Anarcho-Communism is objectively what the Wasteland needs. Littlepip is a Capitalist dog whose horse and buggy ideology will lead to Equestria making the same mistakes the did 200 years prior.
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>>10800
I would read a fallout equestria spinoff about someone trying to manage filly actually well. If Red Eye could have faked community he would have made it
I would read a fallout equestria spinoff about someone trying to manage filly actually well. If Red Eye could have faked community he would have made it
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>>10800
But Anon, Littlepip is the Anarchist. She wanted to tear down what Red Eye was trying to build, a stable economy for a new, educated generation to take over in order to revive Equestria as a country and nation, just because she disagreed with the methodology.
Red Eye had huge plans to cleanse the Everfree forest of it's contaminants and most dangerous of flora and fauna within using unfinished pre-war tech. The sheer amount of lumber need to create housing, shelter and new communities for those willing to work for it, was all right there. An armed force was well within maintainable levels for the safety of all citizens as well considering that Filly had running factories making ammo and weapons, which also could have then been re-purposed later down the line. Huge swaths of the original city and theme park had been torn down to repurpose much of the material in the first place.
By breaking down the old Equestria that ponies so foolishly sought to bring back, a NEW equestria could be made.
TL;DR read your horse fiction more autisticly, NERD. Littlepip should have seen where she went wrong and joined Red Eye in Making Equestria Great Again.
But Anon, Littlepip is the Anarchist. She wanted to tear down what Red Eye was trying to build, a stable economy for a new, educated generation to take over in order to revive Equestria as a country and nation, just because she disagreed with the methodology.
Red Eye had huge plans to cleanse the Everfree forest of it's contaminants and most dangerous of flora and fauna within using unfinished pre-war tech. The sheer amount of lumber need to create housing, shelter and new communities for those willing to work for it, was all right there. An armed force was well within maintainable levels for the safety of all citizens as well considering that Filly had running factories making ammo and weapons, which also could have then been re-purposed later down the line. Huge swaths of the original city and theme park had been torn down to repurpose much of the material in the first place.
By breaking down the old Equestria that ponies so foolishly sought to bring back, a NEW equestria could be made.
TL;DR read your horse fiction more autisticly, NERD. Littlepip should have seen where she went wrong and joined Red Eye in Making Equestria Great Again.
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>>11003
Lesbian horses.
Homage runs the radio stations in the Wastes. LittlePip has the Pipbuck cutie mark.
Little Pip is an unfettered self righteous dweeb that gets addicted to mind-enhancing substances. She kills A LOT of ponies/non-ponies without much remorse.
Lesbian horses.
Homage runs the radio stations in the Wastes. LittlePip has the Pipbuck cutie mark.
Little Pip is an unfettered self righteous dweeb that gets addicted to mind-enhancing substances. She kills A LOT of ponies/non-ponies without much remorse.
>>10800
anarcho communism can never be a solution, because it is against pony and human nature.
>>>/mlleftypol/
anarcho communism can never be a solution, because it is against pony and human nature.
>>>/mlleftypol/
>>11036
I would loosely define myself as an Anarchist in the traditional definition. I think an un-elected government run like an administration of qualified people is a good way to go. I also believe that violence is never a solution. Unfortunately most people define anarchist with chaos because they have never really studied it.
I would loosely define myself as an Anarchist in the traditional definition. I think an un-elected government run like an administration of qualified people is a good way to go. I also believe that violence is never a solution. Unfortunately most people define anarchist with chaos because they have never really studied it.
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>>10800
I never read any of the fallout equestria stuff. The reason being i dont care about the fallout games theres too much to read. they have several books out by now and from what i heard the quality of the writing is faily low.
Also the main character is a lesbian ever since they removed Blackjack over petty arguments with an important author. I don't really need any of that.
I never read any of the fallout equestria stuff. The reason being i dont care about the fallout games theres too much to read. they have several books out by now and from what i heard the quality of the writing is faily low.
Also the main character is a lesbian ever since they removed Blackjack over petty arguments with an important author. I don't really need any of that.
>>11063
>project horizons
I read the original, Heroes, WEcon, PH and Murky before I ever played a single fallout game. Enjoyed them just fine.
>project horizons
I read the original, Heroes, WEcon, PH and Murky before I ever played a single fallout game. Enjoyed them just fine.
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>>11003
May contain spoilers:
Homage is the true mastermind behind Pips destruction of the only working industry in Equestria, feeding off her insecurities by immediately offering herself as a possible girlfriend, giving Pip and avenue to open up, sadly, to a manipulator.
Homage manipulates Pip by reinforcing Pip's already rigid and biased sense of right and wrong, pushing the same narrative of how terrible and unforgivable Red Eye is because muh slavery. Pip is also not the first to fall prey to this; she was the last. Many before Pip found themselves in the Wasteland, searching for meaning and happiness in a world lacking both in dire amounts. Even with Watcher offering that original guidance and advice on both personal safety, and the importance of having friends, it was ponies like Homage and DJ PON3, her alter ego, who lead intrepid young adventurers down the path of danger, self destruction, and in some cases insanity.
Watcher essentially admits that many past wasteland heroes either, Gave Up, Died, Went Insane, or Turned Bad because they couldn't come to grips with a world that they couldn't fix on their own, or even with a few friends. No doubt some of those heroes had to watch friends of theirs die on occasion.
Back to Homage, her unique position having replaced the previous guy allows her to spread her personal views as something more common and benevolent by also including legitimate information on staying safe in the Wasteland. Gun maintenance, survival skills, where to find food and water, what places to avoid in terms of radiation or Taint/IMP.
It's well known that she lies in order to "tell the truth," by her own word in fact. Keeping her identity hidden is how she gets away with her propaganda, but you should also care to notice that the Twilight Society are never mentioned by her, and she isn't hounded by them to change her messages in any way save to prevent unwanted attention.
Element of Honesty my fucking asshole.
(Most of this post was paraphrased from another anon's theory)
May contain spoilers:
Homage is the true mastermind behind Pips destruction of the only working industry in Equestria, feeding off her insecurities by immediately offering herself as a possible girlfriend, giving Pip and avenue to open up, sadly, to a manipulator.
Homage manipulates Pip by reinforcing Pip's already rigid and biased sense of right and wrong, pushing the same narrative of how terrible and unforgivable Red Eye is because muh slavery. Pip is also not the first to fall prey to this; she was the last. Many before Pip found themselves in the Wasteland, searching for meaning and happiness in a world lacking both in dire amounts. Even with Watcher offering that original guidance and advice on both personal safety, and the importance of having friends, it was ponies like Homage and DJ PON3, her alter ego, who lead intrepid young adventurers down the path of danger, self destruction, and in some cases insanity.
Watcher essentially admits that many past wasteland heroes either, Gave Up, Died, Went Insane, or Turned Bad because they couldn't come to grips with a world that they couldn't fix on their own, or even with a few friends. No doubt some of those heroes had to watch friends of theirs die on occasion.
Back to Homage, her unique position having replaced the previous guy allows her to spread her personal views as something more common and benevolent by also including legitimate information on staying safe in the Wasteland. Gun maintenance, survival skills, where to find food and water, what places to avoid in terms of radiation or Taint/IMP.
It's well known that she lies in order to "tell the truth," by her own word in fact. Keeping her identity hidden is how she gets away with her propaganda, but you should also care to notice that the Twilight Society are never mentioned by her, and she isn't hounded by them to change her messages in any way save to prevent unwanted attention.
Element of Honesty my fucking asshole.
(Most of this post was paraphrased from another anon's theory)
>>11195
Conservative AF Russian brony here. I've read FO:E twice and even own a physical copy.
Can confirm that FO:E doesn't force left-wing morality. Kkat (the author) is quite adequate in her position - she is a bit left-leaning but not in any way SJW retarded.
I had discussions with her, read many blogposts and despite my concerns that I had after beinng redpilled she is a really good and reasonable person. One of the examples on this can be a post about new Ghostbusters where she, unlike Lauren Faust, didn't bitch about "muh racism" or "muh feminism" and said that the movie was awful.
You may read safely without fear, you won't become a SJW cuckold.
P.S. Main character being a lesbian doesn't hurt the story and is not forced or edgy - it's well implemented.
Conservative AF Russian brony here. I've read FO:E twice and even own a physical copy.
Can confirm that FO:E doesn't force left-wing morality. Kkat (the author) is quite adequate in her position - she is a bit left-leaning but not in any way SJW retarded.
I had discussions with her, read many blogposts and despite my concerns that I had after beinng redpilled she is a really good and reasonable person. One of the examples on this can be a post about new Ghostbusters where she, unlike Lauren Faust, didn't bitch about "muh racism" or "muh feminism" and said that the movie was awful.
You may read safely without fear, you won't become a SJW cuckold.
P.S. Main character being a lesbian doesn't hurt the story and is not forced or edgy - it's well implemented.
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>six billion pages long edgy fallout fanfic with lesbian pastel colored horses
Don't you people have anything better to read in your spare time? This is worrisome.
Don't you people have anything better to read in your spare time? This is worrisome.
Red Eye is surely an interesting character, I liked him a lot as a character. He is far from being one dimensional villain I expected him to be when I was reading the book first.
I even caught myself sympathizing him a lot toward the end of the book. He really could've built a new Equestria and he was ready to sacrifice himself for this not only the slaves and followers. And I'm quite sure that Littlepip would have saved him if not the… eh… unfortunate consequences.
I even caught myself sympathizing him a lot toward the end of the book. He really could've built a new Equestria and he was ready to sacrifice himself for this not only the slaves and followers. And I'm quite sure that Littlepip would have saved him if not the… eh… unfortunate consequences.
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>>11839
That's the best thing about it - it's not edgy.
Despite being a subproduct of two universes it stands really well on its own and has a well-written and working universe with some great character development.
Knowing the Fallout universe helps a lot to appreciate all the effort from the author, so many things done right in terms of lore and atmosphere (look angrily at F3 and F4).
That's the best thing about it - it's not edgy.
Despite being a subproduct of two universes it stands really well on its own and has a well-written and working universe with some great character development.
Knowing the Fallout universe helps a lot to appreciate all the effort from the author, so many things done right in terms of lore and atmosphere (look angrily at F3 and F4).
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>>11815
what do you mean from where? The Internet.
>>11837
>Main character being a lesbian doesn't hurt the story and is not forced or edgy
I dunno about that man. The Lesbian/Homage thing felt a little forced. It just sort of happened. Like, immediately. Pretty sure Homage basically says "I might be interested." when Pip says "I need to find a mare."
It just happens suddenly. Boom, relationship + excessive orgasm jokes.
>>11847
I think there's some debate about the edginess actually. Most of the raiders in FoE are just murderfags with no purpose. Only Blood, Daff and that one bitch later on after the Enclave attack showed any sense of personality besides aggressive and angry. Real shame too because some of the side fics show off some really cool and interesting Raider characters, MN7 comes to mind first of course.
But here's a little pic of a raider I came up with. Nasty little bitch who's got a thing for animals and training them.
what do you mean from where? The Internet.
>>11837
>Main character being a lesbian doesn't hurt the story and is not forced or edgy
I dunno about that man. The Lesbian/Homage thing felt a little forced. It just sort of happened. Like, immediately. Pretty sure Homage basically says "I might be interested." when Pip says "I need to find a mare."
It just happens suddenly. Boom, relationship + excessive orgasm jokes.
>>11847
I think there's some debate about the edginess actually. Most of the raiders in FoE are just murderfags with no purpose. Only Blood, Daff and that one bitch later on after the Enclave attack showed any sense of personality besides aggressive and angry. Real shame too because some of the side fics show off some really cool and interesting Raider characters, MN7 comes to mind first of course.
But here's a little pic of a raider I came up with. Nasty little bitch who's got a thing for animals and training them.
>>11853
> It just happens suddenly. Boom, relationship + excessive orgasm jokes.
I can fully agree about relationship. It was sudden, out of the blue and kinda forced. Doesn't make it any less emotional in the end, though.
But Littlepip being lesbian from the beginning was well implemented - her obsession with Velvet Remedy, not being interested in guys, staring at flanks. There were many examples of that before Homage.
> It just happens suddenly. Boom, relationship + excessive orgasm jokes.
I can fully agree about relationship. It was sudden, out of the blue and kinda forced. Doesn't make it any less emotional in the end, though.
But Littlepip being lesbian from the beginning was well implemented - her obsession with Velvet Remedy, not being interested in guys, staring at flanks. There were many examples of that before Homage.
>>11853
Raiders are murderfags even in the Fallout universe itself. They had zero to none personality in any game - be it 1, 2, 3, NV or 4.
But I agree about Enclave - side-fics developed them so much better than in the original. The main reason why is that side-fic authors had the base to build upon while FO:E itself was a fundamental fanfiction that set the rules of the universe for the others. I fear to assume how long would it be if raiders or Enclave were given more personality - something of Project Horizon merit, I guess.
And since I mentioned Project Horizon you shall look no further for edginess - PJ is the epitome of it. Forced relationships, sex jokes, edgy grimdarkness stolen anime plots and Mary Suey-ish characters. I've read it in full and I kinda regret it - I didn't like it and all 2 000 000 words of reading were wasted for a few good chapters.
Raiders are murderfags even in the Fallout universe itself. They had zero to none personality in any game - be it 1, 2, 3, NV or 4.
But I agree about Enclave - side-fics developed them so much better than in the original. The main reason why is that side-fic authors had the base to build upon while FO:E itself was a fundamental fanfiction that set the rules of the universe for the others. I fear to assume how long would it be if raiders or Enclave were given more personality - something of Project Horizon merit, I guess.
And since I mentioned Project Horizon you shall look no further for edginess - PJ is the epitome of it. Forced relationships, sex jokes, edgy grimdarkness stolen anime plots and Mary Suey-ish characters. I've read it in full and I kinda regret it - I didn't like it and all 2 000 000 words of reading were wasted for a few good chapters.
>>11871
>Raiders have no personality
Macintosh's Marauders were very fleshed out. They were probably the most well developed bad guys I've ever read about, followed by the geopolitics of the Enclave. Brighthooves was…meh.
>Raiders have no personality
Macintosh's Marauders were very fleshed out. They were probably the most well developed bad guys I've ever read about, followed by the geopolitics of the Enclave. Brighthooves was…meh.
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>>11934
Haven't touched Murky yet. I might give it a shot.
If PH is shit, you have some pretty ridiculous standards for "free fanfiction."
I was quite satisfied.
Haven't touched Murky yet. I might give it a shot.
If PH is shit, you have some pretty ridiculous standards for "free fanfiction."
I was quite satisfied.
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>>12072
PH literally rips off several anime scenes from Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood and Ghost in the Shell at the very least. These are word for word, shot for shot descriptions slapped onto post apocalyptic horse fiction that had become nothing more than cybernetics anime after chapter 33. Just fucking look at this garbage.
There were forty chapters of this bullshit. Too bad it wasn't 40 more foals and that dumb bitch woulda just killed herself finally.
PH literally rips off several anime scenes from Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood and Ghost in the Shell at the very least. These are word for word, shot for shot descriptions slapped onto post apocalyptic horse fiction that had become nothing more than cybernetics anime after chapter 33. Just fucking look at this garbage.
There were forty chapters of this bullshit. Too bad it wasn't 40 more foals and that dumb bitch woulda just killed herself finally.
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>>11871
>Raiders are murderfags even in the Fallout universe itself
I actually agree with that, and that was kind of the problem with FoE's typical raider. It felt like the FO3 raiders and they sucked ass. At least with the NV version of those raiders they seemed to have a reason for existing and some sense of origin.
On another note, I was actually wondering how much traction FoE could get here in an /mlpol/ environment. /mlp/'s speed forced the original thread which only discussed updating fics (which was much more rapid back then) to start needing constant attention. We made tons of OC, shit happened and we had good laughs and bants, but eventually creators got bored and leave. Place dried up.
>Raiders are murderfags even in the Fallout universe itself
I actually agree with that, and that was kind of the problem with FoE's typical raider. It felt like the FO3 raiders and they sucked ass. At least with the NV version of those raiders they seemed to have a reason for existing and some sense of origin.
On another note, I was actually wondering how much traction FoE could get here in an /mlpol/ environment. /mlp/'s speed forced the original thread which only discussed updating fics (which was much more rapid back then) to start needing constant attention. We made tons of OC, shit happened and we had good laughs and bants, but eventually creators got bored and leave. Place dried up.
>>12316
> I was actually wondering how much traction FoE could get here in an /mlpol/ environment
I hope enough to keep discussions alive - it's one of these themes I can discuss for eternity.
Also, have you heard that there is 3-rd printing project going on? Books will be ready by May - hardcover, high quality paper, chapter art and things like that.
> I was actually wondering how much traction FoE could get here in an /mlpol/ environment
I hope enough to keep discussions alive - it's one of these themes I can discuss for eternity.
Also, have you heard that there is 3-rd printing project going on? Books will be ready by May - hardcover, high quality paper, chapter art and things like that.
>>12393
all I've heard is there's going to be a third printing at some point, but other than that nothing. I'm fine reading digital and I don't need to spend any extra money.
all I've heard is there's going to be a third printing at some point, but other than that nothing. I'm fine reading digital and I don't need to spend any extra money.
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>>12254
Oh pooh - and Derpy was a homage to Moira Brown, and Trixie was just a tribute to Master from Fallout 1. You are acting like derivative work of one is better than a derivative of the other.
Stronghoof was a genuinely great characterization, and the perfect foil for Lacunae, who would've otherwise had little character development.
The scene between Blackjack and "the tank" was good. Sure, it was an homage to Ghost in the Shell. That doesn't make it uncool. That's like saying Twilight's Tirek fight was stupid just because it was a Dragon Ball Z ripoff. Awesome = Awesome, no matter where it happens.
You could claim the Happy Horn segment was derivative of any number of novels or movies. You could say the same of the entire Fallout franchise, since it's set in a 1950's era "Golden age of SCIENCE" background, and therefore borrows all kinds of tropes from that (Radiation creates giant bugs, Lost in Space style robots, etc.).
I'm of the opinion that the scenes above were well written, and expanded on the characters and the setting in that universe. You are free to disagree.
Oh pooh - and Derpy was a homage to Moira Brown, and Trixie was just a tribute to Master from Fallout 1. You are acting like derivative work of one is better than a derivative of the other.
Stronghoof was a genuinely great characterization, and the perfect foil for Lacunae, who would've otherwise had little character development.
The scene between Blackjack and "the tank" was good. Sure, it was an homage to Ghost in the Shell. That doesn't make it uncool. That's like saying Twilight's Tirek fight was stupid just because it was a Dragon Ball Z ripoff. Awesome = Awesome, no matter where it happens.
You could claim the Happy Horn segment was derivative of any number of novels or movies. You could say the same of the entire Fallout franchise, since it's set in a 1950's era "Golden age of SCIENCE" background, and therefore borrows all kinds of tropes from that (Radiation creates giant bugs, Lost in Space style robots, etc.).
I'm of the opinion that the scenes above were well written, and expanded on the characters and the setting in that universe. You are free to disagree.
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>>12487
I'm perfectly aware of an homage but when you're pulling from so many different things and it all becomes hyped up fluff done over and over again, it loses it's charm.
And to be clear again, my main grievance with the two things I listed was how literal the reference was. Word for word descriptions of the shots from the source it was ripped from. That's not an homage, that's just being unoriginal and relying on a large vocabulary to accurately describe something you watched somewhere else in a specific and visually descriptive fashion. If you or I had the same skill in that particular area, we could easily to the same with any tv show, cartoon, anime, movie, you name it; and then call it 'good writing.'
>Stronghoof was great characterization
You mean he (the author) accurately portrayed a character from another series as if he belonged in his own universe? Most folks I knew didn't mind the cameo but as he became a recurring character, it became clear he was relying on content he didn't create to fill up space in his universe, which only contributed to it being as big a bloated mess as it was. He didn't spend time trying to build something new and instead rehashed old shit and counted on people recognizing it and going 'WOW I LOVE THAT ANIME.'
Also he was fucking irritatingly in character, and out of place, for the dumbest of situations. The moment he gets stabbed defending Stable 99 from the cyber zebra clones is so unbelievably corny and unconvincing, particularly how fucking hyped up that fucking map-wide battle was supposed to be.
>Blow job Vs the Deus the Tank was an homage
No it wasn't. You don't make an homage by sticking the exact same scenes in a different universe and a different building with the same exact heritage tree that is destroyed in the SAME fashion as in the anime it was stolen from. Backflips up the stairs into the laying down to avoid the machine gun fire included.
>Derpy is an homage to Moira
And an appropriate one at that which happens to fit quite well considering the source of both MLP and FO that FOE is derived from. Same goes for Trixie/Goddess, it's source material from MLP and FO that makes FoE.
This is not the same as PH's terrible habit of ripping off Jap cartoons.
>Happy Horn
Easily forgiven for the same reasons you listed, I didn't mention earlier cus my only problem with that arc was the rehashing of 'Blow Job has issues and you need to watch her deal with it.'
Yes yes Blow Job, I know you're sorry about killing 40 incurable foals who want to murder people using robots and all the other people you feel like you got killed.
>I'm of the opinion that the scenes above were well written
You're allowed to have that opinion. My opinion is that you should avoid blatant cameo's and making those cameos become canon to your personal universe in order to fill up a massive character cast to appear 'creative.' It's lazy and unoriginal, make up your own shit.
Also pic related.
Abandoning the examination of the actual content, the author is a fucking nutcase who thinks his fanfiction of a fanfiction is a legitimate deconstruction of the bible and I quote, "Blackjack as a character one ups Jesus Christ."
Dude is unbelievably full of himself and unaware of it.
I'm perfectly aware of an homage but when you're pulling from so many different things and it all becomes hyped up fluff done over and over again, it loses it's charm.
And to be clear again, my main grievance with the two things I listed was how literal the reference was. Word for word descriptions of the shots from the source it was ripped from. That's not an homage, that's just being unoriginal and relying on a large vocabulary to accurately describe something you watched somewhere else in a specific and visually descriptive fashion. If you or I had the same skill in that particular area, we could easily to the same with any tv show, cartoon, anime, movie, you name it; and then call it 'good writing.'
>Stronghoof was great characterization
You mean he (the author) accurately portrayed a character from another series as if he belonged in his own universe? Most folks I knew didn't mind the cameo but as he became a recurring character, it became clear he was relying on content he didn't create to fill up space in his universe, which only contributed to it being as big a bloated mess as it was. He didn't spend time trying to build something new and instead rehashed old shit and counted on people recognizing it and going 'WOW I LOVE THAT ANIME.'
Also he was fucking irritatingly in character, and out of place, for the dumbest of situations. The moment he gets stabbed defending Stable 99 from the cyber zebra clones is so unbelievably corny and unconvincing, particularly how fucking hyped up that fucking map-wide battle was supposed to be.
>Blow job Vs the Deus the Tank was an homage
No it wasn't. You don't make an homage by sticking the exact same scenes in a different universe and a different building with the same exact heritage tree that is destroyed in the SAME fashion as in the anime it was stolen from. Backflips up the stairs into the laying down to avoid the machine gun fire included.
>Derpy is an homage to Moira
And an appropriate one at that which happens to fit quite well considering the source of both MLP and FO that FOE is derived from. Same goes for Trixie/Goddess, it's source material from MLP and FO that makes FoE.
This is not the same as PH's terrible habit of ripping off Jap cartoons.
>Happy Horn
Easily forgiven for the same reasons you listed, I didn't mention earlier cus my only problem with that arc was the rehashing of 'Blow Job has issues and you need to watch her deal with it.'
Yes yes Blow Job, I know you're sorry about killing 40 incurable foals who want to murder people using robots and all the other people you feel like you got killed.
>I'm of the opinion that the scenes above were well written
You're allowed to have that opinion. My opinion is that you should avoid blatant cameo's and making those cameos become canon to your personal universe in order to fill up a massive character cast to appear 'creative.' It's lazy and unoriginal, make up your own shit.
Also pic related.
Abandoning the examination of the actual content, the author is a fucking nutcase who thinks his fanfiction of a fanfiction is a legitimate deconstruction of the bible and I quote, "Blackjack as a character one ups Jesus Christ."
Dude is unbelievably full of himself and unaware of it.
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>>12500
>Blatant cameo's
Those are called 'expies.' Even professional comic book writers create and use characters based on the works of others. I can see why you might think that Somber was taking advantage of people saying 'WOW I LOVE THAT ANIME,' and that's a valid concern. I can see where you are coming from on that front.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Expy
>You don't make an homage by sticking the exact same scenes in a different universe…
We ponified Hitler. This is a scene from an anime - ponified. Again, your reasoning against it is valid.
>When you're pulling from so many different things and it all becomes hyped up fluff done over and over again, it loses it's charm.
Again, valid. You think Somber is a hack that stole other people's work. It's probably why he's not selling the thing to you. It's free.
>"Blackjack as a character one ups Jesus Christ."
I don't know if he said this, but Blackjack certainly follows the messianic archetype. She literally exists because of others. If she were alone, she would've offed herself or became a rabid monster. Rampage pointed this out after the Seahorse chapter.
A scary, powerful entity that could destroy you utterly, but in reality just wants to be your friend and have a shot of Wild Pegasus with you? Sounds kind of like Jesus. He turned water into wine, if I recall correctly.
>My opinion is that you should avoid blatant cameo's
I can agree with that, but the author did what the author did. I'm not going to drop the whole thing because of a selfish/stupid decision or two by an author.
>Blatant cameo's
Those are called 'expies.' Even professional comic book writers create and use characters based on the works of others. I can see why you might think that Somber was taking advantage of people saying 'WOW I LOVE THAT ANIME,' and that's a valid concern. I can see where you are coming from on that front.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Expy
>You don't make an homage by sticking the exact same scenes in a different universe…
We ponified Hitler. This is a scene from an anime - ponified. Again, your reasoning against it is valid.
>When you're pulling from so many different things and it all becomes hyped up fluff done over and over again, it loses it's charm.
Again, valid. You think Somber is a hack that stole other people's work. It's probably why he's not selling the thing to you. It's free.
>"Blackjack as a character one ups Jesus Christ."
I don't know if he said this, but Blackjack certainly follows the messianic archetype. She literally exists because of others. If she were alone, she would've offed herself or became a rabid monster. Rampage pointed this out after the Seahorse chapter.
A scary, powerful entity that could destroy you utterly, but in reality just wants to be your friend and have a shot of Wild Pegasus with you? Sounds kind of like Jesus. He turned water into wine, if I recall correctly.
>My opinion is that you should avoid blatant cameo's
I can agree with that, but the author did what the author did. I'm not going to drop the whole thing because of a selfish/stupid decision or two by an author.
>>12508
Trying not to be totally facetious here since you're so damn polite but I'm still gonna put some in here and there.
>expy
See, I knew cameo wasn't the right word but a similar concept of something being put in a place it didn't originate from. When you read PH chaperson 1-53 three damn times you tend to see how things just don't feel like they belong there.
I also forgot to mention PH does the anime power creep too so there's another reason I'm generally annoyed by it.
As for professional comic book writers… they're professional. They also have an established universe that already has a whole host of characters. I'm more complaining about the fact that it was FMA to FoEPH. Including Pip the once soon after 33 was tolerable up until the point the author started letting on how badly he wanted to rewrite the original story to fit his own perspective. Which leads me tooooooo…
>I don't know if he said this
He absolutely said this, among other retarded shit like:
>Littlepip should have been raped in Fillydelphia because it would have helped build her character
I'm sorry to insist on this but the author is kinda fucked in the head. He did make an attempt to set up Blow Job a's a messianic archetype but it frankly pales in comparison to Harry fuckin Potter. She's more like Optimus Prime since she keeps dying and coming back over and over again, typically with some new upgrade or perk every time.
Even when she "dies for good" at the end her fucking soul STILL sticks around and gets back into her Blank clone so she gets to live forever and fuck Littlepip up to 200 extra years later.
Unfortunately I'm out of break time so I might have to continue this reply later.
Trying not to be totally facetious here since you're so damn polite but I'm still gonna put some in here and there.
>expy
See, I knew cameo wasn't the right word but a similar concept of something being put in a place it didn't originate from. When you read PH chaperson 1-53 three damn times you tend to see how things just don't feel like they belong there.
I also forgot to mention PH does the anime power creep too so there's another reason I'm generally annoyed by it.
As for professional comic book writers… they're professional. They also have an established universe that already has a whole host of characters. I'm more complaining about the fact that it was FMA to FoEPH. Including Pip the once soon after 33 was tolerable up until the point the author started letting on how badly he wanted to rewrite the original story to fit his own perspective. Which leads me tooooooo…
>I don't know if he said this
He absolutely said this, among other retarded shit like:
>Littlepip should have been raped in Fillydelphia because it would have helped build her character
I'm sorry to insist on this but the author is kinda fucked in the head. He did make an attempt to set up Blow Job a's a messianic archetype but it frankly pales in comparison to Harry fuckin Potter. She's more like Optimus Prime since she keeps dying and coming back over and over again, typically with some new upgrade or perk every time.
Even when she "dies for good" at the end her fucking soul STILL sticks around and gets back into her Blank clone so she gets to live forever and fuck Littlepip up to 200 extra years later.
Unfortunately I'm out of break time so I might have to continue this reply later.
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>>13040
>>12508
I've been mobile posting so different id's but the only other comment I had was about:
>selfish/stupid decision or two
It was a lot more than that I'm pretty sure.
The author has visited /foe/ before, and usually to shitpost and pretend he feels bad for fucking up the story. How do I know? He kinda has a reputation of making the same kind of softly meant apologies in many different foe communities. /mlp/, fimfic, re dedit, IRC's. I've spoken to the guy on a few occasions, including in person. The Jesus comment was on a DM on IRC though. Our community was pretty clear about why we didn't like PH anymore when he came around. Especially towards the end when only a few of us, like me, still read it just to have the right to criticize it.
And that's kinda the thing, most of us back then *genuinely* enjoyed PH. It was as it went on further and further into ridiculous territory, expies, Rape Curing Bat Pony Dicks, constantly recycling of material made to invoke empathy for the character which frankly everyone starting making fun of…
I think chapter 54 was the biggest point of contension. It wasn't just /foe/ getting their titties in a twist. Author went back and revised it twice. That's when I read 1 through 53, three whole times, and realized what was happening.
It wasn't Fallout Horses anymore. It was just Post Apocalypse and Anime.
Have a Steel Ranger Scribe pony for the long post.
>>12508
I've been mobile posting so different id's but the only other comment I had was about:
>selfish/stupid decision or two
It was a lot more than that I'm pretty sure.
The author has visited /foe/ before, and usually to shitpost and pretend he feels bad for fucking up the story. How do I know? He kinda has a reputation of making the same kind of softly meant apologies in many different foe communities. /mlp/, fimfic, re dedit, IRC's. I've spoken to the guy on a few occasions, including in person. The Jesus comment was on a DM on IRC though. Our community was pretty clear about why we didn't like PH anymore when he came around. Especially towards the end when only a few of us, like me, still read it just to have the right to criticize it.
And that's kinda the thing, most of us back then *genuinely* enjoyed PH. It was as it went on further and further into ridiculous territory, expies, Rape Curing Bat Pony Dicks, constantly recycling of material made to invoke empathy for the character which frankly everyone starting making fun of…
I think chapter 54 was the biggest point of contension. It wasn't just /foe/ getting their titties in a twist. Author went back and revised it twice. That's when I read 1 through 53, three whole times, and realized what was happening.
It wasn't Fallout Horses anymore. It was just Post Apocalypse and Anime.
Have a Steel Ranger Scribe pony for the long post.
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>>13040
>you're so damn polite
/comfy/ board is /comfy/. I'm glad we can actually talk about things rather than screaming at each other like autists.
>concept of something being put in a place it didn't originate from
That's fair. You don't like that the setting got populated by characters/tropes/norms outside of what Fallout is supposed to be. I can respect that, because those things honestly do detract from the story. It makes it harder to recommend to people when it's like "Oh, that only makes sense if you've seen X." It also does make certain things feel like a hack job.
That doesn't stop me from enjoying a fuck ton of other parts to the story. The cliff, interrogation by raider, blacking out from chems and coming to in the viscera of your tormentors, the BFG…all of that is from the first arc. There's plenty more of that in PH.
>Somber: Littlepip should have been raped in Fillydelphia because it would have helped build her character
Lol. Little Pip wouldn't allow herself to get raped - she would rip them apart with telekinesis without any qualms about doing so. Sombers point of view is skewed by two things: A mischaracterization of Little Pip in that instance, and the fact that his writing style is far more visceral than KKats.
Just to point out some things for his writing style that lends to this:
>Security kills ponies.
Nearly every single minor character, raider, etc. has a name. Whether it's Two Bits the raider at the very beginning, or Nails (who redeems himself and does better).
This is in stark contrast to Little Pip, who kills nameless mooks. She doesn't care about their back stories or their names - they're bad ponies, or monstrous Hellhounds! Blackjack cares because she has a guilt complex a mile long that never, ever goes away. That, and she talks to everybody, whether that's Rover, zebras, spirit possessed clothes, and hell, SHE EVEN YELLS AT THE SMOOZE. For Blackjack's story, characterization of things that don't even have character TRAITS is very important.
It's stuff like that is a very differentiating characteristic between both writing styles, and is probably why his "Rape little Pip" idea wouldn't work for Kkat. It's far too cruel for it to work in the original setting of Fallout Equestria, and Little Pip is far too strong of a character to allow it to happen (in contrast to Blackjack, who would choose death and rape if it meant giving a single pony a can of beans, because she hates herself SOOOOO MUCH).
All that aside, there's really one thing that makes me love PH so much.
The foreshadowing. It's so epic, and so very, very small…that you have to go back and read 20 chapters ago to say "HOLY CRAP THIS WAS THE PLAN THE WHOLE TIME!", and it's amazing.
Marigold. That's all I have to say about that.
>power creep
The games have that too. By the end of Fallout 3, anything less than 3 Albino Rad Scorpions is simply child's play. Fallout 4 is even worse about that - start a high endurance character at level one, and get to level 50…even on the hardest difficulty, it becomes possible to survive NUKES (at least in power armour).
I don't see the power creep as a big deal, since it's based mostly on video game logic.
>you're so damn polite
/comfy/ board is /comfy/. I'm glad we can actually talk about things rather than screaming at each other like autists.
>concept of something being put in a place it didn't originate from
That's fair. You don't like that the setting got populated by characters/tropes/norms outside of what Fallout is supposed to be. I can respect that, because those things honestly do detract from the story. It makes it harder to recommend to people when it's like "Oh, that only makes sense if you've seen X." It also does make certain things feel like a hack job.
That doesn't stop me from enjoying a fuck ton of other parts to the story. The cliff, interrogation by raider, blacking out from chems and coming to in the viscera of your tormentors, the BFG…all of that is from the first arc. There's plenty more of that in PH.
>Somber: Littlepip should have been raped in Fillydelphia because it would have helped build her character
Lol. Little Pip wouldn't allow herself to get raped - she would rip them apart with telekinesis without any qualms about doing so. Sombers point of view is skewed by two things: A mischaracterization of Little Pip in that instance, and the fact that his writing style is far more visceral than KKats.
Just to point out some things for his writing style that lends to this:
>Security kills ponies.
Nearly every single minor character, raider, etc. has a name. Whether it's Two Bits the raider at the very beginning, or Nails (who redeems himself and does better).
This is in stark contrast to Little Pip, who kills nameless mooks. She doesn't care about their back stories or their names - they're bad ponies, or monstrous Hellhounds! Blackjack cares because she has a guilt complex a mile long that never, ever goes away. That, and she talks to everybody, whether that's Rover, zebras, spirit possessed clothes, and hell, SHE EVEN YELLS AT THE SMOOZE. For Blackjack's story, characterization of things that don't even have character TRAITS is very important.
It's stuff like that is a very differentiating characteristic between both writing styles, and is probably why his "Rape little Pip" idea wouldn't work for Kkat. It's far too cruel for it to work in the original setting of Fallout Equestria, and Little Pip is far too strong of a character to allow it to happen (in contrast to Blackjack, who would choose death and rape if it meant giving a single pony a can of beans, because she hates herself SOOOOO MUCH).
All that aside, there's really one thing that makes me love PH so much.
The foreshadowing. It's so epic, and so very, very small…that you have to go back and read 20 chapters ago to say "HOLY CRAP THIS WAS THE PLAN THE WHOLE TIME!", and it's amazing.
Marigold. That's all I have to say about that.
>power creep
The games have that too. By the end of Fallout 3, anything less than 3 Albino Rad Scorpions is simply child's play. Fallout 4 is even worse about that - start a high endurance character at level one, and get to level 50…even on the hardest difficulty, it becomes possible to survive NUKES (at least in power armour).
I don't see the power creep as a big deal, since it's based mostly on video game logic.
>It wasn't Fallout Horses anymore. It was just Post Apocalypse and Anime.
It did take a genre shift for the surreal right around High Tower, and that changed the kind of book it was. I can see how that would be disconcerting. I didn't jump on the FoE train until around Ch. 60 or so, and I never took part in the community. I just read it as it happened, and it seemed cool to me.
But that's just my opinion.
It did take a genre shift for the surreal right around High Tower, and that changed the kind of book it was. I can see how that would be disconcerting. I didn't jump on the FoE train until around Ch. 60 or so, and I never took part in the community. I just read it as it happened, and it seemed cool to me.
But that's just my opinion.
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>>12508
>I don't know if he said this
Well he did, it's right here fambino
https://www.reddit.com/r/falloutequestria/comments/46mykp/do_you_pass_the_project_horizons_test/d08mbdg/
https://www.reddit.com/r/falloutequestria/comments/3ka0mf/cliffnotes_for_project_horizons/cuvyh5x/
Also I'll bring up some other reasons why Somber/PH is terrible
>He had essentially a professional editing team which he pretty much just took for granted.
Yeah. Somber had at least 8 people at once working on PH for him. According to testimony from Editors who quit, he just slapped them with a horribly written rough draft and then expected them to fully finish it for him and make it a final draft. This is clearly evident later on in the story where the quality of the prose takes a huge nose dive as more people leave the editing team and the ones who remain become disenchanted.
So if you read a passage in PH that was written really well, that likely wasn't even written by Somber. Just some editor who likely had to completely rewrite it from his chicken scratch.
Also when one of his editors suggested they change the plot to fix some issues, he threatened to kill himself.
>Has a cuck fetish
Not going to cite it, but I know.
>His prose is the absolute worse ever penned by a human being.
This was the deal breaker for me. Somber takes 2 fucking paragraphs to say what could've just been said in 1 sentence. This is why PH is so fucking long. I can skim read the story and understand it in a 10th of the time. And I found myself not getting any enjoyment, new information, whatever, from going back and re-reading it properly. His writing is just designed to waste your time with meaningless bullshit.
>I don't know if he said this
Well he did, it's right here fambino
https://www.reddit.com/r/falloutequestria/comments/46mykp/do_you_pass_the_project_horizons_test/d08mbdg/
https://www.reddit.com/r/falloutequestria/comments/3ka0mf/cliffnotes_for_project_horizons/cuvyh5x/
Also I'll bring up some other reasons why Somber/PH is terrible
>He had essentially a professional editing team which he pretty much just took for granted.
Yeah. Somber had at least 8 people at once working on PH for him. According to testimony from Editors who quit, he just slapped them with a horribly written rough draft and then expected them to fully finish it for him and make it a final draft. This is clearly evident later on in the story where the quality of the prose takes a huge nose dive as more people leave the editing team and the ones who remain become disenchanted.
So if you read a passage in PH that was written really well, that likely wasn't even written by Somber. Just some editor who likely had to completely rewrite it from his chicken scratch.
Also when one of his editors suggested they change the plot to fix some issues, he threatened to kill himself.
>Has a cuck fetish
Not going to cite it, but I know.
>His prose is the absolute worse ever penned by a human being.
This was the deal breaker for me. Somber takes 2 fucking paragraphs to say what could've just been said in 1 sentence. This is why PH is so fucking long. I can skim read the story and understand it in a 10th of the time. And I found myself not getting any enjoyment, new information, whatever, from going back and re-reading it properly. His writing is just designed to waste your time with meaningless bullshit.
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>>13633
>>13633
>Foreshadowing.
Oh okay then let me break Blackjack for you.
>Blackjack watches a filly, she only comes to know as "Hatches" after the incident, get horribly ripped apart by a malfunctioning hydraulic door.
>Ripped in half, guts and intestines strewn everywhere.
>Literally is not phased by this. Goes see a priest (?) and counseling but she pretty much just brushes it off likes it's nothing.
>Beats P-21's lover to death with a night stick in cold blood. Probably got blood everywhere and caved his head in.
>Is only mildly disturbed because she feels it betrays protocol
>Fast forward to the first chapter: BJ sees 2 dead ponies. In a far away dark room. Not even mutilated, just shot.
>Starts vomiting uncontrollably in disgust
>??????
>BJ claims later on she didn't know that anything in 99 was fucked up and that she completely conformed/was indoctrinated into that society.
>Okay
>In Chapter 1 again BJ mentions that she actually knows how wrong and fucked up 99 is but she just actively suppresses it
>??????
>Blackjack has no problem beating P-21's aforementioned lover to death, and was mentioned to be a lazy as fuck security mare who didn't give a shit about her job and constantly fucked up.
>For some reason in the wasteland she is entirely devoted to the ethics of Security ('muh security saves ponies') even though she could not have given a shit before and actively didn't go out of her way to save lives.
Oh, and before you say "But that's the first chapter.", Somber actually went back and rewrote the first chapter after like, Chapter 20. A lot of these issues were brought up and were present early on as chapter 4, and yet he didn't change anything because????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQpLNCRIxWA
Blackjack's entire backstory conflicts with her character. Maybe he should've spent more time fixing this instead of just coming up with an elaborate backstory for why BJ is not only related to Twilight, but also went to the moon (?) for a bit while her surrogate mother was pregnant. Or something equally as dumb.
>>13633
>Foreshadowing.
Oh okay then let me break Blackjack for you.
>Blackjack watches a filly, she only comes to know as "Hatches" after the incident, get horribly ripped apart by a malfunctioning hydraulic door.
>Ripped in half, guts and intestines strewn everywhere.
>Literally is not phased by this. Goes see a priest (?) and counseling but she pretty much just brushes it off likes it's nothing.
>Beats P-21's lover to death with a night stick in cold blood. Probably got blood everywhere and caved his head in.
>Is only mildly disturbed because she feels it betrays protocol
>Fast forward to the first chapter: BJ sees 2 dead ponies. In a far away dark room. Not even mutilated, just shot.
>Starts vomiting uncontrollably in disgust
>??????
>BJ claims later on she didn't know that anything in 99 was fucked up and that she completely conformed/was indoctrinated into that society.
>Okay
>In Chapter 1 again BJ mentions that she actually knows how wrong and fucked up 99 is but she just actively suppresses it
>??????
>Blackjack has no problem beating P-21's aforementioned lover to death, and was mentioned to be a lazy as fuck security mare who didn't give a shit about her job and constantly fucked up.
>For some reason in the wasteland she is entirely devoted to the ethics of Security ('muh security saves ponies') even though she could not have given a shit before and actively didn't go out of her way to save lives.
Oh, and before you say "But that's the first chapter.", Somber actually went back and rewrote the first chapter after like, Chapter 20. A lot of these issues were brought up and were present early on as chapter 4, and yet he didn't change anything because????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQpLNCRIxWA
Blackjack's entire backstory conflicts with her character. Maybe he should've spent more time fixing this instead of just coming up with an elaborate backstory for why BJ is not only related to Twilight, but also went to the moon (?) for a bit while her surrogate mother was pregnant. Or something equally as dumb.
>>13649
>Hatches
That happened when she was a filly. It is a memory so repressed it didn't even get mentioned until the last 10 chapters or so. In point of fact, other than it occurring, and that she was in shock, nothing else is mentioned of it.
I think the mantra was "Just don't think about it" back then.
>Priest
Yeah, that priest didn't really help with that. It was just her "job," chosen by birth. She didn't know how to deal with it, and didn't give young Blackjack any tools on how to deal with it.
>Beats P-21's lover to death with a night stick in cold blood.
She was in security. Beating males was part of her job. She regretted it later, when they were humanized, but at the time it was more of a "Fuck, I'm gonna be in so much trouble" rather than "I killed something with a name!"
>Fast forward to the first chapter: BJ sees 2 dead ponies. In a far away dark room. Not even mutilated, just shot.
She knew them. That's why she was disgusted. For an example on how this works:
Dead communist =/= dead person. Communists aren't people, silly!
>BJ claims later on she didn't know that anything in 99 was fucked up and that she completely conformed/was indoctrinated into that society.
>Okay
>In Chapter 1 again BJ mentions that she actually knows how wrong and fucked up 99 is but she just actively suppresses it
>??????
I don't think you know how denial works in psychology.
When she was in the Stable, everything could be ignored. Just don't think about it. It's routine. This is how things are. This is normal.
That's indoctrination.
Even the second statement doesn't change that. Anytime she saw something wrong, or tried to change something (like report Marmalades mom to security), it didn't work.
So she just stopped thinking about it.
>Blackjack has no problem beating P-21's aforementioned lover to death, and was mentioned to be a lazy as fuck security mare who didn't give a shit about her job and constantly fucked up.
>For some reason in the wasteland she is entirely devoted to the ethics of Security ('muh security saves ponies') even though she could not have given a shit before and actively didn't go out of her way to save lives.
I'm pretty sure that's just called character development. She confronted her neurosis directly with P-21, killed some kids, and started the long, terrible path of angst as she did. She's not exactly meant to be a hero, and by the end of the book, she isn't considered one either.
Besides, didn't she hate being called Security at the start? Sure, she kept telling herself that Security saved ponies, but any time someone on the radio was like "Look at this cool shit they did!," she constantly felt like she didn't deserve it? You know, what with being a murderer and rapist?
>Hatches
That happened when she was a filly. It is a memory so repressed it didn't even get mentioned until the last 10 chapters or so. In point of fact, other than it occurring, and that she was in shock, nothing else is mentioned of it.
I think the mantra was "Just don't think about it" back then.
>Priest
Yeah, that priest didn't really help with that. It was just her "job," chosen by birth. She didn't know how to deal with it, and didn't give young Blackjack any tools on how to deal with it.
>Beats P-21's lover to death with a night stick in cold blood.
She was in security. Beating males was part of her job. She regretted it later, when they were humanized, but at the time it was more of a "Fuck, I'm gonna be in so much trouble" rather than "I killed something with a name!"
>Fast forward to the first chapter: BJ sees 2 dead ponies. In a far away dark room. Not even mutilated, just shot.
She knew them. That's why she was disgusted. For an example on how this works:
Dead communist =/= dead person. Communists aren't people, silly!
>BJ claims later on she didn't know that anything in 99 was fucked up and that she completely conformed/was indoctrinated into that society.
>Okay
>In Chapter 1 again BJ mentions that she actually knows how wrong and fucked up 99 is but she just actively suppresses it
>??????
I don't think you know how denial works in psychology.
When she was in the Stable, everything could be ignored. Just don't think about it. It's routine. This is how things are. This is normal.
That's indoctrination.
Even the second statement doesn't change that. Anytime she saw something wrong, or tried to change something (like report Marmalades mom to security), it didn't work.
So she just stopped thinking about it.
>Blackjack has no problem beating P-21's aforementioned lover to death, and was mentioned to be a lazy as fuck security mare who didn't give a shit about her job and constantly fucked up.
>For some reason in the wasteland she is entirely devoted to the ethics of Security ('muh security saves ponies') even though she could not have given a shit before and actively didn't go out of her way to save lives.
I'm pretty sure that's just called character development. She confronted her neurosis directly with P-21, killed some kids, and started the long, terrible path of angst as she did. She's not exactly meant to be a hero, and by the end of the book, she isn't considered one either.
Besides, didn't she hate being called Security at the start? Sure, she kept telling herself that Security saved ponies, but any time someone on the radio was like "Look at this cool shit they did!," she constantly felt like she didn't deserve it? You know, what with being a murderer and rapist?
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>>13647
>>13649
I can't debate shit like this because I don't have references or specific memory. Well done Leafbro.
I'm pretty sure I've purged a lot of PH from my brain because as I read >>13633 I suddenly started remembering more scenes ripped directly from Anime.
>When Rape Curing Bat Dick Dies
His dad turns into Nagato from Naruto Shippuden and he unleashes a power so awesome it turns his hair gray and emaciates him.
>When Glory FINALLY DIES FOR REAL
Basically just imagine Blow Job and Glory instead of Kirito and what's her ginger haired face's name from the end of Sword Art Online when they finally defeat Kiaba and they're sitting on the clouds as the game breaks down.
There's a lot wrong with PH, which is why I'm adamant on maintaining a certain level of realism in my nuclear gun horses.
>>13649
I can't debate shit like this because I don't have references or specific memory. Well done Leafbro.
I'm pretty sure I've purged a lot of PH from my brain because as I read >>13633 I suddenly started remembering more scenes ripped directly from Anime.
>When Rape Curing Bat Dick Dies
His dad turns into Nagato from Naruto Shippuden and he unleashes a power so awesome it turns his hair gray and emaciates him.
>When Glory FINALLY DIES FOR REAL
Basically just imagine Blow Job and Glory instead of Kirito and what's her ginger haired face's name from the end of Sword Art Online when they finally defeat Kiaba and they're sitting on the clouds as the game breaks down.
There's a lot wrong with PH, which is why I'm adamant on maintaining a certain level of realism in my nuclear gun horses.
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>>13663
>Didn't get mentioned until the last 10 chapters.
Uh no, it was actually mentioned really early on. Like chapter 5-ish. Not really a repressed memory if she immediately recalled it.
>Beating males was part of the job
Yet got all soft when she saw P-21 get beat up by other Security Mares in Chapter 1. Why did she suddenly give a shit then and there?
No, that's not indoctrination. She uses that excuse for why she cucks Glory. She meant it as "I sincerely believed everything in the Stable". There's a clear difference between a hardcore commie who believes in muh Marxism and a citizen living in a Communist country that has come to accept the new order and stop questioning things. This is what BJ says she was.
Her path of wangst is also more pathetic than relatable. The only kill she ever really should feel bad about was Scoodle, because she directly disobeyed her and it got her killed. Pretty much every other death that BJ wangsts about is dumb.
Muh Fiddy foals was the most bullshit scene in the story. Just 12 seconds ago the Foals were literally ripping out Blackjack's intestines and then Glory and P-21 set up a false choice for Blackjack to either kill the kids, or leave them, because they're both too much of pussies to do it. It's a false choice because if she wanted to follow the whole 'Do better mantra', she should've just let them out and tried to treat them. Even if they had terminal illnesses, couldn't there at least be a chance they could live, at least for a few months? Why do P-21 and Glory shoot down that option, and yet are too fucking spineless to make the decision themselves and just thrust it on BJ? And then why do they fucking blame her for it???
She also doesn't give a shit about kills that she SHOULD'VE cared about. Like when she runs into a small cannibal village, only it turns out they pretty much have literally no other food source whatsoever. She just gives them an ultimatum to stop without offering them any alternative or other ways to get food. They refuse, so she massacres them all. And then just shrugs and says 'ah well there's nothing we could do'. When there obviously was a hell of a lot more she could've done, at least offered them help first.
Face it, BJ is basically a huge bleeding heart liberal who only cares about rapists and murderers.
>Didn't get mentioned until the last 10 chapters.
Uh no, it was actually mentioned really early on. Like chapter 5-ish. Not really a repressed memory if she immediately recalled it.
>Beating males was part of the job
Yet got all soft when she saw P-21 get beat up by other Security Mares in Chapter 1. Why did she suddenly give a shit then and there?
No, that's not indoctrination. She uses that excuse for why she cucks Glory. She meant it as "I sincerely believed everything in the Stable". There's a clear difference between a hardcore commie who believes in muh Marxism and a citizen living in a Communist country that has come to accept the new order and stop questioning things. This is what BJ says she was.
Her path of wangst is also more pathetic than relatable. The only kill she ever really should feel bad about was Scoodle, because she directly disobeyed her and it got her killed. Pretty much every other death that BJ wangsts about is dumb.
Muh Fiddy foals was the most bullshit scene in the story. Just 12 seconds ago the Foals were literally ripping out Blackjack's intestines and then Glory and P-21 set up a false choice for Blackjack to either kill the kids, or leave them, because they're both too much of pussies to do it. It's a false choice because if she wanted to follow the whole 'Do better mantra', she should've just let them out and tried to treat them. Even if they had terminal illnesses, couldn't there at least be a chance they could live, at least for a few months? Why do P-21 and Glory shoot down that option, and yet are too fucking spineless to make the decision themselves and just thrust it on BJ? And then why do they fucking blame her for it???
She also doesn't give a shit about kills that she SHOULD'VE cared about. Like when she runs into a small cannibal village, only it turns out they pretty much have literally no other food source whatsoever. She just gives them an ultimatum to stop without offering them any alternative or other ways to get food. They refuse, so she massacres them all. And then just shrugs and says 'ah well there's nothing we could do'. When there obviously was a hell of a lot more she could've done, at least offered them help first.
Face it, BJ is basically a huge bleeding heart liberal who only cares about rapists and murderers.
>>13647
>I intended for Project Horizons to be a deconstruction of the story of Jesus (NOT an endorsement), right from her special ancestry down to her being a chosen vessel for the manipulation of higher powers.
Somber didn't say that Blackjack one ups Jesus Christ. It's a deconstruction, just like Evangelion was a deconstruction of the giant robot genre.
He took a messianic character and ran with it. You probably didn't like 'Dune' either.
>A professional editing team
That he gave thanks to pretty much every step of the way, and they put in their own footnotes. It was a group effort, and the quality of the end product reflects that.
>According to testimony from Editors who quit, he just slapped them with a horribly written rough draft
>He threatened to kill himself
I would need sources for both of those.
>Has a cuck fetish
And we're nazi horse-fuckers. Personal attacks don't mean much.
>His prose is the absolute worse ever penned by a human being.
You could say the same thing for Game of Thrones, but R.R. Martin has his own TV show…
>I intended for Project Horizons to be a deconstruction of the story of Jesus (NOT an endorsement), right from her special ancestry down to her being a chosen vessel for the manipulation of higher powers.
Somber didn't say that Blackjack one ups Jesus Christ. It's a deconstruction, just like Evangelion was a deconstruction of the giant robot genre.
He took a messianic character and ran with it. You probably didn't like 'Dune' either.
>A professional editing team
That he gave thanks to pretty much every step of the way, and they put in their own footnotes. It was a group effort, and the quality of the end product reflects that.
>According to testimony from Editors who quit, he just slapped them with a horribly written rough draft
>He threatened to kill himself
I would need sources for both of those.
>Has a cuck fetish
And we're nazi horse-fuckers. Personal attacks don't mean much.
>His prose is the absolute worse ever penned by a human being.
You could say the same thing for Game of Thrones, but R.R. Martin has his own TV show…
>>13683
>Like chapter 5-ish.
She mentions Hatches in Ch. 5? I'd have to re-read that. I'm pretty sure she was still wrestling with the death of Scoodle and finding Glory at that time.
>Yet got all soft when she saw P-21 get beat up by other Security Mares in Chapter 1.
Do you always enjoy your job? If you had a job as a prison guard, would you just mercilessly beat prisoners because you could?
>false choice
>should've just let them out and tried to treat them
I dunno, I'm not a doctor, but releasing mentally unhinged children into the wastes with incurable diseases doesn't sound any better than just putting them down.
Also, doesn't she beat herself up for not finding a third way later on? Your complaints are already addressed in the story itself, and it's part of Blackjack's struggle with her own morality.
>small cannibal village
Pretty sure that was Little Pip. Broken Arch was Blackjack's equivalent, and that involved slave trade. If Blackjack encountered something similar, I'm pretty sure it was before Ch.20, and her mantra at the time would've been "If it's red, it's dead."
>Like chapter 5-ish.
She mentions Hatches in Ch. 5? I'd have to re-read that. I'm pretty sure she was still wrestling with the death of Scoodle and finding Glory at that time.
>Yet got all soft when she saw P-21 get beat up by other Security Mares in Chapter 1.
Do you always enjoy your job? If you had a job as a prison guard, would you just mercilessly beat prisoners because you could?
>false choice
>should've just let them out and tried to treat them
I dunno, I'm not a doctor, but releasing mentally unhinged children into the wastes with incurable diseases doesn't sound any better than just putting them down.
Also, doesn't she beat herself up for not finding a third way later on? Your complaints are already addressed in the story itself, and it's part of Blackjack's struggle with her own morality.
>small cannibal village
Pretty sure that was Little Pip. Broken Arch was Blackjack's equivalent, and that involved slave trade. If Blackjack encountered something similar, I'm pretty sure it was before Ch.20, and her mantra at the time would've been "If it's red, it's dead."
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>>11934
Murky Number Seven is pretty good so far. Very psychological, with an intense focus on the importance and use of POWER.
I'm looking forward to reading more!
Murky Number Seven is pretty good so far. Very psychological, with an intense focus on the importance and use of POWER.
I'm looking forward to reading more!
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>>11934
" Glimmerlight had shown me that the correct memory at the right time had the power to simply inspire. To remind us that we shouldn't frown because it was lost…but to smile because it had happened."
Shits pretty based.
" Glimmerlight had shown me that the correct memory at the right time had the power to simply inspire. To remind us that we shouldn't frown because it was lost…but to smile because it had happened."
Shits pretty based.
Did he? Because I think he did
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