ITT, we plan a pony con
Why?
Because conventions are fun, we don't have enough, and the ones we have not always in the best location or have pozzed requirements like a mask or vaccine
But We Have Marefair
So I did the math, and figured out that Marefair is only about 0.82% of the year. That's not nearly enough. I need my fix
So what then?
We make our own con. Or try to.
Why Marefair Worked
In its first year, Marefair had 500 attendees, zero instances of the police or fire department being called, and raised $50,000 for its charity, which was the second highest ever for a Pony con at the time, surpassed only by the $92,000 of the last BronyCon Admittedly it was blown away by Ciderfest one month later
Marefair did several things incredibly well, I think. First off, I believe that the location of Orlando, Florida, was absolute genius. Orlando, Florida, is one of the cheapest locations in the entire United States to fly to, both for domestic air travel and international travel. Also, there are no pony conventions in the area. The nearest Pony conventions are SeaquestriaFest (which is not close to major airports, highways, or the rail network), and Harmony Con, each about a thousand miles away. Marefair takes advantage of an otherwise under-served East coast and Southern brony fandom
Second, Marefair had no requirements for vaccinations, masks, or anything of that nature. This was not the case for around half of the American pony conventions. It also didn't make a leftist political organization the recipient of its "charity," but picked an actual charity. It's also the only con where I heard racial slurs in multiple panels, implying a greater than average freedom of speech.
Marefair was planned on a small budget, and is notable for being the only American Pony Con to not have any show guests, instead relying on community guests.
It also helped that the management wasn't retarded and didn't fight with each other, which is much more than can be said of several conventions.
First matter:
A survey of American PonyCons
There are 9 My Little Pony Conventions in North America. Soon to be 8, as BABsCon is ending next year. These are:
Vanhoover Pony Expo
Vancouver, British Columbia (technically it's Richmond). Middle of January. ~200 attendees, not especially woke. Mask in vending hall but otherwise no COVID restrictions
HarmonyCon
Dallas, Texas. Beginning of February. Con organizers are woke, but its attendees are not. Growing, up to 1080 attendees in 2024. Requires mask in vending hall, required vaccine or negative test in 2023
BABsCon
San Fransisco, California. Always on Easter, placing it in March or April. Bigger, but I don't have numbers. 2025 will be its last year. Definitely woke, historically requiring full Vax (not in 2024) and outright banning things like MAGA hats.
SeaquestriaFest
Ocean City, Maryland. May. Small. May be woke, being one of the only cons to require a vaccine/negative test in 2024 (after not requiring it in 2023).
WhinnyCity Pony Con
Chicago, Illinois (actually Schaumberg). June. Medium sized, ~500. Went all in on LGBT in 2023 but was the first con to officially end COVID requirements that year, save for requiring a mask in the vendor hall.
TrotCon
Dayton, Ohio. July. Supposedly larger. Strict on COVID requirements, requiring masks in 2024. The only American con to not have the venue in a hotel. Known for having financial problems.
Everfree Northwest
Seattle, Washington (actually Belleveu). August. The largest extant pony con at around ~1300. Not especially woke.
Marefair
Orlando, Florida. End of September. 500 attendees in 2023. Based.
Ponyville Ciderfest
Milwaukee, Wisconsin. End of October or November. Grown back to 1000 attendees in 2023. Not especially woke. Same organizers as Whinny City.
All of the above cons are three-day Friday-Sunday events, though I believe Seaquestriafest has been 2 days in the past.
So where is ripe for a new pony con?
I will make a map later, but pony conventions in the US are concentrated in a areas, with the West Coast having three (BABsCon, EFNW, and Vanhoover) and the Midwest having three (Ciderfest, WhinnyCity, and Trotcon) while the American South has only 2 now (HarmonyCon and Marefair) and the American Northeast and Canada east of the Rockies have exactly zero. There is only a single ponycon (unless you count Marefair) on the East Coast (Seaquestriafest).
So, this leads to suggested locations:
1. Nashville, Tennessee. This location is the current most favored one, as it is in the Upper South, a region with no Pony conventions, and is in almost the geographic center of the portion of the United States that actually has water/is most heavily populated. It's reasonable, if not necessarily convenient, driving distance from the East Coast, Midwest, and American South. It also one of the cheapest cities to fly to in the US.
2.Memphis, Tennessee. Memphis has many of the same advantages of Nashville, Tennessee, though it's a less pleasant city with a higher crime rate
3. San Antonio, Texas. Not ideal as it's too close to HarmonyCon, but the city is cheap to fly to, and close to many bronies. Also it's a nice, walkable city with many restaurants
4. Las Vegas, Nevada. The cheapest city in the US to fly to, even beating Orlando. I would have counted this out as there are enough cons on the West Coast, but with BABsCon closing, I think this location is more viable.
When?
Community Guests, as well as a large portion of Convention attendees, attend multiple conventions. It's therefore desirable to place any new convention in a time slot where it will not compete. In 2023, the only months with no American conventions were April, and December. April has better weather, and after BABsCon ends next year, both April and March will be clear. Thus I suggest April is the best month.
>>372747Hooray! Time to activate the Twilighting to enrich communities, add ponies and make dreams into reality.
>>372747Here is a map of Pony Cons to aid in understanding the locations.
I'll go if you put it in Nashville but I'm not convinced "random anon on mlpol" is going to make a con happen
Memphis also has the big bass pro pyramid which is an awesome hotel
>>372753also, Vegas is cheap to fly to but expensive to host in, and if you're going to do San Antonio, just move it to Austin and do it in the Kalahari in Round Rock, they've got a water park attached which would be a really unique venue for pony cons (Colossalcon for anime also hosts there and is neat, apparently others too)
>>372753>I'm not convinced "random anon on mlpol" is going to make a con happenThat's a part of the purpose of the thread. To gather ideas, and especially to see who may in some way help
>>372747Another thing to consider is whether the standards of what makes a "convention" can be reduced.
In the United States
and Canada I guess, the smallest Pony convention is 200 attendees, and all of them are 3 days. In Europe, however, cons are often much smaller and much shorter. For example, the largest pony convention in Europe is Galacon in Germany, which is only 2 days (and I think maybe only 500 people, though I could be wrong). Other conventions like UK PonyCon, Griffish Isles, and PonyCon Holland are likewise only 2 days. Further, there are a number of conventions that have fewer than 200 attendees, and straddle the line between being meet ups and conventions. Large meet ups are not a thing in the United States.
Why the hell not? It's also worth noting that in Europe, some "conventions" are basically camping in the woods, or are multi-day music concerts
>>372756Smaller cons/meetups work in Europe because if you have to travel across the country to get to a con that's like 3 hours on the train
soapguy here
all my vendor effort goes into marefair and don't really have time off for anything else.
I can probably help other ways, but am extremely busy making stuff in general.
ex: this weekend I need to weld together a couple of steel tables for my workshop. Also have a gun show to go to and get some fun stuff this weekend as well.
Should be able to help more if it was in Texas though. Also know quite a few horsefags in Texas that might be able to help too.
>>372781yeah still around... ha
still really busy. haven't posted much because nothing interesting in the soap front, and busy with other normal-ish stuff.
>>372831how serious are you about this?
>>372832I'm a bit hesitant to have my real name exposed on an incorporation related to this, but I am absolutely willing to spend money (Even in the tens of thousands) and time organizing something.
Either way, even a get together cannot happen without multiple people.
Does /mlpol/ even have enough anons for a proper con? I mean a small meet up could work, but I don't think this site has the people for a con.
>>372833Let's say hypothetically that some pony crazy snowpity huffing shmuck would be willing to be the incorperation face...
How would it be made and whatever other details needed to do this?
>>372833I'm also still here. I'd put my name on it but it'd have to be pony with a wink and a nod to mlpol, not MLPOL THE CONVENTION HEIL HITLER LLC
>>372747So looking deeper into Mare Fair, and the nonprofit organization above holding the event, Snowpity Inc. it becomes clear they got their shit together.
I'm assuming a similar business structure would be more ideal.
First question and it's important is whether the business is a charitable FOR-PROFIT or nonprofit.
From what little I know going from for profit to nonprofit is easier, but considering the subject matter at hand nonprofit for image board fags is very successful.
What would a /mlpol/ convention look like? Obviously mares everywhere and because I have no doubts about the autism and as a marketing standpoint an obviously adult venue. IE cartoon mare pussy ect. The interests are wide and varied.
So potentially the event has a little bit of everything. But that might add alot to expenses.
Due to the nature of how spicy this could potentially get, it might be worthwhile to shove the donations/entry fee/whatever collected money to other non-Spicy non-profit organizations. Unless someone/group in need is willing to be even tangentially associated.
Other thing to consider, would it be a convention convention or some bizarre hybrid?
Such as holding it at alternate venues (hotels, owning property for this purpose, ect.)
I'm fairly sure an online presence and virtual tour would be helpful. Maybe having a fundraiser sort of thing to get this off the ground even more.
There's loads of ways things could balloon into just extra stuff not wanted or needed, but also lots of ways to use such resources.
I think with some strange angles to consider things, it's possible to have an /mlpol/
convention be operable for everyday of the year and manage to be self-sustaining.
Because essentially it's a public forum to freely discuss anything and debate and hangout and vendor opportunity.
But, one thing to consider is. What if it wasn't a convention. What if it was more akin to a condominium or hotel, the managing group is only responsible for technically paying taxes and insurance and utilities not strictly responsible for the tenants.
>>372939pinkie what the fuck are you talking about
First things first, what is the name of the company holding this event going to be?
>>372961It probably shouldn’t be “Horsefucker Inc.,” but that’s all that comes to mind right now
>>372834This desu, getting some wings with you fags would be fun but yain't gonna get enough people for a con
>>372945What should an event look like, and corporate structure and alternate suggestions.
>>372963I mean people did enjoy hoerss and it's likely to attract the purely /mlp/ and /pol/ types and anyone that wants to be in any of these events that could be in it.
Speaking of which the scope of the operation.
If at most forty people show up (including convention management staff) would it be worth renting at a convention center? I'm guessing more people than that would show, and not solely from or for /mlpol/.
So fishing so not to undershoot and not overshoot.
While also spitballing locations and other considerations and what would be the best choice for this sort of shindig.
Virtual stuff is easily accessible always.
>>372780Also have to consider time and money and potentially time off per convention and how easily feasible it is for people to just show up.
Also specific attractions that other conventions don't or won't have.
>>372962I'm pretty sure there's no limiting factor to the name from a legal stand point as long as it's not used by any other.
So hopefully not used by a studding company.
And then also getting to know the legal bullshit for the state, and city and whatever else for the specific location.
Should it be nonprofit?
Heavily scrutinized to ensure it is infact doing charitable stuff.
Should it be for profit?
Should this be the longest short bus, food pony party truck sort of thing, like a circus? Probably not, but it has to be considered.
Would it be more like a tech-fair show casing the advances of hoersfuckering virtual tech, like robotic mares.
Or is it kind of like a book club?
So the business would have to be nonprofit for volunteerism and generally unpaid labor. Otherwise it'll be legally fucked.
>>372747Damn, kinda sad this thread died, but nothing ever happens so it's time be expected
>>373652U didnt have to bring it back y'know? Its a waste of page 1
>>373652It's not dead per se just waiting for people to bring up something.
I think our audience for this is mainly going to be regular dudes in the fandom who want a break from all this constant Frankfurt school propaganda. A place they know that they can use as a speak-easy away from political censors and where people can take a joke.
The vibe of Mare Fair is worth propagating. Meeting for the sake of a shared love of Pony. That's a lot more hunger for that than one might think. It's also got a ton of reach beyond the blinds of the specific MLPOL crossover.
I also think it would be valuable to have cultural spaces that are in opposition to the cult. Whether this is through assertion of political neutrality instead of wokist talking points or through explicit opposition to the politically exhausting mainstream is something I'm happy to hash out.
I do have a feeling that MLP will serve as a significant cultural force yet.
The fandom is a productive and organized entity on it's own.
>>373728You know what that's a very good point.
Bump because more information coming soon
>>373654Like the rest of the board