Hey faggots! Mare Fair is obviously over, which means now is the perfect time if not already done so to begin the steps and plans to go toward/into Mare Faire 2025.
Personal plans are free to be discussed and developed, but speciically I'm encouraging plans/discussion for how to improve the site's visibility and public profile.
Mare Fair seems amongus the best spurces for potential new/old users, as well as ample opportunty for quasi-board related shenanigens.
In particular, there seems to be a decent potential for a publicly scheduled meetup (with complimentary elastic-strig and paper anon masks, in green and orange), if not a full-on /mlpol/ panel.
Not to mention the potential of randomly annexing areas, events, etc.
Think about it, there's plenty of potential to show the fandom - particularly the anonymous part - that theres still fun to be had here and I'm interested in discussing how to make that happen.
/mlpol/ - My Little Politics
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>>377455
Let me put it this way: if I was one of those crazy leftist Twitter retards, I would have already been able to do irreparable damage to the ability of people on site to attend the con, just by what's publicly available
Let me put it this way: if I was one of those crazy leftist Twitter retards, I would have already been able to do irreparable damage to the ability of people on site to attend the con, just by what's publicly available
>>377458
There will be plenty of context on my end to allow for organic and innocuous collaboration in person, and as things become more determinate over time, allusions will be made, but yeah; it seems in everyone's best interest to accept/respect the optics
There will be plenty of context on my end to allow for organic and innocuous collaboration in person, and as things become more determinate over time, allusions will be made, but yeah; it seems in everyone's best interest to accept/respect the optics
I mean, not to dickride or anything, but I imagine Snowpity mgmt would appreciate the consideration/accommodation
Curses, now there's another idea. This one might fly though
Okay, so one idea that probably wouldn't get anyone banned and might be tacitly accepted - though a bit on the onerous side (not egregiously) for anyone putting it on (would volunteer/captain) - would be a Denver Broncos themed pancake breakfast/banquet, ostensibly after closing ceremonies.
>>377457
maybe as mlpol representatives, but the only people who know I'm from this board AND know what I look like/my fandom name are the people from this board and a few guys at the aryanne meetup I shilled it to
maybe as mlpol representatives, but the only people who know I'm from this board AND know what I look like/my fandom name are the people from this board and a few guys at the aryanne meetup I shilled it to
>>377464
Fair and appreciated, but without being able to go into detail, allow me to suggest that I can't explain ITT why it is in everyone's best interest to not cause a fuss with Snowpity. If you want to reach out on discord (I assume I'm obvious enough) I might go into specifics, but I hope you'll appreciate that I really do enjoy shenanigens, and would wantonly plan/engage if doing so wouldnt inevitably cause consequence for others
Fair and appreciated, but without being able to go into detail, allow me to suggest that I can't explain ITT why it is in everyone's best interest to not cause a fuss with Snowpity. If you want to reach out on discord (I assume I'm obvious enough) I might go into specifics, but I hope you'll appreciate that I really do enjoy shenanigens, and would wantonly plan/engage if doing so wouldnt inevitably cause consequence for others
>>377487
Then I hope you appreciate that I can neither explain why nor do anything short of discouraging any site-specific activity at Mare Fair
Then I hope you appreciate that I can neither explain why nor do anything short of discouraging any site-specific activity at Mare Fair
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Does anyone think I might be kicked out if I made an Aryanne suit sans windmill and wore an Argentina football jersey over the top of it?
Mare Fair is a very long time from now. What does anyone think of a meet up or a room party at Harmony Con next February?
>>377583
While not planning to attend HarmonyCon in any overnight sort of capacity, I'd gladly participate in any meetups, since it's close-ish. I'd even bring food!
While not planning to attend HarmonyCon in any overnight sort of capacity, I'd gladly participate in any meetups, since it's close-ish. I'd even bring food!
>>377587
Okay, so this thread is here, might as well make use of it. Enough of my plans for Mare Fair overlap with other conventions, and are specific to me with no site collaboration or intent.
So the biggest difficulty in planning to offer delicious food to people at conventions is:
1. You can't do it anywhere public or incur significant civil liability and potential legal/criminal proceedings.
2. One's prospective audience has little to no warning that it will be a thing.
3. When the food is free then efficiency, quality, and consistency are of paramount importance.
Because of the need for travel to [~]Mare Fair[/~] large furry convention that definitely isn't Mare Fair, it would be necessary that most if-not-all cooking be done prior to travel to the event. Small things like sauces can be made on the fly (and with the most basic of wall-socket equipment) but anything requiring a day or more or extensive equipment/process will need to be pre-made and likely vaccuum-sealed.
For HarmonyCon, I'm thinking something simple like carnitas tacos, though if there's enough anti-pork sus sentiment, suadero-style brisket is almost as good. theres a fun story behind that.
All the sauces and cheeses and creams:3, and salsas, and murderspice sauces, salt and lime, pickled onions,....
I'ma blow up faces with flavor.
But this is just the plan for HC, which was only conceived of weeks ago.
For totally-not MF', I want to have a menu.
3-4 types of tacos (Suadero Chicken, Brisket, Carnitas, and?), 2-3 types of grilled cheese (short rib, chopped italian*, and 3-6(?) cheese with tomato consomme), smash burgers (with basic, intermediate, and autistic levels of ingredients and technique), and tbd.
*chopped italian can be served veggie-only for the sissies, or with crisped-up pepperoni
Okay, so this thread is here, might as well make use of it. Enough of my plans for Mare Fair overlap with other conventions, and are specific to me with no site collaboration or intent.
So the biggest difficulty in planning to offer delicious food to people at conventions is:
1. You can't do it anywhere public or incur significant civil liability and potential legal/criminal proceedings.
2. One's prospective audience has little to no warning that it will be a thing.
3. When the food is free then efficiency, quality, and consistency are of paramount importance.
Because of the need for travel to [~]Mare Fair[/~] large furry convention that definitely isn't Mare Fair, it would be necessary that most if-not-all cooking be done prior to travel to the event. Small things like sauces can be made on the fly (and with the most basic of wall-socket equipment) but anything requiring a day or more or extensive equipment/process will need to be pre-made and likely vaccuum-sealed.
For HarmonyCon, I'm thinking something simple like carnitas tacos, though if there's enough anti-pork sus sentiment, suadero-style brisket is almost as good. theres a fun story behind that.
All the sauces and cheeses and creams:3, and salsas, and murderspice sauces, salt and lime, pickled onions,....
I'ma blow up faces with flavor.
But this is just the plan for HC, which was only conceived of weeks ago.
For totally-not MF', I want to have a menu.
3-4 types of tacos (Suadero Chicken, Brisket, Carnitas, and?), 2-3 types of grilled cheese (short rib, chopped italian*, and 3-6(?) cheese with tomato consomme), smash burgers (with basic, intermediate, and autistic levels of ingredients and technique), and tbd.
*chopped italian can be served veggie-only for the sissies, or with crisped-up pepperoni
>>377627
Tacos will be intended to be served gratis (we're frens now), but anything else will be broken down to a simple reduction of cost per individual serving; a chopped italian grilled cheese comes to like $3.20/each, and a basic smashed burger is <$2 if single (4.5oz) patty.
Tacos will be intended to be served gratis (we're frens now), but anything else will be broken down to a simple reduction of cost per individual serving; a chopped italian grilled cheese comes to like $3.20/each, and a basic smashed burger is <$2 if single (4.5oz) patty.
>>377628
you mentioned legal liabilities and then decided to charge money which is exactly what opens you up to legal liabilities. Instead of this, tell people that if they want to participate in the potluck they need to bring food or drink
you mentioned legal liabilities and then decided to charge money which is exactly what opens you up to legal liabilities. Instead of this, tell people that if they want to participate in the potluck they need to bring food or drink
>>377629
I mentioned legal liabilities for vending in public, yes. Also, these are theoretical values.
A potluck is a great idea imo, Im just offering free tacos. Unless youre talking about bigger con idea.
I mentioned legal liabilities for vending in public, yes. Also, these are theoretical values.
A potluck is a great idea imo, Im just offering free tacos. Unless youre talking about bigger con idea.
If you're wondering the distinction, it has to do with "public vs. private"
>>377627
>But this is just the plan for HC, which was only conceived of weeks ago.
>
>For totally-not MF', I want to have a menu.
>3-4 types of tacos (Suadero Chicken, Brisket, Carnitas, and?), 2-3 types of grilled cheese (short rib, chopped italian*, and 3-6(?) cheese with tomato consomme), smash burgers (with basic, intermediate, and autistic levels of ingredients and technique), and tbd.
>
>*chopped italian can be served veggie-only for the sissies, or with crisped-up pepperoni
For aake of knobs who cant into context not for the first time
>But this is just the plan for HC, which was only conceived of weeks ago.
>
>For totally-not MF', I want to have a menu.
>3-4 types of tacos (Suadero Chicken, Brisket, Carnitas, and?), 2-3 types of grilled cheese (short rib, chopped italian*, and 3-6(?) cheese with tomato consomme), smash burgers (with basic, intermediate, and autistic levels of ingredients and technique), and tbd.
>
>*chopped italian can be served veggie-only for the sissies, or with crisped-up pepperoni
For aake of knobs who cant into context not for the first time
If we're referring to the "Not MF" plan, the legal insularity comes partially from that the 4-varieties of tacos (and sauces and all) will be for free.
Specialty ingredients - and thereby dishes - will have a collaborative resource cost (wherein there is an implied incorporation between myself and the resource presenter: I do the sourcing and cooking, the person pays cost of acquisition only, no profit).
Its LLC law, writ smol
And as to why alot of the menu is "tbd", its cuz what is capable to be made will depend first on what is wanting to be made. Looking at ingredients, having tacos available leads to over 2 dozen options for protein, starch, sauces/oils, etc.
This is why the idea for HC is to focus on tacos only
Specialty ingredients - and thereby dishes - will have a collaborative resource cost (wherein there is an implied incorporation between myself and the resource presenter: I do the sourcing and cooking, the person pays cost of acquisition only, no profit).
Its LLC law, writ smol
And as to why alot of the menu is "tbd", its cuz what is capable to be made will depend first on what is wanting to be made. Looking at ingredients, having tacos available leads to over 2 dozen options for protein, starch, sauces/oils, etc.
This is why the idea for HC is to focus on tacos only
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Just to subtly revisit this:
Where - convention or otherwise - are you going to be just plain given fresh-made, restaurant-quality tacos with all kinds of fixins? Or where in the same context are you able to get an over 1/4lb (precook, so ~1/4 post) seasoned classic cheeseburger with lettuce, seasoned tomato, cheese, grilled onions, and homemade in&out spread, for $2, or a double/double for $3, or,....
Bonus that they're a furry you can shitpost irl at while you wait.
There will never be profit, never what the idea is about; with 100% efficiency (lol) I'll break even (and that's without factoring the room price as a business expense, which could be done but that opens up liabilities that can't be managed). Don't worry, I'll belosing expending money on this
Where - convention or otherwise - are you going to be just plain given fresh-made, restaurant-quality tacos with all kinds of fixins? Or where in the same context are you able to get an over 1/4lb (precook, so ~1/4 post) seasoned classic cheeseburger with lettuce, seasoned tomato, cheese, grilled onions, and homemade in&out spread, for $2, or a double/double for $3, or,....
Bonus that they're a furry you can shitpost irl at while you wait.
There will never be profit, never what the idea is about; with 100% efficiency (lol) I'll break even (and that's without factoring the room price as a business expense, which could be done but that opens up liabilities that can't be managed). Don't worry, I'll be
The signage virtually writes its self;
"You're my fren now, have free soft tacos"
"Room X betw 10a and 9p"
"kokiri.mp4"
pics prolly
"You're my fren now, have free soft tacos"
"Room X betw 10a and 9p"
"kokiri.mp4"
pics prolly
>>377657
Thats the bigger-con idea, HC would be more for (ahem) bronco-appreciating horse appreciators
Thats the bigger-con idea, HC would be more for (ahem) bronco-appreciating horse appreciators
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New idea:
Kinda stupid, ngl, but hear me out.
Would you go to a panel/workshop involving pony pumpkin carving?
Kinda stupid, ngl, but hear me out.
Would you go to a panel/workshop involving pony pumpkin carving?
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Without having looked for more, theres at least one pony artist that has stencils for ease
Pumpkin Carving aside,
(Happy Halloween btw)
>>>/ub/8073 →
This right here is an example of what I am talking about/planning, except I'll be serving horsefuckers from a hotel room rather than family from home. Food will be properly and professionally (vacuum bags, dry/wet ice refrigeration) stored and all the necessary health and safety standards upheld.
$50-60 in cost to me (waiving labor) means 40 servings (precook weight) of 1/4 lbs, which breaks down to $1.50 each. 1/4lbs is just the meat, there will also be slaw and may fried onions or coarsely ground chicharron.
Whatever the final plating, its gonna be amazing, amazingly cheap, presented by a shitposting/talking furry cowe, who you can (attempt to) take down a peg pr two while they're makong ur sandwich.
(Happy Halloween btw)
>>>/ub/8073 →
This right here is an example of what I am talking about/planning, except I'll be serving horsefuckers from a hotel room rather than family from home. Food will be properly and professionally (vacuum bags, dry/wet ice refrigeration) stored and all the necessary health and safety standards upheld.
$50-60 in cost to me (waiving labor) means 40 servings (precook weight) of 1/4 lbs, which breaks down to $1.50 each. 1/4lbs is just the meat, there will also be slaw and may fried onions or coarsely ground chicharron.
Whatever the final plating, its gonna be amazing, amazingly cheap, presented by a shitposting/talking furry cowe, who you can (attempt to) take down a peg pr two while they're makong ur sandwich.
I'm talking pulled pork sandwiches.
I'm talking the authentic street tacos.
I'm talking chopped italian grilled cheese sandwiches.
The whole 'kitchen 'doesnt have to be anything huge, it JUST has to be a memorable/noteworthy experience that participants will assocoate with /mlpol/.
No soapboxing, no real political discussion (jokes of course) unless it starts naturally, just one furry horsefucker bringing their absolite A game in the kitchen.
And they'll have all 3 days (more, depending on how registration goes this year ^_~) to filter through at their leisure during posted/advertized operating hours.
And who knows! Maybe I'll forget to cross a T, and wind up arrested/walked out in fursuit. Can you say viral (in the /mlp/ community)?
I'm talking the authentic street tacos.
I'm talking chopped italian grilled cheese sandwiches.
The whole 'kitchen 'doesnt have to be anything huge, it JUST has to be a memorable/noteworthy experience that participants will assocoate with /mlpol/.
No soapboxing, no real political discussion (jokes of course) unless it starts naturally, just one furry horsefucker bringing their absolite A game in the kitchen.
And they'll have all 3 days (more, depending on how registration goes this year ^_~) to filter through at their leisure during posted/advertized operating hours.
And who knows! Maybe I'll forget to cross a T, and wind up arrested/walked out in fursuit. Can you say viral (in the /mlp/ community)?
(And dont forget, the tacos are free)
Contemplating having a tip jar to be donated to the con/charity on behalf of /mlpol/ at the end
Contemplating having a tip jar to be donated to the con/charity on behalf of /mlpol/ at the end
Omg thats it!
Weld a box with a slit in the top, for donations. Donation tiers get access to better/more portions/types of entrees. Everything donated at the end with a big 'ol /mlpol/ sticker plastered on the envelope, with glitter and shit.
There is no sale or purchase, its entirely a thank you for donation
Weld a box with a slit in the top, for donations. Donation tiers get access to better/more portions/types of entrees. Everything donated at the end with a big 'ol /mlpol/ sticker plastered on the envelope, with glitter and shit.
There is no sale or purchase, its entirely a thank you for donation
>>377948
Staff eats free?
I know some of y'all get bored enough, and if anyone has ideas/suggestions, I would like to hear them
>inb4 KYS, etc
Staff eats free?
I know some of y'all get bored enough, and if anyone has ideas/suggestions, I would like to hear them
>inb4 KYS, etc
>>377952
Are you citing anything specific, cuz A. I'm sure I can (I just havent figured out the leg/paperwork yet, but neither have you so who are you to say?), and B. You make a fair point. No pearls before swine
Are you citing anything specific, cuz A. I'm sure I can (I just havent figured out the leg/paperwork yet, but neither have you so who are you to say?), and B. You make a fair point. No pearls before swine
>>377952
Not trying to be too adversarial but substance, please. The world is rife with tiered donations and rewards. The implication that I can't do the same with plates of food will need more than your disbelief as a citation
Not trying to be too adversarial but substance, please. The world is rife with tiered donations and rewards. The implication that I can't do the same with plates of food will need more than your disbelief as a citation
I think too much emphasis is being put on terms. The "tiered donation" idea is simple:
1. Free tacos (2 free cuz we're frens now) for signing an alias in the book, heres your stamp card.
2. Insert $ into the box, write amount next to alias in book (optional) and on stampcard (necessary).
3. $1, $2, $3 items, tracked by stamp on stampcard, different colors for specific tier.
The principle behind the tiers fpr fppd is with respect to the cost that I can now absorb and don't need to be paid back for BUT "you're" not getting my food, time, and effort without giving a little - ultimately, but by proxy - to the Mairfare/host charity. Give as much as you want, or eat well for a little.
It might need a little tweaking, but in that the convention is actively fundraising and encourage participation throughout - expressly to raise money for an established, publicized charity - means I simply have to document/maintain a thorough, good-faith effort to profit zero and participate likewise in the fund raising of the convention. And upon making that ultimate donation, I can dedicate/credit the donation to /mlpol/.
The only liability then pertains to food safety and available on-demand nutrition data.
I'll clear it all with a legal professional in advance, but it is seeming - the more I research - that I actually can mix donations and rewards.
1. Free tacos (2 free cuz we're frens now) for signing an alias in the book, heres your stamp card.
2. Insert $ into the box, write amount next to alias in book (optional) and on stampcard (necessary).
3. $1, $2, $3 items, tracked by stamp on stampcard, different colors for specific tier.
The principle behind the tiers fpr fppd is with respect to the cost that I can now absorb and don't need to be paid back for BUT "you're" not getting my food, time, and effort without giving a little - ultimately, but by proxy - to the Mairfare/host charity. Give as much as you want, or eat well for a little.
It might need a little tweaking, but in that the convention is actively fundraising and encourage participation throughout - expressly to raise money for an established, publicized charity - means I simply have to document/maintain a thorough, good-faith effort to profit zero and participate likewise in the fund raising of the convention. And upon making that ultimate donation, I can dedicate/credit the donation to /mlpol/.
The only liability then pertains to food safety and available on-demand nutrition data.
I'll clear it all with a legal professional in advance, but it is seeming - the more I research - that I actually can mix donations and rewards.
Give/eat
>>377954
>>377964
>To be a gift for such purposes in the present context there must be, among other requirements, a payment of money or transfer of property without adequate consideration. As a general rule, where a transaction involving a payment is in the form of a purchase of an item of value, the presumption arises that no gift has been made for charitable contribution purposes, the presumption being that the payment in such case is the purchase price. Thus, where consideration in the form of admissions or other privileges or benefits is received in connection with payments by patrons of fund-raising affairs of the type in question, the presumption is that the payments are not gifts.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/170
>>377964
>To be a gift for such purposes in the present context there must be, among other requirements, a payment of money or transfer of property without adequate consideration. As a general rule, where a transaction involving a payment is in the form of a purchase of an item of value, the presumption arises that no gift has been made for charitable contribution purposes, the presumption being that the payment in such case is the purchase price. Thus, where consideration in the form of admissions or other privileges or benefits is received in connection with payments by patrons of fund-raising affairs of the type in question, the presumption is that the payments are not gifts.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/170
>>377977
While you may not be a 501(c)3 charity, see earlier in the thread where you yourself were worrying about legal ramifications of selling food vs giving it away.
While you may not be a 501(c)3 charity, see earlier in the thread where you yourself were worrying about legal ramifications of selling food vs giving it away.
>>377977
I appreciate your attempts to help, but when it comes to legal shit, I can't be certain that the purpose refferred to in "for this purpose" is accurate; I'm not convinced it is for several reasons, most expressly because there is no implied, expressed, intended, or available tax claims associated, which is where alot of such liability stems from.
Legal consultation is priced in. I'm looking at making the idea as good as it can be.
I appreciate your attempts to help, but when it comes to legal shit, I can't be certain that the purpose refferred to in "for this purpose" is accurate; I'm not convinced it is for several reasons, most expressly because there is no implied, expressed, intended, or available tax claims associated, which is where alot of such liability stems from.
Legal consultation is priced in. I'm looking at making the idea as good as it can be.
Let me rephrase. Let me worry about why it will be legal.
As my potential audience, I am interested in how I can make the idea better.
As my potential audience, I am interested in how I can make the idea better.
>>377979
>I'm looking at making my mlpol meetup as good as it can be
avoiding any chance of legal reprisal would help with that, you can't exactly serve tacos when some asshurt tranny calls you in for selling food without all of your Ts dotted and Is crossed. Good luck with your idea anon, I tried to help.
>I'm looking at making my mlpol meetup as good as it can be
avoiding any chance of legal reprisal would help with that, you can't exactly serve tacos when some asshurt tranny calls you in for selling food without all of your Ts dotted and Is crossed. Good luck with your idea anon, I tried to help.
>>377978
I missed this post cuz typing
You seem to have difficulty with the idea that this is an idea in progress/evolution.
I dont expect the idea to be perfect now. I do think the idea could be perfect in due course.
And no, Im not interested in listening to somepony who just wants to be a dick about shit is wrong, unconstructively, citing 50 page docus that MAY be related. Like I said, Ill pay someone for authorotative information.
>>377981
>I tried to help
Did you though? It looks more like you were trying to score some sort of points. Faff off, regardless
I missed this post cuz typing
You seem to have difficulty with the idea that this is an idea in progress/evolution.
I dont expect the idea to be perfect now. I do think the idea could be perfect in due course.
And no, Im not interested in listening to somepony who just wants to be a dick about shit is wrong, unconstructively, citing 50 page docus that MAY be related. Like I said, Ill pay someone for authorotative information.
>>377981
>I tried to help
Did you though? It looks more like you were trying to score some sort of points. Faff off, regardless
>>377982
>I started a public post on a public website
>I don't want anyone's input
brainstorm in a notepad document faggot
>I started a public post on a public website
>I don't want anyone's input
brainstorm in a notepad document faggot
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