It's happening! The Conservatives stand to gain any seats, mostly from the SNP in Scotland and in Northern England. However, labor has narrowed the gap against the Conservatives. In short, it looks like Labor has recovered largely, but the Conservatives may still win many seats.
> the latest General Election polls are showing the gap between Labour and the Conservatives has narrowing to six points.
>the poll from Survation has the Tory lead at just one point over Labour, while ComRes has it standing at 12 points
>Thanks to seat gains in the North of England and Scotland, Theresa May would benefit from a swing of 45 seats and end up with 375 MPs in Parliament.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/general-election-polls-latest-tracker-odds/amp/
Our resident Englishman-Japanese user has a related thread here >>34094. Please forgive me if this thread is too close to that one, and give that thread love too.
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Well at least the entire enconomy didnt tank and labour doesnt get to prevent Brexit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCEamUarOSI
More rousing music just to show no matter who is in charge the UK is always fucked by those in Westminster.
Yesterday the shadow home secretary took the day off and they say serious illness and then she says she will be back soon. How can people elect someone into one of the most powerful positions in government not knowing is she is just a lazy coward or has a mental illness that affects judgement. Both would make her a dangerous person to be in charge of security. This is not going to happen thankfully. The labour party also had their costings completely thrown out which everyone knew was the case but no one in the media seriously challenged it. Today there will be no real coverage as people are voting and electioneering is not allowed on polling day.
I was more into watching the tennis my evening because match was UK against JP. Not that I like clay tennis much as slow but nice to see the Japanese man (actually lived most of his life in the US) loose. He lost it after a lucky ball from Murray caught the net and that destroyed his momentum.
Last day of campaigning as utterly confused me and I have zero idea what the result is going to be. At least that will make the results fun to watch.
More rousing music just to show no matter who is in charge the UK is always fucked by those in Westminster.
Yesterday the shadow home secretary took the day off and they say serious illness and then she says she will be back soon. How can people elect someone into one of the most powerful positions in government not knowing is she is just a lazy coward or has a mental illness that affects judgement. Both would make her a dangerous person to be in charge of security. This is not going to happen thankfully. The labour party also had their costings completely thrown out which everyone knew was the case but no one in the media seriously challenged it. Today there will be no real coverage as people are voting and electioneering is not allowed on polling day.
I was more into watching the tennis my evening because match was UK against JP. Not that I like clay tennis much as slow but nice to see the Japanese man (actually lived most of his life in the US) loose. He lost it after a lucky ball from Murray caught the net and that destroyed his momentum.
Last day of campaigning as utterly confused me and I have zero idea what the result is going to be. At least that will make the results fun to watch.
>>34220
Polls close at 10:00 PM today local time in Britian. Here is an election tracker
https://www.google.com/amp/www.politico.eu/article/uk-election-results-2017-live/amp/
Polls close at 10:00 PM today local time in Britian. Here is an election tracker
https://www.google.com/amp/www.politico.eu/article/uk-election-results-2017-live/amp/
It looks like May fucked up by calling for an election at this stage. She's not gonna get nearly as good of a parliamentary majority as she wanted.
Will May win ?
Lots of people told me Cons are losing ground. May looks as bad as Corbyn so I don't know what to think about these elections.
Lots of people told me Cons are losing ground. May looks as bad as Corbyn so I don't know what to think about these elections.
There is some proper shilling going on for Corbyn in my social circles but I guess that's because I'm in the ultra Labour stronghold of Manchester. I know my vote most likely won't change that but I voted UKIP anyway since the Tory candidate is a "literally who" and he won't get many votes.
>>34937
>shilling for Corbyn
Every old blind Labour voter has to realize that Corbyn is a cuck. I can't understand why people would want this guy.
It's important that Britain stays strong behind it's government, when they have to make their Brexit-Deals.
And then their are some guys who vote for Corbyn?!
I know just 2 people from the UK who supported Corbyn… And they just did it for one reason… tuition fees.
They just think about this one single thing. Not more.
>shilling for Corbyn
Every old blind Labour voter has to realize that Corbyn is a cuck. I can't understand why people would want this guy.
It's important that Britain stays strong behind it's government, when they have to make their Brexit-Deals.
And then their are some guys who vote for Corbyn?!
I know just 2 people from the UK who supported Corbyn… And they just did it for one reason… tuition fees.
They just think about this one single thing. Not more.
>>35071
The Conservatives are Nr.1, they will be Nr.1 and it was always expected for them to win. No surprise here.
But the (((Exit-Polls))) say that Labor gets closer to the Conservatives than expected.
And this could be some real problem in the upcomming Brexit.
The Conservatives are Nr.1, they will be Nr.1 and it was always expected for them to win. No surprise here.
But the (((Exit-Polls))) say that Labor gets closer to the Conservatives than expected.
And this could be some real problem in the upcomming Brexit.
Hung Parliament predicted by Exit polls!
Livetracker:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/08/general-election-2017-exit-polls-results-live/
Livetracker:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/08/general-election-2017-exit-polls-results-live/
Britain has some shitty choices. Hopefully the Conservatives will have at least some balls for Brexit.
>>35116
Most parties would rather we just go back into the EU since they love globalism. Not saying the Tories don't either, but they are more likely to actually do the job unlike the others.
Most parties would rather we just go back into the EU since they love globalism. Not saying the Tories don't either, but they are more likely to actually do the job unlike the others.
>>34220
Rumour that Finchley will go back to Labour. Maggie T old place. It was labour before and more importantly was where I sent my pony themed vote. Result not in so will wait.
Rumour that Finchley will go back to Labour. Maggie T old place. It was labour before and more importantly was where I sent my pony themed vote. Result not in so will wait.
>>35117
>Most parties would rather we just go back into the EU since they love globalism.
God damn it!
>Most parties would rather we just go back into the EU since they love globalism.
God damn it!
>>35120
Farage just said if Corbyn forms the government he will re-join politics to force brexit through properly.
Farage just said if Corbyn forms the government he will re-join politics to force brexit through properly.
Frankly, Brexit is the main reason to prefer the Conservatives, since otherwise they are just another undesirable Party. May has had a pretty good plan and attitude towards handling Brexit negotiations so far, in that she is not willing (or at least is less willing) to be intimidated into a terrible and vindictive deal by the EU
>>35123
This.
At least May has a fucking backbone, and would at lest try to stand up to those EU kikes.
This.
At least May has a fucking backbone, and would at lest try to stand up to those EU kikes.
>>35127
Early days with results but the worst case is a hung parliament because it means a serious arse fucking by E.U. and the DUP (North Ireland) getting lots of political power which really fucks up England.
Need at least another 2 hours for any real result.
Early days with results but the worst case is a hung parliament because it means a serious arse fucking by E.U. and the DUP (North Ireland) getting lots of political power which really fucks up England.
Need at least another 2 hours for any real result.
>>35129
Do you think the exit polls have any serious likelihood of not reflecting the actual result? I hope A hung parliament does not result
Do you think the exit polls have any serious likelihood of not reflecting the actual result? I hope A hung parliament does not result
>>35132
Exit polls are notoriously schizo. Sometimes spot on and sometimes fully wrong. They are now forecasting via results and the Tories will not have a majority but will be one seat from it. In reality that would lead to a continued Tory government with no power.
Exit polls are notoriously schizo. Sometimes spot on and sometimes fully wrong. They are now forecasting via results and the Tories will not have a majority but will be one seat from it. In reality that would lead to a continued Tory government with no power.
>>34220
I honestly didn't keep up with anything at all coming from the UK. With all that is happening in the states and then that one defeat in France. Really what is the 411?
I honestly didn't keep up with anything at all coming from the UK. With all that is happening in the states and then that one defeat in France. Really what is the 411?
>>35197
Declared at hung parliament but 29 seats to go. No one has a clue what happens next. Conservatives will still take charge but May will not last long. Back room deals for the next 5 years. Lots of fun to be had.
Declared at hung parliament but 29 seats to go. No one has a clue what happens next. Conservatives will still take charge but May will not last long. Back room deals for the next 5 years. Lots of fun to be had.
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>>35225
Oh god, the UK is soo fucked.
This is the worst possible thing that could have happened right before the Brexit.
Oh god, the UK is soo fucked.
This is the worst possible thing that could have happened right before the Brexit.
>>35283
Not necessarily. This could force the majority party (Tories) to form a unofficial coalition with the DUP in order to gain power. This means that it will push the Tories much harder to the right in order to gain the votes of the DUP. While it may look like the left won small victory, this could easily end up pushing Britain hard right. At least so I've heard a britpol.
Not necessarily. This could force the majority party (Tories) to form a unofficial coalition with the DUP in order to gain power. This means that it will push the Tories much harder to the right in order to gain the votes of the DUP. While it may look like the left won small victory, this could easily end up pushing Britain hard right. At least so I've heard a britpol.
>>35286
That'll only work if all the Brits know what's best for them, and willingly cooperate to work for a better future.
Seems like wishful thinking to me, and naive at that… I'm not about to give up on them though.
That'll only work if all the Brits know what's best for them, and willingly cooperate to work for a better future.
Seems like wishful thinking to me, and naive at that… I'm not about to give up on them though.
>>34220
So Con is the good and Lab is the bad or something? Then who is all the rest? Britain has allot of political parties vs the USA. I remember once someone breaking a few of them down, but I can't remember who and where.
I remember one person mentioned one of the parties were actually communist or communistic in how they acted. I am going to take a wild shot and say that is the Labour?
>in before burger education
Yes because foreign governments and how they work is the highlight of every topic in burgerland.
Also came from /mlp/ not /pol/ and trying to get actual ideologies of parties in foreign governments is like watching a bunch of propaganda.
So Con is the good and Lab is the bad or something? Then who is all the rest? Britain has allot of political parties vs the USA. I remember once someone breaking a few of them down, but I can't remember who and where.
I remember one person mentioned one of the parties were actually communist or communistic in how they acted. I am going to take a wild shot and say that is the Labour?
>in before burger education
Yes because foreign governments and how they work is the highlight of every topic in burgerland.
Also came from /mlp/ not /pol/ and trying to get actual ideologies of parties in foreign governments is like watching a bunch of propaganda.
>>35422
Con is literally only good because they can navigate brexit. Theyre pants on head retarded for social issues.
Labour is bad cause theyre marxist and will attempt to prevent brexit. Generally they have okay social views.
Brexit is the most impactful thing ever in UK. If its not handled right it could be treaty of Versailles bad.
But i hope waiving debt and free uni tuition happens cause ill use my dual citizenship and sniper snag me an additional degree.
Con is literally only good because they can navigate brexit. Theyre pants on head retarded for social issues.
Labour is bad cause theyre marxist and will attempt to prevent brexit. Generally they have okay social views.
Brexit is the most impactful thing ever in UK. If its not handled right it could be treaty of Versailles bad.
But i hope waiving debt and free uni tuition happens cause ill use my dual citizenship and sniper snag me an additional degree.
Any Brits here? I've heard Norn Iron is ignored by most of the country. Does a DUP-Tory coalition mean Northern Ireland gets more attention? Pork barreling, etc.
>>35286
All those young people who voted for labour were lucky not to be aware of the shit that Maggie T and the Orange men did in the 80`s. Schools fucked, mines closed, IRA bombing the main-land. Small minority of rich getting massively richer. Companies and banks de-regulated so much that you can trace the 2008 collapse back to the policies put in place during that period.
If anyone thinks that it is good to have a weak Tory government propped up by 10 divisive Irish seats then they will be having a steep learning curve over the next year. If anyone thinks the EU will go easy on us then they know nothing.
What has happened will help the Marxist agenda because it is just not possible to introduce such things until a country is suffering and the mob rule takes over. If this situation remains UK will quickly because the lowest economy in Europe. However I expect that May has about 6 months or less before the knives are out and we have a new PM. One pundit said summer recess will give us a leader challenge and there will be a new election before the end of the year.
All those young people who voted for labour were lucky not to be aware of the shit that Maggie T and the Orange men did in the 80`s. Schools fucked, mines closed, IRA bombing the main-land. Small minority of rich getting massively richer. Companies and banks de-regulated so much that you can trace the 2008 collapse back to the policies put in place during that period.
If anyone thinks that it is good to have a weak Tory government propped up by 10 divisive Irish seats then they will be having a steep learning curve over the next year. If anyone thinks the EU will go easy on us then they know nothing.
What has happened will help the Marxist agenda because it is just not possible to introduce such things until a country is suffering and the mob rule takes over. If this situation remains UK will quickly because the lowest economy in Europe. However I expect that May has about 6 months or less before the knives are out and we have a new PM. One pundit said summer recess will give us a leader challenge and there will be a new election before the end of the year.
>>35715
AH HA!!!
I was right, so the Labours are the Communist/marxist. I knew I remembered that from somewhere.
So it seems that the whole big deal with this election is over the brexit? I mean where does the other issue play a role or is this seriously just about trying to handle the Brexit thing?
Because that is where I got lost. I mean I tried to keep up with the whole France thing, at least that was a bit easy, just vote Le Pen.
This here is more an election over parliament right?
>>35742
A degree is a piece of paper, for some it means alot, others not so much.
Let me break it down. Education in college is mostly focused on a career choice. It narrows you into specializing and extorts thousands of dollars from the student to weed out any one not good enough. The more specialized your field of study, the more money they extort.
Ivy League will run you about $65,000 tuition. They specialize in Business, Law, Medical and Architecture. Full Sail will run you $74,000 and specialize in Computer Animation, Game Design, Programming and Web Design. WTF
So it forces the intelligent into working blue collar because they weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths.
Yet a man who is intelligent can read dozens of books and learn on his own merit the same skills which white collar class rooms teach. Practice on their own time and develop their skills and with out a paper, be turned from every job there is.
When they finally do go to college, and get that paper it is awarded for only 2 years and still worthless because the first two years is worthless to the eyes of any employer as being Core Courses and Junk classes and or electives. But because you studied years in advance you surpass all courses with a 4.0 GPA when you graduate.
All a piece of paper is, is simply a note saying "Do you know this trade? YES I DO!". Nothing more. And if you don't have that piece of paper. You are worthless.
Having everyone with that paper does nothing more than give a person the license to work. That is all it is.
AH HA!!!
I was right, so the Labours are the Communist/marxist. I knew I remembered that from somewhere.
So it seems that the whole big deal with this election is over the brexit? I mean where does the other issue play a role or is this seriously just about trying to handle the Brexit thing?
Because that is where I got lost. I mean I tried to keep up with the whole France thing, at least that was a bit easy, just vote Le Pen.
This here is more an election over parliament right?
>>35742
A degree is a piece of paper, for some it means alot, others not so much.
Let me break it down. Education in college is mostly focused on a career choice. It narrows you into specializing and extorts thousands of dollars from the student to weed out any one not good enough. The more specialized your field of study, the more money they extort.
Ivy League will run you about $65,000 tuition. They specialize in Business, Law, Medical and Architecture. Full Sail will run you $74,000 and specialize in Computer Animation, Game Design, Programming and Web Design. WTF
So it forces the intelligent into working blue collar because they weren't born with silver spoons in their mouths.
Yet a man who is intelligent can read dozens of books and learn on his own merit the same skills which white collar class rooms teach. Practice on their own time and develop their skills and with out a paper, be turned from every job there is.
When they finally do go to college, and get that paper it is awarded for only 2 years and still worthless because the first two years is worthless to the eyes of any employer as being Core Courses and Junk classes and or electives. But because you studied years in advance you surpass all courses with a 4.0 GPA when you graduate.
All a piece of paper is, is simply a note saying "Do you know this trade? YES I DO!". Nothing more. And if you don't have that piece of paper. You are worthless.
Having everyone with that paper does nothing more than give a person the license to work. That is all it is.
>>35715
In the US political system everyone is far right compared to the UK. A far right conservative in the UK is less than Bernie Sands in reality. However in the UK most people pic-n-mix their views and it is normal for someone to back both parties on a policy by policy basis. It is true that a strong Tory government was exactly what we needed for Brexit. We have now not got it and we will be fucked. The Tory party is always about less government control over industry, less taxes, less handouts. The labour government is about full government control of everything, more taxes and lots more handouts. The labour government thrives on life long poverty and servitude but unfortunately the only way for people to learn that is to live under a labour government. This election the labour government just promised the moon and as most English university students are incapable of adding up they just went along with the lie.
>>35742
Yes. It is pointless. I do not have a degree and have had plenty of jobs and none of them have needed a degree level of study but many of them have needed intelligence. The two are not mutually inclusive. I worked along side people with very good degrees and their level of education was a complete waste of time. However I do think that studying at university should be paid by the population and not the student but just go back to 8% entry rather than 40%. One student who voted labour was complaining about the cost of his SEVEN years at University. That would make him at least 25 and yet still wanting to be looked after by the state.
>>35802
DUP alliance is a very bad thing. It will lead to terrorism of some type. I am hearing it will be on vote for favours style which means there may only be 10 DUP MP`S but they will be able to ransom everything so basically policy by gun point.
My personal sadness is that now there is not chance of stopping the triple lock on pensions. The pension fund is made up of payments of people paying tax now. The pension payments rise each year above wages and tax income. Therefore the amount available becomes less year on year. To counter they raise the pension age. It was 65 and will now rise to 68. With the triple lock there will be no alternative to raise to 70 and beyond. So I will never get a state pension and those students who voted for free tuition will never have the chance of retirement. They just fucked up the next 60 years of their lives. However at least they will have HOPE!
In the US political system everyone is far right compared to the UK. A far right conservative in the UK is less than Bernie Sands in reality. However in the UK most people pic-n-mix their views and it is normal for someone to back both parties on a policy by policy basis. It is true that a strong Tory government was exactly what we needed for Brexit. We have now not got it and we will be fucked. The Tory party is always about less government control over industry, less taxes, less handouts. The labour government is about full government control of everything, more taxes and lots more handouts. The labour government thrives on life long poverty and servitude but unfortunately the only way for people to learn that is to live under a labour government. This election the labour government just promised the moon and as most English university students are incapable of adding up they just went along with the lie.
>>35742
Yes. It is pointless. I do not have a degree and have had plenty of jobs and none of them have needed a degree level of study but many of them have needed intelligence. The two are not mutually inclusive. I worked along side people with very good degrees and their level of education was a complete waste of time. However I do think that studying at university should be paid by the population and not the student but just go back to 8% entry rather than 40%. One student who voted labour was complaining about the cost of his SEVEN years at University. That would make him at least 25 and yet still wanting to be looked after by the state.
>>35802
DUP alliance is a very bad thing. It will lead to terrorism of some type. I am hearing it will be on vote for favours style which means there may only be 10 DUP MP`S but they will be able to ransom everything so basically policy by gun point.
My personal sadness is that now there is not chance of stopping the triple lock on pensions. The pension fund is made up of payments of people paying tax now. The pension payments rise each year above wages and tax income. Therefore the amount available becomes less year on year. To counter they raise the pension age. It was 65 and will now rise to 68. With the triple lock there will be no alternative to raise to 70 and beyond. So I will never get a state pension and those students who voted for free tuition will never have the chance of retirement. They just fucked up the next 60 years of their lives. However at least they will have HOPE!
>>35849
The 70s and 80s must've been Brtain at its lowest, going from ruling the world to losing a war over fish to fucking Iceland. Here's hoping our Anglo brethren can recover some of that lost glory.
The 70s and 80s must've been Brtain at its lowest, going from ruling the world to losing a war over fish to fucking Iceland. Here's hoping our Anglo brethren can recover some of that lost glory.
>>35880
In reality most people who grew up in the 70S and 80s had a lot of fun. I never gave a fuck about the British Empire, I never have a fuck about WW2 either. I was more interested in the 70`s of riding my bike, smoking cigaretes and swimming in the rivers. by the 80`s I cared more about getting out of my skull on drink and drugs riding around on a motorbike and reading extreme literature and watch extreme films. Plus the many many different types of computers that were around until Apple and Microsoft took over the world. I did miss cod fish fingers but not that bothered as shark fish fingers were just as tasty. I am sad for my nieces and nephews because they have grown up too quick, they do not take drugs, they do not rebel and they just start into their smart phones instead of going out and having fun. That however is me being an old fucker who just can not understand the young of today because I find them so fucking normal.
Would not worry about the future too much because he underbelly of English culture is always their and will rise again once brexit has been sorted. The EU may fuck us but 20 years from now they will regret not giving us a reach around.
In reality most people who grew up in the 70S and 80s had a lot of fun. I never gave a fuck about the British Empire, I never have a fuck about WW2 either. I was more interested in the 70`s of riding my bike, smoking cigaretes and swimming in the rivers. by the 80`s I cared more about getting out of my skull on drink and drugs riding around on a motorbike and reading extreme literature and watch extreme films. Plus the many many different types of computers that were around until Apple and Microsoft took over the world. I did miss cod fish fingers but not that bothered as shark fish fingers were just as tasty. I am sad for my nieces and nephews because they have grown up too quick, they do not take drugs, they do not rebel and they just start into their smart phones instead of going out and having fun. That however is me being an old fucker who just can not understand the young of today because I find them so fucking normal.
Would not worry about the future too much because he underbelly of English culture is always their and will rise again once brexit has been sorted. The EU may fuck us but 20 years from now they will regret not giving us a reach around.
>>35895
https://www.docdroid.net/6AG5ymt/dup-wminster-manifesto-2017-v5.pdf.html
This is the manifesto for the DUP. Not read it yet but am sure some strident tango inside.
https://www.docdroid.net/6AG5ymt/dup-wminster-manifesto-2017-v5.pdf.html
This is the manifesto for the DUP. Not read it yet but am sure some strident tango inside.
So, is this new Tory-DUP government going to have any likelihood of being as effective in Brexit as if there was no election?
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Guys, this is the DUP
Just saying
Just saying
>>36110
They look like a solid party, and they represent the good people of Ulster. Sounds better than the Conservatives actually
They look like a solid party, and they represent the good people of Ulster. Sounds better than the Conservatives actually
>>36110
Read the manifesto and stop listening to the gay marriage and abortion shit. That is not what this alliance is going to be about. They are going to get a big wad of cash for Ireland, they are going to keep the triple lock on pensions and I hope with all my heart that the BBC licence fee will get scrapped. It is not their social policy I worry about it is the back room deals made that will effect the future of Irish politics that is dangerous. Those British Army people being investigated should end in jail. It was the bullet currency and killing which prolonged the fighting. My feeling is the Brexit negotiations will start as planned but May will be out by the end of the year. The Tories will not want another general so I can not see how it can happen.
Read the manifesto and stop listening to the gay marriage and abortion shit. That is not what this alliance is going to be about. They are going to get a big wad of cash for Ireland, they are going to keep the triple lock on pensions and I hope with all my heart that the BBC licence fee will get scrapped. It is not their social policy I worry about it is the back room deals made that will effect the future of Irish politics that is dangerous. Those British Army people being investigated should end in jail. It was the bullet currency and killing which prolonged the fighting. My feeling is the Brexit negotiations will start as planned but May will be out by the end of the year. The Tories will not want another general so I can not see how it can happen.
>>36193
But the DUP represents the people of Ulster, right? Isn't that good for the future of Ireland?
But the DUP represents the people of Ulster, right? Isn't that good for the future of Ireland?
>>36196
They represent some of the people not all of them Sinn Fein represent the others. SF got seven seats and are the main opponents to the local politics in N Ireland. SF are in very basic terms the political wing of the IRA (very basic terms). May is meant to be neutral (though in reality the Tories are never neutral). This deal upsets a very delicate balance and NI politics on all sides are hard core campaigners in some ways harder to deal with then than anything the EU has. It is the worst outcome by far for an election and I am sure Corbyn is very happy with the chaos he has got. All those people who voted labour thinking they were giving the world hope have just put us all into slavery. However there is obviously enough people who remember back to Maggie T times to put a quick stop to this shit. If you want to learn about Irish difficulties then I advise watching this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117690/
It is biased and it is a drama but it does give a nice introduction into how fucked up the politics is and how dangerous it can get if unbalanced. If you enjoy that then watch `Cal` as well but much older and much more a drama than a reality.
They represent some of the people not all of them Sinn Fein represent the others. SF got seven seats and are the main opponents to the local politics in N Ireland. SF are in very basic terms the political wing of the IRA (very basic terms). May is meant to be neutral (though in reality the Tories are never neutral). This deal upsets a very delicate balance and NI politics on all sides are hard core campaigners in some ways harder to deal with then than anything the EU has. It is the worst outcome by far for an election and I am sure Corbyn is very happy with the chaos he has got. All those people who voted labour thinking they were giving the world hope have just put us all into slavery. However there is obviously enough people who remember back to Maggie T times to put a quick stop to this shit. If you want to learn about Irish difficulties then I advise watching this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117690/
It is biased and it is a drama but it does give a nice introduction into how fucked up the politics is and how dangerous it can get if unbalanced. If you enjoy that then watch `Cal` as well but much older and much more a drama than a reality.
>>36204
It is being reported that a deal has yet to be agreed in any form. There will be talks but I think behind the scenes too many people do not want any type of agreement with the DUP. Hard to get any facts or statements so have to rely purely on media bias. People need to note that Sunday is a holy day and the DUP do not work.
The other thing people need to understand is just because May does not have enough seats for an overall majority does not automatically mean she has to do a deal with anyone. The only two things a party with the most seats needs to do is firstly pass a Queens Speech. The QS is basically a list of things they will debate over. The Queen pops in the morning reads out a script and all politician vote to say yes or no to it. There is nothing stopping people in Labour or Other parties voting yes. This vote is relatively easy to get through. The other vote needed to prove governance is the Budget proposal. May would have to create a financial budget that would get support from people on both sides. She would have to compromise quite a lot of her parties ideals to do this. If it was members of MLPOL this would be easy because we are all human and all understand compromise is sometimes better. This is however the killer elite and they would prefer to drag the country into hell before they did anything logically sound. This whole mess is why I hate democracy so much because it shows how logic and compromise can never be found.
It is being reported that a deal has yet to be agreed in any form. There will be talks but I think behind the scenes too many people do not want any type of agreement with the DUP. Hard to get any facts or statements so have to rely purely on media bias. People need to note that Sunday is a holy day and the DUP do not work.
The other thing people need to understand is just because May does not have enough seats for an overall majority does not automatically mean she has to do a deal with anyone. The only two things a party with the most seats needs to do is firstly pass a Queens Speech. The QS is basically a list of things they will debate over. The Queen pops in the morning reads out a script and all politician vote to say yes or no to it. There is nothing stopping people in Labour or Other parties voting yes. This vote is relatively easy to get through. The other vote needed to prove governance is the Budget proposal. May would have to create a financial budget that would get support from people on both sides. She would have to compromise quite a lot of her parties ideals to do this. If it was members of MLPOL this would be easy because we are all human and all understand compromise is sometimes better. This is however the killer elite and they would prefer to drag the country into hell before they did anything logically sound. This whole mess is why I hate democracy so much because it shows how logic and compromise can never be found.
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This is what is written in the government handbook about such things. Note `not necessarily`. May can do all sorts of things if she wants to hang on. If she fails then Corbyn can also do a load of deals. Latest is that DUP will talk to may on Tuesday. That might not be soon enough as her enemies are strapping on pink penetrative devices already.
This is what is written in the government handbook about such things. Note `not necessarily`. May can do all sorts of things if she wants to hang on. If she fails then Corbyn can also do a load of deals. Latest is that DUP will talk to may on Tuesday. That might not be soon enough as her enemies are strapping on pink penetrative devices already.
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