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When did the show start declining?
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I know this is depressing as shit watching our show die because the new cast and SJWs or whatever. Im sure s1 and s2 are golden to us but s3 and the rest are heavily criticized. When was the show at its grand peak? When did it began to fall? Why?
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Since Generation 1.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK1RSLOyCns

as far as i can tell the negative milestones were: Twilights wings, Candyass, EQG, Glimmer, small Jim taking over, Candyasses baby, gay changelings and now the SJW School.

Downward Spiral.
Downward Spiral.
Downward Spiral.
Downward Spiral.

Anonymous
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>>137945
Season 2's candyass bullshit was mandated by Hasbro, so what did Faust and her friends do? They showed us the shit wedding they needed to have, introduced an interesting villain in the form of Chrysalis, and put effort into making the episode fun.
Season 3's ending was mandatory, Twilight HAD to get wings, so the episode tried to convince us she'd earned them, and the ending tried to make us proud of how far Twilight's come.
EQG was shit. Cancerous idiot-plot shit. Second film redeemed the concept and turned Shimmer from a shit villain into an understanding and pretty good hero, but introducing human Twilight was a mistake, so the whole concept is now dragged down by the writers wanting Shimmer to hand the protagonist role off to somepony who isn't ready for it, or magic, or anything her pony self is. Human Twilight is just a lesser Pony Twilight, and that's all the writers are willing to let her be. Same goes for her mane-six friends, they're lesser versions of the ponies we love.

When the dumbasses took over, things got less good, but Faust's friends tried their hardest to make the shitty editorial mandates work.

Then, those writers were fired and replaced with sycophant freelancers who don't even bother to watch MLP before writing episodes for it. Applejack's a stupid hick who hates all fruit except apples and can't manage her farm sensibly now, Twilight's another bland Ruby Rose-tier protagonist, Fluttershy's a manipulative bitch who made Discord emotionally dependent on her, and so on.

Of course, the change in creators mean these new seasons of MLP are about as canon as Dragonball GT was.

The decline in MLP didn't start when Hasbro started saying "Include this, or you're fired". It started when the writers stopped trying to do interesting/creative things with the mandates, and stopped trying to make good episodes around them.
Anonymous
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>>137945
Season 1 episode 3
Anonymous
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>>137945
Season 1 episode 0
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>>137945
The show has always fluctuated in quality, it was just better than expected overall. The main dip happened in season 3. That is where the downward trend started.
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>>137945
Season 3
Anonymous
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I think it's all opinions. I've enjoyed the show, each season having a few episodes I like and dislike.
>Twaggles wings dinduNuffin
Anonymous
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>>137945
The show was always a commercial for a toy line, but s3 is definitely where it started its rapid decline due to a lack of care on part of the staff and heavy handed executive meddling.
Anonymous
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For me the show fluctuated in quality but was almost always fun to watch, and I had fun. It stopped being fun and more of a chore around half way into season six, and I stopped almost immediately but for whatever reason I still stick around and force myself to try and watch a episode or premier. I think it stops being good when it stops being fun, it doesn’t feel like a cute ponies doing cute things but a political commercial for toys. But IMMO
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Many say season 3 but for me it had to be season 6. Sure season 3 wasn't the grandest season ever with only 13 episodes and a forced last episode that made no sense, I thought seasons 4 and 5 were still a fun time. They were more serious than seasons 1 and 2 but there were still plenty of enjoyable episodes with the mane six still retaining what made them them I really loved the season 5 opener where they fucking denounced communism, a real redpill to many girls everywhere I think . Season 6 though was an absolute trainwreck with new writers that no idea on the source material they were working with, making Glimglam from a character with possible potential into a boring soulless mary sue who has WAY more power than she should, episodes that contradict shit that happened earlier in the show's life, many episodes were boring as fuck, etc. Season 7 was a slight improvement but it was still a trainwreck and I still havent forgot the episode where the writers fucking trash their own fanbase cause "cmon give us a chance, we are working so hard" Now the show is leftist propaganda that completely forgot all that it was and should be shot to be put out of its misery.

Gas the writers, Faust did nothing wrong!
Anonymous
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>>138084
Couldn’t have said it better myself
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episode 100 and the demon baby
Anonymous
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>>138084
What can i tell you, the new staff it's...

Mike Vogel, producer, racist comments: https://media.8ch.net/file_store/cfe1b0d12db490933a06267bbc8f7949417e511c5d71fe4b1a169d96a2fb15f7.png
The Shape of Water endorsement, a film with pedophilic undertones: https://media.8ch.net/file_store/a29a30f2cbb53a3d0f9911bf958e5e5896632ccd7caf4d9823f2605401b62519.png
Stupid, divisive comment, but pretty par for the course for this guy: https://media.8ch.net/file_store/a1fb003bdeebada62229fd33c5f25bbac93d9725a864d9bd9e2e2ba3998a6be1.png
Lead producer mocking the President's daughter: https://media.8ch.net/file_store/d82fd3361ce64aa9292c3b5304e6a27b9d33d82433000a49012cce402e4759aa.png
Writer mocking Christians, now. I'm seriously asking... Hasbro, why would any of us not living on the coasts want our kids to watch your show when the people making the show are hateful? https://media.8ch.net/file_store/2a60293af6bc53754cfab65db57bad1dd888aebaab47106132076be159f2956d.png
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>>138114
No wonder the show is sucking so much.
I look back and my interest in the show tanked HARD halfway through season 7.
Anonymous
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>>138115
The most interesting part of this is that pretty much all the links has been deleted.
Just go to the links at the end of the petition.

https://www.change.org/p/hasbro-remove-cultural-marxism-bad-storytellers-and-hateful-staff-from-my-little-pony-or-we-boycott
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>>138116
I actually did sign that petition.
I got on the ride just before the start of Season 2.
Now I want off. It sucks. It hurts. I'll just watch 1-6 and half of seven.
Anonymous
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>>138117
If you have watched enough series, you should noticed that before the season six opener, everything will go in decline.
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after*
Anonymous
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>>138114
I want MLP to just end now. I want it to die with dignity and honor instead of barely surviving as a brittle weak shell of itself but who am I kidding, even if it was killed off, leftist would find a way to revive it and kill it even more. I want a total cleansing of leftists from the media and everything else.
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>>137945

It was about when the Brony Civil War broke out in early 2013 after Alicorn Twilight and Equestria Girls were revealed just weeks after eachother. Two different seriously controversial things.
I wouldn't be able to tell you if the war ever "ended", but it was the death knell. Season 2 might have been the peak for the fandom and it slowly gets worse after that, despite season 4 and 5 being pretty great.

Now this is debatable, but both of those turned out alright in the end. Being a Princess didn't really do much to Twilight's character other than her participating in some royal duties every so often, and Equestria Girls might outlast FiM itself if it stays popular enough. Sunset Shimmer is a great character too. Widely loved.
it's just sad it had to happen this way.
Let FiM die, kill it if you have to. Before it becomes poisoned with left-wing influences after staying apolitical for so long.
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>>138162
We don't know how things would've turned out. Yes, I had my hopes after "One Bad Apple" - still consider Babs Seed and all of its remixes best piece ever done in the fandom. Seeing how it all epxanded. And then, yeah.... all of this. Even now 4/mlp/ is getting consumed in EqG vs FiM war... quality of actual episodes is.. yeah... well and overall atmosphere around the brand.
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>>138130
Let's hope the season 8 opener end up being the only one that way...
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>>138084
Frankly I loved Fame and Misfortune because the fanbase deserved to be insulted like that. The episode was right.
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>>138962
This, I enjoyed it.
Based MA Larson, always best writer.
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I stopped watching right before the end of season 5 and never got around to catching up. I've even talked about wanting to catch up on this site. After seeing what the last couple of seasons have been like though, I'm glad I didn't. It's like Spongebob and The Fairly Oddparents although Spongebob eventually became good again: it was an excellent show for the first few seasons, but it's run its course and keeping it alive is doing more harm than good to its reputation. Just let it die.

>>138162
>"Before it becomes poisoned with left-wing influences after staying apolitical for so long."
The writers (and voice actors, for that matter) have definitely passed the point of "dying as a hero", so to speak. 'Member when Faust just wanted to make a good show for girls and their parents with relatable role models?
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>>139039
I also said I was going to do this.
However even watching season 1 makes me cringe a bit at this point knowing what comes later.
It was an alright show, but there just wasn't enough plot for me.
Spongebob got good again? What season? How did I not know about this?
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>>139121
I haven’t watched it myself, but from what I’ve heard from people who still watch Spongebob, Shephen Hillenburg (the show’s original creator) came back in season 10 as executive producer and the quality went up significantly. It’s not as good as the early seasons, but it’s the best it’s been in a long time.
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>>139169
(by the way I’m >>139039, just phoneposting now)
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>>138962
>>138970
Nice shill attempt, now explain why you think it's ok when the SJWs that run this show insult the fans that kept MLPFIM around and profitable long enough for the jews to start ruining it or I'll report your samefagging ass.
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>>138962
>>138970
Not surprised I didn't get a response in 3 hours.

By the way, the episode that aired wasn't the one Larson wrote, watch the interview about it.
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>>139295
Its called work, Muhammed. Sorry you're unfamiliar with it.
Now go back to fucking children or splashing acid on chicks.
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>>139295
>Not surprised I didn't get a response in 3 hours.
Calm down man, mlpol is slow. You're responding to a 20 hour old post. At least wait until a full 24 hours is up before you complain about no response.
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>>137953
I personally say so that that the original show, without corporate decisions in their story like Twilicorn, ended by s2 finale or even s3, but even with it's mistakes, s4 and s5 managed to maintain properly after all the damage control. Hell, for me, s5 achieves to get in the same level as s1 and 2. It has chapters with amazing quality that remark some of the best of the show in my opinion.

I feel that the writing declining, as you remarked with the new hollow writers, it's exactly in the s5 finale "The Cutie Remark", with the forced and rushed plot of Starlight Glimmer being redeemed after all she did. After that came the problems of s6, with now having Glimmer episodes, with lackluster development, flanderized characters, season premieres, finales and the overall story becoming more meaningless and dull in the process, etc., the usual thing after a show goes for too long. At least s7 recovered the show for a while, but s8 seems to suffer the same as s6.
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I like you, and yes, S4 and S5 had some great episodes. The writers tried their best to make things work with the mandates given to them, and I really liked the "The map says go here so let's go here" episodes at first, before it was used as a blatant hand of the writers to get two characters into a specific location because "Well those background ponies need an episode I guess".
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>>137945
The show has always been shit, anon. Doom gloom destruction whatever just kill yourself already or just go be miserable
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I really cannot get how "Fame and misfortune" premise can be taken as a good one, i mean, the official sipnosis it says that the staff dosen't care about the character development, coherence with previous episodes, and overall quality of the show, but only on the friendship lessons, calling everyone who does care about the quality of theit product, as idiots.
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Hasdrones aren't bronies, they're cancerous leeches on society Hasbro loves because they throw money and views at Hasbro no matter what.

Hasdrones hate any suggestion that they might be wrong or have shit tastes, so an episode patting the nu-writers on the back while insulting the "Ungrateful fans" is like pure sex to them. It's validation to them, the only thing better than their fantasies where they go to Equestria and get to be shit people like Glimmer and get forgiven like Glimmer.
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>>140924
The map dynamic is one of the reasons why s6 was so lackluster: They had story opportunities that were wasted because they didn't get to explore more unknown and different places over Equestria that could be interesting to develop (s7 did that more) or change the character interaction from just a pair to three ponies or even just one, make something to show us how characters behave in unknown and noteworthy places. You know, make something with the map that's worth to see.
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>>141077
At least we got to see Las Pegasus.
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>>141039
I have wonder to myself, how and when the mayority of the people start liking so bad movies, tv shows and stupid political views.
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>>139039
>Spongebob became good

Explain. I’m interested.
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>>141668
>that pic
I have my eye on you.
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>>141080
I wouldn’t say that honestly. Check out Rosanne a show that got MILLIONS of views despite being the main character being a Trump supporter. Media hates it. But America loves it. Hell, it even shocked Hollywood.
>Mfw Hollywood will make a blatent anti-consertive movie and ends up failing proving that liberalism is nothing but a joke at this current state of politics
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>>141675
Just how conservative is that show? I looked at a synopsis and it has details like "guy died in Iraq; x is gay" that make it feel more left wing
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>>141676
Anything that doesn't praise Marxism is to the right now.
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>>141078
I wish we saw more of it, but all we saw was one gambling area switch hooves from Douchey McDouche to two existing characters I'm glad we never saw again because these new writers would seriously fuck them up.
>>141080
Shit is shoveled down our throats and it slowly gets worse. You either get used to it and start singing along, while also smiling whenever some less-shitty shit from 2 years ago is presented to you, or you reject the feeding trough and get criticized by the pigs for being "Picky".
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>>141683
I’m just wondering. Once people starts realizing that liberalism is bad and move back to conservatives, will things go bad for conservatives and be the next liberalism?
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>>141675
Well, it is like an "oasis", but really, Halo 6 taked as the best in the series, mlp main view is that it has become far better than back in season 2, the fucking shape of water.
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Am pretty sure it's gonna happend, but nothing as dangerous as what we are seeing today on the left, why? because since it is static(and it works), it is then impossible for it to keep deteriorating like liberalism has, you know, it started with the simple idea of human dignity in the roman empire, and it end up in our current state.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cPembXZMKv0
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>>138099
>episode 100
This.
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>>141761
Of course not. Conservativism is about wanting to conserve the values that got you where you are and made your race and culture successful. It's about standing up, being a man, and rejecting the easy ways out like liberalism and communism. Brainless normies might be annoying when they try to sound conservative to impress us, but at least they aren't instead trying to sound liberal to impress the SJWs.

SJW needs to be removed from its seat of power over the government and culture. We're the edgy fun moral counterculture and we like being edgy fun and moral. As long as we remember our reasons for being who we are, nobody can ever ruin it for us.

Remember, right-wing normies don't ruin right-wingism. Right-wing memes ruin normies for liberals and liberalism for normies.
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>>142627
If that conservatism is that kind of conservatism that conserves what it works then yes, and even if is a conservatism of the bad kind, that at least have defined frontiers besides the unstopeable liberalism that have not degeneracy limits.
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>>139295
>By the way, the episode that aired wasn't the one Larson wrote
It's blatantly obvious as soon as you hear the "Flawless" song.
Compare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU3fCXKr_-U
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB1rFbLOhwE
Notice anything weird?
Bump it up to 1.25 speed and listen to it again.
It's been intentionally slowed down to fit into the episode.

From all the edits this episode took, it's likely they still had about a few minutes left after it's conclusion, so they artificially slowed the song down and added more non-dialogue scenes where they could in order to fit the time slot.
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>>142889
I hear the original episode was all "Yeah, we're silly and we fuck up sometimes but we're trying" and the nu-staff turned it into "Fuck you, bronies, fuck you if you like fluttershy, you're an old hag if you hate wings, criticism is an evil thing, and you're a toxic fanbase because you argue over stuff, just shut up and accept it like the little girls we imagine loving our show!"
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>>142594
Nah, 100th eppy was literally the high-point of the entire property, old and new.
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