Considering that I've only ever heard those terms used together in context of liberals talking about it, I would consider it as a string of buzzwords. Likely an attempt to link Christianity to white nationalism in the media.
Also the premise that the founding fathers were Christians is flawed. They were satanic freemasons.
All of them? Where did you hear that?
You can call puritans cultists, but that's not the same as satanism.
Ima take a day before refuting this one, hopefully it's the last.
Let me guess>the founding fathers wer MASONS which is bad for reasons that will never be explained except allusions in long-winded youtube videos>but theyre BAD, thats the takeaway>no youre not allowed to ask about how/why theyre bad, cuz Ive got loose inferences!>If you disagree, you're PART OF THE DECEPTION
Hamlin's razor has something to say in this scenario, but again Im giving it a day.
>>348955>Jesuits to prevail against their common enemy, England.
What a fucking joke. The Jesuits were all over England just as they were America. They practically ran the Anglican church.>according to the Bible, they were antichrists.
That's an interpretation I've seen applied to people at every word in history, with just as little grounding.>Ben Franklin in an occult group
That's bullshit, but I'll believe it... The guy was a total weirdo.
Occult is a fancy word for 'encoded'. Every scripture is encoded. Wana see the Bible decoded? Look up Jordan Peterson's Bible series, he does a good job separating the ideas from orthodoxy
A globalist shill can't do much in the way of "decoding", am afraid.
Willful ignorance will get you far in life, anon
You've done nothing but posturing for months.
It isnt credible to compound willful ignorance with more, anon. Someday you will have to learn to speak truth. At least, one can hope so.
>>348965>Willful ignorance will get you far in life, anon
Peterstein is a shill and a vehicle for subversion. Granted, his message has substance but only to normie tier listeners.
I'll let you be for now.>No ID's
They've only made it so much easier.
Is anyobe NOT a shill to you? I acknowledge, JP has a glaring blind spot for the jews that he will have to address someday but that says nothing of his proficiency at sussing out the meaning behind scripture. You may not like it, but go ahead, try to refute it.>348972
Dont hold back on my account, nigger
I'm OP, if the lack of IDs unnerve you you can always type your name in the Replay dialog.
You could also just not respond to the thread, or make your own thread.
He decided against IDs for a reason. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's not like you have to participate.
Your opinion is hollow, watch the documentary and then come back, faggot.
>>348945>controlled opposition alternative
Since this thread has already been derailed by paranoid spergs ranting about freemasons or whatever the fuck, I'd like to derail it even further with a rant of my own.
Can we just let the "X is controlled opposition" meme die already? At worst it turns people against movements/campaigns/politicians that, while not perfect, usually have at least some potential and need momentum to get off the ground. Rejecting them out of hand for no reason beyond that they fail to pass some kind of ridiculous online Nazi purity test is counterproductive and stupid. At its absolute best, all it accomplishes is to give people who usually won't take action anyway an excuse to continue doing nothing. Worse, it enables them and gives them an undeserved sense of superiority, as if by refusing to participate in any political process or align themselves even temporarily with any movement then they are somehow smarter or savvier than the people who get "duped."
As to the actual issue of Christian Nationalism, this is one of the topics in the news I've been keeping an eye on. Here is what I know about it so far.
Basically, Democrats are shitting themselves over Biden's unpopularity, their lack of a viable alternative to Biden, and the likelihood that they're going to lose the House and probably the Senate this year. So, they've been trying to come up with ways to smear Republicans, specifically the rising tide of conservative, non-establishment Republicans, in a way that will turn the general public against them. Their main goal is to sway the opinions of independent voters and all the other groups the Republicans have made gains with recently, nogs and Mexicans and whatever, by making their brand seem more toxic.
"Christian Nationalism" is a term that some Democratic strategist came up with. The last label they tried (that I can remember) was "Ultra Maga" and that didn't seem to catch on. In other words, most of what you hear about "Christian Nationalism" in the normie press is just the usual optics bullshit.
However, Marjorie Taylor Greene recently decided to embrace the label and declared herself a Christian Nationalist, so now the idea is beginning to gain traction in normie conservative circles.
His basic take on it is that it's the next stage of the MAGA movement and Trumpism; basically, what started as a general revolt against the woke left is beginning to develop into an actual doctrine and platform, pitting the Christian Right against the Atheist Left. The argument is that this is just the latest development in a larger trend of Red State America asserting its own values against the nu-values of progressivism. His view is that Christian Nationalism is probably worth supporting for the time being. It represents a continuation of the hostile takeover of the Republican party started by Trump, but unlike Trumpism has a defined set of values.
Personally, I'm inclined to agree that this is a genuine movement and that it has potential. It's probably going to attract the usual set of grifters and whatnot, and in the end as a movement it will probably collapse and be replaced with something else. However, big picture wise, I think it's a continued step in the right direction.
>>348984>Can we just let the "X is controlled opposition" meme die already?
Nope, if you look closer about who is funding them, you always find a nose. Follow the money anon.
>>348984>His basic take on it is that it's the next stage of the MAGA movement and Trumpism; basically, what started as a general revolt against the woke left is beginning to develop into an actual doctrine and platform, pitting the Christian Right against the Atheist Left. The argument is that this is just the latest development in a larger trend of Red State America asserting its own values against the nu-values of progressivism. His view is that Christian Nationalism is probably worth supporting for the time being. It represents a continuation of the hostile takeover of the Republican party started by Trump, but unlike Trumpism has a defined set of values.>Personally, I'm inclined to agree that this is a genuine movement and that it has potential. It's probably going to attract the usual set of grifters and whatnot, and in the end as a movement it will probably collapse and be replaced with something else. However, big picture wise, I think it's a continued step in the right direction.
Your analysis is sound, but the foundations of that movement is shaky as hell. America is not a Christian country, the original settlers were, and the only way to make it one is to tear down and burn to the ground all institutions and laws and replace them with The Bible.
Fair points all, and for the record I don't view this as any kind of permanent or stable movement, nor do I intend to fully throw my support behind it without any question or reserve. But it is a rallying point that can draw people in and provide a center for a broader movement to gather around. The Trump MAGA thing was the same way. I didn't completely like or agree with everything that movement was about even in that 2015-2016 era (lots of trannies and Jews and whatnot), Trump's actual presidency was a mixed bag at best, and Kekistan and a lot of the shit that was orbiting around in those circles was pure cringe and didn't age well. However, I supported it for roughly the same reason I support this, which is basically that it was offering an alternative to both the left's bullshit and the milquetoast alternative the Republicans had to offer. Basically, I supported it because it was the best option available at the time, and it was better than the alternative option that came before it (Mitt Romney and all that). I'm willing to support this for the same reason, provided it proves viable.>America is not a Christian country, the original settlers were, and the only way to make it one is to tear down and burn to the ground all institutions and laws and replace them with The Bible.
This is true enough, and I don't expect it to ever go this far. For the record I'm not a Christian either and I don't care that much what anyone else's religious beliefs are. I do think that religion plays an important role in uniting a people, and some form of genuine heartfelt spirituality is essential to any successful culture. There's never been a successful civilization founded on atheism. Christianity provided that stability for Whites for a long time, but it seems to be kind of dying out, and I agree with you that it's unlikely that the goal of transforming America into some kind of radical Christian theocracy based on the Bible is realistic or even desirable. Personally, I'd like it if Whites would start embracing something like Asatru, or some other return to traditional Pagan religion. However, I'm realistic about the chances of that happening anytime soon. If Christianity ever made a serious comeback and became the cultural center of White civilization again I'd go along with it, even if I might privately have some reservations about its theology.
America is a massively unstable country, precisely because there is nothing whatsoever uniting it. It has no uniform ethnic identity, no racial identity, no cultural identity. Whatever religion the original founders might have had, it hasn't seriously been a Christian country for at least 100 years. However, up until very recently, it at least pretended to be one, and ironically that was the only reason it held together for so long. At this point all bets are off. Whatever happens, in 100 years, America probably won't exist at all in its present form, so at this point it makes more sense to think about what comes next and how to steer around some of the absolutely God-awful futures that could potentially come about than it does to worry about "fixing" America or making it great again, or whatever. Thus, I would say our main priority right now should be taking a sledgehammer to all the ZOG/WEF/NWO globalist neoliberal faggotry, and any stepping stone that gets us closer to that goal is worth using.
>>348983>watch the documentary
no, argue your case on your own.
>>348984>Worse, it enables them and gives them an undeserved sense of superiority, as if by refusing to participate in any political process or align themselves even temporarily with any movement then they are somehow smarter or savvier than the people who get "duped."
thats because we objectively are, glownigger. or if you insist you are not why dont you go die to save those boomers that got gitmod on janurary 6th. yeah didn't fucking think so. Race realism. Whites don't do anything to protect our own race, its fucking obvious. Expecting more out of your fellow man is a mistake, if you want to fight back against globohomo take the feudalism pill.
>>348987>his analysis is sound
no it isn't. 40+ years ago conservatives in this country have been stirring up pearl cluchers constantly to institute departments, regulations, and ordinances in order to later use these things as tools against them by the woke leftist shitheels. It's just WASP flavored marxism, same as the republican party. These people are not your friends. they would gladly do everything their enemies do with a coat of paint, or in the guise of (((liberating))) some shithole oversees.
>>348990>the goal of transforming America into some kind of radical Christian theocracy based on the Bible
I suspect funded by jews, staffed with freemasons and scientology plants.
Care to validate that position?
>>348990>and I agree with you that it's unlikely that the goal of transforming America into some kind of radical Christian theocracy based on the Bible is realistic or even desirable.
Actually it is realistic and very desirable, but the main obstacle is the People themselves.
Look it this way, on one hoof we have zog agents and grifters position themselves to lead the movement, on the other hoof a number of opportunistic faggots wanting to cash out their support. All of them count in taking over the State Apparatus. But if a decentralized theocracy takes over, government careers are over, benefits are over, pensions are over, laws are over, only the Bible counts. No jails, jailers, judges, police will be necessary as the town's elders will decide the punishment: hanging, flogging, or waking free.
Remove the money enticement and most of the evil will be gone.
>>348945>Or a new controlled opposition alternative?
Yes and no.
It's controlled opposition.
But it's not new.
See: scofield bible
Christian and Nationalism are ultimately antithetical.
Go listen to WLP.
>>348945>being christian>good>being white nationalist>visibly glowing>"either victory or death" motto>who dies? martyrdom? I thought this was just about spreading ideas. >no poster ID in the thread
bait post + glowing + gay + fed + L + not a pony fan>using Jesus to justify murder.
your ideas are gay, and you should feel gay.
>>348992>hurr durr ur a fed>string of internet buzzwords>take the X pill
This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about: "Everything sucks, ids hobless :DDDD, Jews control everything and can't be defeated, so I'm just going to complain about it on the internet but otherwise do nothing. Anyone who says differently is a shill or a glowie." What I don't get about guys like you is that, if you're going to obstinately refuse to put any serious thought into your politics or translate your views into rational, positive action, why not just drop out of politics completely? Just go back to immersing yourself in hobbies and ignoring the world around you; you'll probably be a lot happier and the end result will be the same.
And no, I have no interest in pointlessly committing suicide by cop in order to spring the Jan. 6th boomers from whatever Federal bastille they're currently being held in. I feel sorry for those guys, but they dug their own hole. If they had enough sense to realize the election was stolen, they should have had enough sense to realize that they wouldn't get the same kid-glove treatment for protesting that Marxist rioters get.>>348999
This, too. All of this is pure speculation.>>349004
As I said, Christian theocracy isn't my personal cup of tea, but I'd take it over the dystopia that the Davos crowd is trying to set up. However, I think it would be a hard sell nationally. Again, the main problem with this country is that it's a disparate mass of everyone from everywhere, there's no shared culture or blood ties to hold everyone together, and you can't compel genuine religious belief. All a national theocracy could realistically do is coerce people to follow dogmas under threat of law, which isn't that different from what the left does currently. All of the underlying problems would still be there.
Large cosmopolitan empires never hold together for very long, which is why any sort of top-down centralized government will never be stable in America. It's also not going to work at a global level, which is why all the NWO stuff isn't practical or stable either. Even if Klaus Schwab and all the rest of those ghouls succeed in what they're trying to do they won't be able to maintain their empire for very long; in fact to me it looks like it's already collapsing. It's mostly just a question of how much misery they can inflict before the whole thing implodes.
At a state or local level Christian theocracy becomes more promising. Areas that are predominantly Christian would adapt naturally to a system of government based on Biblical law, and whatever leftist minority exists in those areas would be rendered irrelevant; they could either sit down and shut up or pack up and leave. Federal power is the main impediment to setting something like that up, so at the national level it makes the most sense to push for dismantling as much of the Federal bureaucracy as possible and returning power to state and local governments, which could structure themselves to fit the values of their populations.
Before the artificial consensus crew starts throwing out epithets, this was an excellent post
i think you mean (((scofieldite))) nationalism
Kikestainity has always been controlled opposition. It's impossible to overstate the spiritual damage that has been done to gentiles forced to worship the Jewish demiurge at the point of a sword for the past 2000 years
You could mangle the word more to show your true feelings on it.
Instead of Kikestainity you could call it Kikestaintits.
Thats dumb. Kikestainity is a parody of Christianity. Kikestaintits is nonsense, and has no corollary.
Talking about grifters.
>LAURA LOOMER FOUND JESUS - (SHES A POLITICAL RELIGIOUS CARPETBAGGER)
>The Grifter Right Wing carpetbagging take many forms. Milo for for example is a religious and sexual carpetbagger. Loomer hopes to grift and rip off the elderly white Christians in Central Florida and she has a lot of low lives helping her out.
A remind that churches are bounded and are compliant with Babylon.
This thread has given me hope. Thanks anons
>>349350>has always been controlled opposition
Can you elaborate on this? You think it was controlled opposition even back in the time of the Roman empire, when it was just a tiny cult of ex-Jews?
And by what do you mean controlled opposition? You opposition to Jews controlled by Jews (which there is a case to be made for, considering the behavior of American Christians)? You mean it's always been that way, all the way through the Byzantine empire medieval times? All those Jew-removals and talmud-burnings were just for show?
I don't really see what you're trying to say here.
Not him, but I assume that what he is saying is that Abrahamism by whatever name is intellectual slavery. Whether jewish, christian, or muslim, all three have literally written into their scripture the idea of submission. And to some, submission is the ultimate sin from wjoch there is NO recompense.
I don't think Abrahamic religions are necessarily unique in that regard.
No contest, but was not so for old-school kristos