Translation from: https://www.ouest-france.fr/societe/racisme/racisme-edouard-philippe-promet-un-systeme-de-pre-plainte-en-ligne-avant-l-ete-5631191
The french law will be amended to "strengthen the obligations of detection, reporting, deletion and prevention of illegal content" on the internet, announced the Prime Minister, Monday, March 19, presenting the new plan of the executive against racism and anti-semitism.
"All united against hatred". This is the leitmotiv displayed on monday morning by the Prime Minister, who presented the new government plan against racism and anti-semitism at the National Museum of the History of Immigration in Paris. French law will be amended "to strenghten the obligations of detection, reporting, deletion and prevention of illegal content" on the Internet, said Edouard Philippe.
As announced by Emmanuel Macron in early March, France will also "fight" for a legislative project at the European level forcing operators of the net, including social networks, to quickly remove the "torrent of mud" content "hate, racist or anti-semitic", confirmed the head of the government. This European plan, "we are not going to be content to hope for it. We have to fight. And we will fight", he assured.
But "without waiting" for the completion of this community project, the national legislation will be modified. "We have room for maneuver. Margins that strengthen bonds", said Philippe. Announced for months, this second plan (2018-2020) follows a first device launched in a context of surge of anti-semitic and anti-muslim acts after the attacks of January 2015.
"I will never be made to believe that social networks are spaces above ground. For me, everything that is published and broadcoast in France, is published and broadcast in France. And must therefore meet the laws of the Republic", said the Prime Minister, surrounded by eight members of the government. "What annoys me is that nowadays, it seems easier to remove the pirate video of a football game than antisemitic remarks", he insisted.
A mission entrusted to the Franco-Algerian teacher Karim Amellal, to the deputy LREM Laetitia Avia and the vice-president of the Crif (Representative Council of Jewish institutions of France) Gil Taïeb who will work on these legislative changes.
Considered: heavy fines, like in Germany, against social networks that do not remove hate speech within 24 hours, the "closure of the accounts having disseminated massively and repeatedly" hate speech. Or "the survey under pseudonym" of cyber-investigators on online chat rooms. This last measure will be included in the draft law on justice to be presented in the Council of Ministers on April 18th.
As already mentioned by Edouard Philippe, the possibility will be studied to allow a complainant to qualify himself the motive racist or anti-semitic of his aggression, as in the United Kingdom. "We need victims to complain. Without complaint, no investigation, no manager, no penalty. By the end of the semester, we will make operational an online pre-complaint system for racist and antisemitic offenses", he promised.
To better take into account the victims, the state will experiment in September to create a network of investigators and magistrates specifically trained in the fight against hate.
With the fight against cyberhate in need of additional resources, the government is also planning to strengthen the staff of the PHAROS illicit content reporting platform. Similarly, people sentenced to community service work could be assigned to associations to moderate and report hate speech.
Finally, on the educational aspect, the plan provides for the creation of a "national response team" to assist teachers and field workers confronted with conflict situations.
While welcoming "the fact that the government has focused" on hatred on the internet, the president of the Consistory Israelite, Joel Mergui, regretted that this topic is dissociated from the fight against Islamist radicalization. "Even if the fight against racism and anti-semitism requires other means, it is an integral part of this fight", he said. The president of the Representative Council of Jewish Institutions in France (Crif), Francis Kalifat, said it's "important to expand this fight on a European scale". But "what we would have wanted is an announcement that goes a step further and draws more heavily from what Germany has done", he continued.
As for Samuel Thomas, of the anti-racist association "Maison des potes", he took note of a plan that "goes in the right direction". "Now, the stalking of racist or anti-semitic speech, it requires much more means than what is today", he said.
This plan will benefit from "protected means", according to Edouard Philippe, even if a state inspection mission could only indentify 40 million euros of the 100 announced in 2015 under the first device. "It is a priority policy, it is preserved", said the interministerial delegate to the fight against racism and anti-semitism (Dilcrah), Frédéric Potier.
The number of hate incidents declined in 2017 for the second year in a row in France. But this global decline masks the increase in the number of violent actions. And the statistics do not reflect the "surge of hatred that is expressed daily on the internet," according to the Prime Minister.
To make it short, the french government want to put in place a system of denunciation against racism online and they hope the European union will follow. It's just censorship and they obviously want to take our money by heavy fines. The "funny" thing is that in France, it's easy to be a racist.
>be against islam, quotes the qoran and say it's a bad thing => racism
>claim there is too much migrants in France => racism
>complain about the algerian flags in the street during the national holiday => racism
>etc
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>>130299
Free speech is truly dead in Europe.
State censorship is starting to become the norm.
The EU is the new Soviet.
Free speech is truly dead in Europe.
State censorship is starting to become the norm.
The EU is the new Soviet.
>>130299
This news is very depressing.
>presenting the new plan of the executive against racism and anti-semitism.
>anti-semitism
No fighting to end anti-Catholicism, or anti other religions. Nope. More of this "rules for thee but not for me" shit. Always in favor of the jews.
Every
fucking
time
This news is very depressing.
>presenting the new plan of the executive against racism and anti-semitism.
>anti-semitism
No fighting to end anti-Catholicism, or anti other religions. Nope. More of this "rules for thee but not for me" shit. Always in favor of the jews.
Every
fucking
time
Wow, alright then. I didn't think it would happen this quickly. I mean, maybe it was naïve of me but I always thought that Europe would last until after my lifetime. Fuck.
>>130387
Dudes.. .you can get fined for complimenting woman's look, because it counts as harassment (french anons plz confirm, might be fake&gay rumor).
Daily reminder,
come home white man.
Dudes.. .you can get fined for complimenting woman's look, because it counts as harassment (french anons plz confirm, might be fake&gay rumor).
Daily reminder,
come home white man.
>>130388
It is a downward spiral into Communism, but I have hopes for the US. You have a strong community that is willing to hold on to the principles that without freedom there is only oppression. You have media that is willing to call out those who deny people freedom of speech. Much of Europe has gone too far and we have a big struggle ahead of us to regain the freedoms that leftists and communists have taken away. Our press is talking the party line, and is working as the propaganda machinery for the leftists. I sometimes wish we had been under soviet rule, as it looks like those countries are the only one in Europe that understands the value of freedom.
It is a downward spiral into Communism, but I have hopes for the US. You have a strong community that is willing to hold on to the principles that without freedom there is only oppression. You have media that is willing to call out those who deny people freedom of speech. Much of Europe has gone too far and we have a big struggle ahead of us to regain the freedoms that leftists and communists have taken away. Our press is talking the party line, and is working as the propaganda machinery for the leftists. I sometimes wish we had been under soviet rule, as it looks like those countries are the only one in Europe that understands the value of freedom.
>>130376
That's the fucking hilarious thing. After the terrorist attack against Charlie Hebdo, people were like "I'm Charlie, people have the right of speech!" while some muslims were more like "they deserved it". Now, the same people who claimed to be "Charlie" are the same who will abuse this system of denunciation.
>>130369
>>130301
Yeah, in France, when people talk about racism, they always say "racism and anti-semitism", to mark and show "this is not the same thing". Some people complains about it, others don't react because they're used to this. Sometime, I think people in France react like if we were guilty of being nazis when you see the jew obsessions and claiming that they need help or whatever.
>>130389
Yeah, there is a campaign since a few years against the "street harassment". What's that? If you try to talk to a girl in the street, it can be treated as "street harassment". It depend if the girl was ok for you to talk to her or not. To put it short, it's just some salty crazy bitch that hate white people and the REAL problem with the "street harassment" is the africans migrants who actually harass people. Like there was this fat girl who walked in the street and a group of them asked to the fat girl if she could suck their dicks for a twix or a macdo.
>>130396
Lower wages but the cost of living is also lower. I don't really know a lot about Poland except it is a beautiful country and they have problem with a lot of death on the road because of alcohol.
That's the fucking hilarious thing. After the terrorist attack against Charlie Hebdo, people were like "I'm Charlie, people have the right of speech!" while some muslims were more like "they deserved it". Now, the same people who claimed to be "Charlie" are the same who will abuse this system of denunciation.
>>130369
>>130301
Yeah, in France, when people talk about racism, they always say "racism and anti-semitism", to mark and show "this is not the same thing". Some people complains about it, others don't react because they're used to this. Sometime, I think people in France react like if we were guilty of being nazis when you see the jew obsessions and claiming that they need help or whatever.
>>130389
Yeah, there is a campaign since a few years against the "street harassment". What's that? If you try to talk to a girl in the street, it can be treated as "street harassment". It depend if the girl was ok for you to talk to her or not. To put it short, it's just some salty crazy bitch that hate white people and the REAL problem with the "street harassment" is the africans migrants who actually harass people. Like there was this fat girl who walked in the street and a group of them asked to the fat girl if she could suck their dicks for a twix or a macdo.
>>130396
Lower wages but the cost of living is also lower. I don't really know a lot about Poland except it is a beautiful country and they have problem with a lot of death on the road because of alcohol.
>>130389
I dunno, I like the idea but don't poles beat the shit out of foreigners? I can understand why but if I learned polish, which is hear is a bitch of a language to learn, and because I'm mostly white (at least 75% white about), would they beat the shit out of me?
I dunno, I like the idea but don't poles beat the shit out of foreigners? I can understand why but if I learned polish, which is hear is a bitch of a language to learn, and because I'm mostly white (at least 75% white about), would they beat the shit out of me?
>>130498
Mainly native american Cherokee and Shawnee genetics though its very hard to tell that I have any traits of those genes since the white genes dominate the majority of the injuin genes. My skin is slightly tanned but thats it.
Mainly native american Cherokee and Shawnee genetics though its very hard to tell that I have any traits of those genes since the white genes dominate the majority of the injuin genes. My skin is slightly tanned but thats it.
>>130501
That's probably good enough for Poland. I doubt you'd pass as native, but I'm betting it wouldn't be even remotely close to as big an issue as language and accent
That's probably good enough for Poland. I doubt you'd pass as native, but I'm betting it wouldn't be even remotely close to as big an issue as language and accent
>>130502
This, I hear polish is a tricky language though admittedly I've have zero exposure to the language but that probably makes it even harder to learn maybe. But Poland is one of the last few nations that hasn't had their heads up the leftist ideology's ass thanks to years of oppressive communism so it would more than pay off I'd imagine.
This, I hear polish is a tricky language though admittedly I've have zero exposure to the language but that probably makes it even harder to learn maybe. But Poland is one of the last few nations that hasn't had their heads up the leftist ideology's ass thanks to years of oppressive communism so it would more than pay off I'd imagine.
>>130299
I wonder what the French revolutionaries would have thought about all this if they could see their country today. Because this really is basically just the re-establishment of the aristocracy under a different name. The times change but the problems stay the same. Time to break out the guillotines, France.
I wonder what the French revolutionaries would have thought about all this if they could see their country today. Because this really is basically just the re-establishment of the aristocracy under a different name. The times change but the problems stay the same. Time to break out the guillotines, France.
>>130514
Well, to say the truth, my opinion about the french revolution isn't a good one. To me, the revolution was made in Paris and it was the philosophers and bourgeois behind it. The philosophers for the revolution/ideas or whatever, the bourgeois so they can have power instead of the noble. The french people just wanted the end of the famine while the "revolutionaries" just wanted to kill the king. It was just a fight for power, nothing else, the revolution was just a way to bring people in the struggle for power.
You might think that's my opinion but seriously, France was in a civil war because a lot of faction weren't ok, it was really bloody while the king just tried to calm down everyone and end up to the guillotine because he was too soft for his own good.
Before the parisians revolution, we were under the absolute monarchy (the king had all the powers), then the revolution happens. We started with the constitutional monarchy (see, the kind didn't die immediately), the first republic (the king got a new haircut), the first empire (hello Napoléon), the first restoration (return to the constitutional monarchy, yup, we went back to the kings after the emperor, right after the revolution), the Hundred days (return of Napoléon), second restoration (again, constitutional monarchy), the July monarchy (there was a lot of fight for power), the second republic, the second empire, the third republic, then the second world war happened, the fourth republic and now we are in the fifht republic.
What I see after the "french" revolution is just a century full of struggle for power, republic, empire and monarchy that everyone doesn't even talk about it. We learn it in school, we learn about the revolution as a good thing but we don't question it. We don't wonder why the whole shit after the revolution happened. People actually fought because they were hungry and wanted something to change so they can eat, the philosophers and the bourgeoisies wanted the power or bring an ideology. So yeah, I'm not surprised to see the politicians trying to control and earn more powers, deciding for us what is good or bad.
Well, to say the truth, my opinion about the french revolution isn't a good one. To me, the revolution was made in Paris and it was the philosophers and bourgeois behind it. The philosophers for the revolution/ideas or whatever, the bourgeois so they can have power instead of the noble. The french people just wanted the end of the famine while the "revolutionaries" just wanted to kill the king. It was just a fight for power, nothing else, the revolution was just a way to bring people in the struggle for power.
You might think that's my opinion but seriously, France was in a civil war because a lot of faction weren't ok, it was really bloody while the king just tried to calm down everyone and end up to the guillotine because he was too soft for his own good.
Before the parisians revolution, we were under the absolute monarchy (the king had all the powers), then the revolution happens. We started with the constitutional monarchy (see, the kind didn't die immediately), the first republic (the king got a new haircut), the first empire (hello Napoléon), the first restoration (return to the constitutional monarchy, yup, we went back to the kings after the emperor, right after the revolution), the Hundred days (return of Napoléon), second restoration (again, constitutional monarchy), the July monarchy (there was a lot of fight for power), the second republic, the second empire, the third republic, then the second world war happened, the fourth republic and now we are in the fifht republic.
What I see after the "french" revolution is just a century full of struggle for power, republic, empire and monarchy that everyone doesn't even talk about it. We learn it in school, we learn about the revolution as a good thing but we don't question it. We don't wonder why the whole shit after the revolution happened. People actually fought because they were hungry and wanted something to change so they can eat, the philosophers and the bourgeoisies wanted the power or bring an ideology. So yeah, I'm not surprised to see the politicians trying to control and earn more powers, deciding for us what is good or bad.
>>130527
My main thing here is that all this change throughout Europe seems like the aristocrats of all those old monarchies taking over again. With taxation redefined as fines for "hate crimes", the stripping of liberty in the name security, and dictating law while making themselves exempt.
Noble, politician, more and more I'm starting to see no difference between the two, at least within the left leaning parties, they certainly don't conduct themselves as public servants like they're supposed to. We can all agree that they're traitors to their own people and deserve a haircut on that fact alone, I worry that the longer this goes on, the more likely it is that armed revolt is the only way we're going to be able to reverse all this.
My main thing here is that all this change throughout Europe seems like the aristocrats of all those old monarchies taking over again. With taxation redefined as fines for "hate crimes", the stripping of liberty in the name security, and dictating law while making themselves exempt.
Noble, politician, more and more I'm starting to see no difference between the two, at least within the left leaning parties, they certainly don't conduct themselves as public servants like they're supposed to. We can all agree that they're traitors to their own people and deserve a haircut on that fact alone, I worry that the longer this goes on, the more likely it is that armed revolt is the only way we're going to be able to reverse all this.
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