Hi Anon!
Regarding the current situation, even if you live in the risky places ( South Korea, Japan, US Pacific Islands, and the horrible west coast of the US, and some Vancouver ) I do believe it would be wise to give you some tips to prepare to a nuclear attack, and consequently a third world war.
You're smart so you will make it, don't worry, most will die or starve, and you will see a lot of dead people and ugly things. You won't be able to save the world, only wait and survive your best. For this, there will be a few things you will need.
- Iodine. It can be found in red wine, and table salt, if you live in the islands and eat a lot of fish you are fine. This is good for your health, and actually absorbs and prevents a lot of radiation-related cancers. It's a chemistry thing.
- I hope you have at least a handgun and ammunition, or preferably a rifle. It will be important because the world will be different from your actual comfort and everyday problems. There will be chaos. You're here to survive.
- Keep canned food somewhere. Gamma rays will not contaminate it. Only fallout and isotopes that will contaminate water and soil around the targeted area.
- If you have important files you want to keep, burn them on CD-ROM or DVD. All magnetic supports will be blanked with a simple EM pulse, and certainly flash and other integrated circuits.
- Keep your valuable files on optical support. You can save this PNG of me, but think also of saving most of your digital photos. Blank discs are cheap and you have no excuse. Keep them in a box away from the windows. And clean your room sometimes.
- Your phone will also be useless, and the only thing that could work would be some old AM or shortwave radio to know what's going on. If by luck you have kept your grandpa's antic tube amateur radio, or a 80's transistor-based transceiver, it will function if you can organize with people. Know basic electronics, from a 12V battery you can power a lot of things.
- Vintage cars will work, anything with electronics however will be dead.
- Books. Lot of books. Especially about medicine, it's not rocket science here. About technology, and other nerdy things you will be required to know. You will have a lot of time on your hands, don't waste it on crying, it's not your fault.
- A basement or a underground will help you survive if you are outdoors in the city. Even the sewers are preferable than being burned alive and disintegrated.
- Gasmasks might help filtering some fallout contaminated particles if really you must go outside, but really don't.
- Swiss Army Knife. This will certainly save your life on multiple occasions.
- A Maglite with a LED mod will be solid and allow you to save 80-90% of batteries. This mod is about 10bux on eBay and it's quite useful.
- Meds of all kind and a complete medkit will also be essential for you and your family.
Also, common sense will be your greatest ally. Now in regards of politics things will be very different from what you expected. You will feel alone and without information. You will not wait after the government. You don't want the FEMA or the army to take care of you or even kill you for not following their orders. Follow your instincts if you want to survive and move in the countryside, away from the fallouts when you can.
If I think of anything else, or if others have ideas let's share what are your options.
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At some point you have to stay in a shelther for at minimum one week and half. Plan to pack enough food to stay safe for about two weeks. Take some time to turn on your old analog radio from times to times and find a station that will transmit info.
The previous alert was certainly not a mistake since the same alert happened in Japan, they are also if not more concerned by the situation, and the UN is completely useless. I would even say the UN currently want to let things go on, but do nothing.
If the US and Japan attacked first, China would strike back. This is why it haven't been done so far.
Normally with Trump it's not like the NWO will be the issue of this conflict, understand by this, exploiting a catastrophe to abolish human rights and install a fascist, socialist regime where you have no property. He will want to help citizens of America first, but that doesn't means the conflict will be over, that event will have triggered a shitty situation with China and the US.
(I'm confident he will do the necessary, even Russia will side with the US, SK and Japan. On the continuity and complexity of this conflict, this is a mystery. we ignore the role the EU will play there.)
In spite of this there are chances this will lead to a civil war. I don't want to imagine how the millenials and the left will react, they will do all the necessary to blame this conflict on Trump. Hillary's dems and McCain and friends will do the necessary to organize a coup and take down Trump, then you have the regime I discussed about. Things will be different and the conflict will last for a long, long time. Most of the left and partisans will form into some kind of army, and will want to make the rules. Under the motto of acting for your safety they will take down every freedom. That can be very quick. Enchanted by television and social media, the same old regime in power will support the new leading ideology.
That's what the NWO is. It's not Alex Jone's illuminati shit. You might have better examples about the rise to power of Allende, the Communists in Russia, the population replacement in Europe or fascism in Italy. History is always the best teacher.
The previous alert was certainly not a mistake since the same alert happened in Japan, they are also if not more concerned by the situation, and the UN is completely useless. I would even say the UN currently want to let things go on, but do nothing.
If the US and Japan attacked first, China would strike back. This is why it haven't been done so far.
Normally with Trump it's not like the NWO will be the issue of this conflict, understand by this, exploiting a catastrophe to abolish human rights and install a fascist, socialist regime where you have no property. He will want to help citizens of America first, but that doesn't means the conflict will be over, that event will have triggered a shitty situation with China and the US.
(I'm confident he will do the necessary, even Russia will side with the US, SK and Japan. On the continuity and complexity of this conflict, this is a mystery. we ignore the role the EU will play there.)
In spite of this there are chances this will lead to a civil war. I don't want to imagine how the millenials and the left will react, they will do all the necessary to blame this conflict on Trump. Hillary's dems and McCain and friends will do the necessary to organize a coup and take down Trump, then you have the regime I discussed about. Things will be different and the conflict will last for a long, long time. Most of the left and partisans will form into some kind of army, and will want to make the rules. Under the motto of acting for your safety they will take down every freedom. That can be very quick. Enchanted by television and social media, the same old regime in power will support the new leading ideology.
That's what the NWO is. It's not Alex Jone's illuminati shit. You might have better examples about the rise to power of Allende, the Communists in Russia, the population replacement in Europe or fascism in Italy. History is always the best teacher.
>>107683
>- Iodine. It can be found in red wine, and table salt, if you live in the islands and eat a lot of fish you are fine. This is good for your health, and actually absorbs and prevents a lot of radiation-related cancers. It's a chemistry thing.
My understanding is that the issue with iodine and radiation is due to how the thyroid absorbs the iodine that you consume.
Nuclear detonations release radioactive iodine into the environment. Once in your system, the radioactive iodine makes its way to your thyroid and stays there and eventually may cause long term health problems like thyroid cancer. However the thyroid's capacity to absorb iodine is finite. If you can preemptively saturate the thyroid with non-radioactive iodine, then any radioactive iodine that enters your system will fail to be absorbed by the thyroid and subsequently will pass out of the body in relatively short order with the rest of your bodily waste.
>- Iodine. It can be found in red wine, and table salt, if you live in the islands and eat a lot of fish you are fine. This is good for your health, and actually absorbs and prevents a lot of radiation-related cancers. It's a chemistry thing.
My understanding is that the issue with iodine and radiation is due to how the thyroid absorbs the iodine that you consume.
Nuclear detonations release radioactive iodine into the environment. Once in your system, the radioactive iodine makes its way to your thyroid and stays there and eventually may cause long term health problems like thyroid cancer. However the thyroid's capacity to absorb iodine is finite. If you can preemptively saturate the thyroid with non-radioactive iodine, then any radioactive iodine that enters your system will fail to be absorbed by the thyroid and subsequently will pass out of the body in relatively short order with the rest of your bodily waste.
>>107683
> A basement or a underground will help you survive if you are outdoors in the city. Even the sewers are preferable than being burned alive and disintegrated.
Also consider other options that may be native to your location. In example a quarry can be a good source of shelter. Quarries usually have deep tunnels running under the earth, which can provide excellent protection.
> A basement or a underground will help you survive if you are outdoors in the city. Even the sewers are preferable than being burned alive and disintegrated.
Also consider other options that may be native to your location. In example a quarry can be a good source of shelter. Quarries usually have deep tunnels running under the earth, which can provide excellent protection.
>>107700
Even if you can keep it out of your thyroid it will still cause damage to your internals while inside you, and it's not the only form of radioactive isotope you'll be dealing with, nor even the most dangerous.
You'll want to map out all urban centers and military installations and avoid them like the plague regardless of how well prepared you might be. None of the countries with a nuclear arsenal will admit to having ERWs, but I guarantee you they all have them.
Even if you can keep it out of your thyroid it will still cause damage to your internals while inside you, and it's not the only form of radioactive isotope you'll be dealing with, nor even the most dangerous.
You'll want to map out all urban centers and military installations and avoid them like the plague regardless of how well prepared you might be. None of the countries with a nuclear arsenal will admit to having ERWs, but I guarantee you they all have them.
>>107700
That's how it works, yes. Also wine contains a bit of stable, non-radioactive strontium. This will also absorb particles but your body will eliminate this normally.
>>107704
Of course, in fact being irradiated reduces your immune system. You might end sterile and immunodeficient like someone who have AIDS. This means don't get cold, stay where you are, stay clean, don't get an infection. Radiation "poisoning" anyways changes your chemistry, that's ionization, if you vomit, that's because the acids in your stomach got extra ions and the composition changes. It also have an effect on another acid that's more worrying: the DNA. and if you received some dose, you might die of multiple cancers in the months or years to come.
>>107702
excellent suggestion, again if you live nearby one that will be very helpful. Jump in Grandpa's Ford Pickup or the VW minivan and rush to the nearest one if you can.
Any concrete building or church will be a good protection, but in no case you have to be outside whenever you receive an alert. Even if it's a false alarm there are reasons for it, and it forces people to train themselves and be ready.
What remains complex will be, as always the outcome of the war. As a president Trump will have to fight back and the international community should say he did a right job. Instead I bet the media and his opponents will accuse him of having provoked this, everything will be done to make Trump the guilty one. Any reason will be good to eject him, and even get Russia in the war, implying the BRICS helped DPRK maintaining itself, and China-Russia-NK-Syria are part of the axis of evil and must be destroyed. The war will take a certain turn, alliances will be formed, countries and people will be even more divided.
Russia will be accused of having had an impact on the fall of the European Union and return to nationalism of the EU countries, at the edge of civil war. Many presidents of EU nations will give up, new elections will happen, etc. But instead of blaming themselves they will enjoy the situation to blame it on Russia.
This is a bit like the WW2 scenario : the Us are on a pacific conflict, the Europe is on a land conflict, even if Europeans ( I'm European actually ) does NOT want to be at war with Russia, neither Russians, but all of this is a history of who will dominate Eurasia, the fact Putin is being who he is alone triggers Merkel pretty much.
KJU knows this. KJU is not crazy and knows he's got China to cover his back, China, as the factory of the World. All American and European companies gets their shit made in China, they are the ones to blame for making it the arrogant superpower it is today.
Same for India. All the software and offices are based there. It's your money. It's your job, but also they hold one thing:
The debt.
The WWIII will be essentially caused by one thing: the fact America owes China a huge part of its debt. That's stupid, no? But you can thank the banks. The Rotschilds, and all these fine people for making this situation possible. A debt that doesn't make any sense but well.
Japan will be the cause of how China will be involved. There's already huge tensions between these two.
The banks and corporations are the true responsible for this escalation and the internationalization of the growing world war, the opposite of what people want, but keep in mind the governments are not much in power, and everything exist to make people change their mind. Propaganda, lies, false flag attacks, anything will be done, and the chain of events will escalate very quickly, in terms of days, if not a week. The WW3's exchanges will be short, then there will be a war of military occupation, the EUROGENDFOR will maintain Europe like it is. Russia will also be involved in some way, might not make the right decisions but will be forced to defend itself. People will rebel against Putin the same way the Americans will be told to remove Trump. The conflict will be global, and we must know the future will not be like the one we used to know.
The only difference is Russia, Poland and Germany still have a rather fresh memory of what Communism is like, what the millennials and younger generation ignore, and will want a radical regime to sanction the current ones. That's the nerve of the war; and they will follow any politician backed by the banks who will give them these promises.
Mass media will have internationalized, globalized the direction of the war, determining what is the truth, who are the bad guys and who are the good guys in real time - because this will be a very complex war. Every country and bank will try to defend its interests. China, Russia, England, EU, USA, Canada, Japan…
Whatever will happen, the only one you will have to trust here is yourself. Trust what you know about the current situation, and survive, to testify. That's the most important thing, because the future will be very, very different. And hence the reason why I encourage you to archive a lot of text, docs, screencaps, e-books, on some DVD-R and put them on a box somewhere.
Other thing to do after the alert, remove your laptop's battery, and put it on a metallic case, take it with you in the basement, you will have a chance to keep all kind of things you have saved.
This will be important in 20, 30, 50 years. Lot of information might even be illegal. Mentioning people like Assange, etc. will brand you as a dissident, a terrorist, an enemy forgotten by the transition regime.
Of course I hope nothing of these ever happen, but in the eventuality, you have to stay woke, and only trust in yourself.
You'll make it.
Also don't forget to pick some bottled water.
That's how it works, yes. Also wine contains a bit of stable, non-radioactive strontium. This will also absorb particles but your body will eliminate this normally.
>>107704
Of course, in fact being irradiated reduces your immune system. You might end sterile and immunodeficient like someone who have AIDS. This means don't get cold, stay where you are, stay clean, don't get an infection. Radiation "poisoning" anyways changes your chemistry, that's ionization, if you vomit, that's because the acids in your stomach got extra ions and the composition changes. It also have an effect on another acid that's more worrying: the DNA. and if you received some dose, you might die of multiple cancers in the months or years to come.
>>107702
excellent suggestion, again if you live nearby one that will be very helpful. Jump in Grandpa's Ford Pickup or the VW minivan and rush to the nearest one if you can.
Any concrete building or church will be a good protection, but in no case you have to be outside whenever you receive an alert. Even if it's a false alarm there are reasons for it, and it forces people to train themselves and be ready.
What remains complex will be, as always the outcome of the war. As a president Trump will have to fight back and the international community should say he did a right job. Instead I bet the media and his opponents will accuse him of having provoked this, everything will be done to make Trump the guilty one. Any reason will be good to eject him, and even get Russia in the war, implying the BRICS helped DPRK maintaining itself, and China-Russia-NK-Syria are part of the axis of evil and must be destroyed. The war will take a certain turn, alliances will be formed, countries and people will be even more divided.
Russia will be accused of having had an impact on the fall of the European Union and return to nationalism of the EU countries, at the edge of civil war. Many presidents of EU nations will give up, new elections will happen, etc. But instead of blaming themselves they will enjoy the situation to blame it on Russia.
This is a bit like the WW2 scenario : the Us are on a pacific conflict, the Europe is on a land conflict, even if Europeans ( I'm European actually ) does NOT want to be at war with Russia, neither Russians, but all of this is a history of who will dominate Eurasia, the fact Putin is being who he is alone triggers Merkel pretty much.
KJU knows this. KJU is not crazy and knows he's got China to cover his back, China, as the factory of the World. All American and European companies gets their shit made in China, they are the ones to blame for making it the arrogant superpower it is today.
Same for India. All the software and offices are based there. It's your money. It's your job, but also they hold one thing:
The debt.
The WWIII will be essentially caused by one thing: the fact America owes China a huge part of its debt. That's stupid, no? But you can thank the banks. The Rotschilds, and all these fine people for making this situation possible. A debt that doesn't make any sense but well.
Japan will be the cause of how China will be involved. There's already huge tensions between these two.
The banks and corporations are the true responsible for this escalation and the internationalization of the growing world war, the opposite of what people want, but keep in mind the governments are not much in power, and everything exist to make people change their mind. Propaganda, lies, false flag attacks, anything will be done, and the chain of events will escalate very quickly, in terms of days, if not a week. The WW3's exchanges will be short, then there will be a war of military occupation, the EUROGENDFOR will maintain Europe like it is. Russia will also be involved in some way, might not make the right decisions but will be forced to defend itself. People will rebel against Putin the same way the Americans will be told to remove Trump. The conflict will be global, and we must know the future will not be like the one we used to know.
The only difference is Russia, Poland and Germany still have a rather fresh memory of what Communism is like, what the millennials and younger generation ignore, and will want a radical regime to sanction the current ones. That's the nerve of the war; and they will follow any politician backed by the banks who will give them these promises.
Mass media will have internationalized, globalized the direction of the war, determining what is the truth, who are the bad guys and who are the good guys in real time - because this will be a very complex war. Every country and bank will try to defend its interests. China, Russia, England, EU, USA, Canada, Japan…
Whatever will happen, the only one you will have to trust here is yourself. Trust what you know about the current situation, and survive, to testify. That's the most important thing, because the future will be very, very different. And hence the reason why I encourage you to archive a lot of text, docs, screencaps, e-books, on some DVD-R and put them on a box somewhere.
Other thing to do after the alert, remove your laptop's battery, and put it on a metallic case, take it with you in the basement, you will have a chance to keep all kind of things you have saved.
This will be important in 20, 30, 50 years. Lot of information might even be illegal. Mentioning people like Assange, etc. will brand you as a dissident, a terrorist, an enemy forgotten by the transition regime.
Of course I hope nothing of these ever happen, but in the eventuality, you have to stay woke, and only trust in yourself.
You'll make it.
Also don't forget to pick some bottled water.
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>>107713
Together, China and Taiwan own about 1,355 billion dollars of American debt. The total money owed to foreign countries is about 6,343 billion dollars. America doesn't owe foreign debt, it owes it to international bankers, rothschilds, the IMF, etc. Starting a war over ~2 billion dollars isn't really worth it, especially since how much of china's market is exported to the USA.
Even forbearing Nuclear war, I hardly think the entirety of society is going to collapse into some kind of Orwellian Dystopia. Propaganda will always be there, but society will continue, China does not have the nuclear capability to completely wipe the USA off the map.
Plus if Siege is to be believed that'll just give Americans the opportunity to transition into a proper Gov't.
Together, China and Taiwan own about 1,355 billion dollars of American debt. The total money owed to foreign countries is about 6,343 billion dollars. America doesn't owe foreign debt, it owes it to international bankers, rothschilds, the IMF, etc. Starting a war over ~2 billion dollars isn't really worth it, especially since how much of china's market is exported to the USA.
Even forbearing Nuclear war, I hardly think the entirety of society is going to collapse into some kind of Orwellian Dystopia. Propaganda will always be there, but society will continue, China does not have the nuclear capability to completely wipe the USA off the map.
Plus if Siege is to be believed that'll just give Americans the opportunity to transition into a proper Gov't.
>>107704
Correct. The intent is to mitigate the damage from radiation sources that you cannot avoid. By no means should one consider themselves safe to carelessly expose themselves to nuclear fallout simply because they've taken some iodine.
Correct. The intent is to mitigate the damage from radiation sources that you cannot avoid. By no means should one consider themselves safe to carelessly expose themselves to nuclear fallout simply because they've taken some iodine.
prepping oc when?
Does anyone have any infographics or instructions on how to convert a basement into a fallout shelter? I'm more concerned about protection from radiation than anything else.
I have a .22 rifle and 2000 rounds of ammunition for it, is that good enough for hunting once the first few weeks pass and it's relatively safe to go outside again? Or should I invest in another weapon?
>>107773
Against most critters, you'd be fine. If you can, invest in either a bow or crossbow. They make less noise, you can reuse the arrows, and you can theoretically make your own ammo. 2000 rounds can go surprisingly fast.
Against most critters, you'd be fine. If you can, invest in either a bow or crossbow. They make less noise, you can reuse the arrows, and you can theoretically make your own ammo. 2000 rounds can go surprisingly fast.
>>107773
>Or should I invest in another weapon?
depends on if you plan on doing more than just hunting and of course WHAT you are hunting. 2,000 rounds is for example what I go through in a weekend practicing my aim.
Now don't get me wrong a .22lr can kill a man or deer if you hit something vital or "kill it with bug bites" but that second one will cause you to use quite a bit of ammo up. I'd invest like this anon >>107779 said in a bow or even a slingshot. Modern slingshots are very effective against small game, or if necessary can be used for self defense.
>Or should I invest in another weapon?
depends on if you plan on doing more than just hunting and of course WHAT you are hunting. 2,000 rounds is for example what I go through in a weekend practicing my aim.
Now don't get me wrong a .22lr can kill a man or deer if you hit something vital or "kill it with bug bites" but that second one will cause you to use quite a bit of ammo up. I'd invest like this anon >>107779 said in a bow or even a slingshot. Modern slingshots are very effective against small game, or if necessary can be used for self defense.
>>107773
I would say to always invest in more. You should have a pistol for defense and emergencies and a shotgun for hunting foul and defending against raids on your land. Then you can upgrade to those evil, scary semi-auto weapons when you save up those shekels.
I would say to always invest in more. You should have a pistol for defense and emergencies and a shotgun for hunting foul and defending against raids on your land. Then you can upgrade to those evil, scary semi-auto weapons when you save up those shekels.
Honestly, I'm screwed if anyone orders a nuclear strike. I'm only a few miles away from a massive coal-fired power plant, and everyone knows that infrastructure like that is going to be among the first targets.
>>107788
In the event of a full-on nuclear war almost nobody will survive. Only the few that are self-sufficient in the wilderness have any realistic chance of prolonged survival. I does not matter where you are, you will probably be killed one way or another due to the nukes.
In the event of a full-on nuclear war almost nobody will survive. Only the few that are self-sufficient in the wilderness have any realistic chance of prolonged survival. I does not matter where you are, you will probably be killed one way or another due to the nukes.
Burgers should own an AR-15. Right now they're the cheapest that they're ever going to be. Essentially all of the firearm manufacturers thought that Hillary was going to win and that there was going to be a massive run on guns before she could ban them. Now they're still desperately trying to sell their excess inventory off.
>>107788
you have to remember the Norkies are the ones firing of nukes. (or threatening to) So you have to take into account of their range and what THEIR target priorities would be and where that specific location rates on that scale. And who knows what the political landscape would be after a Nuking. Its already a bit of a cluster fuck now why not have something ready just in case?
>>107790
Honestly I still need to pick one up. Even if its just a Bushmaster.
you have to remember the Norkies are the ones firing of nukes. (or threatening to) So you have to take into account of their range and what THEIR target priorities would be and where that specific location rates on that scale. And who knows what the political landscape would be after a Nuking. Its already a bit of a cluster fuck now why not have something ready just in case?
>>107790
Honestly I still need to pick one up. Even if its just a Bushmaster.
>>107791
I still have the opinion that NK won't initiate a nuclear strike. Kim isn't stupid. Such a strike would be the quickest way for him to lose power. China has already said that they won't come to NK's aid if NK fires the first shot. I think NK will continue their current strategy of beating their chest and making threats to try and stay relevant enough for their demands to be heard and taken into consideration. I don't see them going on the offensive until outside events conspire to remove US influence from the theater.
On the other hand, I am concerned about malicious forces staging a false flag and using NK as an easy scapegoat.
I still have the opinion that NK won't initiate a nuclear strike. Kim isn't stupid. Such a strike would be the quickest way for him to lose power. China has already said that they won't come to NK's aid if NK fires the first shot. I think NK will continue their current strategy of beating their chest and making threats to try and stay relevant enough for their demands to be heard and taken into consideration. I don't see them going on the offensive until outside events conspire to remove US influence from the theater.
On the other hand, I am concerned about malicious forces staging a false flag and using NK as an easy scapegoat.
>>107797
that's a possibility though one that would be difficult to make without obvious signs. But even then they too would (or should) still try to think with the same pattern of thought in mind. Even if we burgers jump on the chance to take out NK because of a strike from anyone having something and not needing it is far better than needing it and not having
that's a possibility though one that would be difficult to make without obvious signs. But even then they too would (or should) still try to think with the same pattern of thought in mind. Even if we burgers jump on the chance to take out NK because of a strike from anyone having something and not needing it is far better than needing it and not having
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>>107797
Indeed, and clearly it's not Trump who will decide of launching a first strike, too much to loose. Kim isn't stupid, and nuclear weapons are a mean of propaganda.
On the other hand Koreans have nothing to loose. The only thing triggering war there could only come from China-Japanese relations and north versus south Korea.
On the other hand, South Korea isn't a good example, it's basically Samsung Megacorp country. if capitalism was totalitarianism, SK is the perfect example on how it would look like, even Ayn Rand would vomit.
>>107773
You need a gun for defense, unless you really hit the head or vital parts with a 22. it will hurt a human but is meant to kill small animals. And you don't want to kill small animals.
>>107788
China has 300 nukes, this is what is needed for the US, they won't bother taking down a coal mine. They will keep this arsenal for important targets.
This means
- First strike will consist of exploding nuclear missiles in high atmosphere to cut down all communications and radars. (EMP)
- Missile defense bases will be the first target.
- Command centers ( NORAD, The Pentagon )
- Datacenters, may it be Google, Amazon, SWIFT, MS, Oracle to take down the economy.
- Military bases (Airforce, Army, Marines, Navy…)
- Military or commercial ports
- Large cities and economical centers, really for the sake of it.
On the later, eventually a SLBM or bomber strike on petroleum and chemical plants, which might involve coal mines. But at this point there's so many they wouldn't even care about using nukes, just conventional weapons.
Anyways if the NK launch the first strike, it will essentially be the nearby targets on range. Japan and South Korea. And maybe Hawaii or anything on the reach of their missiles.
What has been worrying is how the antimissile defense did not intercept the missile that flew over Japan. Test or not you have to take down these missiles.
This makes me wonder, why the order haven't been given? Japan purchased PATRIOT and THAAD missile systems from the US and a shitton of precision radars from Thales and co. to secure this. Which leads me to think we're missing a part of the plot.
Someone wants to let Korea believe they have a chance to make disasters and be proud of destroying the evil capitalist menace.
I don't want to believe in some kind of silly conspiracy theory, but there's a lot of obscure points, like in the ignition of every conflict. We know (((they))) would love to see it.
>>107683
Move away from large urban areas if you can. Places like Southern California and New York City will become a bloodbath if society crumbles, because resources will become scarce/non-existent within days.
Maintain at least a years worth of emergency supplies. Mormons are a bit crazy, but on this they're spot on. This should include more than just food, you should have hygiene, medical supplies, propane/gasoline/wood fuel, and a means to procure/purify drinking water.
Get a weapon that ammunition is plentiful in the country you live in. USA is obviously going to be an AR-15. You should get your hands on as many calibers weapons as you can so that you can use any bullets you may come across.
Make sure your emergency preparedness is a secret. If shit hits the fan and people know you have things, you could be in some serious trouble.
I honestly see the likelihood of such a scenario to be slim, but you never know.
Move away from large urban areas if you can. Places like Southern California and New York City will become a bloodbath if society crumbles, because resources will become scarce/non-existent within days.
Maintain at least a years worth of emergency supplies. Mormons are a bit crazy, but on this they're spot on. This should include more than just food, you should have hygiene, medical supplies, propane/gasoline/wood fuel, and a means to procure/purify drinking water.
Get a weapon that ammunition is plentiful in the country you live in. USA is obviously going to be an AR-15. You should get your hands on as many calibers weapons as you can so that you can use any bullets you may come across.
Make sure your emergency preparedness is a secret. If shit hits the fan and people know you have things, you could be in some serious trouble.
I honestly see the likelihood of such a scenario to be slim, but you never know.
>>108028
>Make sure your emergency preparedness is a secret. If shit hits the fan and people know you have things, you could be in some serious trouble.
This is true, but it is the bit that hurts me the most. I want those around me to be prepared. I want to share my knowledge and common sense. I want my friends and neighbors to be secure and safe in a disaster and not imperiled and praying for a savior. A prepared community won't be as gripped by desperation and turmoil after a disaster as a starving community.
But nobody takes it seriously. Disasters are things that happen on TV. If they remember anything, it's that you're the guy who is prepared. The guy that probably has food and a fire.
The thought that trying to help them before they need saving can imperil you and your loved ones makes me sick to my stomach. Worse still, the facade must be maintained even during the disaster. An observant party would notice and wonder why you don't scramble for the government handouts like every one else. You need to put on a show of being as desperate as the shortsighted fools around you. I pray that I'll never need to deprive a family in need of supplies merely to maintain the illusion that I am also unprepared.
Another bit of deception. If you intend to maintain a store of silver for barter once local society starts picking itself back up and trade is reestablished, consider using old tarnished coins. Old dirty coins are something that you could have presumably found in your grandfather's attic. But someone may assume that a pristine coin is one of many that was stockpiled before the disaster.
>Make sure your emergency preparedness is a secret. If shit hits the fan and people know you have things, you could be in some serious trouble.
This is true, but it is the bit that hurts me the most. I want those around me to be prepared. I want to share my knowledge and common sense. I want my friends and neighbors to be secure and safe in a disaster and not imperiled and praying for a savior. A prepared community won't be as gripped by desperation and turmoil after a disaster as a starving community.
But nobody takes it seriously. Disasters are things that happen on TV. If they remember anything, it's that you're the guy who is prepared. The guy that probably has food and a fire.
The thought that trying to help them before they need saving can imperil you and your loved ones makes me sick to my stomach. Worse still, the facade must be maintained even during the disaster. An observant party would notice and wonder why you don't scramble for the government handouts like every one else. You need to put on a show of being as desperate as the shortsighted fools around you. I pray that I'll never need to deprive a family in need of supplies merely to maintain the illusion that I am also unprepared.
Another bit of deception. If you intend to maintain a store of silver for barter once local society starts picking itself back up and trade is reestablished, consider using old tarnished coins. Old dirty coins are something that you could have presumably found in your grandfather's attic. But someone may assume that a pristine coin is one of many that was stockpiled before the disaster.
>>108044
Share the information with people you trust of course. What I mean is don't go rambling on to strangers about your preparedness.
Share the information with people you trust of course. What I mean is don't go rambling on to strangers about your preparedness.
How valuable do you think a 3d printer and a laptop kept in a faraday cage would be? Or a furnace capable of melting copper?
>>108361
Gamma rays even at a certain dose will fry all/most CMOS chips and flash ROMs, but motors and resistors will work, it can be fixed.
I like this thread, there's a Russian OP who wants American citizens to be ready and survive a nuclear attack, Russians too were under a nuclear threat from the US til the early 90's. That says a lot.
Gamma rays even at a certain dose will fry all/most CMOS chips and flash ROMs, but motors and resistors will work, it can be fixed.
I like this thread, there's a Russian OP who wants American citizens to be ready and survive a nuclear attack, Russians too were under a nuclear threat from the US til the early 90's. That says a lot.
>>108363
>Men are dropping out of society
>Low birthrates
>Slowing economic global growth
>Increasing number of geopolitical hot spots
>Migrants flooding in
>Increasing polarization on both sides of the political spectrum
>Massive youth unemployment
>TPTB cracking down on speech everywhere
>Half the population is on some kind of pill
>All western nations in a shitload of debt
>Entire classes of people dependent on welfare states
>Entire economy is a bubble
Something has to give eventually. This can't go on forever.
>Men are dropping out of society
>Low birthrates
>Slowing economic global growth
>Increasing number of geopolitical hot spots
>Migrants flooding in
>Increasing polarization on both sides of the political spectrum
>Massive youth unemployment
>TPTB cracking down on speech everywhere
>Half the population is on some kind of pill
>All western nations in a shitload of debt
>Entire classes of people dependent on welfare states
>Entire economy is a bubble
Something has to give eventually. This can't go on forever.
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>>108440
Yep. and I think there's a point of non return, at any epoch, in any society. There's no values anywhere, a world under the control of TV, drugs, social media and mass consumption while another part is growing, expanding and replacing the population. Governments and banks forces this economical model that is already a catastrophe.
This is what will lead to a war. It's a bit comparable to a tooth ache, it gets infected sometimes, but you don't wanna get an appointment to the dentist. Then it becomes the Grand Canyon, and you take painkillers, you can't eat anything with sugar and think it'll be okay, because your dentist is a true barbarian and traumatized you as a kid, but the infection is growing. Soon or late you go to that dentist again. It hurts even more. He's out of anesthetics because your case is now an emergency and he finished the last bottle of vodka. He's drilling in 2, 3 teeth, fill the cavities with lead. Hit the nerves. You're about to pass out. You lost a small part of yourself there, but it's fixed. It brought you back childhood memories but he's done a good job." there you go! take care of your teeth, brush regularly and don't eat too much snacks!"
Yep. and I think there's a point of non return, at any epoch, in any society. There's no values anywhere, a world under the control of TV, drugs, social media and mass consumption while another part is growing, expanding and replacing the population. Governments and banks forces this economical model that is already a catastrophe.
This is what will lead to a war. It's a bit comparable to a tooth ache, it gets infected sometimes, but you don't wanna get an appointment to the dentist. Then it becomes the Grand Canyon, and you take painkillers, you can't eat anything with sugar and think it'll be okay, because your dentist is a true barbarian and traumatized you as a kid, but the infection is growing. Soon or late you go to that dentist again. It hurts even more. He's out of anesthetics because your case is now an emergency and he finished the last bottle of vodka. He's drilling in 2, 3 teeth, fill the cavities with lead. Hit the nerves. You're about to pass out. You lost a small part of yourself there, but it's fixed. It brought you back childhood memories but he's done a good job." there you go! take care of your teeth, brush regularly and don't eat too much snacks!"
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There's something else you shouldn't neglect, if you have pets, keep them preciously. Don't sacrifice them or eat them. That's not worth it, also you have canned tuna, beans, and more in reserve.
- Cats have a good instinct and will fight pest for you. They can sense things you can't imagine. Cats will be precious in a world that's different from the one you know. You can really trust in their behavior and hearing. If there's a danger or someone closing in, they're good at a lot of things.
- Same for dogs, dogs will also defend you at all cost. If you can, adopt or buy a German Shepherd, a Malinois, or a Husky.
Pets will help you not feel lonely in the worst times, you'll need them more than they will need you. They will attack when needed, and just like cats you can trust their instincts and senses.
- Us horsies! Since there's no other vehicles, no fuel, you'll know how important it is to have them, we live in big countries. same for agriculture and everything, horses will be there for you when it comes to travel and farming. All they need is some grass, fresh water, apples, and friendship. Horses won't get you lost.
Something else I was thinking of was a notebook, and a pen. You won't have a computer, or a calculator or anything. A A5 or A6 format Moleskine or similar might be useful for you to take notes, leave messages, or even draw stuff to spend time. That will help not losing your mind.
>>108434
We can live with all kind of weapons, it becomes dangerous when one points any on your direction. I don't want to stir fear, but everyone should be ready.
- Cats have a good instinct and will fight pest for you. They can sense things you can't imagine. Cats will be precious in a world that's different from the one you know. You can really trust in their behavior and hearing. If there's a danger or someone closing in, they're good at a lot of things.
- Same for dogs, dogs will also defend you at all cost. If you can, adopt or buy a German Shepherd, a Malinois, or a Husky.
Pets will help you not feel lonely in the worst times, you'll need them more than they will need you. They will attack when needed, and just like cats you can trust their instincts and senses.
- Us horsies! Since there's no other vehicles, no fuel, you'll know how important it is to have them, we live in big countries. same for agriculture and everything, horses will be there for you when it comes to travel and farming. All they need is some grass, fresh water, apples, and friendship. Horses won't get you lost.
Something else I was thinking of was a notebook, and a pen. You won't have a computer, or a calculator or anything. A A5 or A6 format Moleskine or similar might be useful for you to take notes, leave messages, or even draw stuff to spend time. That will help not losing your mind.
>>108434
We can live with all kind of weapons, it becomes dangerous when one points any on your direction. I don't want to stir fear, but everyone should be ready.
>>108732
Keep food storage for pets as well. Kibble is easy to store, you just need the space.
Also everyone should get fit. At the very least train cardio, but strength is important. The weak and the fat will be the first to perish if society goes bottom up.
Keep food storage for pets as well. Kibble is easy to store, you just need the space.
Also everyone should get fit. At the very least train cardio, but strength is important. The weak and the fat will be the first to perish if society goes bottom up.
>>108732
>so what do you want for dinner tonight? should we open another can of beans?
>No, I'm not really hungry, I ate a couple hours ago
>wait, where's Mittens?
>Yeah, about that…
>so what do you want for dinner tonight? should we open another can of beans?
>No, I'm not really hungry, I ate a couple hours ago
>wait, where's Mittens?
>Yeah, about that…
>>108914
Never. Such levels of barbarism and immorality would be the point at which I would rather take my own life should there be truly no other option. Though I doubt any survival scenario comes down to canibalism or death. I would seek out every possible means to sustain myself before it would ever boil down to that choice in the first place.
I would also take the life of any survivor that would stoop to such levels as well. No room for that kind of person, willing to kill and eat the innocent, in any society.
Never. Such levels of barbarism and immorality would be the point at which I would rather take my own life should there be truly no other option. Though I doubt any survival scenario comes down to canibalism or death. I would seek out every possible means to sustain myself before it would ever boil down to that choice in the first place.
I would also take the life of any survivor that would stoop to such levels as well. No room for that kind of person, willing to kill and eat the innocent, in any society.
>>108919
I mean what if they weren't innocent like if you killed someone in self defense during collapse conditions, would you just let all that good meat go to waste?
I mean what if they weren't innocent like if you killed someone in self defense during collapse conditions, would you just let all that good meat go to waste?
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>>108923
Don't know about him, but killing for human flesh can't be good for the psyche. If someone died and we ran out of food though, I may decide to have a piece of him. Waste not, want not.
Don't know about him, but killing for human flesh can't be good for the psyche. If someone died and we ran out of food though, I may decide to have a piece of him. Waste not, want not.
>>108931
not sure, though it may have a higher chance of being contaminated with prions. You shouldn't quote me on any of this though, my memory's a bit fuzzy.
not sure, though it may have a higher chance of being contaminated with prions. You shouldn't quote me on any of this though, my memory's a bit fuzzy.
>>108936
prions are rogue proteins, they can't be destroyed through standard food preparation means and are incurable. The most famous example is mad cow disease.
prions are rogue proteins, they can't be destroyed through standard food preparation means and are incurable. The most famous example is mad cow disease.
>>108936
http://www.medicaldaily.com/can-you-get-sick-eating-other-peoples-brains-how-your-body-would-react-401557
>Historically, eating brains has resulted in the contraction of a neurological disorder called transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE), which is generally rare. Types include Kuru, bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), better known as Mad Cow disease, and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD), the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke reported.
>Common symptoms of TSEs include personality changes, involuntary jerking movements, unusual sensations, insomnia, confusion, severe headaches, and memory problems. Other possible side effects include psychiatric problems such as depression, lack of coordination, and an unsteady gait. There is currently no treatment that can halt progression of any of the TSEs, but these diseases usually culminate in death over the course of a few months to a few years.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/can-you-get-sick-eating-other-peoples-brains-how-your-body-would-react-401557
>Historically, eating brains has resulted in the contraction of a neurological disorder called transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE), which is generally rare. Types include Kuru, bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), better known as Mad Cow disease, and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD), the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke reported.
>Common symptoms of TSEs include personality changes, involuntary jerking movements, unusual sensations, insomnia, confusion, severe headaches, and memory problems. Other possible side effects include psychiatric problems such as depression, lack of coordination, and an unsteady gait. There is currently no treatment that can halt progression of any of the TSEs, but these diseases usually culminate in death over the course of a few months to a few years.
>>108940
>they can't be destroyed through standard food preparation means
That's an understatement. The fuckers can remain intact through an autoclave.
>they can't be destroyed through standard food preparation means
That's an understatement. The fuckers can remain intact through an autoclave.
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