So I'm writing this fanfic, two characters are playing a card game, and one just created an infinite loop within that game.
Should I show the loop happening three times, ten times, or 1488 times before eventually letting some deus ex machina/one character surrendering end the game, and by extension, the infinite loop?
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Not joking.
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>>197769
Okay, so the obvious first question is: is this fic that fucking long just to take the piss out of whatever weeb card game this is?
The second question is: are you mad?
Okay, so the obvious first question is: is this fic that fucking long just to take the piss out of whatever weeb card game this is?
The second question is: are you mad?
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>Background Pony is a highly regarded fanfic.
>Background Pony at one point repeats the same exact phrase two hundred and fifty-seven times in a row.
>Therefore, to produce a better fic than Background Pony, you should repeat this exact loop at least two hundred and fifty-eight times.
>Background Pony at one point repeats the same exact phrase two hundred and fifty-seven times in a row.
>Therefore, to produce a better fic than Background Pony, you should repeat this exact loop at least two hundred and fifty-eight times.
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>>197910
Yo nigga
I know you like to write, but no one is going to read that shit.
Honestly, no one is going to read more than one page of a fanfic if it's not interesting.
Quality > Quantity
I bet you can't write a 10 pages fanfic that's actually good, why don't you try it and prove me wrong?
Yo nigga
I know you like to write, but no one is going to read that shit.
Honestly, no one is going to read more than one page of a fanfic if it's not interesting.
Quality > Quantity
I bet you can't write a 10 pages fanfic that's actually good, why don't you try it and prove me wrong?
>>197999
This, it's an honest word of advice and citicism.
Having needlessly long text isn't good. Richness can be a good thing to illustrate important scenes, but if you go overboard and write too many words, you'll only waste your time.
I used to be into writing a bit myself, and I struggeled with the exact same problem.
As practice, you should try to write stories with intentionally low word counts; see how much you can creativity describe in as little text as possible. Setting time limits for yourself is also a good mode of practice.
>>197769
And to answer your question, do not under any circumstances just write the same crap over and over again because it repeats. Doing that would be confusing and frustrating to your audience, and really just a waste of time for both parties. If you make your reader feel like they've wasted their attention span, they might decide it's not worth reading.
Figure out a way to describe what's happening without making your reader read the same lines over and over. If you want to put some repetition in to build the scene (if it's supposed to be especially tense), you should put something in between each mention to build it up.
You could plausibly explain what's going on in only a few sentences, it a short paragraph. The real question is how much imagery you want to invest in this scene, and how you want to go about illustrating it.
This, it's an honest word of advice and citicism.
Having needlessly long text isn't good. Richness can be a good thing to illustrate important scenes, but if you go overboard and write too many words, you'll only waste your time.
I used to be into writing a bit myself, and I struggeled with the exact same problem.
As practice, you should try to write stories with intentionally low word counts; see how much you can creativity describe in as little text as possible. Setting time limits for yourself is also a good mode of practice.
>>197769
And to answer your question, do not under any circumstances just write the same crap over and over again because it repeats. Doing that would be confusing and frustrating to your audience, and really just a waste of time for both parties. If you make your reader feel like they've wasted their attention span, they might decide it's not worth reading.
Figure out a way to describe what's happening without making your reader read the same lines over and over. If you want to put some repetition in to build the scene (if it's supposed to be especially tense), you should put something in between each mention to build it up.
You could plausibly explain what's going on in only a few sentences, it a short paragraph. The real question is how much imagery you want to invest in this scene, and how you want to go about illustrating it.
>>198046
>>197769
Also, what exactly is the significance of this 'infinite loop' supposed to have on the scene? What kind of feeling or message are you trying to convey.
When you said, 'infinite loop', I was reminded of the scene in Fahrenheit 451 where Guy Montag is trying to read a single line from the Bible but keepsbeing distracted. That scene had some interesting use of word-by-word repition, particularly because it was intentionally written to frustrate the reader like Guy Montag was. But still, you would see that between those repeated lines, there was something different at every increment that showed that there was a passage of time: a distraction from the focus, communicating the torment of the protagonist to the reader in not being able to get past a single line in a book.
Repition can be a useful tool in creative writing, but simply writing the same crap over and over isn't helping anyone. If you want to be a better writer, try reading some examples similar to the work your trying to create, and see how other authors used their literary elements.
>>197769
Also, what exactly is the significance of this 'infinite loop' supposed to have on the scene? What kind of feeling or message are you trying to convey.
When you said, 'infinite loop', I was reminded of the scene in Fahrenheit 451 where Guy Montag is trying to read a single line from the Bible but keepsbeing distracted. That scene had some interesting use of word-by-word repition, particularly because it was intentionally written to frustrate the reader like Guy Montag was. But still, you would see that between those repeated lines, there was something different at every increment that showed that there was a passage of time: a distraction from the focus, communicating the torment of the protagonist to the reader in not being able to get past a single line in a book.
Repition can be a useful tool in creative writing, but simply writing the same crap over and over isn't helping anyone. If you want to be a better writer, try reading some examples similar to the work your trying to create, and see how other authors used their literary elements.
>>197928
>is this fic that fucking long just to take the piss out of whatever weeb card game this is
It's that long to take the piss out of the notion that length always equals quality. But it's doubly brilliant because it is also high-quality and long, except for this scene, which out-lengths every story on Wikipedia's list of long stories.
>are you mad
I don't know any more. After all, tons of crazy people think they're the only sane people in crazy worlds. But I know other sane people, so we're all probably sane. Probably.
>>197954
Nigel's the guy on 4chan's /v/ who posts "Fuck you barneyfag!" whenever someone posts a MLP pic on a board he frequents. I'm King Silverstar Thundercock Battlebrit.
>>197964
You make sense.
>>198050
Protagonist is going to be executed unless he wins a battle to prove his innocence, because the trial was also rigged. Long story.
He's a total fucking weeb (It's funny because you wouldn't consider a handsome athlete to be a total fucking weeb who weebs so hard he pisses other weebs off) so he chooses Yu-Gi-Oh to be his "Trial by combat" game.
His opponent is cheating and so#s the judge. So just as the trial to prove his innocence was rigged, this trial by combat is also rigged.
He can't win, because a bunch of bullshit rules were made up and slapped onto the Protagonist. He loses half his Life Points and deck at the end of every turn, he can't fuse or Synchro summon, and he can't pendulum summon, or special summon in any way.
If I go too far with the bullshit rules that only apply to the Protag, it doesn't become a "The death has to seem fair or people will call this bullshit". But if I don't go far enough with the rules, he'd win before this scene got a chance to happen.
Anyway, the duel "ends" with the guy Protagonist is fighting using the "Needle Token+All Out Attacks" loop to create an infinite loop, which will perpetually whittle down Protagonist's health a bit more with each loop until Protag dies and the game ends.
However, this triggered Protag's trap card. Now, whenever the Protag would lose health that turn, he'd gain an equal amount of health instead. And numbers can be infinitely high, so the loop will continue until...
Well, forever.
I want this to be a "Proof that the Protagonist is a very tough and determined man" scene, in addition to a "Proof that the Protagonist is a very smart and creative man who will overcome incredible odds to win" scene, so I'm thinking this loop will go on and on until the opponent surrenders. Or shoots himself.
The guy the protagonist is fighting is being blackmailed. If the guy loses, something bad happens to him/his family/something his family did is revealed. If the guy wins, nothing bad happens/he gets something nice.
So if the guy kills himself in the middle of the duel, he technically didn't lose the duel which means whoever was blackmailing him can't do shit to him.
This works as a bonus thing because the protagonist is pretty lucky, so that suicide could also be the first thing that makes the audience think having Protagonist Luck might not be so good after all.
Your idea of making things different with each repetition is really good, though. I think, when this happens, I'll have everyone in the arena, audience members and judges and radio announcer guys alike, and people in other rooms listening to the radio, freaking the fuck out over this in different ways.
>is this fic that fucking long just to take the piss out of whatever weeb card game this is
It's that long to take the piss out of the notion that length always equals quality. But it's doubly brilliant because it is also high-quality and long, except for this scene, which out-lengths every story on Wikipedia's list of long stories.
>are you mad
I don't know any more. After all, tons of crazy people think they're the only sane people in crazy worlds. But I know other sane people, so we're all probably sane. Probably.
>>197954
Nigel's the guy on 4chan's /v/ who posts "Fuck you barneyfag!" whenever someone posts a MLP pic on a board he frequents. I'm King Silverstar Thundercock Battlebrit.
>>197964
You make sense.
>>198050
Protagonist is going to be executed unless he wins a battle to prove his innocence, because the trial was also rigged. Long story.
He's a total fucking weeb (It's funny because you wouldn't consider a handsome athlete to be a total fucking weeb who weebs so hard he pisses other weebs off) so he chooses Yu-Gi-Oh to be his "Trial by combat" game.
His opponent is cheating and so#s the judge. So just as the trial to prove his innocence was rigged, this trial by combat is also rigged.
He can't win, because a bunch of bullshit rules were made up and slapped onto the Protagonist. He loses half his Life Points and deck at the end of every turn, he can't fuse or Synchro summon, and he can't pendulum summon, or special summon in any way.
If I go too far with the bullshit rules that only apply to the Protag, it doesn't become a "The death has to seem fair or people will call this bullshit". But if I don't go far enough with the rules, he'd win before this scene got a chance to happen.
Anyway, the duel "ends" with the guy Protagonist is fighting using the "Needle Token+All Out Attacks" loop to create an infinite loop, which will perpetually whittle down Protagonist's health a bit more with each loop until Protag dies and the game ends.
However, this triggered Protag's trap card. Now, whenever the Protag would lose health that turn, he'd gain an equal amount of health instead. And numbers can be infinitely high, so the loop will continue until...
Well, forever.
I want this to be a "Proof that the Protagonist is a very tough and determined man" scene, in addition to a "Proof that the Protagonist is a very smart and creative man who will overcome incredible odds to win" scene, so I'm thinking this loop will go on and on until the opponent surrenders. Or shoots himself.
The guy the protagonist is fighting is being blackmailed. If the guy loses, something bad happens to him/his family/something his family did is revealed. If the guy wins, nothing bad happens/he gets something nice.
So if the guy kills himself in the middle of the duel, he technically didn't lose the duel which means whoever was blackmailing him can't do shit to him.
This works as a bonus thing because the protagonist is pretty lucky, so that suicide could also be the first thing that makes the audience think having Protagonist Luck might not be so good after all.
Your idea of making things different with each repetition is really good, though. I think, when this happens, I'll have everyone in the arena, audience members and judges and radio announcer guys alike, and people in other rooms listening to the radio, freaking the fuck out over this in different ways.
>>198191
No, he is Nigel and calls others Barneyfag. Because MLP is on after Barney on American TV. A nonsensical criticism.
I am King Battlebrit, slayer of thots and libtards.
No, he is Nigel and calls others Barneyfag. Because MLP is on after Barney on American TV. A nonsensical criticism.
I am King Battlebrit, slayer of thots and libtards.
>>198168
>Nigel's the guy on 4chan's /v/ who posts "Fuck you barneyfag!
Wrong thats lee,the king of autism.
>Nigel's the guy on 4chan's /v/ who posts "Fuck you barneyfag!
Wrong thats lee,the king of autism.
>>198168
>And numbers can be infinitely high, so the loop will continue until
Don't write about stuff you don't know about.
>Wat is supertask
Infinity is indeed eternal, but infinity can be overcome with a thing caled "supertask"
A supertask is an infinite amount of actions in a finite amount of time, you could use this as a plot device if you are so desperate to shove down information on your reader's throat.
Take this as you will.
>And numbers can be infinitely high, so the loop will continue until
Don't write about stuff you don't know about.
>Wat is supertask
Infinity is indeed eternal, but infinity can be overcome with a thing caled "supertask"
A supertask is an infinite amount of actions in a finite amount of time, you could use this as a plot device if you are so desperate to shove down information on your reader's throat.
Take this as you will.
>>198196
An infinite amount of actions in a finite time, huh?
What if that infinite amount of actions includes performing the next action in the loop?
1. Cactus Fighter special summons a Needle Token on your side of the field every time it destroys one of your monsters in battle.
2. Trap card All Out Attacks means every special summoned monster must attack when summoned.
3. Needle Token attacks Cactus Fighter and loses, getting destroyed.
4. You take battle damage.
5. No you don't, you have Rainbow Life, so you gain that damage as extra LP instead. Now that that's settled and your LP has increased...
6. Cactus Fighter just destroyed Needle Token, a monster. Which means...
7. Goto 1
An infinite amount of actions in a finite time, huh?
What if that infinite amount of actions includes performing the next action in the loop?
1. Cactus Fighter special summons a Needle Token on your side of the field every time it destroys one of your monsters in battle.
2. Trap card All Out Attacks means every special summoned monster must attack when summoned.
3. Needle Token attacks Cactus Fighter and loses, getting destroyed.
4. You take battle damage.
5. No you don't, you have Rainbow Life, so you gain that damage as extra LP instead. Now that that's settled and your LP has increased...
6. Cactus Fighter just destroyed Needle Token, a monster. Which means...
7. Goto 1
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Seems like we're back to the same problem as the first few threads on these fanfics.
You don't appear to be interested in learning the core concepts and underpinnings of creative writing, nor do you appear interested in pushing onwards with your own visions for your stories. You appear more content with listlessly asking people to tell you what to do and what to write, as in >>198199 >>198168 >>197769 et cetera.
I wonder what it will take for you to finally start learning to think and write for yourself?
You don't appear to be interested in learning the core concepts and underpinnings of creative writing, nor do you appear interested in pushing onwards with your own visions for your stories. You appear more content with listlessly asking people to tell you what to do and what to write, as in >>198199 >>198168 >>197769 et cetera.
I wonder what it will take for you to finally start learning to think and write for yourself?
>>198199
You don't get it, as i said, a supertask involves doing an infinite number of tasks on a finite time.
This means that you will reach speed of light
What you'll end up with is both of your characters melting as the game accelerates beyond comprehension, as i said, you could use this as a plot device.
You don't get it, as i said, a supertask involves doing an infinite number of tasks on a finite time.
This means that you will reach speed of light
What you'll end up with is both of your characters melting as the game accelerates beyond comprehension, as i said, you could use this as a plot device.
>>198220
I'm not asking others what to write. If I was, I'd say "Hey guys, what should I write?".
I'm here for feedback. I'm going to write this anyway, I just want to know what my ponies here think of it first.
>>198221
But the speed of light is a finite speed that can be surpassed. An infinite amount of time can be theoretically reached, but a truly infinite loop creates another instance of itself to be looped with each instance.
What, am I supposed to make the dueldisks fucking explode or something, to have the game declared as a draw? Won't work, you need to win a trial by combat to be declared not guilty. ...I think. What are the real-world rules on this?
I'm not asking others what to write. If I was, I'd say "Hey guys, what should I write?".
I'm here for feedback. I'm going to write this anyway, I just want to know what my ponies here think of it first.
>>198221
But the speed of light is a finite speed that can be surpassed. An infinite amount of time can be theoretically reached, but a truly infinite loop creates another instance of itself to be looped with each instance.
What, am I supposed to make the dueldisks fucking explode or something, to have the game declared as a draw? Won't work, you need to win a trial by combat to be declared not guilty. ...I think. What are the real-world rules on this?
>>198236
> the speed of light is a finite speed that can be surpassed
Ordinary matter cannot suprass the speed of light, it is forbidden by the theory of relativity as it would require infinite energy.
You lack a lot of creativity, do you understand the implications of moving at the speed of light?
You could travel back in time
>What are the real-world rules on this?
Theory of relativity, go read about that, you might find some inspiration.
> the speed of light is a finite speed that can be surpassed
Ordinary matter cannot suprass the speed of light, it is forbidden by the theory of relativity as it would require infinite energy.
You lack a lot of creativity, do you understand the implications of moving at the speed of light?
You could travel back in time
>What are the real-world rules on this?
Theory of relativity, go read about that, you might find some inspiration.
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>>198467
I'm telling you you can travel back in time and you still talk about what happens if they end up in a draw?
Think outside the box, it's not that hard.
I'm telling you you can travel back in time and you still talk about what happens if they end up in a draw?
Think outside the box, it's not that hard.
>>198468
I already know the cool shit that could be done if you travelled back in time. Rewrite history, wipe out the blacks, jews, and mudslimes, negate feminism years ahead of schedule, turn the entire Asian world into the USA's bitch, give raspberry pis to the earliest scientists able to figure out how these tiny computers work and how to upgrade their piece of shit room sized computers, go into space, get worshipped as a god by superstitious idiots, there's a lot you can theoretically do with time travel. If multiverse theory is real, you can create timelines that exist to create time machines and put soldiers into them trained to correct timelines where niggers won. And if not, erase this gay earth and set humanity on a better course towards the stars.
I already know the cool shit that could be done if you travelled back in time. Rewrite history, wipe out the blacks, jews, and mudslimes, negate feminism years ahead of schedule, turn the entire Asian world into the USA's bitch, give raspberry pis to the earliest scientists able to figure out how these tiny computers work and how to upgrade their piece of shit room sized computers, go into space, get worshipped as a god by superstitious idiots, there's a lot you can theoretically do with time travel. If multiverse theory is real, you can create timelines that exist to create time machines and put soldiers into them trained to correct timelines where niggers won. And if not, erase this gay earth and set humanity on a better course towards the stars.
Nigel don't let these fags trick you into mainstream cuck writing. You're my fave fanfic writer on MLPOL.
>>198236
>I'm not asking others what to write. If I was, I'd say "Hey guys, what should I write?".
Which is literally what you did:
>>197769
>Should I show the loop happening three times, ten times, or 1488 times...
The better question here is: why are you even asking us at all? Shouldn't you have a good sense of this for yourself?
Have you taken a step back, looked at your work, and thought to yourself: "Why should anyone read this?" "Why wouldn't they want to read this?" "Given those reasons, what should I do to entice them to them read this?"
>>197999 (checked) is quite right in his assessment.
Hence why I asked what it will take for you to start learning and writing for yourself.
>I'm here for feedback. I'm going to write this anyway, I just want to know what my ponies here think of it first.
Nothing good so far. I have fairly high standards for stories, and I'm seeing nothing so far that I'd want to read.
Even then, I'm willing to put that aside for people willing to improve, but unfortunately you've proven quite resistant to that, asking for directions instead of advice, something that's persisted despite your newfound tolerance of criticism.
Anyone can follow directions, that's how machines have done so well. Following advice is a very different thing.
>I'm not asking others what to write. If I was, I'd say "Hey guys, what should I write?".
Which is literally what you did:
>>197769
>Should I show the loop happening three times, ten times, or 1488 times...
The better question here is: why are you even asking us at all? Shouldn't you have a good sense of this for yourself?
Have you taken a step back, looked at your work, and thought to yourself: "Why should anyone read this?" "Why wouldn't they want to read this?" "Given those reasons, what should I do to entice them to them read this?"
>>197999 (checked) is quite right in his assessment.
Hence why I asked what it will take for you to start learning and writing for yourself.
>I'm here for feedback. I'm going to write this anyway, I just want to know what my ponies here think of it first.
Nothing good so far. I have fairly high standards for stories, and I'm seeing nothing so far that I'd want to read.
Even then, I'm willing to put that aside for people willing to improve, but unfortunately you've proven quite resistant to that, asking for directions instead of advice, something that's persisted despite your newfound tolerance of criticism.
Anyone can follow directions, that's how machines have done so well. Following advice is a very different thing.
>>198497
Thanks bro! And if you want to see mainstream cuck writing, look at the FimFellatio feature box of nepotism. Generic uninspired oneshots where mediocrely written sex happens, generic uninspired oneshots in general, flavour of the month crap clearly inspired by whichever recent movies got popular, "smart" fanfics that read like a nine minute video of Niel Datass Tyson and Elizer "Old enough to pee, old enough to get damned to an eternity in AI hell unless you give all your money to me" Yudkowsky wanking each other off, godawful "Twilight Snarkle" fics where she snarks at an OOC extra stupid world when not drinking or saying she needs a drink, and fucking degenerate RGRE "I wanna be treated like a pwetty giwl all the rich guys want, but I also dun wan dat, I swear I'm not gay, I'm a cool man who says no to my big tiddy motherly bulliis with crushes on me until we fug" trash.
No ambition. No drive to push boundaries. No dignity.
Thanks bro! And if you want to see mainstream cuck writing, look at the FimFellatio feature box of nepotism. Generic uninspired oneshots where mediocrely written sex happens, generic uninspired oneshots in general, flavour of the month crap clearly inspired by whichever recent movies got popular, "smart" fanfics that read like a nine minute video of Niel Datass Tyson and Elizer "Old enough to pee, old enough to get damned to an eternity in AI hell unless you give all your money to me" Yudkowsky wanking each other off, godawful "Twilight Snarkle" fics where she snarks at an OOC extra stupid world when not drinking or saying she needs a drink, and fucking degenerate RGRE "I wanna be treated like a pwetty giwl all the rich guys want, but I also dun wan dat, I swear I'm not gay, I'm a cool man who says no to my big tiddy motherly bulliis with crushes on me until we fug" trash.
No ambition. No drive to push boundaries. No dignity.
>>198522
Wait no
I'm not seriously going to pick a number if I don't like it. I wanted people to post numbers they liked, so I could surprise them with 1666 pages. It was funny because nobody expected a number that big. I'm here for feedback on the ideas I will use. I'm not all "Guys what should I write? How should I tell my story" instead of "Guys how do I write this well? How do I tell this bit of the story better".
I'm not like one of those fanfic.net users who's all "Accepting ocs! And story ideas"
Then again, come to think of it...
What if we had a "post ideas here" thread here for others to use?
Wait no
I'm not seriously going to pick a number if I don't like it. I wanted people to post numbers they liked, so I could surprise them with 1666 pages. It was funny because nobody expected a number that big. I'm here for feedback on the ideas I will use. I'm not all "Guys what should I write? How should I tell my story" instead of "Guys how do I write this well? How do I tell this bit of the story better".
I'm not like one of those fanfic.net users who's all "Accepting ocs! And story ideas"
Then again, come to think of it...
What if we had a "post ideas here" thread here for others to use?
>>198471
But that's already expected, there's no fun in reading about a character doing all that stuff, no matter how cool it is to self-incert as the character.
You have to give the reader a reason to care for the character, you have to give him flaws, give him obstacles and sometimes even make him the underdog, that is for the kind of thing you want to write i mean.
If you just write about how cool is your character, everyone is going to hate it out of spite and go out of their way to ridicularize him.
You can write edgy, mary-sueish characters, but you have to balance the thing someway.
And that's just the basics of writing a story, we aren't even talking about hard stuff like keeping the reader interested.
But that's already expected, there's no fun in reading about a character doing all that stuff, no matter how cool it is to self-incert as the character.
You have to give the reader a reason to care for the character, you have to give him flaws, give him obstacles and sometimes even make him the underdog, that is for the kind of thing you want to write i mean.
If you just write about how cool is your character, everyone is going to hate it out of spite and go out of their way to ridicularize him.
You can write edgy, mary-sueish characters, but you have to balance the thing someway.
And that's just the basics of writing a story, we aren't even talking about hard stuff like keeping the reader interested.
I have a lot of problems with this thread. The first and major one is that I don't want this to be the beginning of a bad trend. Basically, what is happening here? You, Nigel, has discovered that your story gets more attention in a thread of its own instead of in a thread general like the writefag thread or the November writings month thread so you posted it here. And now we are back at where we started last time, it is like you secretly love vril and tries to shill cycle theory to get his attention, with two threads both about the same fanfic, your fanfic, in the catalog.
Why can this become a bad trend? Well, we have several writefags on this board and you know if having your own thread gives you more attention than being, in general, why don't we clog up the front page?
I heard some anon suggesting a board for write-fagging which was probably with good intentions but I do think that it will just have a negative effect. This is because then we would have threads for each Anon's story. Then it will be a stupid popularity competition were other writefags will sage or trying to avoid bumping each others threads since that means they would pass their own because being first is being seen. It would stop being about the writing and so on but I will return to that. But yes, I guess it is condescending and/or cynical of me to think that this is a possibility and maybe that wouldn't happen but I don't want to take the risk.
Secondly, then there really isn't enough traffic to the main board nor interest in write-fagging here to justify the creation of a new board.
Thirdly, write-fagging, I have heard, was always an integral part of /mlp/. I think it should be part of the main board.
The solution to this is to have a thread or like two different generals (I am thinking one about review of media) if one isn't enough designated for this purpose.
One could claim that I have a bias since I am the guy who posted the last two writefag threads and therefore I don't know, that I have got some masturbatory feelings whenever someone uses it. While I won't confirm or deny anything, it is important to remember that Nigel's OPs got hijacked in the end. I wasn't even the first guy to post a writefag thread on this board and I have done nothing special so I don't see it if one were to bring that up.
One could also argue that I posted the writefags competition thread while the writefag thread was/is still in the catalog. And I can admit that I was thinking in terms of attention and that it was wrong of me to do so because it takes up unnecessary space for those anons that aren't interested in write fagging. I could have simply posted the thing in the writefag thread. In my defense that thread is far down in the catalog so it shouldn't be in the way but the drawback to this is when some anon wants to discuss writing but doesn't want to participate in the competition thread that means he will have to bump the writefag thread which means we will then have two of these threads. The competition thread will however only last till the end of this weekend. It has its deadline between Friday and Saturday, I think, this week. After that we are only going to decide on a winner then I will let it die and if we ever are going to do this again we will do it in the writefag thread instead.
This was the first problem of many I have with this thread that I would like to address. I will continue this tomorrow.
Why can this become a bad trend? Well, we have several writefags on this board and you know if having your own thread gives you more attention than being, in general, why don't we clog up the front page?
I heard some anon suggesting a board for write-fagging which was probably with good intentions but I do think that it will just have a negative effect. This is because then we would have threads for each Anon's story. Then it will be a stupid popularity competition were other writefags will sage or trying to avoid bumping each others threads since that means they would pass their own because being first is being seen. It would stop being about the writing and so on but I will return to that. But yes, I guess it is condescending and/or cynical of me to think that this is a possibility and maybe that wouldn't happen but I don't want to take the risk.
Secondly, then there really isn't enough traffic to the main board nor interest in write-fagging here to justify the creation of a new board.
Thirdly, write-fagging, I have heard, was always an integral part of /mlp/. I think it should be part of the main board.
The solution to this is to have a thread or like two different generals (I am thinking one about review of media) if one isn't enough designated for this purpose.
One could claim that I have a bias since I am the guy who posted the last two writefag threads and therefore I don't know, that I have got some masturbatory feelings whenever someone uses it. While I won't confirm or deny anything, it is important to remember that Nigel's OPs got hijacked in the end. I wasn't even the first guy to post a writefag thread on this board and I have done nothing special so I don't see it if one were to bring that up.
One could also argue that I posted the writefags competition thread while the writefag thread was/is still in the catalog. And I can admit that I was thinking in terms of attention and that it was wrong of me to do so because it takes up unnecessary space for those anons that aren't interested in write fagging. I could have simply posted the thing in the writefag thread. In my defense that thread is far down in the catalog so it shouldn't be in the way but the drawback to this is when some anon wants to discuss writing but doesn't want to participate in the competition thread that means he will have to bump the writefag thread which means we will then have two of these threads. The competition thread will however only last till the end of this weekend. It has its deadline between Friday and Saturday, I think, this week. After that we are only going to decide on a winner then I will let it die and if we ever are going to do this again we will do it in the writefag thread instead.
This was the first problem of many I have with this thread that I would like to address. I will continue this tomorrow.
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>>198522
So btw Leafy-sempai would you be interested in a being one of the judges for the competition on this thread >>197973 →?
Basically, you would read each story and make an evaluation Telling the Anon what he did well and what he can improve upon. of the story and then give it a rating, a real-valued number between zero and ten. I am going to ask Glimglam if he wants to be the other judge so it will be you two if he wants to join.
So btw Leafy-sempai would you be interested in a being one of the judges for the competition on this thread >>197973 →?
Basically, you would read each story and make an evaluation Telling the Anon what he did well and what he can improve upon. of the story and then give it a rating, a real-valued number between zero and ten. I am going to ask Glimglam if he wants to be the other judge so it will be you two if he wants to join.
>>198533
Sunrise Stardust isn't a self insert. Silver had a lot of things in common with me, though with extra character flaws to make him more interesting, plus a more interesting backstory that fit better in the MLP world. But Sunrise Stardust was built from the ground up to be the best possible protagonist for a Fallout Equestria story, and anything he has in common with me is coincidental.
As for flaws, I'm working on it. one is hidden there already, one's about to be revealed, and he gets a bigger one after exposure to the wasteland. Believe me, the wasteland will change him. He isn't going to be an obnoxiously static goody four shoes.
That bit where he sees degeneracy, it makes him vomit, but it all works out in the end… I didn't want to make his hatred of degeneracy a flaw, but if I made him vomiting cause him to lose the respect of the degenerates, would he seem like a more interesting and flawed character to you?
As for how interesting he is… isn't his goal, to rebuild Equestria, interesting already?
>>198575
I like the idea of a general for improving one's writing and getting feedback. I just hope it doesn't turn into a lazy circlejerk like the fimfic thread on 4/mlp.
Sunrise Stardust isn't a self insert. Silver had a lot of things in common with me, though with extra character flaws to make him more interesting, plus a more interesting backstory that fit better in the MLP world. But Sunrise Stardust was built from the ground up to be the best possible protagonist for a Fallout Equestria story, and anything he has in common with me is coincidental.
As for flaws, I'm working on it. one is hidden there already, one's about to be revealed, and he gets a bigger one after exposure to the wasteland. Believe me, the wasteland will change him. He isn't going to be an obnoxiously static goody four shoes.
That bit where he sees degeneracy, it makes him vomit, but it all works out in the end… I didn't want to make his hatred of degeneracy a flaw, but if I made him vomiting cause him to lose the respect of the degenerates, would he seem like a more interesting and flawed character to you?
As for how interesting he is… isn't his goal, to rebuild Equestria, interesting already?
>>198575
I like the idea of a general for improving one's writing and getting feedback. I just hope it doesn't turn into a lazy circlejerk like the fimfic thread on 4/mlp.
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>>198727
Your approach is completely right.
I have literally written this 6k words doc detailing the failings of his writing in general and this thread but I just don't care anymore. I honestly thought that he had and would improve since the whole entire board help him and gave him advice. But no. He still does shit like >pic related.
I was just being gullible.
While I can still tolerate you and sometimes agree with your opinions Nigel, I have come to the understanding that you will not improve and that you are, and I will not Sugarcoat it anymore, one of the worst writers I have ever witnessed. I have also come to a conclusion upon why that is. It is because you are lazy. You think that because you write so much that is the furthest thing anyone can call you. Yet, you are the very quintessence of the wordd lazy. You just type and don't put any effort into thinking what to write and how to write it.
I won't go into why because you don't learn and there are other writefags who actually put some effort into their work but don't have an anon write a novel about their novel. I like to reserve myself to give feedback to them.
Also >>197928 >>198168 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKMMCPeiQoc
I could really not find a polite way of saying this so I hope you don't take it too harshly.
Your approach is completely right.
I have literally written this 6k words doc detailing the failings of his writing in general and this thread but I just don't care anymore. I honestly thought that he had and would improve since the whole entire board help him and gave him advice. But no. He still does shit like >pic related.
I was just being gullible.
While I can still tolerate you and sometimes agree with your opinions Nigel, I have come to the understanding that you will not improve and that you are, and I will not Sugarcoat it anymore, one of the worst writers I have ever witnessed. I have also come to a conclusion upon why that is. It is because you are lazy. You think that because you write so much that is the furthest thing anyone can call you. Yet, you are the very quintessence of the wordd lazy. You just type and don't put any effort into thinking what to write and how to write it.
I won't go into why because you don't learn and there are other writefags who actually put some effort into their work but don't have an anon write a novel about their novel. I like to reserve myself to give feedback to them.
Also >>197928 >>198168 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKMMCPeiQoc
I could really not find a polite way of saying this so I hope you don't take it too harshly.
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There is still like at least six more pic like these to go.
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>>198828
Sorry, I should have said that I respect you not "tolerate" you as a person but not your writting skills.
Sorry, I should have said that I respect you not "tolerate" you as a person but not your writting skills.
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I'm gonna level with you here, Nigel. I've been fighting a bad head cold off for a few days, and no amount of drinking has been able to get me back into my flow. So today you get a petty, snippy, and brutally honest >leaf, which is pretty much what I'm always like anyways.
>>198530
>I'm here for feedback on the ideas I will use.
No you are not. And I know you are not, because you immediately contradict yourself:
>I'm not all "Guys what should I write? How should I tell my story" instead of "Guys how do I write this well? How do I tell this bit of the story better".
The only difference between the former and latter statements is that the latter statement is far more focused in what it requests spoonfeeding for. Don't you dare tell me otherwise.
>I'm not like one of those fanfic.net users
Presented without comment.
>What if we had a "post ideas here" thread here for others to use?
Greentext prompts have long fulfilled that purpose.
>>198718
>everything about your story
You, uh... you still don't get it, do you?
No wonder >>198727 just exited stage left.
>I just hope it doesn't turn into a lazy circlejerk like the fimfic thread on 4/mlp.
There are worse fates for threads. For instance, you derailing said writing threads by flooding it with unrelated garbage. I'm not even mad, I'm actually kinda impressed with how artfully you can miss the point of even my most allegorical explanations. Kinda reminds me of someone else, actually...
I think I know exactly how to coax you into improving, but I'm in no state to play tard wrangler today. We'll see, we'll see.
Now...
>>198530
>I'm here for feedback on the ideas I will use.
No you are not. And I know you are not, because you immediately contradict yourself:
>I'm not all "Guys what should I write? How should I tell my story" instead of "Guys how do I write this well? How do I tell this bit of the story better".
The only difference between the former and latter statements is that the latter statement is far more focused in what it requests spoonfeeding for. Don't you dare tell me otherwise.
>I'm not like one of those fanfic.net users
Presented without comment.
>What if we had a "post ideas here" thread here for others to use?
Greentext prompts have long fulfilled that purpose.
>>198718
>everything about your story
You, uh... you still don't get it, do you?
No wonder >>198727 just exited stage left.
>I just hope it doesn't turn into a lazy circlejerk like the fimfic thread on 4/mlp.
There are worse fates for threads. For instance, you derailing said writing threads by flooding it with unrelated garbage. I'm not even mad, I'm actually kinda impressed with how artfully you can miss the point of even my most allegorical explanations. Kinda reminds me of someone else, actually...
I think I know exactly how to coax you into improving, but I'm in no state to play tard wrangler today. We'll see, we'll see.
Now...
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>>198575
Ahh, Svenja! Good to see you again, buddy. Before I start our not-tête-à-tête, I regret to inform you that I'm in no state to write right now. So no continuation of our prior ongoing back-and-forth, and no contest entry for me, sadly. That being said, I've no issue with signing onto the board of reviewers for your contest.
Now on with my replies!
>The first and major one is that I don't want this to be the beginning of a bad trend.
You can't control trends on imageboards, my man. Believe me, I've tried. Everything that springs up is 100% organic memery. Best to go with the flow, y'know?
>it is like you secretly love vril and tries to shill cycle theory to get his attention
You've stumbled on a correlation more on-point than you think, Sven.
>I heard some anon suggesting a board for write-fagging which was probably with good intentions but I do think that it will just have a negative effect.
>...there really isn't enough traffic to the main board nor interest in write-fagging here to justify the creation of a new board.
>write-fagging, I have heard, was always an integral part of /mlp/. I think it should be part of the main board.
Right on all three counts, my Scandinavian person of colour.
>But yes, I guess it is condescending and/or cynical of me to think that this is a possibility and maybe that wouldn't happen but I don't want to take the risk.
In practice, this never happens. Even the tightest-wound circlejerks on /mlp/ don't scrap in this fashion, beyond the typical autism. I still don't know why /nmp/ and /rgre/ scrap with each other.
>The solution to this is to have a thread or like two different generals
We'll have to digress there, I'm afraid. Organic growth of a happening aside, generals devoted to singular niches are very successful, as it is with the fillies and the /sg/ gang. Generals that encompass big swathes of subject material are, by all accounts, barren wastelands. We like to operate within limits, and if you're about everything, then you end up being about nothing. There's a reason /sp/ is a barren tundra, and why the unsuccessful generals require disproportionate amounts of bumping by one or two IPs.
The simple truth is that people's eyes glaze over when they see big, overarching subject material blasted in their face. And to be honest, with a 15 page catalog and an on-site permanent archive, there really isn't a good reason to stick to generals outside of user migration and ginormous happenings.
Single threads about singlular subjects are successful precisely because they are so lasered into the subject material, and people enjoy that little niche and the limits within it. That's how greentext prompts on /mlp/ and happening threads on /pol/ became the generals they are/were today.
I see your reasoning, but you've got the cause and effect backwards.
>One could claim that I have a bias since I am the guy who posted the last two writefag threads and therefore I don't know, that I have got some masturbatory feelings whenever someone uses it.
Is that a bad thing?
>One could also argue that I posted the writefags competition thread while the writefag thread was/is still in the catalog.
Nobody is.
>And I can admit that I was thinking in terms of attention and that it was wrong of me to do so
Stop you right there. If I hear any more of this, I'm gonna lose my fucking mind.
Everyone posts what they post because they want attention. Everyone. Every last person. It's what people do, how they operate. Whatever platitudes they may spout off about 'improving themselves', 'doing a service', 'doing it for the people', or whatever else are all secondary traits rationalized to a higher tier out of some misplaced fear of being an attention whore.
There's not a damn thing wrong with it, even on an imageboard. Only difference is that here, you've gotta work for those (You)'s, even the bad ones. Nigel's threads took serious dedication on his part to become what they were.
>>198828
Hah, even when you finally crack, you're still polite about it! You'd make a good Canadian.
>I have come to the understanding that you will not improve and that you are, and I will not Sugarcoat it anymore, one of the worst writers I have ever witnessed.
Horsho! Very good, tovarich! Let the hate flow through you, da?
>I have also come to a conclusion upon why that is. It is because you are lazy.
Tell him how it is! Tell him! Fight! Fight! Fight!
>You think that because you write so much that is the furthest thing anyone can call you. Yet, you are the very quintessence of the wordd lazy. You just type and don't put any effort into thinking what to write and how to write it.
Finish him!
>I won't go into why because you don't learn and there are other writefags who actually put some effort into their work but don't have an anon write a novel about their novel. I like to reserve myself to give feedback to them.
F A T A L I T Y
But all joking aside, you're absolutely right. Against sloth, positive reinforcement is utterly ineffective, as I myself found out in the other threads. Only negative reinforcement will coax out the change you want to see in him.
Remember: there's a reason he's posting toFimfic and fanfiction.net, and not posting stories here.
>I could really not find a polite way of saying this
Then don't. Save your politeness for folks who prove themselves deserving of it.
>so I hope you don't take it too harshly.
Eh, fuck him. Who cares? I know you're reading this, Nigel-kun. Give me a reason to care.
Ahh, Svenja! Good to see you again, buddy. Before I start our not-tête-à-tête, I regret to inform you that I'm in no state to write right now. So no continuation of our prior ongoing back-and-forth, and no contest entry for me, sadly. That being said, I've no issue with signing onto the board of reviewers for your contest.
Now on with my replies!
>The first and major one is that I don't want this to be the beginning of a bad trend.
You can't control trends on imageboards, my man. Believe me, I've tried. Everything that springs up is 100% organic memery. Best to go with the flow, y'know?
>it is like you secretly love vril and tries to shill cycle theory to get his attention
You've stumbled on a correlation more on-point than you think, Sven.
>I heard some anon suggesting a board for write-fagging which was probably with good intentions but I do think that it will just have a negative effect.
>...there really isn't enough traffic to the main board nor interest in write-fagging here to justify the creation of a new board.
>write-fagging, I have heard, was always an integral part of /mlp/. I think it should be part of the main board.
Right on all three counts, my Scandinavian person of colour.
>But yes, I guess it is condescending and/or cynical of me to think that this is a possibility and maybe that wouldn't happen but I don't want to take the risk.
In practice, this never happens. Even the tightest-wound circlejerks on /mlp/ don't scrap in this fashion, beyond the typical autism. I still don't know why /nmp/ and /rgre/ scrap with each other.
>The solution to this is to have a thread or like two different generals
We'll have to digress there, I'm afraid. Organic growth of a happening aside, generals devoted to singular niches are very successful, as it is with the fillies and the /sg/ gang. Generals that encompass big swathes of subject material are, by all accounts, barren wastelands. We like to operate within limits, and if you're about everything, then you end up being about nothing. There's a reason /sp/ is a barren tundra, and why the unsuccessful generals require disproportionate amounts of bumping by one or two IPs.
The simple truth is that people's eyes glaze over when they see big, overarching subject material blasted in their face. And to be honest, with a 15 page catalog and an on-site permanent archive, there really isn't a good reason to stick to generals outside of user migration and ginormous happenings.
Single threads about singlular subjects are successful precisely because they are so lasered into the subject material, and people enjoy that little niche and the limits within it. That's how greentext prompts on /mlp/ and happening threads on /pol/ became the generals they are/were today.
I see your reasoning, but you've got the cause and effect backwards.
>One could claim that I have a bias since I am the guy who posted the last two writefag threads and therefore I don't know, that I have got some masturbatory feelings whenever someone uses it.
Is that a bad thing?
>One could also argue that I posted the writefags competition thread while the writefag thread was/is still in the catalog.
Nobody is.
>And I can admit that I was thinking in terms of attention and that it was wrong of me to do so
Stop you right there. If I hear any more of this, I'm gonna lose my fucking mind.
Everyone posts what they post because they want attention. Everyone. Every last person. It's what people do, how they operate. Whatever platitudes they may spout off about 'improving themselves', 'doing a service', 'doing it for the people', or whatever else are all secondary traits rationalized to a higher tier out of some misplaced fear of being an attention whore.
There's not a damn thing wrong with it, even on an imageboard. Only difference is that here, you've gotta work for those (You)'s, even the bad ones. Nigel's threads took serious dedication on his part to become what they were.
>>198828
Hah, even when you finally crack, you're still polite about it! You'd make a good Canadian.
>I have come to the understanding that you will not improve and that you are, and I will not Sugarcoat it anymore, one of the worst writers I have ever witnessed.
Horsho! Very good, tovarich! Let the hate flow through you, da?
>I have also come to a conclusion upon why that is. It is because you are lazy.
Tell him how it is! Tell him! Fight! Fight! Fight!
>You think that because you write so much that is the furthest thing anyone can call you. Yet, you are the very quintessence of the wordd lazy. You just type and don't put any effort into thinking what to write and how to write it.
Finish him!
>I won't go into why because you don't learn and there are other writefags who actually put some effort into their work but don't have an anon write a novel about their novel. I like to reserve myself to give feedback to them.
F A T A L I T Y
But all joking aside, you're absolutely right. Against sloth, positive reinforcement is utterly ineffective, as I myself found out in the other threads. Only negative reinforcement will coax out the change you want to see in him.
Remember: there's a reason he's posting to
>I could really not find a polite way of saying this
Then don't. Save your politeness for folks who prove themselves deserving of it.
>so I hope you don't take it too harshly.
Eh, fuck him. Who cares? I know you're reading this, Nigel-kun. Give me a reason to care.
>>198894
>Eh, fuck him. Who cares?
Its good I have you leafy. That way I look more like the good cop in this situation. Appreciated it, man.
>Eh, fuck him. Who cares?
Its good I have you leafy. That way I look more like the good cop in this situation. Appreciated it, man.
Dead-eyed and emaciated, Twilight Sparkle trudged wearily behind her master. Her hooves were caked with the mud of many a long journey, her once lustrous mane and tail now hung thin and limp against her bony frame, her once vibrant coloration a dull sickly gray-violet. Her cutie mark had long since faded and there was now only a thin patch of discoloration on her flank to hint that one had ever been there. Each day she yearned for Death's sweet embrace, yet she knew that Death would not come. She would not enter that cold and blissful eternal sleep until her hated master lay dead and defeated, and she knew by the rules that bound her that his defeat could not come from her hand. Hoof. Horn. Whatever.
She noticed that her master had stopped walking and was now scanning the air around him attentively. The silhouette of his flabby form stood upright in that peculiar way these "human" creatures had. His ponderous bulk, wrapped in sweaty garments and capped with a strange hat that Rarity had once, in a time long ago, told her was called a "fedora", cut a misshapen and corpulent figure against the murky autumn sky.
"What is it my master?" said Twilight wearily. "Must I once again slob your malodorous and unwashed tiny shlong?"
Nigel turned to her with irritation and waved his flabby arm, motioning for her to be silent.
"Quiet, wench," he said. "I was thinking about YuGiOh cards. And yes, I will need you to do that later. Or, actually, yes. Go ahead and do that right now."
Twilight sighed heavily, but did not protest. Nigel slid down his soiled sweat pants and the squat, stubby mushroom-shaped protrusion that he laughably referred to as his member popped out. Twilight approached with resignation and open mouth. Her lips closed distastefully around the hated little protuberance. Although the length was hardly a problem, being close enough to Nigel to inhale the aroma of sweat and moldy cheese that clung to him like a miasma meant that it always required all of her concentration just to avoid gagging. She could hear him breathing heavily and babbling about YuGiOh cards as her long-misused pony mouth worked its magic, and she thanked whatever powers might exist in this decaying universe that he never lasted very long.
He rubbed his grubby paws through her mane, which she knew meant that she would be scrubbing Cheeto dust out of it for the next week and a half. She didn't even know why she bothered washing it anymore. Probably because maintaining some semblance of pride in her appearance was the last vestige of self-respect she had left.
Her horn fizzed briefly as she attempted to summon a magic hand to massage his tiny raisin balls and hopefully make him finish faster. Her magic had been on the wane lately, the last aspect of her old self to finally start to fade. It looked as if that too was now almost gone; by her own estimation she only had one spell left that she could cast before her power left her forever. Did she really want to waste it massaging Nigel's balls? The answer to that was no, no she didn't.
Aborting the hand construct, she began to focus her concentration on something more complex. She knew that she had precious little power left, but if she used it conservatively she might just be able to pull this off. She had to bet it all on a miracle.
She closed her eyes, channeled her power, and made a wish.
When she opened her eyes, Nigel had finished. With a look of disgust, she spat out his revolting seed. Glumly she stood and watched it seep slowly into the dusty ground as Nigel tugged up his sweat pants, continuing to babble about YuGiOh cards. Looks like her wish hadn't come true.
Or had it?
As she turned her attention to the road before them, she became aware of a figure on the horizon, a tall and gaunt silhouette that seemed to make the air around them grow colder as soon as it appeared. Nigel seemed aware of it too, for as he gazed upon it his jellylike mass was trembling.
"Who on earth are you?" he demanded as the figure approached.
The figure did not answer, but Twilight knew. She had seen this apparition in her books of spells long ago. She had called out his name on many a lonely night lying next to a snoring Nigel, bathed in his musky odor; in those moments of despair she had sought out the comfort of this figure's merciful touch. This was the Omega, the Terminus; Death, the end of all things.
"You know who I am, mortal," Death sneered, and Nigel's legs began to quake with terror.
"W-what do you want with me?" he cried.
"Your time has come," said Death, beckoning with his scythe.
Yes, thought Twilight. Finally. This is the end. One way or the other, soon I will be free.
She stood, grinning like a giddy school filly, watching as Nigel began to quake and stammer.
"Stop babbling," snapped Death. "The fissure awaits. You must come with me."
"W-w-wait!" cried Nigel. Death turned. "Maybe we can work something out."
Death looked amused.
"Work something out?" he mocked. "You don't 'work something out' with me, mortal. Come."
"Well," continued Nigel, stalling. "Perhaps..."
Then, suddenly, a light dawned in his eyes.
"Hold on a minute, Death! I challenge you!"
Death turned around fully.
"You challenge me? No mortal has dared to challenge me in over 9000 years!"
Twilight suddenly realized where this was going, and her spirits sank.
No, she whispered, No, it's not fair. I was so close...
Nigel smugly tipped his fedora, striking a pose against the gray sky that he probably thought made him look cool.
"I challenge you..." he said dramatically, "...to a DUEL!"
"no..." whispered Twilight hoarsely. "no, for the love of all that is holy, don't accept..."
Death, however, either did not hear her or paid her no mind. A ghostly grin spread across his bony face.
"Very well," he said, "I accept."
Nigel whipped out his YuGiOh cards.
"Then let the game...BEGIN!"
[to be continued]
She noticed that her master had stopped walking and was now scanning the air around him attentively. The silhouette of his flabby form stood upright in that peculiar way these "human" creatures had. His ponderous bulk, wrapped in sweaty garments and capped with a strange hat that Rarity had once, in a time long ago, told her was called a "fedora", cut a misshapen and corpulent figure against the murky autumn sky.
"What is it my master?" said Twilight wearily. "Must I once again slob your malodorous and unwashed tiny shlong?"
Nigel turned to her with irritation and waved his flabby arm, motioning for her to be silent.
"Quiet, wench," he said. "I was thinking about YuGiOh cards. And yes, I will need you to do that later. Or, actually, yes. Go ahead and do that right now."
Twilight sighed heavily, but did not protest. Nigel slid down his soiled sweat pants and the squat, stubby mushroom-shaped protrusion that he laughably referred to as his member popped out. Twilight approached with resignation and open mouth. Her lips closed distastefully around the hated little protuberance. Although the length was hardly a problem, being close enough to Nigel to inhale the aroma of sweat and moldy cheese that clung to him like a miasma meant that it always required all of her concentration just to avoid gagging. She could hear him breathing heavily and babbling about YuGiOh cards as her long-misused pony mouth worked its magic, and she thanked whatever powers might exist in this decaying universe that he never lasted very long.
He rubbed his grubby paws through her mane, which she knew meant that she would be scrubbing Cheeto dust out of it for the next week and a half. She didn't even know why she bothered washing it anymore. Probably because maintaining some semblance of pride in her appearance was the last vestige of self-respect she had left.
Her horn fizzed briefly as she attempted to summon a magic hand to massage his tiny raisin balls and hopefully make him finish faster. Her magic had been on the wane lately, the last aspect of her old self to finally start to fade. It looked as if that too was now almost gone; by her own estimation she only had one spell left that she could cast before her power left her forever. Did she really want to waste it massaging Nigel's balls? The answer to that was no, no she didn't.
Aborting the hand construct, she began to focus her concentration on something more complex. She knew that she had precious little power left, but if she used it conservatively she might just be able to pull this off. She had to bet it all on a miracle.
She closed her eyes, channeled her power, and made a wish.
When she opened her eyes, Nigel had finished. With a look of disgust, she spat out his revolting seed. Glumly she stood and watched it seep slowly into the dusty ground as Nigel tugged up his sweat pants, continuing to babble about YuGiOh cards. Looks like her wish hadn't come true.
Or had it?
As she turned her attention to the road before them, she became aware of a figure on the horizon, a tall and gaunt silhouette that seemed to make the air around them grow colder as soon as it appeared. Nigel seemed aware of it too, for as he gazed upon it his jellylike mass was trembling.
"Who on earth are you?" he demanded as the figure approached.
The figure did not answer, but Twilight knew. She had seen this apparition in her books of spells long ago. She had called out his name on many a lonely night lying next to a snoring Nigel, bathed in his musky odor; in those moments of despair she had sought out the comfort of this figure's merciful touch. This was the Omega, the Terminus; Death, the end of all things.
"You know who I am, mortal," Death sneered, and Nigel's legs began to quake with terror.
"W-what do you want with me?" he cried.
"Your time has come," said Death, beckoning with his scythe.
Yes, thought Twilight. Finally. This is the end. One way or the other, soon I will be free.
She stood, grinning like a giddy school filly, watching as Nigel began to quake and stammer.
"Stop babbling," snapped Death. "The fissure awaits. You must come with me."
"W-w-wait!" cried Nigel. Death turned. "Maybe we can work something out."
Death looked amused.
"Work something out?" he mocked. "You don't 'work something out' with me, mortal. Come."
"Well," continued Nigel, stalling. "Perhaps..."
Then, suddenly, a light dawned in his eyes.
"Hold on a minute, Death! I challenge you!"
Death turned around fully.
"You challenge me? No mortal has dared to challenge me in over 9000 years!"
Twilight suddenly realized where this was going, and her spirits sank.
No, she whispered, No, it's not fair. I was so close...
Nigel smugly tipped his fedora, striking a pose against the gray sky that he probably thought made him look cool.
"I challenge you..." he said dramatically, "...to a DUEL!"
"no..." whispered Twilight hoarsely. "no, for the love of all that is holy, don't accept..."
Death, however, either did not hear her or paid her no mind. A ghostly grin spread across his bony face.
"Very well," he said, "I accept."
Nigel whipped out his YuGiOh cards.
"Then let the game...BEGIN!"
[to be continued]
>>199034
[continued]
Twilight stared, bleary eyed, as the game dragged on into its fourteenth hour.
It seemed that Death had not known what it was that he had been getting himself into. For though the apparition had existed since the very genesis of life itself, and had intermittently been challenged by foolish mortals thinking they could prolong their pitiful existence through games of wits or chance, even Death had not been prepared to encounter autism of this magnitude.
"Wait a minute," said Death, staring perplexedly at the array of cards before him. "I thought this dragon thing had some kind of protection spell on it."
Nigel grinned.
"You have once again fallen into my trap. Your rock-type is susceptible to my flying-type, obviously, but what you don't realize is that despite being able to easily smite my lawn-type, I was able to sacrifice Brapenflap in order to lay the groundwork for several key attacks that took out your brick-type array that you were using for your front line. I only had to summon my Jizzmaster and cast Flooger on your Muffintop before Hebrajew came out from the rear and took your Lambtron with lightning-rod and cast Rock Lobster to summon 800 clones of itself. As you probably remember, my Groinpulle cast Semenwave on your Titpecker back on turn 46. You probably were wondering why I even did that. Well, as I'm sure you're aware, even though Titpecker has 1900 DEF, that number becomes a mere 1750 when under the influence of Spheron while the kike-pond is filled with Webelos, as I have ensured that it is by running a full-tide pool and making sure to keep my bunt-cupboard stocked."
"Wait a minute--"
"Now then, as you no doubt have realized by now, Electric-type Jizzmotrons are capable of whacking the whickity whing whong at 400 microns per antelope. With a 4x multiplier to ATK, Wombox does an extra 5 points of damage per round every time Moonbutt casts Zazzleberry to summon the Diarrhea Elves. Obviously, I have ensured that this happens every turn by casting Short People by Randy Newman on Wayne Knight in order to transform Gerard Depardieu's One-Eyed Wonder Snake into a Throbadong, but what you probably didn't consider is that Scrotor's multiplier causes Hebrajew to mutate every turn. All it took was one blast from my Spice Weasel to set off Optimus Prime's cunt modifier, so he became Galvanized, which causes your little Trilobite to herp de derp derp doo. Now, let's move on to Terrain, and why everything you've done so far is wrong."
"Look, usually people who do this just want to play chess or something--"
"UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS, your Fudge Dragon might be able to withstand a Windbreaking of magnitude 4000, which you had no doubt anticipated. However, the thing that many people don't realize is that even though Papasmurf's invisibility spell is only good for 9 parsnips, a radish is equal to twelve cucumbers when the Lettuce-Spheres are aligned. At the center of the earth resides Dumbledort, who remains dormant until Pube Missile is cast, which I had my Walt Whitman do back on turn 58. I was able to keep him in my hand until turn 61 because of Dolphin Rape, when who should appear but a little Cuban Cat named Geronimo, who amplified Pube Missile and increased Jizzmaster's ATK to 3200, and also Brianized Titpecker's Aorta. You probably thought you could counter that with the Droopydong I noticed you casually laid out behind Muffintop. However, what you failed to realize is that Droopydong's fire attack doesn't work in the Cavern of Ass-vapors!"
Nigel threw back his head and cackled triumphantly. Death clutched his head in his hands, trying to wrap his mind around the web of autism laid out before him. Twilight Sparkle continued to stare, an expression of permanent resignation glued to her already despondent face. She had seen this dance danced before. She was frankly impressed that Death had been able to hold out this long; the last time she'd seen Nigel use his legendary Hebrajew mutation strategy it had ended the game by turn 117. She assumed it probably had a lot to do with chance; Death had just drawn a lucky hand in the first round. Those Firecrotch Space-possums were pretty useless against water-types, but on a celestial field full of Moon Pies, it was quite a time to be alive, so to speak. In any event, the Space-possums were all in the Graveyard now, and Death had used his last Resurrection to revive Max Cavalera just so he could cast Nailbomb and take out Sepultura. That had put Nigel's Fudge Tunnel out of commission temporarily, but it seemed that now everything was riding on that one Probot. She wanted to keep hoping, but judging by the amount of Poison damage Nigel's Bret Michaels was inflicting, Twilight didn't think Death could hold out much longer.
Her ears perked up at the sound of Nigel's triumphant cackle.
"You just activated my trap card!"
She sighed heavily, and plopped down on the gray, dusty earth. She shut her eyes, allowing the sounds of Nigel's autistic patter to lull her to sleep as it usually did. There was no point in watching the rest of this. It was only a matter of time now.
[to be continued]
[continued]
Twilight stared, bleary eyed, as the game dragged on into its fourteenth hour.
It seemed that Death had not known what it was that he had been getting himself into. For though the apparition had existed since the very genesis of life itself, and had intermittently been challenged by foolish mortals thinking they could prolong their pitiful existence through games of wits or chance, even Death had not been prepared to encounter autism of this magnitude.
"Wait a minute," said Death, staring perplexedly at the array of cards before him. "I thought this dragon thing had some kind of protection spell on it."
Nigel grinned.
"You have once again fallen into my trap. Your rock-type is susceptible to my flying-type, obviously, but what you don't realize is that despite being able to easily smite my lawn-type, I was able to sacrifice Brapenflap in order to lay the groundwork for several key attacks that took out your brick-type array that you were using for your front line. I only had to summon my Jizzmaster and cast Flooger on your Muffintop before Hebrajew came out from the rear and took your Lambtron with lightning-rod and cast Rock Lobster to summon 800 clones of itself. As you probably remember, my Groinpulle cast Semenwave on your Titpecker back on turn 46. You probably were wondering why I even did that. Well, as I'm sure you're aware, even though Titpecker has 1900 DEF, that number becomes a mere 1750 when under the influence of Spheron while the kike-pond is filled with Webelos, as I have ensured that it is by running a full-tide pool and making sure to keep my bunt-cupboard stocked."
"Wait a minute--"
"Now then, as you no doubt have realized by now, Electric-type Jizzmotrons are capable of whacking the whickity whing whong at 400 microns per antelope. With a 4x multiplier to ATK, Wombox does an extra 5 points of damage per round every time Moonbutt casts Zazzleberry to summon the Diarrhea Elves. Obviously, I have ensured that this happens every turn by casting Short People by Randy Newman on Wayne Knight in order to transform Gerard Depardieu's One-Eyed Wonder Snake into a Throbadong, but what you probably didn't consider is that Scrotor's multiplier causes Hebrajew to mutate every turn. All it took was one blast from my Spice Weasel to set off Optimus Prime's cunt modifier, so he became Galvanized, which causes your little Trilobite to herp de derp derp doo. Now, let's move on to Terrain, and why everything you've done so far is wrong."
"Look, usually people who do this just want to play chess or something--"
"UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS, your Fudge Dragon might be able to withstand a Windbreaking of magnitude 4000, which you had no doubt anticipated. However, the thing that many people don't realize is that even though Papasmurf's invisibility spell is only good for 9 parsnips, a radish is equal to twelve cucumbers when the Lettuce-Spheres are aligned. At the center of the earth resides Dumbledort, who remains dormant until Pube Missile is cast, which I had my Walt Whitman do back on turn 58. I was able to keep him in my hand until turn 61 because of Dolphin Rape, when who should appear but a little Cuban Cat named Geronimo, who amplified Pube Missile and increased Jizzmaster's ATK to 3200, and also Brianized Titpecker's Aorta. You probably thought you could counter that with the Droopydong I noticed you casually laid out behind Muffintop. However, what you failed to realize is that Droopydong's fire attack doesn't work in the Cavern of Ass-vapors!"
Nigel threw back his head and cackled triumphantly. Death clutched his head in his hands, trying to wrap his mind around the web of autism laid out before him. Twilight Sparkle continued to stare, an expression of permanent resignation glued to her already despondent face. She had seen this dance danced before. She was frankly impressed that Death had been able to hold out this long; the last time she'd seen Nigel use his legendary Hebrajew mutation strategy it had ended the game by turn 117. She assumed it probably had a lot to do with chance; Death had just drawn a lucky hand in the first round. Those Firecrotch Space-possums were pretty useless against water-types, but on a celestial field full of Moon Pies, it was quite a time to be alive, so to speak. In any event, the Space-possums were all in the Graveyard now, and Death had used his last Resurrection to revive Max Cavalera just so he could cast Nailbomb and take out Sepultura. That had put Nigel's Fudge Tunnel out of commission temporarily, but it seemed that now everything was riding on that one Probot. She wanted to keep hoping, but judging by the amount of Poison damage Nigel's Bret Michaels was inflicting, Twilight didn't think Death could hold out much longer.
Her ears perked up at the sound of Nigel's triumphant cackle.
"You just activated my trap card!"
She sighed heavily, and plopped down on the gray, dusty earth. She shut her eyes, allowing the sounds of Nigel's autistic patter to lull her to sleep as it usually did. There was no point in watching the rest of this. It was only a matter of time now.
[to be continued]
So I guess this is happening now.
If you want to write stories where my character is a cunt, that's fine. But why act all "You are a bad guy! You're doing bad things! By asking for feedback, you're actually asking me to do it for you!" if you just want to be all "haha rock type brapnflap, Silver abuses Twilight, weeniepuss is best Pokémon"?
If you want to write stories where my character is a cunt, that's fine. But why act all "You are a bad guy! You're doing bad things! By asking for feedback, you're actually asking me to do it for you!" if you just want to be all "haha rock type brapnflap, Silver abuses Twilight, weeniepuss is best Pokémon"?
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>>199294
Lol, someone who hasn't even posted anything on this thread yet posts a story that, let's say does what you describe it as, and that means we others were just acting before.
>>199210
>"Quiet, wench," he said. "I was thinking about YuGiOh cards.
While I think the sexual things aren't that funny in this particular situation (more on that later), I really like this line and when you emphasize this character's autism. Since he is a parody of Nigel its suppose to exaggerate his character traits but it almost fair to claim that it pretty accurate on the autism that is. I mean he does evidently randomly start ranting about the inner workings of pokemon out of nowhere in his fics.
>>199294
Anyway, just some advice on your way. Like, don't you realize that if your story is more than a million words anyone who even remotely glance at it will immediately look for another title? Do you not understand how jarringly out of place Yugihio is in this setting and how stupid it is that a Pony is a weeb? Do you not understand that the answer to the question: "How many time loops should I have?" is arbitrary and meaningless to the effect you claim that you want to have on the story? I can literally write what you need 6 million words to convey in one sentence and even more: Then the time-loop repeated itself a billion of times before the other guy resigned. There is seriously more but many of these questions can even be expanded upon.
>>198894 >>199034
So I will get back to you because I got things to tell you when I got the time.
Lol, someone who hasn't even posted anything on this thread yet posts a story that, let's say does what you describe it as, and that means we others were just acting before.
>>199210
>"Quiet, wench," he said. "I was thinking about YuGiOh cards.
While I think the sexual things aren't that funny in this particular situation (more on that later), I really like this line and when you emphasize this character's autism. Since he is a parody of Nigel its suppose to exaggerate his character traits but it almost fair to claim that it pretty accurate on the autism that is. I mean he does evidently randomly start ranting about the inner workings of pokemon out of nowhere in his fics.
>>199294
Anyway, just some advice on your way. Like, don't you realize that if your story is more than a million words anyone who even remotely glance at it will immediately look for another title? Do you not understand how jarringly out of place Yugihio is in this setting and how stupid it is that a Pony is a weeb? Do you not understand that the answer to the question: "How many time loops should I have?" is arbitrary and meaningless to the effect you claim that you want to have on the story? I can literally write what you need 6 million words to convey in one sentence and even more: Then the time-loop repeated itself a billion of times before the other guy resigned. There is seriously more but many of these questions can even be expanded upon.
>>198894 >>199034
So I will get back to you because I got things to tell you when I got the time.
>>199210
[continued]
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
The meaningless phrase repeated itself in Twilight's mind over and over, gradually pulling her out of her dull and dreamless sleep. She groggily opened her eyes to see that the sky was slowly fading into dusk. How long had she been asleep?
Not far away from where she slept, Death and Nigel still sat on the hilltop, playing their game. Twilight was frankly astounded; only Death itself could have held out this long against Nigel's autistic knowledge of YuGiOh, or Pokemon, or whatever it is they are playing exactly.
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
Nigel kept repeating that phrase over and over as he laid down card after card.
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
Death just sat there, staring vacantly at the cards. Twilight groaned. She realized that somewhere, deep inside the dark depths of her soul, she had still clung to some kind of hope that even Nigel would not be able to win a game against an opponent like this, but as she watched him lay out his cards, that hope was extinguished. He had done it; Nigel's autism had officially transcended Death itself. She now knew that there could be no escape for her; human and pony alike would tremble and fall before this madman. No mare or filly or colt would ever be safe from the clutches of his grubby, Cheeto-stained paws. This was truly the end of all things.
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
Nigel put down his last +900 modified Hebrajew and cast Peenstorm. The resulting barrage of goat semen obliterated Death's defenses and reduced his Level 400 Weenwhacker to a smoldering mess of burnt flesh. It was over. Nigel had won.
He leaned back with a self-satisfied expression on his flabby jowls that made Twilight want to charge him with all her might, gore him through the eyeball with her horn if she could do nothing else, but she realized that she did not possess the strength to do even this. Her magic was gone. Her strength was gone. Her hope was gone. There was nothing else left that she could do, except submit. She plopped back down on the dusty ground to watch the last scene of this ghastly spectacle unfold.
And yet, despite being completely and utterly defeated at YuGiOh or Pokemon or whatever, Death did not seem perturbed. On the contrary; he leaned back and looked Nigel right in the eye, and for the first time in forever it seemed that Nigel's smug facade dropped just a little. Twilight lifted her head and her ears perked up. It was faint, but she was sure she detected a disturbance in the air, a slight crackle as something not of the natural order of this world began to manifest itself and gather energy. Could this be...no, it couldn't. But wait....yes! There was no mistake about it, this was Unicorn magic.
"I have beaten you fair and square," said Nigel. Twilight wasn't certain, but it felt like there was a slight note of panic behind the confidence in his voice. "Are you not man enough to concede defeat?"
Death grinned broadly, and the air around him began to shimmer.
"You may think that, but..."
Twilight was now on her hooves as the air surrounding Death began to warp and twist. The unmistakable aura of Equestrian magic, which she had not even believed could manifest itself in this world, could be felt all around her now. She stared as Death's form shimmered like a desert mirage, and slowly the apparition vanished into mist.
A new entity stood in his place. A Unicorn, like her. Her bright and vibrant light pink coat shimmered in the dusky light, her toothpaste-colored mane sparkled and shone as she tossed her head. Her cutie mark glowed faintly like the evening's first glimmer of starlight.
"...you were just too damn cocky, kid!"
Twilight's eyes widened. For a moment, she couldn't believe her eyes, but it was true. Against all odds, her very best friend in the whole wide world, undisputed Best Pony and Princess of All Equestria and the Lands Beyond stood before her, in the flesh. Starlight Glimmer had returned!
[cue music related, also some nice wind effects, maybe some strobelights or something]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12_WnaPmPI0
Nigel's eyes widened in horror.
"No! No, it can't be, I banished you from this universe!" he cried.
Glimmer smirked and booped herself.
"Oh, sweetie," she said. "You should have realized: no matter how far you run, no matter what universe you flee to, the fundamental truth of life remains the same: YOU CAN'T SHIM SHAM THE GLIM GLAM."
Nigel sprang to his feet, surprisingly agile for a man of his bulk, and tried to sprint off down the hill, but it was to no avail. Glimmer's horn flared with mighty Best Pony power that seized him and deposited him on the ground in front of her.
"I believe you know what happens next," she said, as she stood on her hind legs. Magic forced open Nigel's jaw, even as his eyes widened in terror as he realized all too late the trap he had fallen into. There was a burst of magic as Glimmer's genitalia transformed and expanded into a mighty Glimdong of impressive length and girth. She stood poised in front of him, danging the mighty member before his terrified eyes, until she pulled back her hips. Then, with a single thrust of her powerful pelvis, she forced the entire length down Nigel's throat until her massive Glimballs slapped against his chin with a great boom that threatened to rip the very heavens asunder.
"Pow, right in the kisser!" she cried.
[continued]
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
The meaningless phrase repeated itself in Twilight's mind over and over, gradually pulling her out of her dull and dreamless sleep. She groggily opened her eyes to see that the sky was slowly fading into dusk. How long had she been asleep?
Not far away from where she slept, Death and Nigel still sat on the hilltop, playing their game. Twilight was frankly astounded; only Death itself could have held out this long against Nigel's autistic knowledge of YuGiOh, or Pokemon, or whatever it is they are playing exactly.
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
Nigel kept repeating that phrase over and over as he laid down card after card.
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
Death just sat there, staring vacantly at the cards. Twilight groaned. She realized that somewhere, deep inside the dark depths of her soul, she had still clung to some kind of hope that even Nigel would not be able to win a game against an opponent like this, but as she watched him lay out his cards, that hope was extinguished. He had done it; Nigel's autism had officially transcended Death itself. She now knew that there could be no escape for her; human and pony alike would tremble and fall before this madman. No mare or filly or colt would ever be safe from the clutches of his grubby, Cheeto-stained paws. This was truly the end of all things.
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
Nigel put down his last +900 modified Hebrajew and cast Peenstorm. The resulting barrage of goat semen obliterated Death's defenses and reduced his Level 400 Weenwhacker to a smoldering mess of burnt flesh. It was over. Nigel had won.
He leaned back with a self-satisfied expression on his flabby jowls that made Twilight want to charge him with all her might, gore him through the eyeball with her horn if she could do nothing else, but she realized that she did not possess the strength to do even this. Her magic was gone. Her strength was gone. Her hope was gone. There was nothing else left that she could do, except submit. She plopped back down on the dusty ground to watch the last scene of this ghastly spectacle unfold.
And yet, despite being completely and utterly defeated at YuGiOh or Pokemon or whatever, Death did not seem perturbed. On the contrary; he leaned back and looked Nigel right in the eye, and for the first time in forever it seemed that Nigel's smug facade dropped just a little. Twilight lifted her head and her ears perked up. It was faint, but she was sure she detected a disturbance in the air, a slight crackle as something not of the natural order of this world began to manifest itself and gather energy. Could this be...no, it couldn't. But wait....yes! There was no mistake about it, this was Unicorn magic.
"I have beaten you fair and square," said Nigel. Twilight wasn't certain, but it felt like there was a slight note of panic behind the confidence in his voice. "Are you not man enough to concede defeat?"
Death grinned broadly, and the air around him began to shimmer.
"You may think that, but..."
Twilight was now on her hooves as the air surrounding Death began to warp and twist. The unmistakable aura of Equestrian magic, which she had not even believed could manifest itself in this world, could be felt all around her now. She stared as Death's form shimmered like a desert mirage, and slowly the apparition vanished into mist.
A new entity stood in his place. A Unicorn, like her. Her bright and vibrant light pink coat shimmered in the dusky light, her toothpaste-colored mane sparkled and shone as she tossed her head. Her cutie mark glowed faintly like the evening's first glimmer of starlight.
"...you were just too damn cocky, kid!"
Twilight's eyes widened. For a moment, she couldn't believe her eyes, but it was true. Against all odds, her very best friend in the whole wide world, undisputed Best Pony and Princess of All Equestria and the Lands Beyond stood before her, in the flesh. Starlight Glimmer had returned!
[cue music related, also some nice wind effects, maybe some strobelights or something]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12_WnaPmPI0
Nigel's eyes widened in horror.
"No! No, it can't be, I banished you from this universe!" he cried.
Glimmer smirked and booped herself.
"Oh, sweetie," she said. "You should have realized: no matter how far you run, no matter what universe you flee to, the fundamental truth of life remains the same: YOU CAN'T SHIM SHAM THE GLIM GLAM."
Nigel sprang to his feet, surprisingly agile for a man of his bulk, and tried to sprint off down the hill, but it was to no avail. Glimmer's horn flared with mighty Best Pony power that seized him and deposited him on the ground in front of her.
"I believe you know what happens next," she said, as she stood on her hind legs. Magic forced open Nigel's jaw, even as his eyes widened in terror as he realized all too late the trap he had fallen into. There was a burst of magic as Glimmer's genitalia transformed and expanded into a mighty Glimdong of impressive length and girth. She stood poised in front of him, danging the mighty member before his terrified eyes, until she pulled back her hips. Then, with a single thrust of her powerful pelvis, she forced the entire length down Nigel's throat until her massive Glimballs slapped against his chin with a great boom that threatened to rip the very heavens asunder.
"Pow, right in the kisser!" she cried.
>>199388
[continued]
"Pow, right in the kisser."
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The loop went on 1488 times and then cycled back to begin again, over and over. As Starlight Glimmer pounded Nigel's yeasty esophagus, the sun rose and set, rose and set, rose and set. Autumn faded into winter, winter into spring, spring into summer, summer into autumn. An entire year passed as Twilight stood, watching in transfixed awe as Glimmer's massive balls continued to rhythmically slap against Nigel's chin. She felt no desire to eat or drink; simply being in the presence of Glimmer's mighty Glimdong was sustenance enough for them all.
"Pow, right in the kisser."
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Finally, with a last powerful thrust, Glimmer concluded her business. There was a faint gurgling sound as her seed worked its way down Nigel's gullet, and then she pulled out with a loud slurp. Her genitalia returned to normal, and she dropped back down onto all fours. Nigel lay on the ground as he had for a year, his glassy and vacant eyes continuing to stare off at nothing.
"You are now carrying my child," Glimmer informed him. "It is the mystery of the dance."
Nigel groaned faintly but gave no other response. Paying him no more heed than she would a dead camel, Glimmer turned her attention to Twilight.
"Hey there, Twilight."
"Wow, Glimmer!" cried Twilight, "Great moves! Keep it up, proud of you."
"Thanks. Shall we get going?"
"Sure."
They began to trot off amiably down the dusty road together. Already Twilight could feel her magic returning. Her flank glowed softly as her cutie mark began to reappear; her coat, mane and tail were regaining their former luster with every step she took.
"So, what's been going on in Equestria since I left?" asked Twilight.
"Oh, you know, this and that," said Glimmer. "Oh by the way, it's called Glimmernigeria now. I'm the Princess of it."
"Wow! What a fantastic name! I can't wait to get back and see what you've done with the place!"
They continued chattering pleasantly as they disappeared over the horizon. Above them, a vast canopy of stars began to twinkle as night spread its dark shroud over the dusty landscape.
Meanwhile, on the hilltop, Nigel groaned. He tried to get up, but found that he could barely move his limbs. All he could do was lie there, pathetically pawing at the ground like a beached sea lion.
Suddenly, a dark silhouette blotted out the starlight above him. He looked up to see a familiar face staring down at him, her expression a blend of confusion and pity.
"Woah, what happened to you?" asked Sunset Shimmer.
Nigel could only gurgle in response, a thin ribbon of spooge dripping down the side of his chin.
Naruto and the protagonist from Pokemon, whatever his name is, Ash Ketchup or whatever the fuck, appeared on either side of Shimmer.
"Holy shit." said Naruto. "What is this thing?"
Ash Ketchup poked his blubberous form with a toe.
"No idea," he said. "I think it's a dead seal. Anyway, let's go. We're missing the totally awesome Pokemon tournament happening just down the road."
The three of them disappeared. Nigel tried to call out, but could only make garbled noises in the back of his throat as more semen bubbled out of his mouth. Suddenly, another silhouette appeared. He looked up to see YuGiOh standing over him, glaring downward with contemptuous scorn.
"Are you Nigel?"
Nigel nodded weakly.
"The Nigel? King Silverstar Thundercock, slayer of thots and libtards?"
Nigel nodded again, more forcefully this time, although he could still barely move his neck. A thick glob of spooge bubbled out of his mouth and landed in the dust with a soft plop. YuGiOh narrowed his eyes in disgust.
"Wow. Unbelievable. Un-FUCKING-believable. I journeyed over 9000 miles to match wits with the one and only Nigel, the undisputed master of the YuGiOh card game. However, at the end of my journey, I find only this pathetic faggot."
He spat. A glob of saliva hit Nigel in the face and dribbled down, mixing itself into the semen beard on his chin.
"You suck, Nigel." said YuGiOh, and walked away.
[FIN.]
[continued]
"Pow, right in the kisser."
"Pow, right in the kisser."
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The loop went on 1488 times and then cycled back to begin again, over and over. As Starlight Glimmer pounded Nigel's yeasty esophagus, the sun rose and set, rose and set, rose and set. Autumn faded into winter, winter into spring, spring into summer, summer into autumn. An entire year passed as Twilight stood, watching in transfixed awe as Glimmer's massive balls continued to rhythmically slap against Nigel's chin. She felt no desire to eat or drink; simply being in the presence of Glimmer's mighty Glimdong was sustenance enough for them all.
"Pow, right in the kisser."
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"Pow, right in the kisser."
Finally, with a last powerful thrust, Glimmer concluded her business. There was a faint gurgling sound as her seed worked its way down Nigel's gullet, and then she pulled out with a loud slurp. Her genitalia returned to normal, and she dropped back down onto all fours. Nigel lay on the ground as he had for a year, his glassy and vacant eyes continuing to stare off at nothing.
"You are now carrying my child," Glimmer informed him. "It is the mystery of the dance."
Nigel groaned faintly but gave no other response. Paying him no more heed than she would a dead camel, Glimmer turned her attention to Twilight.
"Hey there, Twilight."
"Wow, Glimmer!" cried Twilight, "Great moves! Keep it up, proud of you."
"Thanks. Shall we get going?"
"Sure."
They began to trot off amiably down the dusty road together. Already Twilight could feel her magic returning. Her flank glowed softly as her cutie mark began to reappear; her coat, mane and tail were regaining their former luster with every step she took.
"So, what's been going on in Equestria since I left?" asked Twilight.
"Oh, you know, this and that," said Glimmer. "Oh by the way, it's called Glimmernigeria now. I'm the Princess of it."
"Wow! What a fantastic name! I can't wait to get back and see what you've done with the place!"
They continued chattering pleasantly as they disappeared over the horizon. Above them, a vast canopy of stars began to twinkle as night spread its dark shroud over the dusty landscape.
Meanwhile, on the hilltop, Nigel groaned. He tried to get up, but found that he could barely move his limbs. All he could do was lie there, pathetically pawing at the ground like a beached sea lion.
Suddenly, a dark silhouette blotted out the starlight above him. He looked up to see a familiar face staring down at him, her expression a blend of confusion and pity.
"Woah, what happened to you?" asked Sunset Shimmer.
Nigel could only gurgle in response, a thin ribbon of spooge dripping down the side of his chin.
Naruto and the protagonist from Pokemon, whatever his name is, Ash Ketchup or whatever the fuck, appeared on either side of Shimmer.
"Holy shit." said Naruto. "What is this thing?"
Ash Ketchup poked his blubberous form with a toe.
"No idea," he said. "I think it's a dead seal. Anyway, let's go. We're missing the totally awesome Pokemon tournament happening just down the road."
The three of them disappeared. Nigel tried to call out, but could only make garbled noises in the back of his throat as more semen bubbled out of his mouth. Suddenly, another silhouette appeared. He looked up to see YuGiOh standing over him, glaring downward with contemptuous scorn.
"Are you Nigel?"
Nigel nodded weakly.
"The Nigel? King Silverstar Thundercock, slayer of thots and libtards?"
Nigel nodded again, more forcefully this time, although he could still barely move his neck. A thick glob of spooge bubbled out of his mouth and landed in the dust with a soft plop. YuGiOh narrowed his eyes in disgust.
"Wow. Unbelievable. Un-FUCKING-believable. I journeyed over 9000 miles to match wits with the one and only Nigel, the undisputed master of the YuGiOh card game. However, at the end of my journey, I find only this pathetic faggot."
He spat. A glob of saliva hit Nigel in the face and dribbled down, mixing itself into the semen beard on his chin.
"You suck, Nigel." said YuGiOh, and walked away.
[FIN.]
>>199388
Hey neat, you did the "Ironic Echo" thing. That is my favourite tvtrope.
Btw if you're going to gain an obsession with me and my characters, could you mock me/him for things that he/I actually do/does? Instead of just turning my character into le generic cheetos dust dude.
I didn't eat crisps/chips/any of that kind of fake food shit until I was a man, and at that point, the taste of cheetos and every other kind of crisps I tried was sickening.
Hey neat, you did the "Ironic Echo" thing. That is my favourite tvtrope.
Btw if you're going to gain an obsession with me and my characters, could you mock me/him for things that he/I actually do/does? Instead of just turning my character into le generic cheetos dust dude.
I didn't eat crisps/chips/any of that kind of fake food shit until I was a man, and at that point, the taste of cheetos and every other kind of crisps I tried was sickening.
>>199398
>if you're going to gain an obsession with me and my characters, could you mock me/him for things that he/I actually do/does?
He spends most of the story playing YuGiOh and getting facefucked, what exactly did I forget? Sorry, I was trying to create as accurate an homage as I could, but my skill as a writer might not quite be on your level yet.
>if you're going to gain an obsession with me and my characters, could you mock me/him for things that he/I actually do/does?
He spends most of the story playing YuGiOh and getting facefucked, what exactly did I forget? Sorry, I was trying to create as accurate an homage as I could, but my skill as a writer might not quite be on your level yet.
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>>199399
Don't be coy. He also spent a minimal amount of time lording over Twilight cuz reasons that can't be questioned (nor rationally attributed). He also rants about a bunch of ridiculous (and I mean, that was seriously/easily the most impressive shit-pasta I have ever seen) game stats that make as much sense (which is none) whether you understand the Yu-Gi-Oh/Magic/Jihad It was a vampire card game, ya damn youngfags or don't. He also gets BTFO by best pony. Am I forgetting anything? So saying,
>pic related
Don't be coy. He also spent a minimal amount of time lording over Twilight cuz reasons that can't be questioned (nor rationally attributed). He also rants about a bunch of ridiculous (and I mean, that was seriously/easily the most impressive shit-pasta I have ever seen) game stats that make as much sense (which is none) whether you understand the Yu-Gi-Oh/Magic/Jihad It was a vampire card game, ya damn youngfags or don't. He also gets BTFO by best pony. Am I forgetting anything? So saying,
>pic related
>>199401
Guess this is as good a time as any to say something I've been thinking of about Glimmer.
Remember that scene in Fullmetal Alchemist where, spoiler alert, Ed breaks Greed's shield?
He does it by being smart and using an ability we already know he has while figuring out what his foe's shield is made of.
That was cool, and that felt earned.
He doesn't just get smacked around until he pulls Neo Alchemy out of his ass, developing an anti-alchemy technique that creates a rapidly expanding "No alchemy allowed by anyone except me" zone.
And those JoJo's Bizarre Adventure scenes with stands.
Jotaro pulling Star Finger out of nowhere is stupid. Jotaro using Star Finger to launch a button into the monkey's skull is pretty cool. Jotaro pulling time stop out of nowhere is lame, but Jotaro putting magnets on himself and Dio to make Dio think Jotaro can move in stopped time is epic. Jotaro clapping his hands to stop a sword is pretty cool, Jotaro ora rushing through some diamond hard teeth is cool, and Jotaro bluffing Telence Darby is one of the coolest things he ever does.
Meanwhile...
Remember those scenes in the Pokémon anime where Ash does something cool and smart, solving a problem that's presented to him by his opponent?
That's cool, and it feels a hell of a lot more earned than cheaty bullshit like that "Thunder Armour" shit he pulled.
And Naruto.
Sasuke pulling that trick with his emo poetry was a lot cooler than The Great Snake Escape, which was a load of bullshit.
Even though that snake escape feat was "More Impressive" because it required more chakra (magic) and was pulled off when Sasuke supposedly had no chakra left, Sasuke's poetry trick back in the Chunin exams was just cooler.
Glimmer's feats... They're further to the Great Snake Escape end of the spectrum.
When Starlight Glimmer "Totally BTFOs" Twilight, or Discord, or anyone else, it just doesn't feel earned. She doesn't use a limited selection of spells in a creative way, because she isn't limited in any way.
She has an unlimited list of spells she can cast using her infinite stats, and nobody, not even Discord, can stop her from using them. Only the plot chair in the babby's first dnd episode was able to challenge her.
When Glimmer flew around and lasered at Twilight and eventually hits Rainbow Dash, it didn't feel earned. When Glimmer instantly cast a spell that banished Discord "temporarily" because the execs told Jim he couldn't have Glimmer permanently kill Discord off, it didn't feel earned.
Nothing about Glimmer feels earned. She just flies in and instantly solves the problem using magic if the writers let her, and her "Flaws" like being "too magical" and "relies on magic too much" never come up properly.
Glimmer could overpower Discord and Twilight, Celestia and Luna, and every other character in the show at the same time, and it still wouldn't be impressive. Not really. It would be bullshit. Sure, her fans would cream their jeans over it, but everyone else still watching would just throw their hands into the air and go "Well, that happened! I guess that's just a thing she can do now, apparently! Looks like she's this strong now. Yare yare..."
Glimmer's feats don't feel impressive, and this character doesn't feel impressive.
Remember the Winter Wrap-Up episode? Look at Twilight struggling to put on some horse clothes without her magic. It feels like a victory when she gets those clothes on. A small one, yes. But the (post)modern writers will never give Glimmer a scene like that before the show collapses under the weight of its poochies and becomes a black hole from which no light can escape, creating blackjack.
Guess this is as good a time as any to say something I've been thinking of about Glimmer.
Remember that scene in Fullmetal Alchemist where, spoiler alert, Ed breaks Greed's shield?
He does it by being smart and using an ability we already know he has while figuring out what his foe's shield is made of.
That was cool, and that felt earned.
He doesn't just get smacked around until he pulls Neo Alchemy out of his ass, developing an anti-alchemy technique that creates a rapidly expanding "No alchemy allowed by anyone except me" zone.
And those JoJo's Bizarre Adventure scenes with stands.
Jotaro pulling Star Finger out of nowhere is stupid. Jotaro using Star Finger to launch a button into the monkey's skull is pretty cool. Jotaro pulling time stop out of nowhere is lame, but Jotaro putting magnets on himself and Dio to make Dio think Jotaro can move in stopped time is epic. Jotaro clapping his hands to stop a sword is pretty cool, Jotaro ora rushing through some diamond hard teeth is cool, and Jotaro bluffing Telence Darby is one of the coolest things he ever does.
Meanwhile...
Remember those scenes in the Pokémon anime where Ash does something cool and smart, solving a problem that's presented to him by his opponent?
That's cool, and it feels a hell of a lot more earned than cheaty bullshit like that "Thunder Armour" shit he pulled.
And Naruto.
Sasuke pulling that trick with his emo poetry was a lot cooler than The Great Snake Escape, which was a load of bullshit.
Even though that snake escape feat was "More Impressive" because it required more chakra (magic) and was pulled off when Sasuke supposedly had no chakra left, Sasuke's poetry trick back in the Chunin exams was just cooler.
Glimmer's feats... They're further to the Great Snake Escape end of the spectrum.
When Starlight Glimmer "Totally BTFOs" Twilight, or Discord, or anyone else, it just doesn't feel earned. She doesn't use a limited selection of spells in a creative way, because she isn't limited in any way.
She has an unlimited list of spells she can cast using her infinite stats, and nobody, not even Discord, can stop her from using them. Only the plot chair in the babby's first dnd episode was able to challenge her.
When Glimmer flew around and lasered at Twilight and eventually hits Rainbow Dash, it didn't feel earned. When Glimmer instantly cast a spell that banished Discord "temporarily" because the execs told Jim he couldn't have Glimmer permanently kill Discord off, it didn't feel earned.
Nothing about Glimmer feels earned. She just flies in and instantly solves the problem using magic if the writers let her, and her "Flaws" like being "too magical" and "relies on magic too much" never come up properly.
Glimmer could overpower Discord and Twilight, Celestia and Luna, and every other character in the show at the same time, and it still wouldn't be impressive. Not really. It would be bullshit. Sure, her fans would cream their jeans over it, but everyone else still watching would just throw their hands into the air and go "Well, that happened! I guess that's just a thing she can do now, apparently! Looks like she's this strong now. Yare yare..."
Glimmer's feats don't feel impressive, and this character doesn't feel impressive.
Remember the Winter Wrap-Up episode? Look at Twilight struggling to put on some horse clothes without her magic. It feels like a victory when she gets those clothes on. A small one, yes. But the (post)modern writers will never give Glimmer a scene like that before the show collapses under the weight of its poochies and becomes a black hole from which no light can escape, creating blackjack.
>>199413
>Glimmer's feats aren't impressive
Says the guy who spent an entire year getting his throat fucked by her mighty Glimdong.
>Glimmer's feats aren't impressive
Says the guy who spent an entire year getting his throat fucked by her mighty Glimdong.
>>199419
I guess so, if you aren't going to provide a counterargument.
Someone worfing Beerus is neat because we understand, on some level, how his power works. He has a fuckton of Divine Ki, which is better than regular Ki.
If Future Trunks shows up yet again and wipes the floor with Beerus, it's epic.
Discord? He's some kind of magical trickster god fuelled by chaos. He can only be beaten by the Elements of Harmony or Fluttershy's ass.
If your OC tries to laser beam Discord out of existence and he responds by taking it and disappearing, instead of putting tanning sunglasses on, then taking it and turning out fine yet slightly tanned, or by lifting up some marshmallows on a stick and no-selling the attack, then eating the smores, or taking it, then disappearing, then reappearing and doing a bunch of overdramatic fake deaths and then saying "Just kidding!" that isn't Discord your OC is lasering.
>>199425
It would be funnier if you said a thousand years. Then it would be a Naruto reference.
I guess so, if you aren't going to provide a counterargument.
Someone worfing Beerus is neat because we understand, on some level, how his power works. He has a fuckton of Divine Ki, which is better than regular Ki.
If Future Trunks shows up yet again and wipes the floor with Beerus, it's epic.
Discord? He's some kind of magical trickster god fuelled by chaos. He can only be beaten by the Elements of Harmony or Fluttershy's ass.
If your OC tries to laser beam Discord out of existence and he responds by taking it and disappearing, instead of putting tanning sunglasses on, then taking it and turning out fine yet slightly tanned, or by lifting up some marshmallows on a stick and no-selling the attack, then eating the smores, or taking it, then disappearing, then reappearing and doing a bunch of overdramatic fake deaths and then saying "Just kidding!" that isn't Discord your OC is lasering.
>>199425
It would be funnier if you said a thousand years. Then it would be a Naruto reference.
>>199432
Why argue the point? "Cool and earned" or "it doesn't feel earned" are opinions and I have a different one; its subjective. Moreover its plainly obvious how receptive to differing opinions you are, especially when it comes to babby's first cartoons.
Why argue the point? "Cool and earned" or "it doesn't feel earned" are opinions and I have a different one; its subjective. Moreover its plainly obvious how receptive to differing opinions you are, especially when it comes to babby's first cartoons.
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>>199432
>It would be funnier if you said a thousand years
Greedy boy, one year is not enough, you the mighty ding dong for thousands of years?
>It would be funnier if you said a thousand years
Greedy boy, one year is not enough, you the mighty ding dong for thousands of years?
>>199465
>not appreciating that judgements based on a personal preference, set of opinions, or overall reception to aesthetics in writing, media, or production amounts to saying "Coke is better cuz I like it"
>deliberately (or worse, obliviously) misinterpreting the meaning behind 'Babby's first'
Nigel, your knowledge of chanology is showing
>inb4 he tries to pretend that 'Nigel' is Barneyfag again
You were doing so well. What were your relapse triggers? What behaviors and actions can you take to avoid being a massive faggot in the future, and how do you plan to integrate and self-enforce those actions going forward?
Shall I yank your NEET-bux? ^_~
>not appreciating that judgements based on a personal preference, set of opinions, or overall reception to aesthetics in writing, media, or production amounts to saying "Coke is better cuz I like it"
>deliberately (or worse, obliviously) misinterpreting the meaning behind 'Babby's first'
Nigel, your knowledge of chanology is showing
>inb4 he tries to pretend that 'Nigel' is Barneyfag again
You were doing so well. What were your relapse triggers? What behaviors and actions can you take to avoid being a massive faggot in the future, and how do you plan to integrate and self-enforce those actions going forward?
Shall I yank your NEET-bux? ^_~
>>199548
What is Chanology?
I personally believe judgements and opinions are worthless unless backed up by some sort of logic or reason. "Toxapex is shit because he's op and he's op because Water-Poison is only weak to 3 types that have immune switch-ins" is valid, "Toxapex is shit because he is" doesn't really seem valid to me.
What is Chanology?
I personally believe judgements and opinions are worthless unless backed up by some sort of logic or reason. "Toxapex is shit because he's op and he's op because Water-Poison is only weak to 3 types that have immune switch-ins" is valid, "Toxapex is shit because he is" doesn't really seem valid to me.
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>>199572
IKR?
>>199569
And your beliefs are irrelevant in that they are personal, subjective, and biased. I'm not interested in arguing biases, its an exercise in futility. You will no more convince me that my biases are incorrect and yours are, as I would inversely.
As far as babbys first, there you go sperging about Pokemon again, in a manner that is wholly unironic and not enticing in the least. You obviously have your pet animes as you keep inserting unnecessary elements of them into your stories. Alright, let me put it simply:
>Toxapex is shit because he is
Not what I said
>"Toxapex is shit because he's op and he's op because Water-Poison is only weak to 3 types that have immune switch-ins"
What you said (essentially)
>I disagree
What I said. I didn't say that just saying it that way effectively illustrates the point, I deliberately said I wasn't going to argue (read: effectively illustrate) the point. I'm not interested in attempting to convince you of anything pertaining to opinions I've learned the futility of THAT. I never said your opinion was invalid I asserted that mine is no less valid whether or not I opt to argue the matter.
Now work on your reading comprehension.
IKR?
>>199569
And your beliefs are irrelevant in that they are personal, subjective, and biased. I'm not interested in arguing biases, its an exercise in futility. You will no more convince me that my biases are incorrect and yours are, as I would inversely.
As far as babbys first, there you go sperging about Pokemon again, in a manner that is wholly unironic and not enticing in the least. You obviously have your pet animes as you keep inserting unnecessary elements of them into your stories. Alright, let me put it simply:
>Toxapex is shit because he is
Not what I said
>"Toxapex is shit because he's op and he's op because Water-Poison is only weak to 3 types that have immune switch-ins"
What you said (essentially)
>I disagree
What I said. I didn't say that just saying it that way effectively illustrates the point, I deliberately said I wasn't going to argue (read: effectively illustrate) the point. I'm not interested in attempting to convince you of anything pertaining to opinions I've learned the futility of THAT. I never said your opinion was invalid I asserted that mine is no less valid whether or not I opt to argue the matter.
Now work on your reading comprehension.
>>199620
Incoherent biases suspicious individual. Ethical treatment for the cromulent assertions. What I said was right and I never said what I said, so I win.
You said it first, but I said it in fewer words and with more winner words. Do I win?
As for the Glimmer thing...
What do you think of what I said about Glimmer's feats, and how they relate to the examples I brought up?
If I made any references you didn't get, it's alright. I'm not a Rick and Morty fan, I won't go all "You need a high IQ to understand Naruto" on you.
Incoherent biases suspicious individual. Ethical treatment for the cromulent assertions. What I said was right and I never said what I said, so I win.
You said it first, but I said it in fewer words and with more winner words. Do I win?
As for the Glimmer thing...
What do you think of what I said about Glimmer's feats, and how they relate to the examples I brought up?
If I made any references you didn't get, it's alright. I'm not a Rick and Morty fan, I won't go all "You need a high IQ to understand Naruto" on you.
>>199650
>What do you think of what I said about Glimmer's feats, and how they relate to the examples I brought up?
Oh you mean
>"Toxapex is shit because he's op and he's op because Water-Poison is only weak to 3 types that have immune switch-ins"
? I already told you, I disagree.
>What do you think of what I said about Glimmer's feats, and how they relate to the examples I brought up?
Oh you mean
>"Toxapex is shit because he's op and he's op because Water-Poison is only weak to 3 types that have immune switch-ins"
? I already told you, I disagree.
>>199657
Hey, sorry if I was a cunt earlier. I'm still not that good at expressing tone through text.
I just used Toxapex as an example. I get that you have your opinions and I have mine, I just find it interesting to discuss fiction in this way.
Why do you like Glimmer's canonical feats? Aside from the time she hit Twilight with a lucky shot and stole her Cutie Mark, none of them feel cool to me.
Hey, sorry if I was a cunt earlier. I'm still not that good at expressing tone through text.
I just used Toxapex as an example. I get that you have your opinions and I have mine, I just find it interesting to discuss fiction in this way.
Why do you like Glimmer's canonical feats? Aside from the time she hit Twilight with a lucky shot and stole her Cutie Mark, none of them feel cool to me.
>>199548
>>199620
”Earned” and ”OP” are not subjective things. They can actually be defined which makes them objective because I can test if they actually are in the story or not. Does Starlight earn her magic powers? Well, it depends on the perspective (this is still not subjective because so long as one shared the perspective it isn't). If I buy a shovel to dig with money I earned from working, then I earned it from that perspective but I can also earn by working for the shop who sells the shovel for the shovel or follow any other agreement. The bottom line is that I did something to get something. But earned is kind of an open word as in open for interpretations but don't be fooled by that it doesn't mean it is subjective. If we take the first example as an example, if don't buy the shovel but steal it instead then it is unearned from perspective presented. Everyone understands what I am saying and therefore it is not subjective. While someone else still can say that he earned it because he was able to steal it that is just another perspective since the word is so open for interpretation still doesn't invalidates the fact that I didn't buy it.
Overpowered is the same thing. While I would say that you need to further expand upon what you mean when you say it since it is not a real and defined word more of an internet expression. We still know about what it is about. I would say that is a characters power level compared to another and to the standard of the story's universe. For example, by this definition, Starlight is op. Starlight has the magic powers to banish discord which was established to be something that no other magic user could do and that the only way of banishing him was by using the elements of harmony. While we are talking about Starlight, I want to say that I kind of understand where Nigel is coming from in his hatred for this character. I dislike her too. I have only ever gone into nerd rage twice for this show and the fight with Starlight and Twilight were Starlight whooped Twilight's ass was one of them. Then I realized this is just a cartoon and cringed but still. She to me represent and exemplify when the show started to go downhill. I also thought it was quite funny that Nigel accused me of having Glimmer as my waifu >>175369 →
While ”earned” and ”Op” is objective, that doesn't mean that the idea that these things are objectively good for story writing and that cool is objective.
I hope I didn't misrepresent you in any way. I read your posts a few time because I felt they were difficult to fully grasp for whatever reason so I might have actually missed a detail of what you wrote and so on. I might have misunderstood you quite a lot so do point that out in that case. I would also say that Nigel's posts are hard to understand as well so I don't know if what he actually said was what I think he meant.
I also think that this post >>199413 is interesting because he might have shown some kind of progression here. The Leaf wrote this >>190750 → and now you can actually see the difference between Silver Star and Sunrise in that Silver Star had the odds in his favor while Sunrise seems to have the odds stacked against him. While this still can be poorly executed for all I know.
>>199620
”Earned” and ”OP” are not subjective things. They can actually be defined which makes them objective because I can test if they actually are in the story or not. Does Starlight earn her magic powers? Well, it depends on the perspective (this is still not subjective because so long as one shared the perspective it isn't). If I buy a shovel to dig with money I earned from working, then I earned it from that perspective but I can also earn by working for the shop who sells the shovel for the shovel or follow any other agreement. The bottom line is that I did something to get something. But earned is kind of an open word as in open for interpretations but don't be fooled by that it doesn't mean it is subjective. If we take the first example as an example, if don't buy the shovel but steal it instead then it is unearned from perspective presented. Everyone understands what I am saying and therefore it is not subjective. While someone else still can say that he earned it because he was able to steal it that is just another perspective since the word is so open for interpretation still doesn't invalidates the fact that I didn't buy it.
Overpowered is the same thing. While I would say that you need to further expand upon what you mean when you say it since it is not a real and defined word more of an internet expression. We still know about what it is about. I would say that is a characters power level compared to another and to the standard of the story's universe. For example, by this definition, Starlight is op. Starlight has the magic powers to banish discord which was established to be something that no other magic user could do and that the only way of banishing him was by using the elements of harmony. While we are talking about Starlight, I want to say that I kind of understand where Nigel is coming from in his hatred for this character. I dislike her too. I have only ever gone into nerd rage twice for this show and the fight with Starlight and Twilight were Starlight whooped Twilight's ass was one of them. Then I realized this is just a cartoon and cringed but still. She to me represent and exemplify when the show started to go downhill. I also thought it was quite funny that Nigel accused me of having Glimmer as my waifu >>175369 →
While ”earned” and ”Op” is objective, that doesn't mean that the idea that these things are objectively good for story writing and that cool is objective.
I hope I didn't misrepresent you in any way. I read your posts a few time because I felt they were difficult to fully grasp for whatever reason so I might have actually missed a detail of what you wrote and so on. I might have misunderstood you quite a lot so do point that out in that case. I would also say that Nigel's posts are hard to understand as well so I don't know if what he actually said was what I think he meant.
I also think that this post >>199413 is interesting because he might have shown some kind of progression here. The Leaf wrote this >>190750 → and now you can actually see the difference between Silver Star and Sunrise in that Silver Star had the odds in his favor while Sunrise seems to have the odds stacked against him. While this still can be poorly executed for all I know.
>>199746
>”Earned” and ”OP” are not subjective things
The words are, yes. The application of those words in this context is opinionated, and therefore subjective.
>this is still not subjective because so long as one shared the perspective it isn't
>perspective
That's like the literal definition of subjective.
Example: Nazi (National Socialist) is an objective concept. The left thinks that people are nazis cuz reasons. There's plenty on the left who agree, they hold the perspective in kind.
And to them, they are Nazis.
And to me, SG's powers are neither OP or unearned, they just don't fit into your preferred/prescribed notions of reasonable or earned.
>”Earned” and ”OP” are not subjective things
The words are, yes. The application of those words in this context is opinionated, and therefore subjective.
>this is still not subjective because so long as one shared the perspective it isn't
>perspective
That's like the literal definition of subjective.
Example: Nazi (National Socialist) is an objective concept. The left thinks that people are nazis cuz reasons. There's plenty on the left who agree, they hold the perspective in kind.
And to them, they are Nazis.
And to me, SG's powers are neither OP or unearned, they just don't fit into your preferred/prescribed notions of reasonable or earned.
>>199806
Huh.
I guess Glimmer only seems OP in this universe because the local powerhouses, Discord and the Alicorns, are absolutely nothing compared to her. If you look at it on a bigger scale, she's nothing and not OP at all because characters like Naruto, Hulk, Goku, and Ben 10 would wipe the floor with her.
But in the confines of "her" universe...
We don't know how magic works, so it's possible that any Unicorn can do what she can do if that Unicorn knows the spell for it. But we never get a sense that she works for the power she had, or ever did that. We never see her reading magic or practicing it. Or getting old books. Or checking out thrift stores for magic books. Or experimenting with magic on a willing test subject, like a rock or friend. Or going to conventions to drop stupid money on a collector's item of a magic book. And we weren't told she set up her Animal Farm just so sue could practice magic all day when she wasn't manipulating others and eat for free.
We never see her doing anything that makes her seem to have earned the bullshit power she can throw around like it's nothing. I never saw her doing that, anyway. Remember when Twilight practiced magic in that Trixie episode? I don't recall a scene like that for Glimmer.
It wouldn't be so bad if we were told she did all her training as a kid, but we're left to headcanon things like this into her to fix her as a character, because she just doesn't work in FIM in her current state. She doesn't feel like a natural extension of the world because she fundamentally makes no sense as a character, villain, or redeemed villain. And people who say Glimmer is fine because you can reinterpret some scenes and headcanon away bad scenes and imagine better scenes for her, imagining a better version of Glimmer and loving that, are like those Bethesda fanboys who say because you can install fanmade mods into Skyrim that fix all of the game's problems by patching glitches, adding content worth a damn, adding whole new mechanics and spell schools, and even revamping the combat altogether, the game is flawless.
You know those two Saiyan women from Dragon Ball Super? Those women who start off weak, and then figure out Super Saiyan 1 and 2 in an hour, fuse, and become some of the franchise's strongest characters just so toys of them can be sold to girls who want a girl saiyan so badly, they'll accept Broly's sloppy seconds of a knockoff?
Huh.
I guess Glimmer only seems OP in this universe because the local powerhouses, Discord and the Alicorns, are absolutely nothing compared to her. If you look at it on a bigger scale, she's nothing and not OP at all because characters like Naruto, Hulk, Goku, and Ben 10 would wipe the floor with her.
But in the confines of "her" universe...
We don't know how magic works, so it's possible that any Unicorn can do what she can do if that Unicorn knows the spell for it. But we never get a sense that she works for the power she had, or ever did that. We never see her reading magic or practicing it. Or getting old books. Or checking out thrift stores for magic books. Or experimenting with magic on a willing test subject, like a rock or friend. Or going to conventions to drop stupid money on a collector's item of a magic book. And we weren't told she set up her Animal Farm just so sue could practice magic all day when she wasn't manipulating others and eat for free.
We never see her doing anything that makes her seem to have earned the bullshit power she can throw around like it's nothing. I never saw her doing that, anyway. Remember when Twilight practiced magic in that Trixie episode? I don't recall a scene like that for Glimmer.
It wouldn't be so bad if we were told she did all her training as a kid, but we're left to headcanon things like this into her to fix her as a character, because she just doesn't work in FIM in her current state. She doesn't feel like a natural extension of the world because she fundamentally makes no sense as a character, villain, or redeemed villain. And people who say Glimmer is fine because you can reinterpret some scenes and headcanon away bad scenes and imagine better scenes for her, imagining a better version of Glimmer and loving that, are like those Bethesda fanboys who say because you can install fanmade mods into Skyrim that fix all of the game's problems by patching glitches, adding content worth a damn, adding whole new mechanics and spell schools, and even revamping the combat altogether, the game is flawless.
You know those two Saiyan women from Dragon Ball Super? Those women who start off weak, and then figure out Super Saiyan 1 and 2 in an hour, fuse, and become some of the franchise's strongest characters just so toys of them can be sold to girls who want a girl saiyan so badly, they'll accept Broly's sloppy seconds of a knockoff?
>>199413
>Sasuke pulling that trick with his emo poetry was a lot cooler than The Great Snake Escape, which was a load of bullshit.
I can't believe nobody asked for elaboration on this.
Right, there's this scene in Naruto. Everyone can do the Clone Jutsu (makes an illusionary ghostly copy of you), the Transformation Jutsu (turns you into whatever you want), and a few others, on top of their own personal ninja shit like "my eyes see all around me" and "My shadow moves and links their motions with mine" and "my insides are full of bugs".
Team Naruto is in the forest of death, and Naruto goes to take a whizz. Sasuke says "We need a password, to make sure we are who we say we are" and proceeds to recite poetry.
>A ninja waits until the time is right.
>When his weapons lie forgotten in the stillness of the night.
>That is the moment for a ninja to strike.
Naruto: ...wat
Sasuke: I'm not repeating it.
(Naruto goes and pisses, gets eaten by a giant snake, clones himself within the snake until it explodes. Meanwhile, fake "Naruto" shows up and recites the poem perfectly when prompted. Sasuke kicks the ass of "Naruto", explaining that you'd have an easier time teaching that poem to a hamster.)
That poem wasn't an actual password, it was a trap for anyone dumb enough to think Naruto isn't an idiot.
Of course, Naruto is only book-dumb at this point in the story. Sasuke just thinks Naruto is a fucking idiot 24/7.
It's such a Sasuke thing to think of, and it works.
It's a pretty cool scene.
Then, there's the Great Snake Escape.
Sasuke is fighting Deidara, some explosion fetish guy with hands in his mouths that eat and vomit magic explosive clay.
Deidara has a scouter on that makes him immune to Genjutsu, because he's Akatsuki like Itachi Uchiha, and Deidara hates Uchihas.
Sasuke wins for a while.
Then Sasuke runs out of chakra, which is ninja mana points. When out of chakra, you can't do ninja magic. No walking on water, no teleports behind you nothing personell kid, no stealthy ninja meteors.
Sasuke is OOM.
Then Deidara uses a big explosive attack.
It goes off, and Sasuke is about to get hit by it and die.
Sasuke summons a giant snake, hypnotizes it, jumps into its mouth, and teleports it and himself out of harm's way, all to avoid a massive 10-kilometer-radius explosion.
He uses these four highly costly spells in a row, when he's supposed to have no MP left.
All of that was done by Sasuke after said explosion had already gone off a few feet away from him.
To this day, fans of Naruto still joke about "The Great Snake Escape", one of the dumbest Plot No Jutsu asspulls in the show.
>Sasuke pulling that trick with his emo poetry was a lot cooler than The Great Snake Escape, which was a load of bullshit.
I can't believe nobody asked for elaboration on this.
Right, there's this scene in Naruto. Everyone can do the Clone Jutsu (makes an illusionary ghostly copy of you), the Transformation Jutsu (turns you into whatever you want), and a few others, on top of their own personal ninja shit like "my eyes see all around me" and "My shadow moves and links their motions with mine" and "my insides are full of bugs".
Team Naruto is in the forest of death, and Naruto goes to take a whizz. Sasuke says "We need a password, to make sure we are who we say we are" and proceeds to recite poetry.
>A ninja waits until the time is right.
>When his weapons lie forgotten in the stillness of the night.
>That is the moment for a ninja to strike.
Naruto: ...wat
Sasuke: I'm not repeating it.
(Naruto goes and pisses, gets eaten by a giant snake, clones himself within the snake until it explodes. Meanwhile, fake "Naruto" shows up and recites the poem perfectly when prompted. Sasuke kicks the ass of "Naruto", explaining that you'd have an easier time teaching that poem to a hamster.)
That poem wasn't an actual password, it was a trap for anyone dumb enough to think Naruto isn't an idiot.
Of course, Naruto is only book-dumb at this point in the story. Sasuke just thinks Naruto is a fucking idiot 24/7.
It's such a Sasuke thing to think of, and it works.
It's a pretty cool scene.
Then, there's the Great Snake Escape.
Sasuke is fighting Deidara, some explosion fetish guy with hands in his mouths that eat and vomit magic explosive clay.
Deidara has a scouter on that makes him immune to Genjutsu, because he's Akatsuki like Itachi Uchiha, and Deidara hates Uchihas.
Sasuke wins for a while.
Then Sasuke runs out of chakra, which is ninja mana points. When out of chakra, you can't do ninja magic. No walking on water, no teleports behind you nothing personell kid, no stealthy ninja meteors.
Sasuke is OOM.
Then Deidara uses a big explosive attack.
It goes off, and Sasuke is about to get hit by it and die.
Sasuke summons a giant snake, hypnotizes it, jumps into its mouth, and teleports it and himself out of harm's way, all to avoid a massive 10-kilometer-radius explosion.
He uses these four highly costly spells in a row, when he's supposed to have no MP left.
All of that was done by Sasuke after said explosion had already gone off a few feet away from him.
To this day, fans of Naruto still joke about "The Great Snake Escape", one of the dumbest Plot No Jutsu asspulls in the show.
>>199861
Wait wait wait wait.
Let's not get into issues of headcannon rewrites, Mr. "Starlight Glimmer is a Serial Murderer for Cutie Marks".
Since you won't let this go, part of the reason I won't argue the point right now is because its been a while since I've seen those episodes and I don't want to cite details that are inaccurate.
So, I'll tell you what. I'll go back and watch all the Starlight Glimmer episodes, and then I'm gonna curb-stomp you with some truf. I'll need a week's time. Deal?
Wait wait wait wait.
Let's not get into issues of headcannon rewrites, Mr. "Starlight Glimmer is a Serial Murderer for Cutie Marks".
Since you won't let this go, part of the reason I won't argue the point right now is because its been a while since I've seen those episodes and I don't want to cite details that are inaccurate.
So, I'll tell you what. I'll go back and watch all the Starlight Glimmer episodes, and then I'm gonna curb-stomp you with some truf. I'll need a week's time. Deal?
>>199892
"Glimmer is a murderer" is just my own imagined explanation for how Glimmer was able to have more Wall Trophies than ponies. I know it isn't canon, just like the "Her parents are abusive!" crap some of her fans make up.
But alright, this sounds like it could be fun. Good luck! Also, take two weeks if you want. I know I needed to take breaks when dealing with her episodes.
"Glimmer is a murderer" is just my own imagined explanation for how Glimmer was able to have more Wall Trophies than ponies. I know it isn't canon, just like the "Her parents are abusive!" crap some of her fans make up.
But alright, this sounds like it could be fun. Good luck! Also, take two weeks if you want. I know I needed to take breaks when dealing with her episodes.
>>199892
Wait, that choice of words... "won't let this go"? This is a fun time we're having here, discussing cartoon characters instead of serious political shit.
Wait, that choice of words... "won't let this go"? This is a fun time we're having here, discussing cartoon characters instead of serious political shit.
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>>199863
Nobody asked. Nobody cares. You don’t connect this to anything in the current conversation, you just start yapping away about Naruto, completely oblivious to the fact that no one but you is even remotely interested in the subject. This is why everyone thinks you’re an autistic retard.
Nobody asked. Nobody cares. You don’t connect this to anything in the current conversation, you just start yapping away about Naruto, completely oblivious to the fact that no one but you is even remotely interested in the subject. This is why everyone thinks you’re an autistic retard.
>>199863
>I can't believe nobody asked for elaboration on this.
If you think about it, that's really the saddest thing of all.
>I can't believe nobody asked for elaboration on this.
If you think about it, that's really the saddest thing of all.
>>200020
Why would you think that's me? Your playground-tier insults aren't exactly clever or cutting. I've heard better "Nobody likes u fuk off!" style "zingers" from libtards.
Why would you think that's me? Your playground-tier insults aren't exactly clever or cutting. I've heard better "Nobody likes u fuk off!" style "zingers" from libtards.
>>200035
>libtards
Don't forget about the Commissars, I suspect they may also be involved. This whole thing is part of the vast Glimmernigger conspiracy, I'm sure of it.
>libtards
Don't forget about the Commissars, I suspect they may also be involved. This whole thing is part of the vast Glimmernigger conspiracy, I'm sure of it.
>>200316
You mean the vast libtard conspiracy to shame, bully, and erase white males along with western culture?
Nah, some Glimmer fans are just massive crybabies. They don't need a massive conspiracy to make them act this way.
You mean the vast libtard conspiracy to shame, bully, and erase white males along with western culture?
Nah, some Glimmer fans are just massive crybabies. They don't need a massive conspiracy to make them act this way.
>>200324
Nigil is just a massive crybaby. He doesn't need a massive conspiracy to make him act this way.
Nigil is just a massive crybaby. He doesn't need a massive conspiracy to make him act this way.
>>200325
Was wondering when you'd show up.
I know you're from Reddit and all, but can we not do the whole "Take turns calling the other bad names for flimsy reasons" thing and keep this thread on topic?
Was wondering when you'd show up.
I know you're from Reddit and all, but can we not do the whole "Take turns calling the other bad names for flimsy reasons" thing and keep this thread on topic?
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