>1. Media today is filled with works centered around pagan myths and symbolism (mostly promoted by lefties).
>2. Some people develop a new interest in paganism, while in others, old beliefs seem to "reawaken".
>3. Theories begin to spread, claims like "jesus was just a Jew" or "abrahamic religions copied aryan and pagan myths".
>4. Some argue that christianity destroyed the original european civilization rooted in pagan traditions.
>5. This fuels intense clashes between traditional christians and modern pagans.
>6. Cultural and spiritual differences turn into direct conflict. Each side sees the other as a threat.
>7. Movements originally meant to support white identity and cultural unity (like Shiloh Hendrix) become entangled in this chaos, pulled away from their purpose.
>8. Divisions deepen. Each group grows more isolated, more hostile.
>9. Europeans now find themselves caught in an internal spiritual and cultural war, while (((the real enemies))) watch.
Congratulations! Europeans have helped advance a classic part of the "divide and rule" strategy...!
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>>392201I've never seen a cat try to eat plastic. Paper or a broom, yes, but not plastic.
>>392551My cat plays with zipties.
>>390587I get that most people need religion, but this conflict is something that should wait until after victory. I think part of the problem is that many religious people cannot conceptualize how someone else who is not religious or is from a different religion could share similar values.
>>392566This was one reason why I'd mentioned the parallels between pagans and monks meeting and sharing worldviews and literature.
While I am no monastic paragon of Faith, I still find there is an element of control and ignorance in believers as they do not mindfully ascribe to Dogma to guide them towards Providence and Scripture so much as permit corruption guised as Dogma, taught by opportunistic clergy, to enclose and control their lives. Simply put, I think those who are not lukewarm or diluted in some manner are too fanatical and lack the potential for self-growth, making them ripe for exploitation.
That written, when I read your words I cannot help but recognise a number of unwieldy conflations: that people "need" religion, no different than a crutch sooner than an inborn urge, using nomenclature such as "religious people" (with no bearing for what makes each demographic so unique, rather, coalescing them like patients of a specific diagnosis) and the blanket assumption that adherents of such creeds and beliefs are incapable of delineating, or seeing the individuals before their affiliations. I think people from both camps can and will agree on what's best for their nation and the rightful constituency dwelling within it but how would this translate into something productive when we occupy civilisations that willingly incur sectarian conflict and controlled opposition? How do we cut through theological crystallisation and invite people to connect over commonality without entreating needless ecumenism?
What troubles me is what the reality of the situation would be, even after an ideal "victory": shall the Church and its congregants be marginalised and controlled under the auspices of the kirchenampf (the church struggle?) Or will it be obliterated entirely, so ideology may take root and serve the Race, or vice-versa? Do you think it's worth being used as a pawn or sacrificed by your former allies if it means your collective is ceded a smidgen more of political traction?
[Read more] 1) Christianity makes for much stronger nations and societies than paganism.
2) Modern paganism started with the new age movement.
3) The new age movement was promoted and guided by secret societies.
4) Jews and Muslims both despise pagans and are commanded to destroy pagan nations and kill pagans.
5) Paganism is a weak belief system, as followers of pagan gods have weak commitment, having simply decided one day to follow what seems attractive.
5) Pagan nations are ripe for conversion to Islam.
5) Promotion of paganism is a very effective way for outside forces to destroy a nation and take its land.
>>392589Hold on, you just said that secret pagans are running the world AND that Christianity has done neat things, ostensibly permitted by those pagan controllers
>>390732Hitler was an occultist, a member of the Thule Society.
Some seem to believe that the occult is about summoning demons, keeping secret knowledge about paranormal forces, and casting magic missiles. Its not, its about influencing politics and nations.
Hitler was also a Rothschild.
Why would anyone want to turn to Hitler as a figurehead for a political movement, as he got Germany annihilated and Europe destroyed?
>>392590>secret pagans are running the world AND that Christianity has done neat things, ostensibly permitted by those pagan controllersThats a misunderstanding.
Secret societies exercise varying degrees of influence in various places and times. They do not outright run the world. BTW, state intelligence agencies are also secret societies.
Secret societies are not the pagans themselves. Paganism is promoted as a religion by secret societies as part of their manipulation of societies.
Christianity has a problem with control by secret societies, look at the Vatican and today's US evangelicals in regards to Zionism. But those secret societies are not pagans.
>>392594>Hitler was a RothscholdNo, he was, for real
>>392592>paganism is promoted by secret societies*sigh*
No, Paganism answers questions that Monotheism/Abrahamism neglects
>>392594>source for Hitler was a RothschildCan't find any, only debunking articles. Maybe its just an antisemitic conspiracy theory like they say. So I'll take that back.
>>392596>paganism is promoted by secret societies>Paganism answers questions that Monotheism/Abrahamism neglectsThese two claims are not mutually exclusive.
>>392598>Maybe its just an antisemitic conspiracy theory like they sayYou meant an anti-German and anti-Nationalist slander.
>So I'll take that back.Thank you. Also please save the memes for future use.
>>392599>paganism is promoted by secret societiesAs I know, the main one is masonry and its many branches, from America, going through Iran and reaching China. And the main theme is Judaism for the goyim as always is about the Salomon king and rebuilding the "Temple". A secondary one to which the British royals look very fond is Druidism.
>>392601The compass/square is the 'masculine' side of Masonry, and the pentagram/star denotes the Order of the Eastern Star (literally, a direct and deliberate reference of Lucifer/Venus)
>>392610>masons repurposed the pentagram to mean satanSo masonry is just a fork of christianity?
>>392663>>392665It's neither.
The secularism and decentralization did create opportunities for Jews to infiltrate business and engineering firms though.
>>392667>It's neither.Technically speaking, christianity is a sect of judaism, and masonry too.
>>392669Modern (Talmudic) Judaism is also a distant, but oppositional branch of ancient Judaism. Descended from the Pharisees, it prescribes interpretation as superior in precedent to written scripture. This distinction is important since Christians are the spiritual descendants of the ancient Jews due to the Covenant being fulfilled and renewed through Christ. I am not sure how Masonry plays into this but similar to occultism and gnostic beliefs it seems to be a syncretic mixture of different practices.
There are two types of souls:
1. souls that yearn for union
2. souls that yearn for dominion
Religion (re-ligare, to re-unite), as well as the modern expression of it (identity) is an attempt at experiencing unity for the former group who don't realize that the entire thing is controlled for the benefit of the latter group.
So in effect you have all these ideologies competing with each other to literally achieve the same thing and thereby undermining each other for the benefit of the few who desire dominion.
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>>392843>So in effect you have all these ideologies competing with each otherGive an actual example for clarification.
>>392843>you have all these ideologies competing with each other to literally achieve the same thing and thereby undermining each other for the benefit of the few who desire dominionOh, it's way worse than that. Do you think the very religious weren't infiltrated from day one? Do you think the religions themselves AREN'T a much older version of the very same pathetic dynamic of 'political parties'? Vote Republican! Vote democrat!
Vote Jesus, Vote Muhammad!
All the while, people vying for and occupying what positions of power are the same people seeking dominion.
>>392843I like how Max Stirner puts this: religion, among many examples which he'd call "spooks", is an ideal that someone puts above and against themself, possesing them and making them act in the interest of the spook rather than their own interests. One can only begin to act as their own by identifying and ridding oneself of all spooks, and to not bow down to other egoists like gods or kings or presidents, but to be an egoist oneself.
>>393117"Spooks" can be advantageous for group survival. We simply couldn't have a society with everyone acting only in the interest of themselves.
>>393274>We simply couldn't have a society with everyone acting only in the interest of themselves.This is exactly how the jew rules.
And the last post, a Pagan call.
The Gods created a semi-human figure filled with vice and called Nigger.
>>393397Whenever I'm feeling low, I just picture HP Lovecraft relaxing in his house writing racist poetry.
>>393274Stirner accounts for that, in what he calls a "union of egoists." You don't need spooks to have common intesrests and goals.
>>393406Something like that couldn't exist for the average person. The average person does not understand what is in his best interests or how to work towards a better society. Just look at the U.S. where like 40% of adults believe the rapture is near. How could such people ever hope to participate in your society? Stupid people will work against the interests of not only the group, but themselves if left unchecked.
>>393412It's not a single, unified Union of Egoists everyone must be obligated to participate in. It effectively amounts to a friend group where people join and leave on their own accord. If you've ever got together with friends to build something because you each wanted to see it built--meaning no one needed to pay anyone anything other than helping in the building process--that's was basically a Union of Egoists.
The dumbs can have their religion, society, consumer identities, guilt, etc..., while egoists can get together and consider themselves solely with their own interests and the overlap of such. Simple as. To me it seems more efficient and life has been less stressful since I've started letting go of spooks I don't want--mainly worrying if stuff I like is sausage or pretentious or whatnot--and taking on spooks I think are fun, like candle magic (an opportunity to decorate) and grimoire-making (an opportunity to do gothic calligraphy).
It's like that Marie Kondo cleaning method people were raving about when COVID started but for your head, "keep only what sparks joy" or some shit like that.
>>393117>and to not bow down to other egoists like gods or kings or presidents, but to be an egoist oneselfif you become an egoist yourself, you compete with all the others
but if you allow the things that define the ego to gradually fall away, you come closer in harmony with everything else.
And you start to develop a hidden correspondence with something formless that guides you through life: faith.
The genius of those who seek dominion is that they took spiritual truth and twisted it to benefit themselves. They took man's natural inclination towards seeking the divine to enslave him.
>>390587>>1. Media today is filled with works centered around pagan myths and symbolism (mostly promoted by lefties).I am not sure I understand this phenomenon. Can you give examples?
what if god does exist and he is actually just an actual fucking asshole
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he created jews and niggers , so he definitely is an asshole
>>393790He Created Aryans too, Brainlet
>>393790>what if god does exist and he is actually just an actual fucking assholeDid you consider the Simulation Theory, or perhaps that this realm is a prison?
>>>/vx/166509 → >>393857>He Created Aryans tooAnd he punished us by adding jews cause he be trolling
>>393859yeah i heard something similar that this life is the actual hell and we are here to be tortured over and over
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why i am france now? i hate france
>>393864funnily enough before you post , i do actually believe in that , humans came from somewhere else
we are literally anti-earth with our behaviour nature
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there is no fucking way white people became black over 50,000 years , especially when africa was not that deserted for couple of thousand years
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i was reading about evolution of language , you can literally see , white language (indo-aryans and western aryans) has nothing to do with the rest of the planet
races are not related
>pic relatedwe all use alphabetical system , while easterners use symbolism and africans use some type of typography or hierogryph
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i always suggest people to read adrian frutiger's books , they are awesome
https://archive.org/details/signs-and-symbols-their-design-and-meaning-by-adrian-frutiger-andrew-bluhm-z-lib.org [Read more] >>393865sorry if it is not really related to the subject of the thread
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good now i am in germany again, yay
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The story of yakuub for White people.
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>the different groups than "hurr, we're all human". This also alludes to jeets
Yeah, those jeets. I always wondered how a wretched species could achieve some impressive engineering. Obviously the ancient builders were not in any form related to the current species.
>>393876>Obviously the ancient builders were not in any form related to the current species.Or centuries of race mixing then inbreeding.