/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>373770
LET'S GO!

we fucked up Macron very hard, he wants a rematch with the left.

Jordy must make alliances now, fucker must do it.
Zemmour called it. Fucking called it.

>is France a mess
yes.

>>373772
>he wants a rematch with the left
How likely is he to succeed at this stunt?
Also, wtf can the president just call for a rematch when he loses an election?

>>373772
Normie coal

You have no idea how bad things are. We have many right wing parties.
LR (republicans like Ciotti) RN (somewhat nationalist with Bardella) R! (conservative with Marion and Zemmour) and a few others. (UPR, etc)

>R! is a very recent party made 3 years ago with all the most based and skilled candidates on the right to actually have an impact
>Lastly Marion Maréchal Le Pen joined the party making the RN and Marine Le Pen mad at her niece.

>RN wins, with Jordy #1
>the left screeches
>macron cancels the assembly forcing us to vote again
>the left unites to make a solid party and will back macron against the evil nazis etc.

>we need a right wing union to bury the left and macron for good and seal a victory together, for the right wing.

>the RN (natio) allies with LR (rep)
>R! does everything possible to get in the alliance.
>Marine Le Pen (RN) don't want that because Zemmour (R!) was too mean to her
>Zemmour decides not to run against them
>Marine still refuses an alliance with Reconquête which is a party with the smartest and most efficient right wing members and solid convictions here.
>Marion Maréchal LePen, niece of Marine is in the party
>She now ask conservatives not to vote for anyone in the party but to vote RN instead

Have anyone ever seen, I mean, in any country or any point of history saw a political candidate asking to vote for the rival ? Because, Marion Maréchal literally did that.

Also I need to mention, the RN don't want a right wing victory, they will fuck up alone, they have no «brains» whatsoever, not a thinking guy in their party, and if anything they always sabotaged their own party.

This is a nightmare.

>>373837
Is what you're telling me that the right had a historic win in France, but Le Penis is about to fuck it all up?

>>373840
Jean-Marie LePen was on the second round in 2002, that was the first time, he lost to Chirac.
The FN was in the EU pariament and in the Assembly for decades with little to no results.
Marine LePen lost to Macron in 2017.
She lost again to Macron in 2022.
Every single time they are losing, they are not interested to rule, that's the analysis many members who seceded from the FN/RN understood, Dupont-Aignan, Phillipot, Asselineau, Mégret knows the LePen dynasty have no desire to take the power.
The RN are just guys who want to go on like this forever.

<They especially do not understand the difference between rivals, and enemies. Zemmour(cons) and Bellamy(rep) are the RN's rivals. The left and center-left with Macron are the enemies, the RN however see all of them as their enemies, they managed an alliance with the republicans, and causing chaos and division there. they also caused the drama and division in Reconquête instead of deciding like

>We want to win a guaranteed landslide, let's unite all the right and work on it later together.
it's literally what the left did, and will support Macron because they hate the right, they hate France, they hate us. We are in an undeclared civil war, french are starting to arm themselves very seriously and it's a good thing.

In TL;DR .
<Macron is a vile son of a bitch and a master troll. Zemmour called it, and we see it happening as the worst possible scenario.
<Bardella as a PM (I hope, I really hope I'm wrong) will be a catastrophe and will be the demonstration they cannot govern, because he will be PM under Macron.

>>373847
Is Le Pen gonna lose again then, when the new elections are held?

>>373852
yes, the situation is this bad. the main antisemists ones are the left.
the left supports muslims and muslims unironically wave swastikas.
the RN and Reconquete actually see the nazis as our eternal enemies, as for Pierre Bousquet, they ignore the history.

>>373852
LePen is like the Team Rocket. you know, cool entrance, and once again they fuck up.
FRONCE OUAIS !

Algerian migrated CHADS will rule over france by 2050 and whites will become a minority (as they should)

>>373864
Sorry Akhmed. But by 2050 most Yahoos will already be exterminated for the Pony Master Race.

>>373865
There is no such a thing as a pony "master" race, god created ponies so they can be sexy rape materials for humans theyre not masters theyre property

What a subhuman way of thinking.

>>373866
And this is why Brenton Tarrant did nothing wrong. As soon this shit government collapse the frenchmen will take Paris back.

>>373871
I can goon to this...

This dissolution is a trap, causes chaos and division, turns rivals into adversaries.
The ongoing drama will cause Macron to win.

>>373883
Thats great to hear

>>373884
The other solution will be a civil war, as Silver mentioned, the state falls, muslims will get shot.
Please understand: the right-wing here is a hope to the french, this hope is the safety against civil war. This hope being gone, chaos happens.

How to clear a street full of hundreds of far left militants. (Lyon)
Riot police : *stands and throws teargas making antifa cry*
The boys :
https://x.com/AlertesInfos/status/1801730087685160994

Let's also understand and underline the fact the EU axis Macron-VonDerLeyen recently at the G7 works like a damned to throw us into WW3.
All of this is just diversion.

Le Pen is not actually “far right” tho

>>373904
She's far right from the European sense, because their "center right" parties are the equivalent to American Democrats (neoliberal globohomo).

>>373905
Nonsense. CNN tells me that anyone one millimeter to the right of Pol Pot is a "fAr RiGhT nEo NaTzEe ExCkStReAmE." Would Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper lie to me? They wouldn't be allowed to say it on TV if it weren't true, guise.

>>373913
The difference between left and right is vague, and the center ultimately depends on where the status quo is. In Europe, the status quo is neoliberalism on the "center right", and socialism on the left, so any amount of nationalism is far right to them.
Tbh, this kind of demonstrates one of the reasons how the left vs right meme is kind of a flawed concept that people keep using out of convenience more than accuracy. The definitions of "left" and "right" are really unclear and vary wildly depending on circumstances.

>>373914
>The difference between left and right is vague
No, not really. The Right stands for Tradition and Culture, Blood and Soil, the Nation and the People. I capitalize these words in the German manner to illustrate a certain continuity of thought. The Left stands in opposition to all of these things. The Right believes that the civilization our forefathers created is worth protecting. The Left wants to burn it all down. They usually deny it, though since the Kenyan was placed in office atop an ocean of phony ballots orchestrated by ACORN and a million "urban black churches," they have felt safe saying what they really think more and more. Their intent becomes obvious when you watch what they do and consider the predictable outcomes of their chosen policies. "Intent can be inferred from predictable outcome," says Noam Chomsky, and he'd know.

>>373919
>The Right stands for Tradition and Culture, Blood and Soil, the Nation and the People.
>I capitalize these words in the German manner to illustrate a certain continuity of thought.
That's just the thing, the Third Reich is what people think of when you say "far right", but in actuality it was really center authoritarian. It wasn't particularly conservative or even capitalist. On the economic front, it's strictly left if the United States: It had corporatism entangling industry with the state, public healthcare, heavy regulation, various public social programs and educational programs, etc. On the cultural side, it was as progressive as it was conservative: it didn't just want to preserve German traditions, but make new ones. Also, a lot of third Reich ideology was inspired by the American eugenics movement, which in and of itself was part of the American Progressive movement in the 1920s alongside other science-led positivist progressive ideologies of the time.
And yet people call them "far right" because they were mean to Jews, when economically and culturally they were center by any definitive metric.

>>373919
>The Right believes that the civilization our forefathers created is worth protecting. The Left wants to burn it all down.
See, this is another way the definition of Conservative/Progressive and Right/Left change. Left vs Right have their roots in the French Revolution, where the left wanted to tear down old hierarchies while the right wanted to preserve them. Thing is, since then, the status quo of western civilization has changed, because the dominant ideology to emerge after the French revolution was Classical Liberalism, and more recently it's been neo liberalism. Conservatism as a concept emerged in response to liberalism, but when conservatives want to conserve something for the past two centuries the thing that they've been conserving is liberalism.

>>373920
One of the things the lolbertarians grasp, that is not widely understood, is that the right-left axis is cultural, and it is possible for authoritarianism and totalitarianism to coexist with any point on that continuum. I agree that in 1930 in German, a "rightist" wasn't an NSDAP member, a "rightist" was a monarchist. I don't think the NSDAP would have existed without Weimar Republic (((bankster))) pederasts buying and selling little boys on leashes in the streets of Munich and Berlin, or without (((Spartacist))) and (((Rotfront))) terrorists throwing bombs. The terms of the Versailles treaty made German resentment and a rematch a generation later an inevitability, but without highly visible (((malign foreign influence))) and (((corruption))) it would have taken different forms, I think, and Germany would instead have had some kind of radical authoritarian monarchist movement.

All of that aside, I do agree that the NSDAP wanted to create new traditions, but they were not radically, fundamentally at odds with German culture as it existed, or with human nature.

The Left is always a death-cult of spiteful manchildren. I do not exaggerate for rhetorical effect when I call them insane nihilists. Their fundamental assumptions do not line up with the most basic aspects of human behavior and motivation. "Class consciousness" is as imaginary as Bigfoot. It would require a people who do not grasp that their race is their extended family, who do not exhibit the kin preference that allowed our ancestors to cooperate and survive in a hostile world. I think that in many cases, perhaps most, it stems from sexual abuse. They're angry at Daddy for touching their pee-pee place when they were five, then promising them a pony if they'd keep quiet about it, and then welshing on the deal. This has made them genuinely unable to understand how human beings relate to one another, and left them emotionally stunted toddlers in adult bodies. They want their goddamn pony, and they want it now. And if they can't have the pony, burning down the world is an acceptable consolation prize. They love those beautiful, beautiful flames more than life itself. They talk about "equality" and "justice" and "human rights" but what motivates them is spite and a desire to get even with a vast intangible conspiracy that oppresses them by requiring them to work for a living and not fuck little boys in public. All those dumb townies, who stood by and didn't save them from the nightly cornholing by dear old Dad, they're gonna share in the suffering and the self-hatred. No corner of the world will be spared.

tl;dr the difference between "left" and "right" isn't arbitrary. It's the difference between "cackling methhead who wants to burn your house down because the voices in his head told him you probably deserve it for not funding his meth bender" and "person who doesn't want to see his house in flames." These people are monsters, and it is a mistake to think that it's 1927 and you're in a Norman Rockwell painting of a New England town meeting where people speak their opinions without fear of retribution and attempt to cooperate in good faith to find the truth and work together. They want you dead or in a gulag, and your kids raped by trannies. They think it's hilarious. They can't shut up about it. When people tell you who they are and what they want, you should listen.

Lol, it backfired
https://www.france24.com/en/france/20240630-le-pen-s-far-right-party-wins-first-round-of-french-elections-as-macron-s-gamble-backfires