/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

no question.

>>138245
Nightmare Moon and her Army of Darkness.

>>138245
Moonbutt obviously

>>138245
Sunbutt, she isn't a spoiled princess who tries to usurp thrones because she's sour about how no one notices her.

Twilight isn't a fucking princess reeeee!

>>138260
>sunfags still liking the basic bitch princess

>>138262
here's a non-heretical image for you.

>>138255
Luna is Cutest

>>138255
This. Nightmare Moon did nothing wrong.

>>138245
Princess Sunshine. :-)

>>138320
Super gay and soy like. Zzz.

>>138332
Don't hurt yourself on that edge now, anon.

>>138245
This one, she puts her people first before her own selfish desires, unlike a certain edgelord nigger princess.

>>138343
>implying incandescence matters at all
nice meme

>>138344
>implying incandescence matters at all
Enjoy wandering around in the dark with a starchart anon. I hope you brought a flashlight or it might make shitposting for a reflection of the sun's light difficult.

>>138345
>implying I don't already do the majority of my shitposting at night
>not shitposting at the superior time to avoid pesky sun on your computer
It's like you're just another normalfag

>>138348
forgot picture

>>138263
>usurping is bad, don't dissent
>>138342
If the show had a complex extended universe would probably run some political -bureaucratic mess as the head monarch.
11/10 would guillotine.

The absolute state of Sunfags.
I honestly don't mind Sunfags at all but when they go around play-acting their retarded princess is better? Then it starts becoming annoying.

Let's face reality friends, Nightmare Moon is the true princess.
1. She'll Make Equestria Great Again. MEGA
2. Is cute. Nightmare Rarity as well.
3. Would be the militant and totalitarian leader we need but don't deserve.
4. Superior warrior and tactician.
Why aren't (YOU) joining the Imperial Luna forces today?

>>138352
>I honestly don't mind Sunfags at all but when they go around play-acting their retarded princess is better? Then it starts becoming annoying.
>Completely ignores that moonfags do more or less the same
>Proceeds to do the same himself

Honestly, Candyassfags are more chill than any of us, also cucks.

>>138354
My reasoning is practical, utilitarian and logistical.
Sunfags have no arguments to speak of, only vague smugness.

I am not much of a fan of alicorns, princesses or monarchy in general, but of the canonical entities I do like Princess Inferno best.

I have a general likeness for characters with elemental infusion.

>>138352
How is she going to handle Equestria if she can't beat a librarian?

>>138356
Oh, you want me to actually argue it out? Okay here goes.

1. Put her subjects and her duty before her own desires and banished her selfish, petulant sister to the moon
2. Did her sister's job for a thousand years, longer than Luna even did it.
3. Administrated an entire country, and managed to teach her own magic school classes at the same time
4. Philosophically sound, teaches her subjects to seek out friendship and harmony, leads by example
5. Not afraid of war, and leads from the frontline as a real leader should (Crystal war timeline)
6. Not afraid to admit when she's wrong, makes amends when she is (Canterlot Wedding, A Royal Problem)
7. Regal as fuck, doesn't let it go to her head, loves to have fun with her subjects like a normal pony.

Let's look at Luna
1. Cares more about being liked than doing her duty
2. Tried to ban a holiday because it offended her
3. Would rather punish herself and wallow in self pity rather than repent through good deeds, summoned a cosmic horror to torment herself with without considering the consequences to other ponies
4. Thinks administrating a country is easy, at least able to admit when she's wrong
5. Doesn't perform any bureaucratic functions, just pretties the castle with flowers and attends to the mental health of at most a handful of ponies a night
6. Remains out of the public eye too much, not leader material
7. Has a tiny butt

Memes aside, the writers haven't handled Luna very well, whether it's the show or the comics, she's portrayed as a petulant and self-important younger sibling.

You thought you could just get away with saying those things? On the internet?
>>138363
>1 & 2 "I sent my sister to the moon for 1000 years"
These should both be the same point anyway.
Also, your arguing for her banishing her own sister to the moon for a 1000 years, with available alternatives and it is not-explicit how long she was non-nightmare for while on the moon.
We can reasonably assume a long time, especially relative to being alone, banished, to the fucking moon and by her own sister.
3a. You unironically can't prove this. This is random supposition at worse and reading between the lines at best-
3b. Prince Blueblood is literally supposed to be a Duke. If we're going to say retarded things that are likely true without stating such I can just say, "Prince Blueblood existing as a member of a royalty just below the monarchy itself is a good indicator of a more complex and unseen political and bureaucratic system in place." and I would still make more sense than you.
4. (((friendship)))
Yes, Twilight, don't listen to the Governing and Ruling Authority I control, teach the joys of friendship to your new multicultural friends, ignore all the other established species as well like a good goy. Wew. Starting to feel Celestia fan faggotry on the right wing is some kind of 'the little-man' self-hate complex.
5. You're literally arguing using the raw material from a kid show. I'm sorry, but I can't take you seriously, the show is nice and fluffy but it isn't very well rounded and isn't all /that/ great.
I'll play your retarded game though!
Notice how in the episode, it was portrayed as a real war? Not even a ""War"" (aka conflict) but a full-scale military and industrial effort? Either Sombra was good or Celestia was retarded.
It couldn't be the former either because of the superior geopolitical positioning and conversely global positioning as well as functional advantages: Physical positioning, strategic supply, etc.
If you want to ignore the fact it's a kid show sure, but then you have to think rationally and realize how retarded that point is.
6. Yes. I have nothing against Celestia fans and am not their enemy. If only Celly fans had the same humility as Celestia herself.
7.
>banishes her sister
>to the moon
>for a vaguely large period of time
>encases discord in stone
>because of some Aussie shitposts
>probably would have let it continue forever
>proven wrong, reform completed

Luna:
>words

>Memes aside, the writers haven't handled Luna very well, whether it's the show or the comics, she's portrayed as a petulant and self-important younger sibling.
This is why I can't take anything seriously here, it's mostly reading between the lines.
I stand by Luna because the memes are simply too good to pass up and the ideas that can externally be associated with her are good stuff.
As a framework for a character she's better as well, perfect for adding to, you have everything you need in a neat blue package for -say- writing a well-rounded character right off the bat.

If I was a writer for a show for little girls I wouldn't want to deal with extending the character either for fear of butchering it in the process of refining for the TA.
Can't for the life of me extend or characterize Celestia, I've tried. Mostly just have to stick to the motherly trope etc. while relying heavily on creating new flaws, but I'm still often worried about them seeming flat, left-field or a bit stereotypical and poorly portrayed in a suitably showy not telly way.
I see it in a lot of others works and it shows, usually in those same works they'll do something well with Luna, maybe unique.
Whenever it comes to Sunny it's a pain to read and a pain to write.
I think I can write Celestia well now (after a lengthy outline,) but I'm wary of doing anything new.

There's a difference between a character established within a story and establishing proper characters. I think I gotta go with Luna still, just because of her potential as a character.
Also, writing this in number point format messed this up good. Crazy sentences all over (simple as well) and really weird use of transitions. It's also impossible to remove unnecessary wording and redraft this mess.

>>138379
>Also, your arguing for her banishing her own sister to the moon for a 1000 years, with available alternatives and it is not-explicit how long she was non-nightmare for while on the moon.
Let me stop you right there.

>"Does my crown no longer count now that I have been imprisoned for a thousand years?"
Episode god damned one, straight from the horse's mouth.

>>138384
Honestly, I realized that the moment I reread it. I'm honestly so mad I brought it up because they are the most retarded plot devices ever. Probably the worst part of the story and background exposition, I also don't think how its used to justify the blunt characterization of the main cast is worth thinking about either. I've been trying to ignore that they exist for a while now, every time I think about it I realize how contrived it is and start thinking about all the ways it could be done better. It's gonna give me a good case of whataboutism.

You're also defending the retarded backstory, it's all related but disconnected oddly. I don't understand the signficance of some specific parts that seem to (mostly) exist to build significance. Like the story of Harmony.
I fucking hate it.

>>138385
Also, I'm talking more about the elements, but the 1000 years shtick still makes no sense. 1000 years to let somebody at best stew neurotically and at worse continue their possession uninterrupted externally?? Not the greatest of plans.

>>138385
In your defense, it was a long time ago and they misuse the whole 1000 year thing a little too much after that point. By the season 7 finale, every fucking bad thing that has ever happened comes back 'after a thousnad years' or happened 'over a thousand years ago'.

I typically don't like how Luna's handled because her motivation for being a villain was envy, a good idea on paper because it hearkens back to pagan myth about the conflict between day and night, but the show just handwaved it as "Ponies sleep during the night and WAAAH". After her redemption, and she apologises, she proceeds to disappear entirely until season 2, where she returns and, lo and behold, is just as petulant as ever. One thousand years have passed after she attempted to upset balance and harmony and she is somehow shocked that the ponies have a skewed view of her.

Therre is precisely one good thing about Luna that was handled in a stellar hue way, and that is pic related. It's been pointed out before the subtle significance of her offering candy to a statue of herself when she was evil.

Celestia is just better to me, she's everything the leader of a country should be, she's a mare of the people and her authority isn't derived from her station as an alicorn or a princess, but because of what she has done over her long life. Too many people see the princess before the pony, and the pony she is and has always been is a teacher.

>>138390
Carer trope and she gets the rope.

>>138245
Sun Horse forever!

>>138397
Praise!

I usually like the color dark blue and night themed characters, but Luna never struck my eye. And to be honest i find the worship of a moon themed character on this site flat out heretical if you consider that our dominant symbol is a sun representative.

The fact that luna is especially popular within the mod staff of this site is one of it's many shades of corruption that is dawn upon us. I'd keep a rope in my trunk if i were you just in case one of them needs a neck massage.

>>138399
Luna tends to be popular with autists, that's all it means.

Based mods. Only autistic porn posters choose fat cheeks.
>>138399
>>138263
>>138260
>>138320
>>138342
>>138343
>>138345
>>138357
>>138358
>>138390
>>138400

>Solar Empire iz > Lunar Republic guize durr

>>138417

that noose looks like its made of cable, not good old sailor rope. No wonder she failed to hang herself properly. Besides i dont really like hangman girl, she was kind of a flavourless doormat. Satania is unintentonally a doormat too, but at least she is funny and has attitude.

I like Celestia when she's being silly or angry.

>>138254
this

Cadence is wortst princess and worst pony

>>138465
With an abomination as a daughter.

It does my heart good to see all the lunad in the thread

>>138527
Luna's*

Princess Celestia. <3

Celestia is best Princess.

Motherfucking site code stole my get.

>>138890
Good, Celestia is shit.

>>138908
Your waifu is shit and so are your country’s policies

>>138909
So you agree Celly is shit??

>>138890
>site code stole your get
Of course the newfags always have horrible taste.^:)

>>138927
Eat lead you revolutionary Marxist scum

>>138947
Unf

>>138947
>>138950
Not my fault I'm smart enough to like Cellophane but remain respectful of the fact she's objectively worse as a character. I like celly for my own more subjective raisins and that's good enough for me.

I like Luna because I'm a sucker for a tragic backstory
>Fixes ponies' nightmares
>Works on making the sky as pretty as possible every night
>Nobody appreciates it, presumably not only because "dey jus slep dum whine babby" but it was essentially their middle ages. They probably actively shunned the night and feared monsters both real and make believe that dwelled in it, while still loving her sister
>Becomes jealous and feels hurt at her work going unappreciated, and presumably by how her sister seems to genuinely help her, Celestia probably eother was ignorant or didn't care and allowed her sister to spiral downwards mentally
>Fucking magic happens that takes her jealousy and pain and uses it to fucking possess her and make her go evil
>Refuses to lower Moon for a period I don't remember, but I vaguely recall it being short, literally nothing else
>If it was a short period crops should be fine, and with it being magic pony land I doubt Moon affects tides, and even if it did, magic can fix it
>Celestia battles her sister and sends her to the Moon in total isolation for 1,000 years
>Former fears amongst populace of night and all related to it are bolstered, and rumors spread and Luna and Nightmare Moon are considered one and the same instead of 1 and a half or 2 ponies
>Finally returns and is returned to normal like should've happened before being forced to live on a cold crater-rock with only her inner-demon to keep her company, probably actively trying to hurt Luna in the meantime, or they form bond and when split Luna's only companion for 1,000 years is gone forever
>Tries to adapt to modern society
>Is shunned and ostracized despite ample time for ponies to learn the truth
>Breaks down and despite not being ostracized in one single town anymore, is still not fully accepted there and somewhat feared
>No telling how other cities, villages, etc. view and treat her
>Emotionaldownwardspiralnumbergodknowswhat.jpg
>Creates beast to hurt herself because she's come to view herself as bad and deserving punishment for having mental issues spawned by neglect and ostracization and then getting essentially possessed
>Tantabus defeated and finally gets some semblance of a normal princess life back, maybe through mental health outlets even
>Still not as popular or loved as her sister, but finally manages to suck up despite possible mental issues and guarunteed emotional issues that were untreated either all together or for a long fucking time or poorly treated, and is undoubtedly still feared and hated even in certain places
>Her work is still widely unappreciated and story not well known, unless Twilight shed light on it by publishing the journal of the mane 6's adventures, but even then it'd probably be overshadowed by the rest of their antics

On top of that, I also love Moon Man and just have a preference for starry nights to bright sunny days.

>>139044
>implying this is wrong
>>139047
Eee, you forgot bat-poneees.

>>139048
We have no idea if batponies are nocturnal though, or if they have the same schedule and just are used as her guards because better night eyesight

>>139044
You cant exactly call someone a fat virgin here

>>139048
*tip*
>>139096
No need to. :^)

>>139112
>le epic fedora man strawman
>brainlet

>all who have different opinions wear fedoras
>ascended

Nice supposition Anon-Kun. Shame none of those reasons for best princess are wrong.

>>139114
Nah. I just enjoy baiting people like you. I like Luna, even if she's not my favorite pony. Epic fit, Australia.

>>139116
But all you did was reframe legitimate points.
Why do you think I opened with a simple implying.
The content and context both contrasted so badly it smelt of a dissonant troll a mile away.
Fuck, I hate America sometimes, how's Wyoming?

>>139118
Mild and partly cloudy.

>>139118
>The content and context both contrasted so badly it smelt of a dissonant troll a mile away.

Hello, Reddit.

I've committed actual dishonour on my people.
I was going to argue -with myself- about Reddit and why worst princess (Luna) isn't better.
With myself who was shitposting about why she "was" better.
So I closed the tab with my prewritten bait (yes, all Australian IPs have prewritten pasta,) so that I could prepare to get a new ID.
For a thread… That has no IDs.

This is not a good day for dividing Luna and Celestia funbois.
Honestly? This is the last straw, I'm officially with Luna now.

>>139301
This just in, Australia shitposts again and nobody is surprised.

>>139301
>>139305
Shit like this is why leafs have surpassed Aussies in absolute shitposting.
Not the amusing kind.

>>138245
Celestia is the better ruler, mentor, and religious figure.
Luna is cuter, has slightly more of a personality, and has the more interesting domain.
So…I'm going to go with the obvious choice (pic related).

>>138245
Luna

>>145188
Luna
Is that the sword of Gryffindor?

>>145199
That is one of the most beautiful Luna images I have ever seen

>>145201
It very well could be. what the hell is a Gryffindor?

>>138245
Doesn't matter. I'd fucc'em both.