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>>143558
I thought reperations were a meme. There can't be any way they think this is a good idea. The only thing that scares me us that IF by some miracle they win enough seats, the Republicans will bend over for them.
I thought reperations were a meme. There can't be any way they think this is a good idea. The only thing that scares me us that IF by some miracle they win enough seats, the Republicans will bend over for them.
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>>143580
What guns are for.
Reparations, second amendment repeal, and a handful of other scenarios that will warrant violence.
What guns are for.
Reparations, second amendment repeal, and a handful of other scenarios that will warrant violence.
Universal basic income kind of scares me. I think that there are too many idiots who will gladly sell their vote in exchange for shiny beads.
>>143593
College kids will go for it probably, but even the most bluepilled older people are generally smart enough to understand why it wouldn't work. Plus it's not going to score them any points with blacks since it's something they basically get already. I'm surprised they're not calling the program "Welfare for All".
College kids will go for it probably, but even the most bluepilled older people are generally smart enough to understand why it wouldn't work. Plus it's not going to score them any points with blacks since it's something they basically get already. I'm surprised they're not calling the program "Welfare for All".
>>143599
It shouldn't gain much traction in just a few years, but there are many who think it's inevitable because of the "le transhumanism/automation/technological singularity will make us all unemployed" lies. One of my friends who's nearly completely apolitical was a proponent until I explained how economically infeasible it is.
Universal basic income will be an attempt to revive communism. It's bread and circuses on steroids.
It shouldn't gain much traction in just a few years, but there are many who think it's inevitable because of the "le transhumanism/automation/technological singularity will make us all unemployed" lies. One of my friends who's nearly completely apolitical was a proponent until I explained how economically infeasible it is.
Universal basic income will be an attempt to revive communism. It's bread and circuses on steroids.
Wonder why they don't say how they wat to pay for all this. How big will the tax hike be?
>>143558
Archived copy of the Washington free beacon story
http://archive.is/GHNxq
>>143593
It should be easy to counter the "Universal income" as Finland, the only country I know of that has tried this idea, is scrapping it.
http://archive.is/D479O
>>143558
Archived copy of the Washington free beacon story
http://archive.is/GHNxq
>>143593
It should be easy to counter the "Universal income" as Finland, the only country I know of that has tried this idea, is scrapping it.
http://archive.is/D479O
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>>143558
seems like the USA now officially has a communist party. nobody saw that coming except maybe every non-dem voter since 2016.
>>143603
Universal income is nonsense and i doubt i can work in anything but microstates.
If the dems are actually getting elected and pull through with this shit, the USA will be bankrupt in a matter of a few years.
seems like the USA now officially has a communist party. nobody saw that coming except maybe every non-dem voter since 2016.
>>143603
Universal income is nonsense and i doubt i can work in anything but microstates.
If the dems are actually getting elected and pull through with this shit, the USA will be bankrupt in a matter of a few years.
>>143604
>If the dems are actually getting elected and pull through with this shit, the USA will be bankrupt in a matter of a few years.
Agree. The fastest way to truly fuck over the US economy would be to implement this. Income taxes would have to be raised to at least 30%, sales tax would have to be raised to an equal amount. Salaries would then have to be raised because of the increased cost of all goods and the lower monthly payouts after tax. And the ensuing spiral will fuck up everything. And then a flood of Mexicans and South Americans would flood in, go to a sanctuary city and say "Gib Money".
>If the dems are actually getting elected and pull through with this shit, the USA will be bankrupt in a matter of a few years.
Agree. The fastest way to truly fuck over the US economy would be to implement this. Income taxes would have to be raised to at least 30%, sales tax would have to be raised to an equal amount. Salaries would then have to be raised because of the increased cost of all goods and the lower monthly payouts after tax. And the ensuing spiral will fuck up everything. And then a flood of Mexicans and South Americans would flood in, go to a sanctuary city and say "Gib Money".
>>143603
>It should be easy to counter the "Universal income" as Finland, the only country I know of that has tried this idea, is scrapping it.
I'm mostly concerned about the multitude of idiots in my generation (millenial). I feel like the public schools have been cultivating a herd of idiots for for decades in preparation for something like this. I went to a public high school, and my peers were dumb as a bag of rocks. If you promise them free money, they'll support you in a heartbeat. They had no grasp of economics. Their response would be one of blind emotion rather than reason. They'd start viewing anyone opposing the plan as a racist thief who is trying to steal their money. Examples of UBI failing elsewhere will be brushed aside by their faith that "this plan is different."
Most won't question or care where the money comes from. Many would even demand that the government should merely print more money to pay everyone.
>It should be easy to counter the "Universal income" as Finland, the only country I know of that has tried this idea, is scrapping it.
I'm mostly concerned about the multitude of idiots in my generation (millenial). I feel like the public schools have been cultivating a herd of idiots for for decades in preparation for something like this. I went to a public high school, and my peers were dumb as a bag of rocks. If you promise them free money, they'll support you in a heartbeat. They had no grasp of economics. Their response would be one of blind emotion rather than reason. They'd start viewing anyone opposing the plan as a racist thief who is trying to steal their money. Examples of UBI failing elsewhere will be brushed aside by their faith that "this plan is different."
Most won't question or care where the money comes from. Many would even demand that the government should merely print more money to pay everyone.
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>>143623
sadly i fear is both true and a main reason to fear the universal income as a election promise.
most people are greedy and dumb. they have no care for real world problems except their own. When a party goes out of their way to LITERALLY BUY their own votes with a false promise of free money, they will get a lot of votes. the more uneducated the voters in average are, the better they will do. This is a economic bakc happening to explode, fueled by the ignorance of the voting population. This is why Democracy is a mistake. It is so easyly exploited.
sadly i fear is both true and a main reason to fear the universal income as a election promise.
most people are greedy and dumb. they have no care for real world problems except their own. When a party goes out of their way to LITERALLY BUY their own votes with a false promise of free money, they will get a lot of votes. the more uneducated the voters in average are, the better they will do. This is a economic bakc happening to explode, fueled by the ignorance of the voting population. This is why Democracy is a mistake. It is so easyly exploited.
>>143623
Ah yes it is true, the democrats will be able to convince a shitload of overeducated idiots that this is a good idea.
The trial Finland did was with a selection of only 2000 participants, and even before the end of the project they figured out it would never work and scrapped it.
Ah yes it is true, the democrats will be able to convince a shitload of overeducated idiots that this is a good idea.
The trial Finland did was with a selection of only 2000 participants, and even before the end of the project they figured out it would never work and scrapped it.
>>143603
>Wonder why they don't say how they wat to pay for all this. How big will the tax hike be?
The dems will push for white and male privilege taxes. Calling it now.
>Wonder why they don't say how they wat to pay for all this. How big will the tax hike be?
The dems will push for white and male privilege taxes. Calling it now.
>>143632
If I had to guess, UBI would be funded by a mix of:
1: raised taxes on higher income families
2: hidden fees and taxes on services. The average pleb doesn't pay attention to how much that they pay in sales tax. If they do notice rising costs, they'd blame the local stores rather than the legislators responsible for rising taxes/fees.
3: the federal Reserve waving its magic wand to print money out of thin air. Concepts like inflation or merely that the buying power of a dollar is variable are lost on these brainlets.
If I had to guess, UBI would be funded by a mix of:
1: raised taxes on higher income families
2: hidden fees and taxes on services. The average pleb doesn't pay attention to how much that they pay in sales tax. If they do notice rising costs, they'd blame the local stores rather than the legislators responsible for rising taxes/fees.
3: the federal Reserve waving its magic wand to print money out of thin air. Concepts like inflation or merely that the buying power of a dollar is variable are lost on these brainlets.
>>143605
Not only all that, but if UBI is implemented then there's no longer any incentive for young people to pursue careers, or anyone for that matter. If your options are either to work and have realistically at least 50% of your income going to taxes, or to sit on your ass and get handed money that comes out of someone else's taxes, who is going to choose work? Even if UBI is just subsistence wages and you could theoretically earn more if you followed a traditional career path, there's no incentive to do so because the more you make the more you're going to pay in taxes, so you'll probably end up living on subsistence wages one way or the other. On top of that you've got all the useless mouths coming in via immigration that would probably be enough to sink us even if we keep things the way they are currently. The only realistic way to pay for this is to "borrow" and print up even more imaginary money, which will cause the price of just about everything to skyrocket. This would literally turn America into Mexico.
Not only all that, but if UBI is implemented then there's no longer any incentive for young people to pursue careers, or anyone for that matter. If your options are either to work and have realistically at least 50% of your income going to taxes, or to sit on your ass and get handed money that comes out of someone else's taxes, who is going to choose work? Even if UBI is just subsistence wages and you could theoretically earn more if you followed a traditional career path, there's no incentive to do so because the more you make the more you're going to pay in taxes, so you'll probably end up living on subsistence wages one way or the other. On top of that you've got all the useless mouths coming in via immigration that would probably be enough to sink us even if we keep things the way they are currently. The only realistic way to pay for this is to "borrow" and print up even more imaginary money, which will cause the price of just about everything to skyrocket. This would literally turn America into Mexico.
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>>143656
This was basically the reason Finland scrapped their test run. Handing out money without any requirements didn't work. Also if they wanted to actually finance a system like that the taxes in Finland had to be risen 30% according to OECD
http://archive.is/1kLHg
From PDF:
>A universal basic income, which is being experimented on a small scale, is sometimes presented as a solution. However, even though a basic income might enhance work incentives, its generalisation may increase poverty (from 11.4% to 14.1% in the scenario described below), and would require increasing income taxation by nearly 30% (OECD, 2017a). Hence, alternative routes to reform with the aim to simplify and coordinate working-age benefits to improve work incentives and adapt to a changing world of work need to be considered, taking into account the trade-offs they imply in terms of work incentives, distributional effects and fiscal costs.
This was basically the reason Finland scrapped their test run. Handing out money without any requirements didn't work. Also if they wanted to actually finance a system like that the taxes in Finland had to be risen 30% according to OECD
http://archive.is/1kLHg
From PDF:
>A universal basic income, which is being experimented on a small scale, is sometimes presented as a solution. However, even though a basic income might enhance work incentives, its generalisation may increase poverty (from 11.4% to 14.1% in the scenario described below), and would require increasing income taxation by nearly 30% (OECD, 2017a). Hence, alternative routes to reform with the aim to simplify and coordinate working-age benefits to improve work incentives and adapt to a changing world of work need to be considered, taking into account the trade-offs they imply in terms of work incentives, distributional effects and fiscal costs.
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