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kaczynski2.pdf
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So what did he get right and what did he get wrong, /mlpol/? For those of you who have not read the manifesto I highly recommend reading it.
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I think he was right about over socialization and the psychology of the modern leftist. I don't think he was right about all technology making us less free. 3D printers and similar technology has the potential to make us less dependent on the system.
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i heard that name before but i never knew what this man did.
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He was the unibomber and he wrote the OP's attached pdf.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski
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>>140056
Although I haven't read all of it, his first lines makes me realise that the alt right isn't all that new.
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You should read his manifesto.
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>>140060
>has the potential

Given that the current trajectory of the system doesn't change dramatically there will be a sort of DRM on these machines when they get good enough to matter to make sure they operate only in the interest of the system. Meanwhile CNC mills and lathes are cheap enough for personal use and have been for a while. Despite producing better results with better materials, dependence on the system has only increased.

The main problem with his anti-technology stance is military. A society that falls too far behind in technology, whether intentionally or not, will be subjugated by another that has not.

His own experience with the government is a microcosm of this phenomena. As cool as the wooden bombs were from a symbolic perspective, they were not a threat to the system because their message fell on deaf ears. Normies only understand violence. They are not anatomically equipped to understand symbolism, freedom, and ideas. They understand that the government has way better bombs. Appealing to the intellect of the population is a losing battle. We saw it with Snowden and we're seeing it again with Facebook.

It's not a matter of tactics. It's a matter of normies don't have an intellect to appeal to. Uncle Ted has an IQ of about 170. that's around 1 in 10 thousand or more. Half the population has a double digit IQ. He's practically trying to communicate with another species. He'd have as much luck telling greyhounds not to chase the rabbit.
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>Given that the current trajectory of the system doesn't change dramatically there will be a sort of DRM on these machines when they get good enough to matter to make sure they operate only in the interest of the system.
If 3d printers reach the point where they could make new 3d printers before the system can crack down on it then there will be no stopping them.
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I covered that.

>Meanwhile CNC mills and lathes are cheap enough for personal use and have been for a while. Despite producing better results with better materials, dependence on the system has only increased.


You can already make a CNC mill at home. Like right now you could start making a CNC mill and in less than a month connect it to a computer and start turning blocks of aluminum in to M16 upper and lower receivers. This has been the state of things for at least 10 years. Dependence on the system has only increased in this time.

The problem comes from viewing society as something we can alter at will to change its relationship with technology. Society is an emergent chaotic phenomena that is a result of its components (people), its reactions to itself, and its reactions to its environment. The overwhelming majority of the components are shit. They deliberately seek to increase the interdependence between components and the system as a whole. They, mostly through ignorance, alter the environment to reduce the likelihood of human happiness, fulfillment, and contentment. Those that do find the will to decouple themselves from the system find that the system declares them enemies as happened with Waco or the system simply steps on their snek in pursuit of other goals as happened with Uncle Ted.

For 3d printing to reduce dependence on the system would require that the components chose that goal and could devise a way to achieve it. In addition it would require a way to stop the system from interfering with these efforts. This as far as I can see requires the creation of another system capable of imposing its will when necessary on the other system.

If it succeeds those who construct it therefore become dependent on this system to keep them decoupled from the previous system. By design however this system is capable of imposing its will on others because that was its entire purpose. However they have merely constructed a lossy copy of the system. Going back to the original component quality we see that this system is vulnerable to the same mind viruses as the previous system. Those who original sought to return to the natural state of man have created a system that is even better at imposing its will on others. It imposed its will on the previous system after all. This is what I call the anarchist paradox.

Are we fucked? It sure looks that way. The founding fathers said something about the need to water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants every few decades. Basically we are doomed to tyranny or civil war every generation or two. It has been 160 years since the civil war and I can't tell if the good guys even won. The tree is wilting. The (((press))) is openly advocating ignoring the 2A and is starting to push repealing it altogether. 3d printers aren't going to be the irrigation system for the tree of liberty.
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