dem Oktoberfest an nem feiertag? du bist verrückt. how can you take any form of pleasure out of those rallies. They are as bad as when the right does a march. Degenerates acting as headless snakes strawmaning opposition or "free speech". I broke up a friendship with an old pal because he would stop trying to convince everyone to go to the regular pro-Eu rallies downtown
>>177219 yeah i know, but only IS-K could bring in some new stuff from the outside (unless russia or china has something to do with it, or even pakistan trying to get back at USA for cutting the gibs)
>>177219 >how can you take any form of pleasure out of those rallies I didn't, I posted that in real time here >>176984 >Ugh. I'm bored already. I see it as a >been there, done that kinda thing, off the bucket list. if some armchair posters were amused by that the better. I don't see much ahrm done, except for a few hours of my life, not a big deal in teh grand scheme of things...though it does kinda bug me that I count towards their bragging of how many attended
>>177218 Yeah I haven't seen IS-K claim the attack. Nor has there been any talk about the downing of the aircraft from the Talis aside from one person who responded that its 3 year old news(As seen in pic). So somebody fucked up at RT?
HTS making MAD GAINZ against Turkish backed forces in the DMZ! Noice! On a side note, what happened to the zone? I thought it was 15-20km either side of the frontline but now it seems to be only in previous rebel areas?
>Wikipedia fucked up again by moving a lot of dots and shite up 1px At least the changes are minimal this time. >>176814 >implying I'm going back to 4/sg/ after the literal shitshow it's become >>177315 SAA isn't withdrawing a single handgun from their side. It's a 20km DMZ entirely within the Rebel/AQ side of the frontlines. Take note that M5 from North Hama to Aleppo City is completely demilitarized like the Russians said it would. >>177396 Shitmap
>>177467 Fug. Well, if it's not too much to ask for, when you make shitmaps you think you can make a version that doesn't highlight gains? it looks better in my opinion
>>177468 The highlight is key to a better Shitmap. After all, the war is constantly changing, and seeing gainz highlighted on a map is a very nice feature for information.
>>177469 Yeah but can you make a version with our without the highlight? I guess it's 'cause I'm autistic but I think it looks better aesthetically. Also I do repost your maps elsewhere from time to time to explain the situation in Syria to outsiders and redpill them and having one less thing to have to explain on the map would be helpful
>>177471 Sorry for late reply. I'd rather not have to make three maps for each update instead of the two. It might look better, but the point of my Shitmaps is to convey as much information as possible in one map without messing up the finest details - the settlements, mountains, bases, etc - which means no S-400 location markers or DMZ. >having one less thing to have to explain It should be obvious that areas in a darker color of a specific faction are areas gained since last Shitmupdate. Leastways it is to me, is it really that difficult for people new to Shitmaps to figure it out? Maybe I should include Gainz Colors (pic related) in the Shitmaps.
>>177478 Fair enough I suppose, btw, do you have an update now? Idlibistan is doing a fair amount of infighting and there's been frontline changes, did wikipedia update yet?
>>177716 No update from Wikipedia, other than that small village near al-Susah being capped by the SDF. And yes, I did check the edit history of the source code. >>177732 Wat happen?
>>177459 But checking dubs is an important and necessary part of 4chn. If a dubs goes unchecked, are they even a dubs at all? >mfw I just got b& for opening up and interesting discussion about NPCs. It was a highly intellectual discussion that brought much joy and merriment to all involved. >mfw You can deny the holocaust and spam mutt memes, but don't you dare check dubs. So unjust.
>>177396 MUTTLY IS HERE!(pic related) >>177465 Ebin, this is the guy I was talking about before ^^ >>177460 I'll get on it in the next few days. Although I've never really done much work on the inter-rebel conflict in Idlib. That was always Ebin's work.
Also, I don't know how to upload multiple images, I just pressed browse 3 times and selected one each time but I'm not sure if it's saved old ones, I don't know if you have to do something else. If you see only one image for this post, then you know I have failed...
>>177827 Well, we didn't really get extra "types" but we thought of better ways to categorize them, based on their function rather than what they stand for.
There are questgivers: media personalities who give instructions like "resist Trump" or "vote for this guy".
There are the mobs: angry feminists and muslims
There are the filler NPCs, who wander around aimlessly to make areas look more populated. They are known to say things like "the traffic is very bad" or "I don't like the weather"
Then there are boss mobs, which are the jews. They have two forms, white and jew. Usually they claim to be white at first then if you defeat them, they change into their jew form and use the "remember the holocaust" attack. Often they have a few more forms as well, communist form, feminist form, but the attacks are all basically the same, where they accuse you of being some form of oppressor.
Finally, there are "ally" NPCs which interact in similar ways with players, but which we cannot attack and any occasionally give us quests, and they may help us complete them. They say the same thing each time we talk / press A on them. The mainstream conservatives / Trump supporters would fit in this category.
>>177866 Hello Lanka! The Kurds made some more gains on the Euphrates river area. and HTS made some small gains against Turkish-backed rebels in Idlib (in the DMZ, kek). Apart from that, not much...
>HTS made some small gains against Turkish-backed rebels in Idlib (in the DMZ, kek). hmm interesting i already know that the factions still are bitter from the last mini civil war now with a turk barrier do you think a even bigger war will start in idlib
>>177872 Hopefully an all-out war will break out between the two rebel alliances. I think there is a 25% chance that that will happen, a 70% chance that small battles will happen, and 5% chance that everything will cool down and there'll be no fighting between them.
>>177876 >kurds and SAA war closes in I don't think we will see that, unfortunately. Uncle Sam would nuke Damascus before they even allow the SAA to fight ISIS on the Eastern bank... The only plausible thing I can think of happening, in the East is America pulling out of Al-Tanf and the giving it up (Trump sometimes says we will do it but then changes his mind when Evanka starts crying and asks him to stay). If he follows through one time, Al Tanf will be ours. But Kurdistan is a reality for the foreseeable years.
>>177878 >mfw I arrived just as the battle of Aleppo was ending, in the dying days of "old /sg/" >mfw I didn't get to experience the joy and quality posting of that era.
>>177880 >end battle of Aleppo HAHA I REMEBER BULLYING YOU FOR BEING A Newfag sad, you missed palmyra and air bases and alot of really solid namefags its all good youve become a really good memeber of /sg/ one of the best id reckon
>>177882 Thank you Lank! I was there for the 2nd battle of Palymra but it was a forgone conclusion that we would win, the 1st was really exciting and I wish I was there! (I have been following the war since the start, just didn't know about 4chn)
>>177880 NPCs eh? >Muttley is here I see. >>177716 Nice to meet you lad. >>177871 You're welcome >>177880 >end of Battle of Aleppo >mfw I arrived as al-Bab was winding down At least I arrived with three years of observing the SCW under my belt.
>>177884 Dude, your shitposting got us through many rough patches. Also You're on 38 replies atm. Can we make another iteration of this meme please? (1st pic)
>>177887 Al bab. hmm, I'm pretty sure you were there when I arrived, are you sure you didn't arrive earlier? >nice to meet Muttly. Yes, in a way, but he'll critique all of your maps. It's good to get constructive criticism but I always fear the Muttley rebuke, and, in time you may too. >>177890 kek, but lanka is the one that needs to post it. >>177892 np, it's the truth, Jordani also shitposts, but when you did it, it was at least good.
>>177901 Thanka! It looks much better now. >>177903 Well, I mean my OLD record, besides, mlpol doesn't really count. >>177905 By the way, why are you drunk? Did you go to a p - party or something tonight?
>p - party or something tonight? no i am not some chad or something i am citing on the backyard garden with a calsberg 6pack and my phone being a wagecuck is pain
>>177910 I see. Just checking. Normies are not welcome here and you passed the test. Anyway, I might head off to bed now, noighty noight all >>177908 see you when I see you
>>177880 I remember despising /sg/ till battle of Aleppo because then I wanted someone to share the gainz with. But before hand I was under the impression it is a whiny, namefagging circle jerk of losers and therefore always avoided it (even when they thought they were bombing FSA/ISIS buildings). Maybe a lot of those era fags miss the time but to me it seemed excessively cringey. >also Nate is a newer fag than me LOL
>>178042 You should be able to phonepost, at least I've done it before. It is perhaps not always the best experience depending on browser. Sometimes it also helps using the "Last 50 posts" link (or replace .html with +50.html) as some phones and also browsers don't like too big threads.
>>178046 jsut tried and still no good. always gives some weird messgae about response to servers and that post was msot likely still submited (which obviously it wasn't). It's okay. I don't need tech support on this; jsut own't phonepost.
>>178130 That's a very good observation, Pingu. But I'm still unsure about the frequency of his cancerousness? Like, is he only occasionally cancer (but a quality poster for most of the time), or is he cancer for a more significant percentage of the time?
>>178056 Strange >testing from Android on Opera browser on shit Edge speed mibile net You could try clearing browser cache on your mobile if my post work (shows up)
>>178062 your filenames changed, there is no more "-pol", (are you adding this to remember which board did you get the pic because you're starting to have alzheimer as a boomer :^) ) so it is harder to recognize you
>>178144 not all of my filenames have "pol" in them tho... >are you adding this to remember which board did you get the pic it happens when I save pics on my Overchan app when phoneposting, it automatically adds "pol"
>>178133 >But I'm still unsure about the frequency of his cancerousness? Lanka is ultimate /comfy/. You also need others to appreciate the info you are gathering and sharing imo. Plus occasional quality sources posting is nothing uncommon to him. The idea of only ever posting sources and then dipping creates dead forums like 8/sg/
>>178259 No no no, Hans, you misunderstand me, kek. I like Lanka. Pingu thought it was funny because the words "lanka" and "cancer" were next to each other on the wordcloud. This observation brought much merriment to all (but it was just playful banter). I then noticed that that the word "often" was also next to those two words, so I made my post, inquiring about his "cancerousness frequency," giving Pingu the chance to screencap that word with the others (I basically tried to set him up for a joke - but he didn't reply - oh well, life goes on). It was all just banter, failed banter on my part, but banter nonetheless.
So Daesh counter-attacked Rojava during a sandstorm which negated the American air force and regained a lot of land. Hey Ebin, you got a shitmap to reflect this please?
>>178509 I guess? It doesn't look that different from the other one, but I can see the differenes somewhat. Damn, really puts things in perspective, they did not make many gains at all
>>178514 >I forgot to note Reason shitgif looks so clunky in transition is because I had to rebuild Shitmap STOP MOVING ICONS AROUND WIKIPEDIA Btw, I'm adding frontlines in Idlibstan proper. I think it looks nicer, but you guys decide if it stays or goes.
>>178524 OMG A world map! It's so beautiful! The next step will be to scale it the same as your Syria map and then just paste the Syria / Libya and Yemen maps over the top. It would be such a huge pic, but so epic! >>178514 I like the new borders! I'm still unsure about the DMZ and I'll hold off changing anything there until the 16th. >>178523 I like the fact that all three of us are now namefagging. It feels /comfy/ >>177914 Lanka, you need to start namefagging too.
Somehow, this is simultaneously the best and worst map ever made.
It was so big, it crashed my laptop when I was making it and now no website is letting me upload it simply because it contains 100 million pixels. Where is the justice?
>>178550 Rather than have a simple image, it may be better to have a dedicated site with a map program that allows one to zoom in. Think of Jewgle maps but open-source and showing ongoing conflicts.
>>178633 Saydabad is contested ANA forces have returened to the area and clashes are ongoing, Ab-i-Band district in Ghazni is also taken as well as Day Mirdad distirct in Maidan Wardak province
>>178654 Please provide sources so me or Nate can make changes on Wikipedia. They're very autistic about having sources. Meanwhile, have updated Afghan Shitmap. >mfw I made edits and took screencaps of the preview >mfw it shifted a lot of dots up 1px >mfw I have this to look forward to for every mupdate >>178656 No, I don't know him. Have you referred him here? >With Love Gay >and Squalor :^)
Here is a map that I just finished. It was inspired by Ebin's >>178524 but I zoomed into the Middle East area.
I tried to make it more simple (for example, I coloured countries according to whether they were Western / Eastern aligned or Islamist. Turkey could potentially be put in any of these categories, but I made them Islamist (rather than using a combination), because Islamism is their primary alignment - it's more simple and nicer to look at imho.
>>178716 >Georgia isn't pro-blue >I retract what I said earlier about Israel, it should be stable blue, and Palestine should be stable green >Egypt should be pro-blue stable
>>178716 >France is the only stable pro-blue country in Europe We must go all the way, with Serbia being neutral: They're nominally pro-East, but working on acceding to the EU
>Afghan Taliban officials: 'US agrees to discuss troops pullout' The United States has agreed to discuss the withdrawal of its troops from Afghanistan in a direct meeting with Taliban representatives in Qatar, officials from the armed group said.
In a preliminary meeting in Doha on Friday, Taliban representatives and US envoy Zalmay Khalilzad discussed the Taliban's conditions to end the 17-year war in Afghanistan, two top Taliban officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told Al Jazeera.
"Six US delegates arrived in Doha to have a meeting with our (Taliban) leaders [and] agreed to discuss all issues, including the pullout of foreign troops," one of the officials said.
"But, it was a preliminary meeting and all issues were discussed in general, not in detail," he added, saying more talks were expected to take place in the near future.
Last year, US President Donald Trump increased the number of US forces in the country as part of a new strategy against the Taliban. There are now about 14,000 US soldiers in the country. The Taliban has previously said the presence of foreign troops was the biggest obstacle to peace in Afghanistan.
In addition to the withdrawal of foreign troops from Afghanistan, the Taliban's conditions include the lifting of sanctions on its leaders, the release of their fighters imprisoned in Afghanistan, and the establishment of an official political office.
At the request of the US, a Taliban office was established in Doha in 2013 to facilitate peace talks but it was shut shortly after opening when it came under pressure over a flag hung outside the office, the same flag that was flown during the Taliban rule in Afghanistan.
Then Afghan President Hamid Karzai subsequently halted peace efforts, saying the office was presenting itself as an unofficial embassy for a government-in-exile.
The flag has since been taken down and the office has been empty with no official announcements about a possible reopening.
Talks with the Taliban have since been taking place elsewhere in Doha.
US officials in Kabul and Zalmay Khalilzad were not immediately available to comment on Saturday's gathering in the Qatari capital.
It was the second time that US officials met the group in Qatar. The first meeting took place in July, and included US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Alice Wells.
In recent months, Khalilzad, who was appointed as US Special Representative for Afghanistan Reconciliation in September, has met officials from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates in a bid to renew the long-stalled direct talks with the Taliban.
>'US puppets' The Taliban, Afghanistan's largest armed group which was toppled from power by a US-led invasion in 2001, has repeatedly turned down offers of talks with the Afghan government, calling them "US puppets", despite calls from Afghan President Ashraf Ghani to start negotiations.
Instead, they demanded to meet US officials for talks primarily on foreign troops withdrawal.
In July, the US announced it was ready for direct talks with the Taliban to seek negotiations and to "discuss the role of international forces".
Abdul Salam Zaeef, a former Taliban ambassador to Pakistan who is now based in Doha and in contact with the Taliban representatives, confirmed the US decision to discuss a pullout from Afghanistan.
He was not present at the meeting, but said the withdrawal of foreign troops "now only requires a timeline for implementation".
"As per my information, the US has reached an agreement with the Taliban to withdraw troops from Afghanistan but the US officials have not yet agreed on a date," he said.
"The US is not winning in Afghanistan. They are aware of that, which means they have to agree on the Taliban's conditions for ending the war in the country."
Some analysts, however, fear the withdrawal of foreign troops will not end the long-running conflict in Afghanistan.
In recent months, there has been a surge in violence across the country, with heavy clashes between the Taliban and Afghan security forces from the provinces of Badakhshan, Baghlan and Faryab in the north to the province of Farah in the west.
>>178747 >Power-sharing Faizullah Zaland, a political analyst based in Kabul, said long-term international support and a power-sharing agreement between the Taliban and the Afghan government is necessary to end the war.
"The US has tried all its methods, policies and strategies to limit the Afghan war, but instead the war has grown even more. The Taliban has got more land and more control in the country," he said.
The US strategy in 2017 of increasing troops in Afghanistan by raising the number of soldiers from 8,400 to about 14,000, has also "failed", he said
"The international community's long-term support is the only guarantee for Afghan peace, in addition to a power-sharing agreement with the Taliban."
In May, Farah city, one of the largest cities of Afghanistan, was on the verge of falling to the Taliban, which would have made it the second city, after Kunduz in 2015, to fall under the Taliban since the war began in 2001.
In an attempt to put an end fight, in February, Ghani offered recognition of the Taliban as a legitimate political group and involvement in a constitutional review that he said could bring the group to the negotiating table to end the 17-year war.
But the Taliban continued fighting as their demand to meet directly with US officials was ignored.
Last week, the Taliban issued a warning that its fighters would target government security forces to disrupt the October 20 parliamentary elections.
Zabihullah Mujahid, a spokesperson for the Taliban said, fighters will target "people who are trying to help in holding this process successfully by providing security".
He added that "no stone should be left unturned for the prevention and failure" of the election.
As of January 2018, the Afghan government only controls 56.3 percent of the country, according to a report by the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR) released in May.
The Taliban, meanwhile, holds 59 districts, while the remaining 119 - about 29.2 percent - are contested, meaning they are controlled by neither the Afghan government nor the armed group.
In a report last week, the United Nations Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) said at least 8,050 Afghan civilians were killed or wounded in the first nine months of 2018.
Half of them were killed in suicide attacks and bombings that might amount to war crimes, UNAMA said
"Civilian deaths have not been the main concern during these talks, but in reality, civilian casualties is the grimmest part of this war and the credit goes to all sides engaged in this conflict," Zaland, the political analyst told Al Jazeera.
>>178746 Thanks Pingu. Now I just need one for Saydabad, and we'd be golden. Btw, >>178701 do you think the Taliban control a small part of the Tajik border in Badakhshan? Like the strip from Ishkashim to halfway to Shighnan?
>do you think the Taliban control a small part of the Tajik border in Badakhshan? Like the strip from Ishkashim to halfway to Shighnan? You know what? Screw it, I'm doing this until I get info to the contrary. Also, noticed a fuckup in Faryab. Don't worry, those aren't massive ANA "gains", just a correction. Also, taking liberty by changing the frontlines in the north so that the Taliban "front" threatening Maymana is also contesting Sar-e-Pol while shrinking the "front" in Sheberghan province. >if only to make things simpler...
>do you think the Taliban control a small part of the Tajik border in Badakhshan? Like the strip from Ishkashim to halfway to Shighnan? I dont remember reading anything about that
*I have seen some news calling it Khushamond district
>A major military operation has begun to completely eliminate the Daesh from Tulul al-Safa and its surroundings. Several SAA units and allied forces are involved. https://twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1051418830533222401
>The Kurdish Asayish militia still does not allow the public transport to transport the students, so the students, some accompanied by their parents, walk to foot to their schools in the center of Al-Hasaka. https://twitter.com/Bosni94/status/1051432650471292928
TOMORROW is the day!!! How will mukhbarat provoke the Rebells to prove the deescelation ptoject isn't workking and we get that full on SAA offensive finally?
>>178701 > Have you referred him here Ill let Nate keep that job.
to al irani since i suppose legit lube is haram to sell, people improvise lube (usually people use cooking oils, pistachio oils is considered deluxe i was told) and since iran is a big pistachio exporter i found it funny to hear about it's unusual use of pistachios
>>178818 lol who told you that? it's bullshit I have never heard of pistachio oil in my life People mostly use olive oil or any lubricating thing(cooking oil) I use spit or olive oil >legit lube is haram to sell lol i don't think so, but i think only married couples buy these kind of things >>178820 No i'm still with russian proxy, but it shows netherland flag.
>>178825 No, i don't touch his dick I don't know about the west or other parts of world but in Iran fucking boys(not relationship or ...) is not a gay thing In school usually alpha and strong boys fuck girly and faggot boys. it's not a gay thing and it's not an embarrassment.
>>178827 >>178826 >I don't know about the west or other parts of world but in Iran fucking boys(not relationship or …) is not a gay thing isn't it also something shared with pakistan and afghanistan? >mfw the absolute state of these degenerates cultures
>>178833 Some areas are notorious for it such as south Punjab and Bannu in KPK. People look down upon such behavior but you hear stories of things like these happening in major cities too. >inb4 i did it too Yeah I dont delve into this shit mate.
>>178837 might see something in al zaharaa tomorrow but other than ISIS fucking up SDF in DeZ and a meeting in Istanbul to look forward to there is nothing much really going on.
>>178829 >not hearing about bacha bazi To be fair, just talking about it in Europe probably counts as a hate crime. Ask any Pakistani or Afghan about it and they'll admit it happens.
>I took a look over to the other place to get some more context >mfw the absolute fucking state... Although I got a neat map, so it wasn't a total loss
>the withdrawal of radical militants from the demilitarized zone before October 20 remains the priority of Russia and Turkey. >screencap I am confused now...
After considering what 4/sg/ and Ebin have to say, here are my responses.
>You assigned country x as neutral or didn't show some conflict that is happening somewhere I guess this just depends on how narrow you want to draw the neutral spectrum. In my original, I only coloured countries that where directly playing a role in supporting fighting somewhere (humanitarian or military) and did my best to discard most meme-contributions (like those from most European countries). In this updated pic, I've made the neutral spectrum far narrower than before, even countries that only slightly lean in one direction or the other have been coloured. It's subjective though. People may dislike the fact that Italy is still white, but you gotta draw the line somewhere, you know?
>That shouldn't be coloured that colour. It should be coloured this colour Well, once again, many of these are subjective. I agree with what you said about Israel and Crimea, in part, so instead of changing their colour, I changed the key to say "volatile" rather than "at war." I think this is a good comprimise. I also decided to make a purple colour for the nations that have good relations with America and Russia (Egypt is a good example) or love/hate relations with both (Iraq) - As long as they don't lean to far towards one side or the other.
>Include Transnistria, South Ossetia/Abkhazia and Nagorno-Karabakh Okay, I thought about adding them before but thought that those wars / countries weren't relevant enough. I'd never actually heard of Transnistria, but I added that too - hopefully I got the colours right.
The good thing to know is that it's easy to edit - all you have to do it copy into paint and use the fill colour tool. So if you disagree (and I'm sure you will), you can just make your own easily.
>>178899 This is different though, the tweet says that Andar and Ab Band districts in Ghazni fell, and has a pic of the main telecom tower in Andar with a Taliban flag on it. I don't see these two districts mentioned in the previous posts
W E FUCKING W All that it'll take to collapse the government at this point is if the Muslims start setting up checkpoints, raising flags, and killing off the police/local governments in a coordinated nationwide strike with a specific timetable. just like here in America >>178927 >>178928 What?
Alright, what is gonna be the thing to really either have process occur for the Idlib region. Either SAA offensive or serious de-escelation or deconfliction through some gay ass Geneva agreement or whatever? Russia seems to be way to content with idlib turning into the next TFSA jihadist gang area. Can Assad's side trigger something to force a response or what? >According to information we are receiving from our military, memorandum is being implemented & military are satisfied with way Turkish side is working." --Kremlin spox Dmitry Peskov
Russia and its stalemates everywhere is beyond frustrating.
>>179046 The important factor is the agreement that Russia made with Turkey whereby they need to remove all Jihadists from the DMZ before the 15th of this month (moved to the 20th). Turkey will obviously fail to get HTS to move by then (it's only few days away), so I'm hopeful that Assad / Russia can use that as a Casus belli to attack Idlib. It is the only way progress will be made, that I can think of. >pic related but with map showing advances past the DMZ.
>>179048 >Assad / Russia can use that as a Casus belli to attack Idlib.
How do you still have so much hope in Russia. I wouldn't call them cucked but rather realistic and treading lightly but to me it feels like they are cucking the SAA.
>>179051 I'm just saying that it's the only way that it could happen. Russia hasn't been too bad, desu. They've stuck by Syria at the UN and continued to bomb Aleppo and E. Ghouta with the West screeching at them. Still unlikely that anything will happen soon, but where there's a will, there's a way.
God bless HTS' stubbornness. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtNEDxwXats I'll be rooting for them in any rebel / rebel+Turkish infighting. >shamelessly sharing more of my shitty old oc
>>179052 If I remember correctly the Iranians weren't too excited about Idlib either. If Russia and Iranian militias say no to the assault it would not be easy for the SAA to advance given the amount of jihadis ready to die, who have had enough time to fortify their positions after all the diplomatic faggotry. Also, if they "break" the "de-escalation agreement", the Syrian gov will look bad internationally, although if the Saudis admit they cut up Kashoggi in their consulate it will certainly divert attention.
Worst case scenario would be HTS factions integrating into the NLF under a "moderate" name, and potentially assuming a leading role given their current status in the conflict. I would love to see Turkey forcefully disbanding HTS and arresting Julani, but as the SouthFront video suggests that would remove the Turks their "shock value" elements, plus it may cost Turkish lives. So more realistically, best case scenario seems to be inter-rebel conflict in which I can only hope both sides brutally annihilate each other.
Pingu, I would like your analysis of Operation Khandagh. Would you consider it majorly/moderately successful or not successful and why? Based on Operation Khandagh, what do you think next year will bring? Could the Taliban start taking provincial capitals next year, and actually holding them, and if so, which ones do you think will be the first to fall? Could we even see the Afghan gov't fall by 2020, or is that way too optimistic?
>>179341 https://twitter.com/FrudBezhan/status/1052909063246360576 >never ending manpower as his enemies constantly defect to his side lmaoing at afghan """""government""""" >be taliban >go kill your local governor singlehandedly >his bodyguards join you as they're impressed by your high T Chad levels
>>179342 this is why shit like home land is extra retarded. Truth is more based than (((hollywood))) fiction. Lets hope thse "wounded" us officials tunr to be dead US officials
I am appaled at how little people here care about the doings of our professional armies. French fucks I meet don't care about their soldiers beng in N.Syria or taking part in bombing SAA. Germans don't care about Afghanistan or arms sales to Saudis. 0 German parties say we should kick american forces out of germany. It's sad. >1.3k germans in Afghanistan… Taliban has to start killing some of them for a response to possibly awaken here.
>>179359 answer is simple no media coverage=nobody gives a fuck tomorrow all german soldier could be killed in afghanistan, no normie would bat an eye if the MSM doesn't report or reports little about it media control=public opinion control=population control
>Reports that elite commandos from #Iraq’s Counter Terrorism Service killed several senior Da’ish leaders during ops in Syrian regions of Hasakah + Albu Kamal this week. US commandos reportedly supported the raids https://twitter.com/IraqiSecurity/status/1052959294814064641
>>179411 wait how's the front in kandahar? are they planning an assault and this is preemptive "cutting the head of the snake" to catch them by surprise?
>>179412 >how's the front in kandahar? see map >>178757 >are they planning an assault and this is preemptive "cutting the head of the snake" to catch them by surprise? I dont know mate, perhaps they are and the killing of so many top officials does seem to indicate that but the US has been carrying out airstrikes in the area[1][2] and as you can see from the map the Taliban have alot of area to cover. According to most of the people the assassination of the Police Chief Gen Abdul Raziq is the one going to have a severe effect on the Afghan forces. He kept the Taliban in check in Kandahar and led many operations against them. They tried to kill many times before. Lets see how this plays out in the coming days provided the fighting doesn't decrease due to arrival of winter season. 1. https://www.foxnews.com/us/stealthy-f-35-fighter-sees-1st-combat-action 2. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/10/asia/afghanistan-airstrikes-civilian-deaths-un-report-intl/index.html
>>179420 >>179422 it seems to me they're trying to slowly grind kandahar, no fucking way they have the capabilities to full frontal storm the second biggest city in afghanistan also come to think of it this big blow comes very conveniently to add more leverage in the negotiating tables for the upcoming talks thanks for the insights
>>179423 >it seems to me they're trying to slowly grind kandahar, no fucking way they have the capabilities to full frontal storm the second biggest city in afghanistan Most probably they will do as you have said yourself and considering they tried to assassinate the US general, the Americans will be bombing the shit out of the place again. >also come to think of it this big blow comes very conveniently to add more leverage in the negotiating tables for the upcoming talks aye also np mate
>>179493 >They are the best faction in Afghanistan now WEW LAD I thought we were supposed to be against islamists? They're no better than Daesh, with their destruction of cultural heritage and history. Fuck them.
>>179493 >No need. Bump limit is 750 Just planning ahead of time in case someone really wants to do it. Oh, I thought it was 700. Ignore me. >They are the best faction in Afghanistan now What? They are absolutely barbaric savages. Don't let your hatred of America, make you side with that which is worse. Here is my order, from best to worst >Russia and China >Based, secular Arabs like Syria and Egypt >Hezbollah (when they fight for Assad) ———————This line separates the good from the bad >The US and it's European allies >Kurds (SDF) >Israel (yes, I'm not putting them last) >Kurds (PKK) >Turkey >"Moderate rebels" (and Hezbollah when they fight against Israel - yes, yes, I know, I'm a kike shill) >Islamists (including Hamas) >ISIS
>>179534 Above Hezbollah, under based secular states. >>179547 hmm, again, I'm just not sure if I should take that post seriously. I know that it's a funny meme that Israel controls ISIS, but…
>>179595 what do you think of the whole khashoggi affair and its outcome? Bearing in mind the rumors of MBS being replaced by his younger brother Khaled[1] and the blame being placed on Major General Ahmed al Assiri the advisor to the crown prince[2]what is going to happen in Saudi Arabia?
>>179598 soft regime change (internal either voluntarily or through coup d'etat/assassinations) or hard regime change (proxy or boots on ground) doubt it'll be swept under the rug especially since all the traction it got in the media
>>179600 >doubt it'll be swept under the rug especially since all the traction it got in the media Civil war? >>179601 >Again! ??? also the same question >>179598 to you
>>179598 I honestly think MBS dindu nuffin, and this is a start of how to get rid of him without too much effort for all the fuck ups he has done. >memes become real again
>>179659 hard regime change in KSA (civil war) is good as it'll put them on their knees and create internal power struggle à la idlib where they'll be too busy cannibalizing themselves and using all their resources to fight each other thus diverting money away from international proxy funding >b-b-but muh MB getting that oil money as if (((islamists))) don't exist outside of MB, what a retarded statement
Really doubt KSA would see a civil war over a murdered journalist, even if it's in a Turkish consulate. Internal power struggle / shuffling perhaps, they are too important for the US right now for something bigger. I think it's interesting to put this into perspective alongside the recent Iran affair and sanctions. The oil price is quite high, while the US is a producer of petroleum, most of the EU's economies are for a big chunk dependent on imports of foreign oil; with the US is trying to boycott the EU dealings with Iran, plus the EU having sanctions on Russia, oil is starting to become more of an issue in the EU. So that EU does not get closer with Iran, Russia or other major non-US-approved countries; as well as for economic reasons, the US needs KSA to increase oil production. On the other hand, the "muh human rights" in (mostly Western) EU are not happy at all, with some rumors of sanctions on KSA among the less pragmatic parties (see: leftist), as this affair shines some light on the hypocrisy of these liberal governments calling for human rights in China,Syria,etc. but having huge deals with absolute monarchies who kill critical journalists in foreign diplomatic missions. Rouhani must be happy the Saudis keep surprising everyone with their level of incompetence.
>>179498 >we >we >we >we >we >we >we >we Lad… >>179501 Ok. I will now make my case for the Taliban. Pingu and Doc, I welcome your criticism.
1) They have the overwhelming support of the Afghan population, which also hates the government to the point of taking up arms against them - case in point, the recent decapitation strike: the governor's bodyguards turned their weapons against the government when it hurt the most. Historically, governments that are massively unpopular with their populations have fallen. It's only a matter of time. 2) The Taliban are against Bacha Bazi. They clamped down tightly on Bacha Bazi, to the point of locking the offenders up and throwing away the keys. When NATO invaded Afghanistan, they mistook the Bacha Bazi perpetrators for political prisoners (or maybe it was intentional), and let them all out. The perpetrators now hold positions in the Afghan government. The victims? They turn to the Taliban to get revenge on their attackers. The Taliban may be a band of Islamists, but the government is worse. 3) The Taliban never us in 9/11. It was al-Qaeda that did it. The only mistake the Taliban made was giving shelter to al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. Their attacks against the US has been exclusively within Afghanistan. 4) They shut down opium production in Afghanistan in the years leading up to the invasion, leading to a swirl of conspiracy theories (or facts?) that the invasion was all about opium production, and if the Taliban hadn't burned the poppy fields, they would still be in power. 5) Neighbor relations. The neighboring countries - notably Iran, Pakistan, China (not sure about this one) - dislike the Afghan government since it is a Blue Team government in a sea of Red Team nations. Pakistan is the number 1 supporter of the Taliban, Iran has also allegedly stepped up to assist the Taliban if only to see Burger removed from their eastern front. Furthermore, there is an emerging Red Team economic bloc (EAEU, New Silk Road). If by the mid-2020s, Afghanistan still has a Blue Team government, they will be isolated from the Red Team economic bloc. Whereas, if the Taliban take power, they would (and already have made effort) to improve their relations with their neighbors. It is highly likely the Taliban would join the Red Team economic bloc and raise the standard of living for their people.
But really, point one is the biggest reason. If the Afghan people want the Taliban to be in power, let them put the Taliban in power. If you try fighting them on that decision, it will only entrench them. If they want Sharia in Afghanistan, let them have Sharia in Afghanistan. The only issue is if they try to export that Sharia from Afghanistan.
>>179767 hmm, you raise some good points. I suppose that if the majority support them, that would be one thing, my main issue with all that you've said (and this may come across as naive on my part), if the majority of Afghans support them, why did they vote for the current government? I mean they had elections there, no? But I concede that you made some good points, Ebin. Also, I like how you referred to team colours in your answer; Speaking of which, pic related is what I think is the best final Middle East diplo map. I thought my last version coloured in too many areas.
>>179782 I do indeed. But >why did they vote for the current government? >elections Come on now… >mideast map NOT ENOUGH COLOR. I liked the other map better. Uzbek is in SCO and CSTO IIRC, so they're Red Team. If you're gonna make France & Greece light blue, make most of Europe light blue
>>179788 Nathan, the more detailed a map is, the better. Why do you think I have the Syria Shitmap with neighbor alignment colors (Iraq/Leb is Red, Turkey and Jordan is green)?
>>179789 To each their own, I suppose. I like to stay on the conservative side when colouring because when a country only leans slightly in one direction or the other, it can be misleading. Vhat about this compromise?
>>179792 >montenegro is dual-aligned They went full NATO although I don't really know much about the situation in the Balkans other than the obvious Also, Uzbek is full Red Team. They're just not in EAEU, but they are part of SCO and CSTO, both Red Team alliances >>179793 Fair enough.
>>179795 >Montenagro I just knew that they had a substantial Serb population and thought >meh, they're probably based and are at least somewhat friendly with Russia, but idk. I'll change then to "not coloured"
BAKING FRESH BAKING FRESH BAKING FRESH >I have a relevant meme in mind, which I'll make, but I'm doing other things atm, may take a few hours. >>179806 >>179813 See you then.
>>179767 >Iran has also allegedly stepped up to assist the Taliban iran is helping the anti government shia groups (made up of mainly hazara) and did so since the commie invasion also i would add that Taliban pre 2001 and Taliban of today are very different they're now opening up more to foreign influences and are more lax on things such as new technologies taking bigger place in public life (tv, internet, cellphones etc) and in terms of government services (healthcare, education for women etc) while back then they were a much more hermetic to these concepts. they've learned a lot from their mistakes and are adapting to the needs of the population (obviously without going full (((western degeneracy))) ) also unlike islamist in ME they're far more relaxed with their shia counterparts (to the point of getting real mad at IS-K for trying to spark a sunni-shia war à la iraq since they see this as a D&C to make brotherly afghani fight against each other rather than against mutt government)
To think that Taliban are bad because they're islamist in a country where everyone is islamist is stupid. history showed us that forced secularization is counter productive and any other government will have to be somewhat pro islam if they want to last Taliban are merely the expression of afghan society, not a foreign imposed ideology unlike commie/ supported governments
>>179875 >Iran They are trying to influence the Talis and have contacts with them through Mashhad Shura >also unlike islamist in ME they're far more relaxed with their shia counterparts That only holds up if the Hazaras dont start shit with them. Now bear in mind Fatmiyoun that went and fought under the command of IRGC in Iraq and Syria are made up of mostly Hazaras and they have started to return even though they were meant to be settled in Iran with their families if they fought for them. https://archive.fo/1uuDg
>>179879 >They are trying to influence the Talis and have contacts with them through Mashhad Shura yeah but i highly doubt it'll have a big impact, taliban like being independent in their decisions >That only holds up if the Hazaras dont start shit with them indeed but i wanted to point out that tali aren't the purity spiraling type that would go on sectarian ethnic cleansing for the sake of it unlike islamist in ME >Now bear in mind Fatmiyoun that went and fought under the command of IRGC in Iraq and Syria are made up of mostly Hazaras and they have started to return even though they were meant to be settled in Iran with their families if they fought for them. this concerns more the IS-K than taliban if anything it'll play in favor of taliban who'll capitalize on the sectarian massacres to form a stronger alliance with a more reliable battle hardened hazara but that may also mean that taliban will have to put up with shia demands since they will now hold more weight in negotiations tables we'll see how it'll turn out
>>179880 >this concerns more the IS-K than taliban if anything it'll play in favor of taliban >Clashes ungoing between the guards of Anti-Taliban commander Ali Poor & commandos in Ghur. For years #AliPoor took the security of the Kabul-Bamiyan Highway allowing people to travel more safely.He has always supported the afg gov &the reason behind the arrest attempt are unclear https://twitter.com/NikValentini/status/1048533553833791489 >The clashes triggered a protest in Bamiyan.The arrest of prominent commanders (see Qaysari's* arrest inJuly) risks to alienate communities who rely on the security provided by antiTaliban forces.Unclear if these arrests are part of a broader confidence building process withTaliban https://twitter.com/NikValentini/status/1048533556757237761 >Hazara Cmndr Alipur appeared with women & child soldiers after thwarting an arrest attempt by Afghan Special forces. The infighting killed dozens in Ghor province including civilians. Alipur have ties to IRGC, sends fighters to Syria to fight Assad war & collects illegal taxes. https://twitter.com/Pashtunist/status/1050130023624118272
*Qaysari- Dostums boy (one of the Northern Alliance commander)
>>179880 > who'll capitalize on the sectarian massacres to form a stronger alliance with a more reliable battle hardened hazara but that may also mean that taliban will have to put up with shia demands since they will now hold more weight in negotiations tables To be fair you are correct about this if they are stopped from attacking each other and the regional players mediate a peace agreement between their favored proxy groups.