/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>386538
>>386543
are the two of you retarded? Server costs for 4chan are estimated to be between 50 000 and 200 000 dollars a month. And you believe they didn't update their backend? And for some magical reason in the last 10 years they never got hacked? Don't you think that sounds ludicrous? Are you two vaxed?

>>386546
Nigger, literally their whole fucking backed was leaked, its full of shit from past, hell even for mysql interfacing it uses "mysql" module which was deemed unsafe shit almost 2 decades ago and replaced with "mysqli" module. By your logic you give tard a ferrari and he becomes good driver because it costs a lot.

>>386546
It’s an objectively proven fact that they didn’t update the code though. The hack was achieved entirely because of a vulnerability discovered in the early 2010s that was patched through updates that would have been available when Moot was still in charge. The fact that the hack occurred proves how outdated it was.

>Would Hiro really spend money on server upkeep but not also pay coders?
Absolutely. I suspect that the amount of money received from advertisements wasn’t super high. He was probably annoyed that he had to pay for server upkeep and so didn’t want to pay any more money to update a code that was perceived as good enough. I mean, you clearly think that the code was good enough, and you’re not the one who would have to pay money to update the code.

>>386552
>Nigger, literally their whole fucking backed was leaked
what makes you so sure they didn't simply leak a snapshot from 10 years ago? Did you read the entire thing?
>>386554
>It’s an objectively proven fact that they didn’t update the code though
to say that is one thing, to show proof of it, another
>I suspect that the amount of money received from advertisements wasn’t super high
nigger
4chan didn't even have a donation system
Back in 2016, Hiro was in the news because of money shortages. Then after Trump wins, Hiro goes completely silent forever and never again do you see a news article about 4chan being on the brink of bankruptcy. Why is that you think? Because someone started funding them in 2017. Hiro took a deal from the old elite's glowniggers. Do you think it's coincidence that 4chan gets "hacked" when USAID gets nuked?
How much more anomalies and coincidences do you need to open your eyes? What is your vax status, I'm serious.
See picrel >>386479

>>386568
If it's because Hiro ran out of money then he could just out out a hat and beg for donations, and he'd get tens of millions. Or make 4chan a subscription service, and people would pay that.

>>386570
he did run out of money
and then after 2017, the problem was 'magically' fixed. There was no news report of new investors or board members or shares or whatever. Gookmoot simply took a deal because the US elite pressured him into it. Why do you think he's been silent all this time?
The US elite didn't want to take down 4chan. They wanted to gain control over it, or at best: neutralise its grassroots political power. On the one hand they kept funding the site to make sure it stayed up. On the other hand they funded shill campaigns and botnets to achieve concensus cracking in order to divide the userbase amongst itself. And of course they also welcomed jewish, chinese, european and russian glowniggers to spam their filth too.
As such, they were able to keep all of us there while making most of our time spent there, utterly meaningless and unproductive.

>>386568
>what makes you so sure they didn't simply leak a snapshot from 10 years ago? Did you read the entire thing?
It has leftover code from april fool's in recent years and special-cased checks against spam referencing boards and generals created recently.
>to say that is one thing, to show proof of it, another
The entire site going down because the backend was so old isn't proof enough for you?
Unless you're going for the "it's a psyop and entirely fake" angle, in which case they still obviously wouldn't have leaked 10 year old code, they'd have just leaked completely fake code.

>USAID
It's entirely possible to be funded by the government and still be incompetent, you know. Don't underestimate the poor security practices of lazy, incompetent sysadmins, even ones on government payroll.

>>386568
>durr its snapshot
who the fuck takes snapshots of running code, i understand database snapshots/backups, but who the fuck uses snapshots of software, specially in current year where you can deploy shit straight from git. Fucking hell, if you need recovery option of stack, then just have image in hand, pump that in and after that database backup and be fucking done. And if they have tardshots, then why isn't it up yet? Oh right, programming sphere is constantly getting shittier and shittier so i guess current nuwebshitters can'¨t get anything done without containers on cloud services and then snapshot those.

>>386570
>Or make 4chan a subscription service, and people would pay that.
I doubt that would work, /vip/ and pass pretty much is such system already and turning it fully into paid services would just make majority of people run into altchans and if paypigs don't have anyone to talk to, they will also leave. One finnish chan went full retard with monetizing and it sprouted few altchans and pretty much destroyed itself, they rolled back some jewery but damage was already done and it doesn't seem to recover.

>>386574
> Don't underestimate the poor security practices of lazy, incompetent sysadmins, even ones on government payroll.
this operation wasn't on the government's payroll through official channels. The money probably came from US taxpayers, but through obscure channels, untraceable, or at least difficult to trace. Maybe they nuked it because they got cold feet (and not solely because they lost their funds).

Regardless, I highly doubt that incompetence would be tolerated in a domestic (and foreign) psychological operation of that magnitude.

>>386585
The donkey show is 100% on government payroll in some form. DOGE's value is using AI to trace banking transactions. Trump will be able to see exactly where intelligence agency dollars have flowed, and to who. Even across mediums like normal banks or Bitcoin.

>>386479
>No one in the past 8 years has been getting red pilled from visiting /pol/
Many people have, they go there, get red pilled, then spread the red pill in either twitter or discord with their normie friends. Just because you haven't, doesn't mean it wasn't happening.

>>386651
Don't you think more people fell for the slop?

>>386633
>using AI to trace banking transactions
>use to test for incorrect government spending
This could be good.

I'm still worried for it's potential for misuse if they enslave everyone with government cryptocurrency.

>>386664
Imgine one of those missmanaged transactions is only a note reading the guy used the 1 trillion dollar budget just to buy a sandwich.
Like, we have 1 trillion dollars, one extra sandwich won't throw the company over the cliff.

>>386672
First its one sandwich, then it's two; and others see the sandwiches being given away unpaid and there's three, four, five, and so on
Thats how we ended up in this mess.

>>386537
>Do you actually believe a company that pays 50 000 - 200 000 dollars every month in server costs has a vulnerability like that?
Sound like gookmoot took the money and run as in run the site into the ground

>>386683
They must've been good sandwiches

>>386445
I dont see this info detailed here besides a passing comment. >>385526

So dropping these caps while browsing from 8 skimming for refugees and I got curious if the tripfaggot thread on /poner/ from /trash/ existed on the bunker. I didn't find them funny enough, maybe they dodged a bullet by coming here.

But In moes /trash/ sticky I found a full confirmation of OP, as the 1st pic.

Further info on the shilling brigade. Admins should keep an eye on this from spreading, like nhnb like a containment thread like nhnb decided to do, or just nuke it with a rule banning it.

>>386082 >>386440
As discussed earlier, 8moe experiencing a serious uptick of bbc style posts, pic2 is anthro blacked from /trash/ and they have SIX blacked generals, along with bbc spam across the site. The moe/trash/ board owner Sarcophagus is not going to do anything about it, because he has the zookeepers mind, "this is how /trash/ always was" he doesn't understand the situation, or he wasn't around for when it wasn't full of blacked posts

In general they're dragging their feet on 4chan and they don't fucking care. GrapeApe has a nigger fetish and always allowed bbc bots to spam 4chan board. Now shilling the hell out of 8chan with the same degeneracy, any altchan may catch some level of it as mlpol and nhnb did. This is confirming there's a redirection of shill resources that was used on 4chan.

The stripedfaggotry thread here >>>/poner/988 → and >>>/qa/9440 → pops up around the same time as the rest of these threads on 8chan, all intentionally ignoring old containment boards and general board etiquette.

They are intentionally trashing 8chan up to drive people to the donkey show with disingenuous complaints so they can get everyone in the honeypot with the malicious js. The complaint goes beyond /trash/. And it's totally inorganic shilling, well coordinated spamming and is getting called out. nhnbs owner probably doesnt know what hes in for, but anons from mlpol are better weathered for this kinda shit.

>>386855
does pupperwoff have a captcha at the ready in the case of bots?

>>386855
Thanks for the heads up. Why there got to be so many faggots in this world?
Keep us updated on what happening to the other chans,

>>386855
What do I do if I've already posted there in the past?

>>386855
>first pic
So it is a fingerprinter, as expected. Nice to know.

>>386906
Well basically they can track you easily, so ideally don't go there again, unless you want them to know it's you regardless of your IP/cookies/etc. (e.g. if you reset your cookies, they'll still identify you and they'll also see you tried to reset your cookies). Though as long as you're aware that you're being tracked, in theory nothing bad will happen if you visit again - just bear in mind that they can see your entire posting history - but especially in the short term that can basically be expected because you'd probably still have the same cookies (unless you intentionally deleted them).
IMHO this is particularly bad long-term: if, in like a couple of years you use the same computer to visit their site again, maybe even with a new browser or with old cookies long since deleted and on a brand new IP (maybe even with a different internet plan), as long as the computer is the same there's a good chance they'll still get a fingerprint match and be able to link you as the same poster as right now. It's insiduous and you don't expect it, so it's worth knowing and remembering.

The other potential major issue with tracking in general is if the tracking is cross-site, allowing other websites to identify you who you are. This is prevalent in ad networks, e.g. if you don't block facebook and google scripts, an overwhelming amount of normie websites include tracker scripts from those so now facebook and google can collect your entire posting history across most of the internet. (Incidentally, a few years ago I had a brief stint as a web dev in the adtech industry, and apparently among "reputable" companies - including big tech - fingerprinting was considered unethical enough to be worth avoiding just to be safe from scandals, so you could expect at least google and facebook etc. to just use "normal" methods like cookies. At least back then. Who knows what it's like now.)
Anyway, back on topic, in this case here it's unlikely the party is affiliated with any other important websites. The 'ki and 'ru on the same domain can probably be assumed to be affecte (I haven't seen any evidence of this but why wouldn't they be, it's literally the same people running them on the same domain), but other than that, it's probably not a big concern. Although if the entire site really is a glownigger operation, maybe they could be sharing fingerprints with other glownigger sites, who knows.

There's also the " 'cord scanner" (which, I'm assuming, can only possibly work if you run the standalone discord app - there's no way a port scan should be able to detect discord in a browser tab). And that screenshot claims it might come with exploits too, allegedly. But I don't care much about that, it's only a concern for discord trannies anyway and surely we don't have those here right?

>>386909
That is... really fucking scary. I do use discord occasionally but this shitty laptop can only run either the web browser or discord at a time, does OS have anything to do with it as well? I run a version of Linux a year or two out of date. I know well enough not to visit that site again though. Thanks for the advice

>>386909
>Although if the entire site really is a glownigger operation, maybe they could be sharing fingerprints with other glownigger sites, who knows.
if it's a glownigger operation, they harvest intelligence data on (you) and cross reference this with social media profiles. If they get a match, they know who you are. If you're a person of note (powerful) they'll use this information if they need to blackmail you. I'm pretty sure a fuckton of (((free))) porn sites are glownigger operations. And you can rest assured that big tech shares their data with intelligence agencies. But it probably happens unofficially. And we all know that modern CPU's are backdoored at the hardware level.
Keep in mind that glowniggers exist to circumvent the law. Everything they do is illegal. So there are no boundaries they wouldn't cross in order to achieve their goals.

>>386910
>I do use discord occasionally but this shitty laptop can only run either the web browser or discord at a time
So you should be safe then, there should not be any feasible way for the javascript to do anything after the website is closed so if you don't have standalone discord open at the time it won't do anything.
>does OS have anything to do with it as well?
For discord, probably not - I honestly kind of doubt the exploit claim, but if it's true, it would exploit the discord app directly which is a cross-platform electron app. (Basically it's literally just the website packaged in a standalone web browser, which is the shittiest fucking way to write desktop software but is really popular nowadays because you write your website once and it works anywhere, web, desktop, mobile, etc..)

>I run a version of Linux a year or two out of date
Bro just updoot, what's holding you back?
Is your browser up to date at least? That's pretty important, if your browser is modern then getting hacked by a website is extremely unlikely unless you're personally targeted by a nation state, but if your browser is out of date enough it becomes increasingly likely. Not just from soyjaks but from literally any website you visit that might either be shady itself or load some shady tracker scripts or whatever (even major mainstream news sites have been known to accidentally distribute malware ads at points). I really hope your browser is up to date anon.

But do update your OS too.

>>386911
True, and also actual, real glowniggers can probably track you just fine without you having to visit a soy shitposting website.

>>386916
>True, and also actual, real glowniggers can probably track you just fine without you having to visit a soy shitposting website.
in theory they can backdoor into pretty much every server you can imagine so yeah, if they wanted to, they could track you without you having to visit the soy. But those kinds of ops are probably more expensive/risky.

>>386906
If you posted there the advice is a full format wipe, many retards already decided to end up there and didn't practice enough OPSEC.

This is very much a repeat of what was done with endchan years ago before and during Trumps first presidency to drive people off 8chan net and onto malicious splinters with complaints about 8net moderation, while causing the problems themselves.

The new pysop bait is about how a board on 8chan moe is dead, and the mods suck (which can be true, or can have bullshit reasons) but that you should just use their honeypot with the lowest moderation interference.

Glowniggers are counting on the fact that 4chan fags are not going to have this kind of past knowledge on how 8chan net was shilled. And are betting on exploiting the majority of anons who never left 4chan to explore bunkers off 4chan, this is true even for /mlpol/ which was just a merger of 2 4chan boards as a joke.

>>387005
>If you posted there the advice is a full format wipe
This would only be true if they had pretty insane levels of either competence or black exploit market access - for example if they were ran by a malicious three-letter agency.
But in that case the same could've just been done on 4chan years ago. There are many reasons to glow-up a site switch but if all they wanted was to burn a 0-day on a bunch of anons, they absolutely wouldn't have needed to do this.

So, safely assuming no 0-days, a wipe is quite unnecessary - provided your browser isn't out of date and vulnerable.

>>387011
Soiniggers are older than just /qa/ shitposting and have deep ties to glows. They pulled the same thing on 8chan net when /intl/ was a thing and was the proto-soifaggot HQ. I would always bet on preparing for the worst from this group. The shill playbook doesn't change much at all it just gets a new name and new direction like the CIA loves to do with shell companies that obfuscate their actual purpose.

>>387016
Maybe but again, it's just not technically possible - unless you're a glow, and you're not gonna sit here and tell me glows were itching for a chance to distribute malware to a bunch of users but somehow Hiro of all people turned out to be a bulwark of integrity and refused. Not happening.

>>385833
You are vastly overestimating the redpilling power of 4chan. The only two other people I know of IRL that are antisemitic are two of my friends, and they got redpilled through instagram. If stopping antisemitism is the goal they set out to achieve by closing down 4chan (assuming the CIA really did it, which is unlikely), i'd say they're doing a pretty shit job.
Most likely 4chan closing down, is just because some 400 pound shitskin loser over at the soyjak donkey show thingy thought it would be funny to do it, and used the fact the site was rotting code wise for over a decade. Glowies do bad things, and it's healthy to notice, but too much pattern recognition is schizophrenia.
/pol/ was shit anyways, and full of MOSSAD bot farms, it's not like the CIA would gain much by closing it down, quite the contrary, it would anger some agents at the MOSSAD, and that's like the one line they won't cross at the CIA.

>>387019
>You are vastly overestimating the redpilling power of 4chan. The only two other people I know of IRL that are antisemitic are two of my friends, and they got redpilled through instagram.

That didn't just happen in a vacuum, though. Instagram is 2nd tier in terms of new things, at best. I would say antisemitism first came about because of Stormfront, then it got to 4chan, and from there, it got to everywhere else, including Instagram. Just like how all the videos you see on Reels have a Tik Tok logo on them, Instagram gets the second run of stuff that was created elsewhere.

>>386911
Yup. And if you don't have any blackmail they will try to make it. The donkey show tried to blackmail me by making it look like I talked sexually with minors on discord.
>>387005
Yeah you can see the donkey show advertising everywhere. I guarantee tamers12345 is one of their fronts for recruiting teens to groom.
>>387011
>>387017
They are glowie backed and do have access to hacking tools. 4chan can't deploy mass hacks because someone would notice. Soyniggers can hack people because they stay under the radar. Reminder the government mandates American AV companies not detect their own spyware. Kasperky AV was banned partially because it detected FBI keyloggers.

>>387017
4chan glowing was one of the reasons people wouldn't use it on 8chan net. but it can always get worse with instead of the outdated shitware like the 4chan source that hasn't been touched in a decade.

It's not just about profiling, 0days, V& or malware either, they love to pull a bait and switch when under the /intl/ umbrella and lead naïve or disgruntled people to their side with seemingly valid concerns about how bad moderation (was or is) and then turn their shilling inward against the people who took the bait

>>387024
>The party tried to blackmail me by making it look like I talked sexually with minors on discord.
I'm sorry mate but if you've got a discord identity and it's somehow linked to your chan posting, you literally only have yourself to blame.

>>387024
>tamers recruits children for donkey show groomers
>my discord was abused to make it look like I'm a child predator
Schizophrenic retard who talks to children on discord detected.

>>387022
Sure, maybe it has spread from 4chan, but it doesn't live off the back of 4chan, Antisemitism is now on both 4chan and Twitter, 4chan is not needed anymore, it has spread to bigger platforms, not that I don't want 4chan back, I do. But 4chan now is pretty much useless in terms of spreading antisemitism. It's unefficient, cluncky, and full of feds. Whereas all the other platforms are just midly efficient, working fine, and not with as many feds per user. If anything, /pol/ was more useful as a lightning rod, driving funds away from 3 letters agencies.

>>387011
>There are many reasons to glow-up a site switch
to remove the paper trail

>>386446
This video seems cool, does the guy behind it have more like these?

>>387028
It's deeper than my "4chan being tied to discord." It involves Sam Hyde, Freemasons harassing me, and more. They have zero dirt on me so they had to make it up so I'd beg for forgiveness. Check the 8/b thread on the donkey show spamming blacked and you can see they are still targeting me and seething, because trannies can't do shit. This is over a year later and they are still seething at me specifically.

>>387030
Hello tamers tranny. Go back to the donkey show. You guys gotta stop using "schizo" as your primary insult because it makes you easy to recognize. You're going to federal prison lol. Your glownigger bosses burned you.

>>387032
>4chan is not needed anymore
actually it very much is needed, because when there are new "developments", you'd ideally want to discuss it at the source, than have to deal with information that's already been through filters/layers.

>>387032
Just because you can be antisemitic on Twitter in the current decade does not mean anonymous message boards don't have a very important niche on the internet.

>>387035
Please go back to the donkey show. isn't it time for you to spam some blacked porn

>>387035
How the fuck did you get yourself linked to sam hyde of all fucking things. Are you a humongous retard or something?
I stand by what I said, skill issue.

>>387040
Sam was having his shown shilled on /tv/ and other boards, so I wouldn't be surprised if anon is one of those that noticed it, called it out, and got added to some glowie naughty list or something

>>387035
My primary insult is "nigger," I break out "schizophrenic" when I run into a delusional retard. You wouldn't know a glownigger if he was stuck to the bumper of your charity case shitbox.

>>387040
When COVID hit I worked at a hospital. Most people didn't know there were religious exceptions to COVID testing in addition to the vaccine. I applied, which means I would need to be forced into a WFH job, which was also a promotion. They refused and I threatened a federal human rights lawsuit.

This got the attention of Freemasons, who immediately doxxed my face in a local newspaper. They hired me in AZ (I wanted to move there anyways), just before Sam Hydes fishtank started (like 3 months.) They tried using romantic bait to get me to join the Freemasons. They have broken into my house, stolen from me, damaged my property, and have the authorization of the US government through Peter Thiel (CIA Zionist.) that's how they are able to disable my home security system and view my online account histories via the backend.

Tl;Dr I tried to use COVID to squeeze a promotion from a hospital and instead the Freemasons, backed by the CIA have been harassing me and ruining my life ever since. Instead of getting a new job a state over I get romantic baited, attempted blackmailed, threatened, and it's all with the backing of the US intelligence agencies. Instead of getting a recruit they have burned multiple Freemason cells.

>>387051
Glowies and masons seem to be getting away with pretty much anything, unless it's other glowie or mason that's burning them out. Really fucked

>>387040
Specific examples of digital harassment that is only capable with Intel agency backing
>Joining a TF2 MvM server to talk about obscure fishtank references relating to romantic bait
>Referencing an old vocaloid song I listened to 10 years ago on an unused Google account, and saying "(ok now we know which ID is (anon))" no suspicious logins, they have backend access warrants to Google
>Knowing which discord servers I join then following me there to make fishtank references and attempt blackmail
That was specifically the kike AZGChip and his shitty writer friend Blondie Anon. They were working directly with Cameron Williams from Sam Hydes crew
>Randomly joining L4D2 servers to shit talk me in particular for no reason
>Randomly going on 4chan threads and replying to me with hate for no reason
>Doing the same on 8chan, basically digital stalking me to shit on me if I do anything creative

William Osman is a Freemason who's made a couple direct references to me too. He's in the Freemason club, picrel. I'm not bowing to a child rapist club because funny silly YouTube man wants to pander to me.

>>387052
Yeah which is why I'm not afraid of them. If they keep escalating I will too. They have already ruined my life. It's a virtual prison where I'm not allowed to do ANYTHING. So I'm gonna keep talking about their agents...

>>387035
Just make a new pseudonym and start over, you don't need to be the next Chris-chan just because you're too prideful to take mean words from queers inside your phone. Being an eceleb isn't worth the stress this is clearly putting you through.