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>>104610
>why is leftist art so cringy
because they're mental defectives, didn't we know this?

>what can we do about it
a flamethrower comes to mind.

>Why is leftist art so cringy
Because they hate beauty
>what can we do about it?
I'll give you a hint. The solution involves ovens and/or helicopters.

>>104610
Because there are one of two people interested in it, pretentious aristocrat wannabes who attach meaning to something that is ultimately meaningless and certain people who buy and sell the stuff to launder money. There's nothing we can realistically do about it except to try and educate people on what real art is, which this isn't.

You can find pic related at the Art Institute in Chicago. The metal sculptures are from the Soviet Union.
The biggest reason things like these are put out their is that patrons pay for them, you'd have to get into that position to make that change. Your pics mention the art was paid with tax money, so another option is getting into politics and holding an office where you can make those decisions on public works. Hopefully these rotate right.

>>104623
And they didn't.

>>104610
There needs to be a way to separate out the normies and the potential children's blood drinkers. It's like pony porn on /mlpol/, it helps sort out who belongs.

>>104611
I don't have words for this

>>104610
>>104610
It is like the Swedes have given up on the idea about bracelets preventing rape and just opened up and welcomes rapfuges fully into their society.

>>104666
Devil trips. What have you done, anon?

Someone has to make the babies to keep the ponzi going. Rape babies still pay taxes, right?

>>104683
Sadly nothing that Sweden didn't do to themselves.
Some of the rape babies will perhaps pay taxes. Their single moms will on the other hand be paid by the state both because they were raped (reparation) and because it resulted in a baby (have to care for it and can't work).
But it is probably the easiest way for the leftists to achieve the goal of making everyone mixed children. Too few want to do it willingly, and once you are a single mom with a mixed rapebaby the chance you will also produce a clean Swede is very low.

>>104684
I hope these guys get some refugees from Congo, then they will have a nice taste of diversity.

If their country still stands after that I will be impressed.

>>104705
Only way the Swedes will survive is if they wake up before they are a minority. Sadly the same goes for most of Europe except countries like Poland that is fully awake.

>>104724
Sad thing is niggers will just kill each-other if they are on the country.
Black men do not have a history of going forward (this is a social problem between black neighborhoods)
They will end up just creating the modern day equivalent of tribes (gangs) and fight each-other just like in Congo.

>>104729
Yep, and they will blame white men for it too.

>>104610
Years of pushing the "godless rules" made this socially acceptable, and the artists who want to distinguish themselves from others (because otherwise their career is worthless) do it by inciting shock on the viewers. This has been happening for a while, the difference now is that it happens in the open, without distinguishing the people who follow art from those who don't (including children). It's just attention whoring from disgruntled jobless "people".
The pendulum is already swinging back, but if you want to speed it up raise the fact that we (as society) don't want to see this pushed in our faces, much less in our youngs'.

>>104732
Fully agree

>>104732
This kind of shit makes me feel sorry for would-be aspiring artists who actually give a shit..

>>104732

This makes me want to purge some degenerates. I'll start with Sweden, where I live, and then I might lend a hand to anyone in need.

>>104732
absolutely disgusting

>>104746
Nice need some shooting lessons?
I recommend a Steyr, it has 30 shots, a nice optics, it's light has a good penetration and it's reliable, perfect for your mass shooting needs.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that "art" display that was used to celebrate the opening of the Gotthard tunnel in Switzerland.

It was fucking terrifying. Litterally satanic ritual tier. I don't have a good video right now since I'm phone posting, but I'll be back this evening if nobody beats me to it.

Seriously though, they go the full 9 yards. They had zombie like workers marching to their deaths, some train car full of dangling chains, and a goat headed figure that appeared to be raping souls. All the while Merkel was in the audience and enjoying the show. The only thing comforting was that you could tell that there were still some EU politicians who were visibly distressed by the display.

>>104769
Here's the entire thing: https://youtu.be/zW5gklIKcDg
Weird stuff. Sometimes I wonder if they're just testing how far they can push it.

This (((art))) is shit, we should dispose of it

>>104778
That's some Sodom and Gomorrah shit if I ever saw it. Link related is the kind of stuff to be played when celebrating an accomplishment like that.

>>104791
Ahh! I'm retarded tonight.
https://youtu.be/ov1kjVvYpWk

>>104792
Fully agree.

>>104610
I genuinely don't know whether this is sarcasm or not. If this was someone I know this phrasing would certainly mean it was, but who knows anymore.

>>104623
>You can find pic related at the Art Institute in Chicago. The metal sculptures are from the Soviet Union.
When you say the phrase "Soviet Union" one has to wonder whether this kind of art is intentionally hideous - like how with propaganda and forcing people to agree with a statement that everyone knows isn't true, just to control them psychologically.

>>104767
Read that as "Satyr" first and started reeing internally.

How would you define art?

This is part of the reason I would never call myself artist.
I am a drawfag at best.

In any serious manner this can't be called anything but bullshit.

>>104791
>>104792
That's a rare flag even on 4/pol/

>>104797
> one has to wonder whether this kind of art is intentionally hideous
It seems that way, the exhibition made a few allusions to the art being used to "reshape" the country, I think it makes sense that if I want a more industry minded country then producing art that uses artificial shapes and materials will subconsciously promote city/industrial life over nature.
Also some other pics from the exhibit I pulled from google.
>>104816
Anything created to pass on an idea or feeling. I would say everything posted in this thread is art, but that doesn't mean that the idea or method the idea is passed on is of good quality.

>>104853
Nothing of this makes me think therefore it is shit.

>>104860
What about photography?

>>104873
makes think a little so it is a little bit of art

This is a really overgeneralized explanation, but basically for most of human history, 'artists' were more like what we would probably call craftsmen. There was a generally accepted standard of what constituted 'good' art, an artist would usually start at a young age and learn from a master, and there was a right way to do it and a wrong way. The pieces being created usually were made at the behest of some kind of patron or public works project, and form was dictated by function: if you lived in ancient Greece and were commissioned to carve a statue of Apollo or something, it was expected to look like every other statue of Apollo, and if you tried to do your own thing with it, then you did it wrong and you would be fired and probably never allowed to sculpt anything again. Even the Renaissance masters generally worked for the Church or for wealthy patrons who needed their portraits painted and stuff like that; they developed a lot of their own techniques but it wasn't intended to be 'expressive' in any way, they studied light and shadow and perspective and figured out the right way to represent people and objects in whatever medium they were working in. By this definition, form is dictated by function and a work of art is more a representation of the artist's culture than the artist himself. There are strict standards of quality that must be met in order for art to be considered art, and for an artist to be considered an artist. See pic 1.

Over the last couple of centuries, the focus of art shifted. Instead of creating a work to satisfy some tangible need like a portrait or beautify some public building like doing a fresco for a church, art gradually became a medium of expression for the artist himself. Basically what we call 'modern' art, which is kind of a broad genre you could dump most of the twentieth and probably some of the nineteenth century into, is an expressive medium: an artist is expected to explore himself and develop his own style. Modern art is (was) expected to be innovative and shocking; if you painted like the old masters you weren't being innovative enough. The more artists explored, the more abstraction became acceptable. By this definition, art is individualistic; function is irrelevant and form is only important insofar as it is able to successfully convey what the artist wanted to convey. The downside of this is that it's degenerative; while it can be interesting to explore ideas this way, the lack of established standards tends to lower the bar for what constitutes art, which means that less talented people are able to become regarded as artists more easily. See pic 2.

Currently, art has moved from being 'modern' to 'postmodern'. The simplest way to explain this is that it's an extension of the modernist ideology, but with a focus on identity expression rather than personal expression. This pretty much represents the utmost degeneration of the concept of what constitutes art; after this it becomes pretty much impossible to make a coherent distinction between art and non-art (it may already be impossible). In postmodern art, both form and function are completely disregarded and the only thing that matters is the social relevance of the idea being conveyed. Literally anything goes because the artistic work itself is not even remotely important, what matters is the group membership of the 'artist' and whether or not the topic of the work is on the left's list of approved topics. A postmodern work could be a flawlessly executed painting on par with Leonardo or Michelangelo, or it could be some fat dyke's used tampon glued to the inside of an old pizza box smeared with diarrhea. The quality of the work doesn't matter, what matters is who created it and why. If the flawlessly executed painting was created by a white male heterosexual, it doesn't matter how good it is, it's not art. The fat lesbian's tampon, however, is a marginalized person's expression of feminist ideology, and is therefore art. That's the age we live in currently. See pic 3.

>>104732
To think I once considered the Nazis overzealous or misguided when they destroyed art they considered "degenerate." Burn it all with fire.

Deviantart is unironically better than this trash. Even the degenerate filth that's on it is about something the artist cares about, a work of fiction that usually has some artistic value.

This is art! This is what creative minds should strive towards, not repulsive, overhyped tripe.

>>104876
You're right.

>>104899
It’s a shame we don’t put this as the pinnacle on art as all artist should strive for nowadays

>>104876
Thanks for the insight, anon. It really is a shame…

>do it by inciting shock on the viewers.
First pic is a social critique probably, and if it is, it's shit because the message is badly executed, if it's not it's just some gay man mad mind, thus not shock art.
Pic 2 and 4 is just plain dumb, in no way you can call that art nor does it express anything, showing your genitals to the world is just exhibitionism, nothing artistic about that, doesn't matter if you dance and stick a light up there while doing so.
Pic 3 is just plain disgusting, it may or may not be trying to deliver a message but the medium in which the person tried to portrait this is absolutely wrong, instead of executing such a thing, painting it in a creative way with some elements on the background helping to send the message would have been a lot better.
The video is actually shocking art, I can't tell what the message is about whitout watching the full play and trying to make sense of it but it does seem like art.
This doesn't meant its good art, shocking art has a tiny market and this in particular seems like a big fuck up.