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Ukraine invasion - thread #7
Anonymous
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Last bread >>344163 → hit the bump limit.
Post Ukrainian butthurt here.
656 replies and 491 files omitted.
Anonymous
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>Russian Kamikazi Lancet drones easily destroying all of the NATO equipment
>blowing armor up non-stop
https://vidmax.com/video/220654-watch-how-russia-is-detroying-billions-of-us-dollars-in-equipment-with-cheap-drones
Mirror:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZzFld7jKdmVD/
Anonymous
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US foreign policy is such an embarrassment. NATO cannot stand it when Vladmir Putin defies its will and will impotently posture. My prediction is that Ukraine won't become a member of NATO during the war, because the major Western powers want to avoid direct conflict with Russia. Major news networks commenting on Putin staging nuclear weapons in Belarus is more proof that they want to rally public opinion to oppose and discredit Putin at every step

The West relying on propaganda to "defeat" Russia in their impotent "information war" is a colossal embarrassment. The outcome of this war is not going to be determined by public opinion. We might as well be directly intervening if it's a national concern - but no. It's just grandstanding.
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>>364385
>impotent "information war"
Propaganda is not impotent. It's much stronger than you think, and you shouldn't underestimate it. Propaganda is the biggest driver of the status quo we see all around us.
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>>364385
>We might as well be directly intervening if it's a national concern
Nobody wants a hot war with Russia. That's why proxy wars exist. That's why the cold war existed. These benign proxy conflicts have actual consequences down the line, which is why they insist on doing them.
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>>364387
>Nobody wants a hot war with Russia.
I think the public is primed to support war but the leadership does not actually want to go to war hence we're materially and financially supporting Ukraine. I can understand that the proxy war does have consequences.
>>364386
I just am not impressed with the approach the West is taking. The rhetoric cultivates more armchair advocacy for certain government actions against a fabricated enemy. Our own blood is not shed to settle the dispute but we can deceive ourselves we're doing something by vesting more power into our corrupt leaders. It's impersonal, slimy, and ignorant IMO.
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>>364419
America really needs another fun little war to keep their failing internals functioning. I suspect Russia and China also know that America is looking for any reason to go to war before the US army goes full impotent from tranny infection and similar cancers. They need to stave off that senario for as long as possible, because America with a weak military means America is no longer the bossy bitch it has been for decades.
That hot war will happen, mark my words. America cannot outlast Russia and China in this conflict, so they will become more desperate and dangerous.
Anonymous
No.364424
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>>364387
>>364419
>>364422
America definitely wants a war, it just doesn't want to start one. Once an empire decays to the point that ordinary people start noticing, war becomes the only effective tool for preserving any semblance of internal unity. It's also useful for projecting power to rival powers that smell blood in the water, in this case Russia and China.

America has an established tradition of starting wars in passive-aggressive ways, because it's a war-mongering nation that doesn't want to be seen as one. Also, popular sentiment tends to run against wars when America is the obvious aggressor. So, their usual strategy is to provoke other nations into attacking first. The Spanish-American war began when America blew up one of its own ships and blamed the Spanish. America entered WWI by using commercial passenger ships to transport arms to the allies, and entered WWII by enacting crippling sanctions against Japan until eventually they bombed Pearl Harbor. In both cases the attacks were clearly done in retaliation to America's shady actions, but they were not presented that way to the public.

Currently, America is trying to provoke Putin into using nuclear weapons, or doing something similarly aggressive, that they can use as an excuse to get fully involved. Putin seems to have basically figured this out, and so far isn't taking the bait. The same thing is going on with China and Taiwan. My suspicion is that China and Russia also want war for their own reasons. However, neither side wants to be the one to fire the first shot, so right now the situation is basically a couple of middle school kids shoving each other and calling each other "faggot" and "pussy" over and over, each one hoping that the other will get mad enough to throw a punch.
Anonymous
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>>364424
>Once an empire decays to the point that ordinary people start noticing, war becomes the only effective tool for preserving any semblance of internal unity.
That is not going to work in this case. For first time America is facing an adversary that can bomb the US mainland at will. Add to that that Russia may be tempted to land in Alaska to reclaim historical territories.
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>>364425
Oh I agree completely, I think it's going to backfire completely. America has vastly overestimated its own strength here. I was just saying that historically this is the reason that large, failing empires tend to want to start wars.

I also think they're overplaying their hand as far as getting the general public on their side. The PUTIN BAD narrative doesn't seem to be playing as well across the board as they probably thought it would.
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>>364426
>I also think they're overplaying their hand as far as getting the general public on their side. The PUTIN BAD narrative doesn't seem to be playing as well across the board as they probably thought it would.
Did cross your mind that the Kremlin is in cahoots with the White House? Both appear to be antagonists, however both are run by the same banksters who are the actual masterminds calling the shots.
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>>364428
I suppose it's possible, but the problem is that what you're talking about is pure black-box speculation. If the world actually is under the total control of bankster-masterminds, said masterminds aren't going to publicize their plans, so all we could really do would be to make guesses about what we thought they were planning. However, if that's the case, then this whole discussion is pointless anyway, because all we'd really be arguing about is which direction the script is likely to go.
Anonymous
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>>364429
>If the world actually is under the total control of bankster-masterminds, said masterminds aren't going to publicize their plans
It is already public. The only explanation why you don't know is you're are under the State TV' spell. >>350658 → >>331208 →
Also in case you need further education >>350315 →
Anonymous
No.364434
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>>364429
Regarding the banksters and Ukraine.
You should visit the Israel 2.0 thread >>358136 →
Also MSN news about Blackrock investing a ton of money in the future "reconstruction" of Ukraine. Very odd to put money in country at war with uncertainty about its future, unless, there is an agreement with the Kremlin already in place. If true, then this war is a farce to genocide the Ukrainians and hand over the land to the jews.
Anonymous
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>>364419
>I think the public is primed to support war
No. They're really not. Nobody I know wants that. I don't even see internet retards wanting that. Americans are still demoralized by the failed Afghan war. There is zero appetite for war with Russia.
Anonymous
No.364437
>>364425
>Russia may be tempted to land in Alaska to reclaim historical territories.
What historical territories? The land belonged to Russia at one point, but barely any Russians lived there at all.
Anonymous
No.364438
>>364428
>both are run by the same banksters who are the actual masterminds calling the shots.
I think you're misinterpreting how banksters run things. Bankers control economies and thereby countries financially, but they don't necessarily assert direct political control, because controlling the economy is good enough for them, and they have plausible deniability to always go to the winning side of any global conflict after having supported and influenced both sides. Just because they influenced both sides of a conflict doesn't mean those factions aren't actually at odds with one another. The political conflict between America and Russia is real, and its existed since before the cold war. It was greatly exacerbated when Clinton added all those easy block states to NATO and freaked out the Russians while post-Soviet Russia was in a delicate process of demilitarization, democratization, and switching to a market-oriented economy; that move effectively restarted the Cold War, and we're seeing the consequences now.
Anonymous
No.364439
>>364430
What do any of those links have to do with Russia or Ukraine?
Anonymous
No.364440
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>>364434
>MSN news about Blackrock investing a ton of money in the future "reconstruction" of Ukraine. Very odd to put money in country at war with uncertainty about its future
Ukraine will need to be reconstructed no matter what. If Ukraine wins, western countries will pour billions in gibs to rebuild its economy and make it a formidable economic and military adversary on Russia's border. If Russia wins, they'll pour billions into it to properly annex it into Russia and take advantage of its resources and strategic position (especially those warm water ports, mineral/gas resources, and consolidation of the world's wheat supply). In either case, a huge reconstruction project will be under way: the only question is who's side will it be on. Neither side would refuse the giant amount of Blackrock investment money, because they'll be pressed for cash after investing so much in the war, and will be hurrying to reconstruct and take advantage of the war aftermath.
So long as there's chaos and destruction, the investors win. No deals are necessary at this point, because no side will refuse the investment.
Anonymous
No.364441
>>364436
That is why the fucking psychos in the White House are so aggressive in their "aid". They want the others to make the first move, or even something that can be interpreted as a first move, or better, powertrip the country they're "aiding" into making a move for them.
No one wants war, but America is setting up every kind of trap to make one happen. So far, it seems nothing worked, not even the egregiously obvious false flags that is the bridge, the dam, and god knows what else.
The world smartened up to US kikery and also can get away with acting accordingly due to America's crippled status right now.
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>>364440
>If Russia wins, they'll pour billions into it to properly annex it into Russia and take advantage of its resources and strategic position
Yeah, right.
According to you the logical thing to do is to fund Putin's territories.
Anonymous
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>June 17, SitRep.
>Prior to this SitRep is my talking head tired of illiterate military technological BS being spread by Western media, especially those from that little insignificant island country which still pretends that it matters.
>This is for those who still think about "putting boots" of the US Army on the ground. Read my lips:
>1. US Army is not prepared to fight such a war because it will be denied practically every single advantage it usually has over mighty Taliban, Grenada or terrorist groups with AK-47s and RPGs. Plus, US Army cannot fight without USAF dominating skies. There will be no USAF in the skies in case of Washington willing to commit a suicide;
https://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/2023/06/june-17-sitrep.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZQ1CZp-bhM
Anonymous
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>>364523
Screenshot from the video.
Anonymous
No.364525
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On Putin's treason, told by Belarus' president Lukashenko.
Now it begins to pop details up why the Kremlin does not want to win the war.

>Lukashenko Reveals Hidden Sell-Out Agenda Behind Secret Moscow-Kiev Talks
>Thank God we have Luka.
>The real news comes from many miles behind the contact line, from Minsk, in fact, where President Lukashenko decided to casually drop an insider bombshell into the public discussion following Putin’s presser with the war correspondents.
>Luka revealed that secret negotiations were being held between Moscow and Kiev to appease the Kremlin’s esteemed Western partners.
>Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed with Ukraine the possibility of renting Crimea and Donbass.
>The leader of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, spoke about this in an interview with the Rossiya 1 TV channel. According to him, Putin discussed this issue with the Ukrainian side after the start of a special military operation (SVO), when a draft treaty on the cessation of hostilities was being considered. Lukashenka noted that Putin showed him the relevant document.
>“Putin gives me a document that was initialed by the delegations. It's normal, even in the Crimea - there is some kind of long-term lease, in the Donbass, in the east. <…> A normal agreement,” the leader of Belarus added.
>Lukashenka clarified that negotiations on the lease of Crimea and Donbas were conducted after the start of the SMO, last spring, when the Foreign Ministries of Russia and Ukraine met in Istanbul.
https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/belarus-reveals-hidden-sell-out-agenda
Anonymous
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>>364525
Moar.
Putin attempts damage control:

>Putin Flashes Page of Secret Agreement Signed Between Moscow and Kiev Last Year at African Peace Summit
>Almost certainly in response to what Lukashenko revealed a few days ago about a secret clause in the Kiev-Moscow peace deal, the Kremlin has first come out and categorically denied the revelation, and has now used the forum of the meeting with African leader to reveal that a secret peace deal was indeed signed, but then discarded by Kiev.
>First of all, by denying what Lukashenko revealed, Peskov is essentially calling the president of an ally nation a liar.
>It also begged the question, which I voiced, of why they didn’t just reveal what was contained in the agreement to dispel any rumors. As of yet, the rumors have not been dispelled. But, the existence of the document was confirmed by Putin, who flashed a page at the summit with the African leaders. The meeting with the Africans is interesting in its own right. The proposals submitted to Russia were nothing short of humiliating. Naturally, the same liars who pretended that the presser was a success are already saying that this summit proves that Russia has achieved a multipolar world already, or something equally inane.
>Yesterday, the well-known Russian political scientist Sergei Markov revealed the essence of the “African Peace Initiative” in his telegram channel (https://t.me/logikamarkova/6907), and in a very benevolent tone. And given its proximity to the Kremlin, this “benevolentness” obviously stems from this fact.
>And now carefully read what this "benevolent attitude" extends to:
>1. A cease fire.
>2. A neutral zone.
>3. Entry of UN peacekeepers.
>4. Autonomy of conflict regions under UN patronage.
>5. Referendum in conflict regions under the auspices of the UN.
>In my opinion, this "initiative" is a proposal for the unconditional surrender of the Russian Federation in Ukraine.
https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/putin-flashes-page-of-secret-agreement
Anonymous
No.364536
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>>364525
If they don't want to win, why don't they surrender?
Anonymous
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>>364536
America will gangrape Russia's ass if they finish this war. It is absolutely vital that America does not gain a hold on Russia and also China. America will kneecap friend and foe alike to stay a world power (ie drain everyone else's resources to fuel whatever wasteful political games they keep playing in the Capitol).
We are in a period where the US has shown a weak spot after so many decades of exploitation. Everyone is attacking it in their own ways, because they're all scared and tired of World Police. This war, unfortunately, must continue until America topples. America needs this war to continue as well, for it serves as an excuse to make money flow and keep people distracted from the dysfunction.
Anonymous
No.364562
>>364538
Then why am I hearing that Russia doesn't want to win?
Anonymous
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Apparently shit's going down now between the Wagner Group and the Russian government
Anonymous
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>>364577
Someone bribed the PMC, I guess? I honestly have no trust in any western news source on anything anymore.
Anonymous
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some will say CIA organized this coup d'état; I wonder how. I love how this is going - in a few days the west will want Putin back.
Anonymous
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>>364577
>>364578
Anonymous
No.364608
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It's already over. They negotiated and Prigozhin (leader of Wagner paramilitary group) will be exiled to Belarus and all members of Wagner will be pardoned.
Anonymous
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>>364604
Cope and Sneed
Anonymous
No.364631
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>>364608
Lol, that was fast. What even was the point.
Anonymous
No.364633
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>>364631
>What even was the point
Prove that this is officially the most boring war in history.
That and Prigozhin securing his boomer-bux.
Anonymous
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>Prigozhin Wins the SMO, Lives to Fight Another Day
>Round 1 is over, folks.
>The last 24 hours did, in fact, end with a Wagner win. Only, so few understand what actually happened which is why there is a tangible atmosphere of disappointment hanging in the air. Let’s clear that up now. My goal here is to be as objective as possible and not to defend Wagner or Shoigu, but just to present the facts.
https://roloslavskiy.substack.com/p/prigozhin-wins-the-smo-lives-to-fight
Anonymous
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Another take:

>The Wagner “Coup”
https://voxday.net/2023/06/24/the-wagner-coup/
>Debacle in Rostov
https://voxday.net/2023/06/25/debacle-in-rostov/
Anonymous
No.364638
>>364613
>trust jews
Go back to reddit.
Anonymous
No.364640
>>364613
What are you trying to say? Who's coping, and over what?
Anonymous
No.364641
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>>364633
>Prigozhin securing his boomer-bux
That was his only goal to begin with. He's a literal mercenary.
Anonymous
No.364642
>>364538
>This war, unfortunately, must continue until America topples.
How is that supposed to work? America isn't just going to topple from spending money to Ukraine.
Anonymous
No.364643
>>364608
I never expected anything to come of this, but I'm surprised it didn't end with mass arrests.
Anonymous
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Let's have IDs in the next thread, alright?
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>>364644
Anonymous
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>>364648
Wow, I totally didn't know that
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>>364649
Glad you are understanding.
Do not wait and begin typing your name.
Anonymous
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>>364641
It wasn't ironic. And its still the gayest war to date.
Anonymous
No.364666
>>364656
>its still the gayest war to date.
Anon is not wrong.
Anonymous
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