Abrahamic religions take themselves way too seriously. most major religious conflicts have been caused by these tryhards who can't accept other peoples opinions. infighting is inevitable when your religion teaches that their is "one true way to heaven" (protestants Catholics and zionists).fuck ideology in general make up your own mind rather than relying on someone elses opinions you mostly agree with
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>>163999
There can be only one culture and ideology in a given society. One 'tribe' so to speak. Individualism, which sounds like what you advocate, is fundamentally impossible given the human condition, this is not specific to religion, though it's a good example of it. Homogeneity of race, or culture, or ideology, or a combination of the three is the only way to prevent conflict, and homogeneity only works if there are barriers between different groups. The barriers we used to have were geographical, oceans, mountains, deserts and jungles, they kept us separated so we could practice our ways of life without conflicting with each other. Advancing technology brought an end to that, the age of the sail, radio, air travel, the internet, all these things have erased the barriers between us. We're effectively being pushed together, forced to intermix and that's the source of the conflict, the world is too small for us now and if we don't leave it soon, the conflict will only grow in intensity until there is only one culture, one race, by interbreeding or by elimination, one ideology left. Many people can sense this innately, which is why there's been a return to nationalism and religion, people are scrambling to ensure that their way of life is the one that survives.
There can be only one culture and ideology in a given society. One 'tribe' so to speak. Individualism, which sounds like what you advocate, is fundamentally impossible given the human condition, this is not specific to religion, though it's a good example of it. Homogeneity of race, or culture, or ideology, or a combination of the three is the only way to prevent conflict, and homogeneity only works if there are barriers between different groups. The barriers we used to have were geographical, oceans, mountains, deserts and jungles, they kept us separated so we could practice our ways of life without conflicting with each other. Advancing technology brought an end to that, the age of the sail, radio, air travel, the internet, all these things have erased the barriers between us. We're effectively being pushed together, forced to intermix and that's the source of the conflict, the world is too small for us now and if we don't leave it soon, the conflict will only grow in intensity until there is only one culture, one race, by interbreeding or by elimination, one ideology left. Many people can sense this innately, which is why there's been a return to nationalism and religion, people are scrambling to ensure that their way of life is the one that survives.
>>164016
Those would all solve the problem, yes, it has even happened before in our history with the other homo variants. We, homo sapiens, either killed or bred with the other human populations to become the dominant form, it occurs amongst the animals we live with and even down to the cellular level with bacteria and viruses. If it occurs on the smallest of scales, then there's no reason to believe it wouldn't go the other way. Most of us are familiar with the idea that memes spread and behave like living things, making sociology no different than biology, weak ideas die while strong ideas thrive and propagate.
Those would all solve the problem, yes, it has even happened before in our history with the other homo variants. We, homo sapiens, either killed or bred with the other human populations to become the dominant form, it occurs amongst the animals we live with and even down to the cellular level with bacteria and viruses. If it occurs on the smallest of scales, then there's no reason to believe it wouldn't go the other way. Most of us are familiar with the idea that memes spread and behave like living things, making sociology no different than biology, weak ideas die while strong ideas thrive and propagate.
>>164026
It sounds crazy until you start seeing the same patterns of behaviour crop up in all manner of things. Economic competition, courting rituals, geopolitics, sportball tournaments, genetics, ideology. We are all predisposed to value our ability to exist and propagate and anything spawned from us, our ideas, our nations are all bound to do the same thing when that desire to exist and spread is threatened, conflict occurs endlessly until the competition is assimilated or destroyed, or the two opposing forces are no longer in contact with each other.
Take the cannibalistic tribes isolated from the world in the jungles of south america. Consider if one of those were suddenly uprooted and dropped smack dab in Central Park, New York. It wouldn't be tolerated, there's no way for both New York City and this cannibalistic tribe to coexist, so either the tribe gets destroyed trying to defend itself or assimilated into the larger group which is also a form of destruction. The conflict would cease to exist all together if an enormous, impenetrable barrier theoretically sprang up around the park preventing anyone from leaving or entering or even interacting with the other side.
To tie back into the thread's topic, religion behaves exactly like this, only one can be dominant, the others must be subservient or eliminated depending on sectional beliefs.
It sounds crazy until you start seeing the same patterns of behaviour crop up in all manner of things. Economic competition, courting rituals, geopolitics, sportball tournaments, genetics, ideology. We are all predisposed to value our ability to exist and propagate and anything spawned from us, our ideas, our nations are all bound to do the same thing when that desire to exist and spread is threatened, conflict occurs endlessly until the competition is assimilated or destroyed, or the two opposing forces are no longer in contact with each other.
Take the cannibalistic tribes isolated from the world in the jungles of south america. Consider if one of those were suddenly uprooted and dropped smack dab in Central Park, New York. It wouldn't be tolerated, there's no way for both New York City and this cannibalistic tribe to coexist, so either the tribe gets destroyed trying to defend itself or assimilated into the larger group which is also a form of destruction. The conflict would cease to exist all together if an enormous, impenetrable barrier theoretically sprang up around the park preventing anyone from leaving or entering or even interacting with the other side.
To tie back into the thread's topic, religion behaves exactly like this, only one can be dominant, the others must be subservient or eliminated depending on sectional beliefs.
>>164030
Not quite, Europe is a fine example of whites not getting along just fine, but that's more due to ideological differences than genetic. We can get along as a group because we're all part of the same race, but start throwing in ideology in there, would you get along with Antifa members, many of whom are white? Of course not. Communists? Fuck no.
Not quite, Europe is a fine example of whites not getting along just fine, but that's more due to ideological differences than genetic. We can get along as a group because we're all part of the same race, but start throwing in ideology in there, would you get along with Antifa members, many of whom are white? Of course not. Communists? Fuck no.
It's obvious that Yahweh prefers His people fighting.
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>>163999
This post is terribly constructed. Lets see how we can deconstruct it.
>Abrahamic religions take themselves way too seriously.
Yea and Hindus don't kill people just because their religion says they can eat cows. If you are going to insult the Abrahamic religions don't imply any negativity around them is exclusive when its not.
>Classic War is because religion argument
I'd argue there is much more to conflict in the past and present than simple religion. Most "religious" conflicts contain more than just religion to spark warfare. For example the Thirty Years' War was deeply involved with religion but most historians would agree it was not primarily caused by religion. In fact I'd argue that if everyone today became atheists it wouldn't do much to stop these "religious" conflicts today because many other factors play a role. Regardless I'm sure you can come up with some examples disfavoring religion. To that I would simply like to point out that its really a drop in the bucket. The existence of religious conflict should not imply that therefore all religion or monotheistic religion is bad. That's like arguing that because someone burnt their house down with a fire therefore fire should never be used to cook.
>infighting is inevitable when your religion teaches that their is "one true way to heaven" (protestants Catholics and zionists).
I'm really not sure what you mean by this. Religions argue about the technicalities of how to get in "heaven", but all the Abrahamic religions are pretty clear in the sense that they want you to care about your actions as an individual. This more than anything means the Abrahamic religions have helped to make people across the world better individuals.
I'd argue there is only one way to heaven and that is through God's grace. My deeds in this world are insignificant and I do not believe just by "being a good person" I can become saved. A good person today is much different than a good person 500 years ago. Only through faith can we be saved as that is unchanging and how to achieve God's grace. A Catholic man would believe in co operative grace, but I decry such a notion.
>inb4 "lamo you can just be an asshole and still get to heaven if you just believe in Christ"
A truly faithful person doesn't believe his faith is an excuse to act foolishly and expect salvation. I just cannot believe something as arbitrary as what we simple people call "good deeds" can earn a place in heaven. Our sense of morality is too fragile and subject to change to be the key to salvation. I doubt religious figures 400 years ago would ever condone many of the practices in society today.
>fuck ideology in general make up your own mind rather than relying on someone elses opinions you mostly agree with
I'm not sure if you are implying that everyone should make up their own religion or if people should decide on a religion rather than learning to follow one early. I explained some of my reasoning for being a protestant and I bet everyone else here holds their own rationale for believing their choice religions. For most people their religion means a lot to them I think you are ignorant to imply people follow religion blindly.
OP you are a faggot and this is a super low effort "rail against religion" post. Did you parents make you attend some shitty church service or have you just been watching too many ISIS videos?
This post is terribly constructed. Lets see how we can deconstruct it.
>Abrahamic religions take themselves way too seriously.
Yea and Hindus don't kill people just because their religion says they can eat cows. If you are going to insult the Abrahamic religions don't imply any negativity around them is exclusive when its not.
>Classic War is because religion argument
I'd argue there is much more to conflict in the past and present than simple religion. Most "religious" conflicts contain more than just religion to spark warfare. For example the Thirty Years' War was deeply involved with religion but most historians would agree it was not primarily caused by religion. In fact I'd argue that if everyone today became atheists it wouldn't do much to stop these "religious" conflicts today because many other factors play a role. Regardless I'm sure you can come up with some examples disfavoring religion. To that I would simply like to point out that its really a drop in the bucket. The existence of religious conflict should not imply that therefore all religion or monotheistic religion is bad. That's like arguing that because someone burnt their house down with a fire therefore fire should never be used to cook.
>infighting is inevitable when your religion teaches that their is "one true way to heaven" (protestants Catholics and zionists).
I'm really not sure what you mean by this. Religions argue about the technicalities of how to get in "heaven", but all the Abrahamic religions are pretty clear in the sense that they want you to care about your actions as an individual. This more than anything means the Abrahamic religions have helped to make people across the world better individuals.
I'd argue there is only one way to heaven and that is through God's grace. My deeds in this world are insignificant and I do not believe just by "being a good person" I can become saved. A good person today is much different than a good person 500 years ago. Only through faith can we be saved as that is unchanging and how to achieve God's grace. A Catholic man would believe in co operative grace, but I decry such a notion.
>inb4 "lamo you can just be an asshole and still get to heaven if you just believe in Christ"
A truly faithful person doesn't believe his faith is an excuse to act foolishly and expect salvation. I just cannot believe something as arbitrary as what we simple people call "good deeds" can earn a place in heaven. Our sense of morality is too fragile and subject to change to be the key to salvation. I doubt religious figures 400 years ago would ever condone many of the practices in society today.
>fuck ideology in general make up your own mind rather than relying on someone elses opinions you mostly agree with
I'm not sure if you are implying that everyone should make up their own religion or if people should decide on a religion rather than learning to follow one early. I explained some of my reasoning for being a protestant and I bet everyone else here holds their own rationale for believing their choice religions. For most people their religion means a lot to them I think you are ignorant to imply people follow religion blindly.
OP you are a faggot and this is a super low effort "rail against religion" post. Did you parents make you attend some shitty church service or have you just been watching too many ISIS videos?
>>164063
If a shitpost generates legitimate thoughtful discussion I don't think it counts as a victory for the troll just because he got people to respond to his bait. It works on /pol/ because when someone posts a bait thread it gets hundreds of replies instantly, the vast majority of which are just as puerile and stupid as the OP's post. On a high traffic fast board this generally means that the bait threads take up the bulk of the catalog and serious, thoughtful threads get buried. Even serious thoughtful replies to a bait thread are usually drowned out in the cacophony of "no u." Here that's not so much of a problem. >>164037 for example made a very thoughtful and intelligent response to OP's antagonistic faggotry and wrote something worth reading, and what's more it will likely remain visible long enough for someone to actually read it.
We're not on 4chan anymore, and that's a good thing.
If a shitpost generates legitimate thoughtful discussion I don't think it counts as a victory for the troll just because he got people to respond to his bait. It works on /pol/ because when someone posts a bait thread it gets hundreds of replies instantly, the vast majority of which are just as puerile and stupid as the OP's post. On a high traffic fast board this generally means that the bait threads take up the bulk of the catalog and serious, thoughtful threads get buried. Even serious thoughtful replies to a bait thread are usually drowned out in the cacophony of "no u." Here that's not so much of a problem. >>164037 for example made a very thoughtful and intelligent response to OP's antagonistic faggotry and wrote something worth reading, and what's more it will likely remain visible long enough for someone to actually read it.
We're not on 4chan anymore, and that's a good thing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cKu6YN3CgA
what if I said I've
seen a miracle?
what if I said my
dreams come true?
would you believe
I have seen these things
with my own eyes &
saw the world go dark & dead
& then go green & blue again
you're my Angel.
you're my Devil, too.
When you fall,
raise your eyes &
know the sun & moon
will rise &
lift you up in love,
above this mad raging zoo
What if I told you
you were beautiful?
with your scars & missing parts & your
painted face?
What if I told you,
you were very necessary to the
chain, the vein, the children of
a young & foolish race?
you're my Angel.
you're my Devil, too.
When you fall,
raise your eyes &
know the sun & moon
will rise &
lift you up in love,
above this raging zoo
what if I said I
saw the future:
& the future was the
picture in your head?
what if I said to you to
paint another picture & you'd
wake up in that future that you'd
painted, & you did?
Everything exists in between its polar extremes. The war never ends.
>most major religious conflicts have been caused by these tryhards
>most religious conflicts have been caused by religion
Ya don't say…
>most religious conflicts have been caused by religion
Ya don't say…
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Entropy allows division over anything. And emotion allows myopic extremist focus on you being right and them being wrong. This works especially well when there are no facts just belief.
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>>164093
OP is most likely an atheist Jew. Keep in mind he also blames Christianity rather than Islam.
OP is most likely an atheist Jew. Keep in mind he also blames Christianity rather than Islam.
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>>164116
>>164118
Source is: https://carm.org/religion-cause-war
There is also pic related which is attributed to the 1502 page book named in the image.
>>164118
Source is: https://carm.org/religion-cause-war
There is also pic related which is attributed to the 1502 page book named in the image.
>>164063
The board is really slow right now.Its pretty obvious OP is baiting, but it's better than doing nothing at this point.
The board is really slow right now.Its pretty obvious OP is baiting, but it's better than doing nothing at this point.
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>>163999
Personally I hate the people of the book. I love cathedrals and beautiful mosques but those are reflections of the people.
I love ancient Greek, Roman and Nordic mythology. Others out there are also cool like Shintoism or really anything that has good stories and promotes the peoples cultures they come from.
Im still probably going to go to marry a good christian girl and go to church because its one of the only ways to find a good women and I like singing hymns.
Personally I hate the people of the book. I love cathedrals and beautiful mosques but those are reflections of the people.
I love ancient Greek, Roman and Nordic mythology. Others out there are also cool like Shintoism or really anything that has good stories and promotes the peoples cultures they come from.
Im still probably going to go to marry a good christian girl and go to church because its one of the only ways to find a good women and I like singing hymns.
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>>163999
shit thread (((anon))) divide and conquer doesnt work anymore.
https://cheekyvideos.net/murdoch/Skydaddies%20Being%20and%20Time.html
shit thread (((anon))) divide and conquer doesnt work anymore.
https://cheekyvideos.net/murdoch/Skydaddies%20Being%20and%20Time.html
>>164310
I thought up Y with a line was a life rune and upside down was death rune. Read that the Nazis started putting upside down Y runes on documents instead of crosses to indicate deceased soldiers.
I thought up Y with a line was a life rune and upside down was death rune. Read that the Nazis started putting upside down Y runes on documents instead of crosses to indicate deceased soldiers.
>>164325
Well, the rune is Algiz. There's lots of interpretations and meanings, but death is definitely not one of 'em. Individual results may vary.
https://runesecrets.com/rune-meanings/algiz
Well, the rune is Algiz. There's lots of interpretations and meanings, but death is definitely not one of 'em. Individual results may vary.
https://runesecrets.com/rune-meanings/algiz
>>164037
>>164293
How adorably cucked you two, and most likely your entire lineages, are. Divid et conquer still functions wonderfully well. How? Simply look at all those cuckstain churches across the world. How many "revisions", "new interpretations", "new prophecies" are there? Oh, it simply does not make sense, why would the kikels spread so many superstitious lies which end up contiguously fragmenting the goy? To divide, in order to best conquer.
>>164293
How adorably cucked you two, and most likely your entire lineages, are. Divid et conquer still functions wonderfully well. How? Simply look at all those cuckstain churches across the world. How many "revisions", "new interpretations", "new prophecies" are there? Oh, it simply does not make sense, why would the kikels spread so many superstitious lies which end up contiguously fragmenting the goy? To divide, in order to best conquer.
Hitler trips confirm it. Rigid religions are doomed to fail as science develops. A looser, more lax religion tolerant of new ideals that is more allegory than doctrine is much more suited to growing without extremism or science denial.
Creationism especially is a cancer that needs to be routed. We have a history thousands of years past that of any holy book and our ancestors can be traced even further back. This does not devalue humanity's ability and intelligence. No other animal is capable of throwing items anywhere near as effectively due to lack of balance and musculature. No other animal is capable of reaching as of yet unknown regions of outer space.
We are special, but that does not mean we aren't a part of the world around us. And if you believe that, as long as you do not attack others who don't and forcibly convert masses of people by the sword, at least your lack of understanding doesn't harm anyone.
Creationism especially is a cancer that needs to be routed. We have a history thousands of years past that of any holy book and our ancestors can be traced even further back. This does not devalue humanity's ability and intelligence. No other animal is capable of throwing items anywhere near as effectively due to lack of balance and musculature. No other animal is capable of reaching as of yet unknown regions of outer space.
We are special, but that does not mean we aren't a part of the world around us. And if you believe that, as long as you do not attack others who don't and forcibly convert masses of people by the sword, at least your lack of understanding doesn't harm anyone.
>>164031
>"Wow, ah guess CNN was right, white people CAN be terrorists!"
"Yeah…'white.'"
"They're about as white as these sewer vermin."
>"Wow, ah guess CNN was right, white people CAN be terrorists!"
"Yeah…'white.'"
"They're about as white as these sewer vermin."
>>164121
That's misleading. There are probably a lot of nihilist atheists who just wanna see the world burn, but how does lack of belief cause any conflict?
No, the issues there are usually non-religious ideologies. As much as we may like to conflate them, atheism =/= communism and communism =/= atheism. Many atheists are not outspoken antitheists, and those dictators who are such as Stalin use antitheism specifically to steal the authority of that religion for themselves. No different from a lion killing descendents of another lion: without god or any other higher cause, you can declare yourself the highest authority with less competition.
If you believe atheism caused communism and our recent wars for oil, then you also have to believe Hitler's bad decisions were caused by Christianity. I say neither are at fault so much as social and racial tension caused by (((certain people))) and their antifascist puppets.
That's misleading. There are probably a lot of nihilist atheists who just wanna see the world burn, but how does lack of belief cause any conflict?
No, the issues there are usually non-religious ideologies. As much as we may like to conflate them, atheism =/= communism and communism =/= atheism. Many atheists are not outspoken antitheists, and those dictators who are such as Stalin use antitheism specifically to steal the authority of that religion for themselves. No different from a lion killing descendents of another lion: without god or any other higher cause, you can declare yourself the highest authority with less competition.
If you believe atheism caused communism and our recent wars for oil, then you also have to believe Hitler's bad decisions were caused by Christianity. I say neither are at fault so much as social and racial tension caused by (((certain people))) and their antifascist puppets.
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>"If I'm in a conflict and the side I don't like completely gives up, the conflict will end so everyone will be happy!"
This thread is bad and (((You))) should feel bad
This thread is bad and (((You))) should feel bad
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>>164326
Maybe the Nazis changed or used a different version? I got a book right here saying they are the Leben Rune and Toten Rune. It wouldn't surprise me. The Nazis don't really like to stick to the consistency band wagon very often.
Maybe the Nazis changed or used a different version? I got a book right here saying they are the Leben Rune and Toten Rune. It wouldn't surprise me. The Nazis don't really like to stick to the consistency band wagon very often.
>>164373
I would hardly call Hitler or his vision of Nazi German Christian. I almost all of his pro Christian rhetoric is because they had an agreement with the Italians not to shit on Catholics and because so many Germans were Christian. I don't know Hitler's personal views on the topic, but the Nazis wanted to replace Christianity in the long run.
I would hardly call Hitler or his vision of Nazi German Christian. I almost all of his pro Christian rhetoric is because they had an agreement with the Italians not to shit on Catholics and because so many Germans were Christian. I don't know Hitler's personal views on the topic, but the Nazis wanted to replace Christianity in the long run.
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Das Vril Projekt (1992) - Ralf Ettl and Norbert Jürgen-Ratthofer, STM-Tempelhof, Vienna
VRIL Is more than a technology. VRIL is more than a world view. VRIL is the highest and purest INTERCOSMIC RELIGION.
The VRIL spirit in politics:
The spirit of the VRIL is above all small things. It is global, universal, intercosmic, therefore, it recognizes what is necessary for this world. The VRIL spirit is based on heirs of Germany. But it does not mean nationalism but obligation. The nation we have to form is a new nation, the nation of all Europeans and European-born people. When Europe grows around its center - To Germany, it will be in a blessed peace forever and fruitful for the whole world. Our nation of the coming age will no longer distinguish between Germans, French, British, Swedes, Spaniards, Italians, Hungarians, Croats, Swiss, Baltic, Russians, and Portuguese, and so on . And we will not bring others to dominion, but will establish the world-community of eternal order and justice. Because that is true VRIL spirit: to be able to be done to every human being according to its kind. Oppression and group egoisms will no longer go. The thousand-year-old empire of peace and understanding will know!
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Das Vril Projekt (1992) - Ralf Ettl and Norbert Jürgen-Ratthofer, STM-Tempelhof, Vienna
VRIL Is more than a technology. VRIL is more than a world view. VRIL is the highest and purest INTERCOSMIC RELIGION.
The VRIL spirit in politics:
The spirit of the VRIL is above all small things. It is global, universal, intercosmic, therefore, it recognizes what is necessary for this world. The VRIL spirit is based on heirs of Germany. But it does not mean nationalism but obligation. The nation we have to form is a new nation, the nation of all Europeans and European-born people. When Europe grows around its center - To Germany, it will be in a blessed peace forever and fruitful for the whole world. Our nation of the coming age will no longer distinguish between Germans, French, British, Swedes, Spaniards, Italians, Hungarians, Croats, Swiss, Baltic, Russians, and Portuguese, and so on . And we will not bring others to dominion, but will establish the world-community of eternal order and justice. Because that is true VRIL spirit: to be able to be done to every human being according to its kind. Oppression and group egoisms will no longer go. The thousand-year-old empire of peace and understanding will know!
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>>164439
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THE ROUTE TO THULE (Pic #2)
In the two following years a circle formed around Sebottendorff, which was bundled by the "Teutonic Order" in the "THULE Society". Rudolf Hess is already active here, but also Alfred Rosenberg. Few known names of the early Thule society were: Trebitsch-Lincoln, Countess Westrap or the publisher Lehmann. Erich Koch and Heinrich Himmler may have already been in touch with the Thule society. One of the most important names, however, was Dr.W.O. Schumann; Of him we shall have to report especially.
In the year 1919, Thule society, which had until then been mainly mentally interested, fell into the whirlpool of political events.
During the defensive battles against the Marxist Räteregime in Munich, Thule people placed themselves at the head of the resistance. The "Freikorp Ober land" was also the result of a Thule initiative, which had resulted in the development of a new branch: the VRIL Society, where Dr. Schumann was soon to play a decisive role should.
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The "Baphomet" symbol of the Templars represented an encryption of the same motif.
The "supreme deity ILU" (the "omnipotence") is both male and female at the same time. On the other hand, the Mosaic teachings of the dark age (Judaism, Pseudo-Christianity, Islam) are anti-feminist because the El Shaddai Yahweh is only male.
In spite of all the falsification of original true Christianity, the symbolism has survived that the woman (here Mary) defeats the serpent (Satan). This corresponds to an encrypted memory of the imminent victory of the goddess Ishtar-Ostara over the El Shaddai Yahweh.
VRIL - HOW TO "GOD-LIKE" …
While the Thule society was increasingly determined by the political path of the "Third Reich," the branch of the "Vril Society", which became more and more independent, went its own way.
"VRIL", which derives from the Akkadian "vri-lL" = "like the highest divinity", means roughly as much as "godlike". And that is why, at the heart of the matter, it was also a matter of exploring the divinity and being like God, which means; Godly means to shape a new world in a new age.
The Vril philosophy or Vril theology (to speak of an ideology would be wrong) differed from the Thule and Nazi ideology in many respects. The difference can be brought to a simple denominator: The Vril society was essentially oriented on the other side.
But there were still many connecting points between Vril and Thule society. They both sought the secrets of the distant past:
Atlantis, Thule, the "Island of the Blessed" of the Gilgamesh - in the rocks of Heligoland they recognized their survival. Then the clock connection between Germany and Mesopotamia. But also ancient sanctuaries such as the exteriors or the Hausberg of Stronegg were subjects of joint research. Soon Hans Hörbiger's "Welteislehre" was added. In short, it became a collection point for unconventional ideas and views of various kinds.
And so it really does not come as a surprise if one of the most fantastic ideas ever imagined by humans in this circle on fertile ground: Dr. Schumann's idea of ..a "beyond-machine" …
THE 'OTHER SCIENCE'
They were Schumann and the Vril people - then still directly connected with the Thule society - who were planning to build a machine which they called "the machine behind". It was to be a machine for the "transmutation of matter-of-matter in extinction and back again." In short, a machine for overcoming space and time, of life and death; A machine with which one could visit "the worlds of the gods" in order to gain CERTAINITY OF THE ETERNAL TRUTH Sebottendorff had thought about the "Mani Sola" and with the help of the Holy Spear (Marduks / Odins) the way to the beyond The technician Dr. Schumann thought of doing things with technical means.
In December 1919, the innermost circle of the Thule and Vril Society met in an old forestery house in the Ramsau near Berchtesgaden. One of the main persons of this meeting was the medium Maria Orschić (Orsić) from Zagreb. She had brought two piles of described papers. The leaves of one of the piles showed the bizarre German Templar inscription, the other the transmissions in normal-literary writing. The content of these pages was entered and dictated in a medial way - in the "temple script" and in a language that was completely unknown to the medium. However, Maria Orschitsch thought it was an old Oriental language, and therefore had a connection with the "Panbabylonist" circle of friends (founded by Friedrich Delitzsch, Hugo Winckler, Peter Jensen, and others), who was a member of the Thule Circle.
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This book comes from a group that formed around Wilhelm Landig:
>Landig was a former SS member who revived the ariosophical mythology of Thule. He coined the idea of the Black Sun, a substitute swastika and mythical source of energy. He was born on 20 December 1909.[1] He wrote the Thule trilogy Götzen gegen Thule, Wolfszeit um Thule and Rebellen für Thule – Das Erbe von Atlantis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landig_Group
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THE ROUTE TO THULE (Pic #2)
In the two following years a circle formed around Sebottendorff, which was bundled by the "Teutonic Order" in the "THULE Society". Rudolf Hess is already active here, but also Alfred Rosenberg. Few known names of the early Thule society were: Trebitsch-Lincoln, Countess Westrap or the publisher Lehmann. Erich Koch and Heinrich Himmler may have already been in touch with the Thule society. One of the most important names, however, was Dr.W.O. Schumann; Of him we shall have to report especially.
In the year 1919, Thule society, which had until then been mainly mentally interested, fell into the whirlpool of political events.
During the defensive battles against the Marxist Räteregime in Munich, Thule people placed themselves at the head of the resistance. The "Freikorp Ober land" was also the result of a Thule initiative, which had resulted in the development of a new branch: the VRIL Society, where Dr. Schumann was soon to play a decisive role should.
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The "Baphomet" symbol of the Templars represented an encryption of the same motif.
The "supreme deity ILU" (the "omnipotence") is both male and female at the same time. On the other hand, the Mosaic teachings of the dark age (Judaism, Pseudo-Christianity, Islam) are anti-feminist because the El Shaddai Yahweh is only male.
In spite of all the falsification of original true Christianity, the symbolism has survived that the woman (here Mary) defeats the serpent (Satan). This corresponds to an encrypted memory of the imminent victory of the goddess Ishtar-Ostara over the El Shaddai Yahweh.
VRIL - HOW TO "GOD-LIKE" …
While the Thule society was increasingly determined by the political path of the "Third Reich," the branch of the "Vril Society", which became more and more independent, went its own way.
"VRIL", which derives from the Akkadian "vri-lL" = "like the highest divinity", means roughly as much as "godlike". And that is why, at the heart of the matter, it was also a matter of exploring the divinity and being like God, which means; Godly means to shape a new world in a new age.
The Vril philosophy or Vril theology (to speak of an ideology would be wrong) differed from the Thule and Nazi ideology in many respects. The difference can be brought to a simple denominator: The Vril society was essentially oriented on the other side.
But there were still many connecting points between Vril and Thule society. They both sought the secrets of the distant past:
Atlantis, Thule, the "Island of the Blessed" of the Gilgamesh - in the rocks of Heligoland they recognized their survival. Then the clock connection between Germany and Mesopotamia. But also ancient sanctuaries such as the exteriors or the Hausberg of Stronegg were subjects of joint research. Soon Hans Hörbiger's "Welteislehre" was added. In short, it became a collection point for unconventional ideas and views of various kinds.
And so it really does not come as a surprise if one of the most fantastic ideas ever imagined by humans in this circle on fertile ground: Dr. Schumann's idea of ..a "beyond-machine" …
THE 'OTHER SCIENCE'
They were Schumann and the Vril people - then still directly connected with the Thule society - who were planning to build a machine which they called "the machine behind". It was to be a machine for the "transmutation of matter-of-matter in extinction and back again." In short, a machine for overcoming space and time, of life and death; A machine with which one could visit "the worlds of the gods" in order to gain CERTAINITY OF THE ETERNAL TRUTH Sebottendorff had thought about the "Mani Sola" and with the help of the Holy Spear (Marduks / Odins) the way to the beyond The technician Dr. Schumann thought of doing things with technical means.
In December 1919, the innermost circle of the Thule and Vril Society met in an old forestery house in the Ramsau near Berchtesgaden. One of the main persons of this meeting was the medium Maria Orschić (Orsić) from Zagreb. She had brought two piles of described papers. The leaves of one of the piles showed the bizarre German Templar inscription, the other the transmissions in normal-literary writing. The content of these pages was entered and dictated in a medial way - in the "temple script" and in a language that was completely unknown to the medium. However, Maria Orschitsch thought it was an old Oriental language, and therefore had a connection with the "Panbabylonist" circle of friends (founded by Friedrich Delitzsch, Hugo Winckler, Peter Jensen, and others), who was a member of the Thule Circle.
(end quote)
This book comes from a group that formed around Wilhelm Landig:
>Landig was a former SS member who revived the ariosophical mythology of Thule. He coined the idea of the Black Sun, a substitute swastika and mythical source of energy. He was born on 20 December 1909.[1] He wrote the Thule trilogy Götzen gegen Thule, Wolfszeit um Thule and Rebellen für Thule – Das Erbe von Atlantis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landig_Group
Have you prayed to Ishtar, anon?
>all these asssmad christ cucks
turn the other cheek like a good goy
turn the other cheek like a good goy
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