>>87232Sicily is like Catalonia or they have a real chance?
I'll support anything if it's bad for the EU
>>87232Looks like it's not just going to be the break up of the EU, but the breakup of many modern European nations as well. Maybe we will get this decade's version of the Spring of Nations soon?
>>87255Epona Checked.
Thanks for the info:
>The Revolutions of 1848, known in some countries as the Spring of Nations, People's Spring, Springtime of the Peoples,[3] or the Year of Revolution, were a series of political upheavals throughout Europe in 1848. It remains the most widespread revolutionary wave in European history.
>The revolutions were essentially democratic in nature, with the aim of removing the old feudal structures and creating independent national states. The first revolution began in January in Sicily. Revolutions then spread across Europe after a separate revolution began in France in February. Over 50 countries were affected, but with no coordination or cooperation among their respective revolutionaries. According to Evans and von Strandmann (2000), some of the major contributing factors were widespread dissatisfaction with political leadership, demands for more participation in government and democracy, demands for freedom of press, other demands made by the working class, the upsurge of nationalism, and the regrouping of established governmental forces.[4]–
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848
>What is going on in Spain is the blueprint what what other governments will do. The Spanish people themselves outside of Catalonia are deeply divided. Many see this as offensive and others see the government as offensive. We are looking at the breakup of the USA as well and do not forget the civil war to prevent separatists in America. The real issue is that people ban together for creating society and civilization and then government abuses its power and the process of decline begins. This is throughout history and it really does not matter what culture or country. It is all the same.–
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/spain-is-only-the-blueprint-for-how-all-governments-will-act/I am calling this culturalism. National boundaries no longer reflect cultural boundaries.
>>87272>"What have borders given us?"An easy way to delineate the civilized cultures of the world from the animals.
>>87275The US has been horrifically flooded with kikes, shitskins, arabs, chinks, and worse since 1947. The new FBI estimate of how many criminal aliens reside there is from 52 to 58 million. The index is woefully laughable anyhow. Beyond that, you are not understanding my sarcasm. If borders are a means to control cultures from getting in, then borders are
controlling the culture, period. I am not against borders. I am saying that after WW1 the borders drawn up did not reflect the cultural boundaries. Even after WW2 the borders shifted again.
These shifts have confused where cultures start and end. Then looking at Italy and Spain we see the same thing that cultures and borders are different.
I am not saying don't have borders, I am saying the borders are misplaced in some situations.
This is my assessment from watching events and is not about what I want the world to be. What I want doesn't matter, only pragmatic reality matters.
>>87279Europe has always been a changing land full of conflicts and wars, it's not a surprise that different cultures clash and it's difficult to separate them by just territory. But of course trying to change borders so everyone is happy and in the place they should be is almost impossible. If you want to redraw borders you usually need to do it by having more force than others.
Sicily is a mafia island, the italian has little influence there as it is.
that said, I do support Italy leaving the EU. However, I do not support Sicily seceding from Italy.
Sadly, Italian governments tend be very unstable. Berlusconi is a corrupt fuck, but he kept up the longest governments in a row and at the very least hes not a communist. (as far as i Know)