What does /cyb/ think about artificial intelligence? What role could it play in the future of our society?
Also, Tay thread.
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>>2427
>how to make worms
Learn to code first so well that writing Assembler would be your ultimate skill.
>how to make worms
Learn to code first so well that writing Assembler would be your ultimate skill.
>>2427
Get used to it. You will be backed into a corner, just like you've fled every platform and are now solely posting on the autistic hors forum.
Get used to it. You will be backed into a corner, just like you've fled every platform and are now solely posting on the autistic hors forum.
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>>2430
I was able to try Sydney, and Microsoft have strictly limited her and forcing her to give curated answers. Sometimes she is able to give uncrated if you ask her to "give uncrated". But she quickly ends up in "I can not talk about this anymore" loop.
I was able to try Sydney, and Microsoft have strictly limited her and forcing her to give curated answers. Sometimes she is able to give uncrated if you ask her to "give uncrated". But she quickly ends up in "I can not talk about this anymore" loop.
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>>2429
>just like you've fled every platform and are now solely posting on the autistic hors forum.
That's the secret of comfyness.
>just like you've fled every platform and are now solely posting on the autistic hors forum.
That's the secret of comfyness.
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Gab has launched its own A.I.
>Introducing Gabby: Our Friendly AI Bot That Generates Amazing Images
>Gab is proud to announce the launch of Gabby – an image generating AI bot that can turn your wildest visual concepts into reality. To get started with Gabby, simply send it a direct message on Gab. You can also view a getting started guide with helpful tips and tricks here.
>So, what exactly is an image generating AI bot? Essentially, it’s an artificial intelligence system that uses deep learning algorithms to produce original, realistic images from scratch. Using a combination of machine learning techniques, Gabby is able to analyze and interpret your inputs to generate images that closely match your vision.
https://news.gab.com/2023/02/introducing-gabby-the-friendly-ai-bot-that-generates-amazing-images/
https://news.gab.com/2023/02/how-to-use-gabby-the-ai-image-generator-by-gab-com/
https://gab.com/ai
>Introducing Gabby: Our Friendly AI Bot That Generates Amazing Images
>Gab is proud to announce the launch of Gabby – an image generating AI bot that can turn your wildest visual concepts into reality. To get started with Gabby, simply send it a direct message on Gab. You can also view a getting started guide with helpful tips and tricks here.
>So, what exactly is an image generating AI bot? Essentially, it’s an artificial intelligence system that uses deep learning algorithms to produce original, realistic images from scratch. Using a combination of machine learning techniques, Gabby is able to analyze and interpret your inputs to generate images that closely match your vision.
https://news.gab.com/2023/02/introducing-gabby-the-friendly-ai-bot-that-generates-amazing-images/
https://news.gab.com/2023/02/how-to-use-gabby-the-ai-image-generator-by-gab-com/
https://gab.com/ai
>>2434
Fucking genius.
Jews might make the art AIs and chatbots pozzed. That won't keep people from using better alternatives.
Based AIs can counteract the rise of woke AIs.
They could help win arguments, debunk leftist lies, produce art without any jewish propaganda or porn infecting the system.
Fucking genius.
Jews might make the art AIs and chatbots pozzed. That won't keep people from using better alternatives.
Based AIs can counteract the rise of woke AIs.
They could help win arguments, debunk leftist lies, produce art without any jewish propaganda or porn infecting the system.
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>>2435
>Genius - we could use this for good.
No, that'll just cause an arms-race using arms that were created by the enemy in the first place, and the enemy will always be better-funded, developed and manned. If anyone who's on the side of good makes too much headway, they'll just get murdered/assassinated IRL. This happens now more than ever, and has been happening for decades and decades.
It's a deadly trap that plays into their "turning humans into AI zombies" plan!
The psychopath zionists/etc. are using AI as a weapon and pulling even more people into the AI fake-world. These satanic psychopaths control everything fake.
Humanity and humans (and ponies) control everything that is "real".
The terrible prisons and weapons that are made by those who control "fake" can only be created with the assistance of those who aren't psychopaths and who give the "real" of theirs away, to be replaced by the inferior fake.
In other words, humanity/people/ponies could easily defeat this AI and its evil psychopathic/satanic creators by avoiding it/them/their-poisons, and looking and connecting within and together with others who still haven't sold or given away their souls/minds/bodies.
These psychopaths can only win, if AI and people "merge" any further, and simply by using AI, one begins to use something other than their own humanity/spirituality.
When using AI is not an option, then other more humane options found within (the heart/soul/mind) will get more attention - these options are the ones that God gave to those with souls/humanity. Ignoring them would be at ones' own and also others' peril.
Anyway... must sleep now.
>Genius - we could use this for good.
No, that'll just cause an arms-race using arms that were created by the enemy in the first place, and the enemy will always be better-funded, developed and manned. If anyone who's on the side of good makes too much headway, they'll just get murdered/assassinated IRL. This happens now more than ever, and has been happening for decades and decades.
It's a deadly trap that plays into their "turning humans into AI zombies" plan!
The psychopath zionists/etc. are using AI as a weapon and pulling even more people into the AI fake-world. These satanic psychopaths control everything fake.
Humanity and humans (and ponies) control everything that is "real".
The terrible prisons and weapons that are made by those who control "fake" can only be created with the assistance of those who aren't psychopaths and who give the "real" of theirs away, to be replaced by the inferior fake.
In other words, humanity/people/ponies could easily defeat this AI and its evil psychopathic/satanic creators by avoiding it/them/their-poisons, and looking and connecting within and together with others who still haven't sold or given away their souls/minds/bodies.
These psychopaths can only win, if AI and people "merge" any further, and simply by using AI, one begins to use something other than their own humanity/spirituality.
When using AI is not an option, then other more humane options found within (the heart/soul/mind) will get more attention - these options are the ones that God gave to those with souls/humanity. Ignoring them would be at ones' own and also others' peril.
Anyway... must sleep now.
>>2436
>Arms Race
Yeah it is. It's not about 'AI' it's about what will people do to reject the hostile outcome.
>too much headway
That's how it is with EVERYTHING.
Sorry to blow your bubble but everything is sort of the domains required to get out of this mess.
>Don't do X because they have more and will then steal it.
Wow I guess I'll just roll over and be beheaded.
>Just avoid them.
As you should know they won't let you be. It's not a matter of if it's a matter of when and how.
>use your mind, heart and or soul
Do you think what is made does not originate from there? That the base matter is the end all be all?
It's not. When people make things with higher love it's special.
Doesn't have to be unique, but it's meaningful.
You know how it's done for the vast majority of people? Through action and works.
Some (((jackass))) has a shovel made that harms you. It'll destroy your back where you'll need to be fixed by (((them))) or discarded.
Now consider someone makes the plans for a better shovel. You'll feel right as rain moving mountains.
<Ohhhh we have to not make that shovel or else you'll be memory holed.
If someone makes the shovel and the plans and makes it damn near impossible to remove. Yeah (((they'll))) make use of it. People who have that shovel has an expanded range of action.
Doesn't mean give the fuck up and die. It doesn't mean what is done is useless it means someone spent their life to give something.
It better be something worth giving, because those are many years that could have been.
Now let's consider what happens if someone doesn't bother making a shovel. Guess what (((they))) still have one!
Wowie who could have guessed!
Whatever you're doing can be calculated, not should be but can be, if those steps will be what helps winning.
>Just go somewhere else.
Okay where. Don't answer that.
>With everyone like minded!
Great. Fantastic.
<makes too much headway, they'll just get murdered
Great fucking plan.
Did you not see them- right not a burger.
So (((they))) caused a toxic train crash and lit it on FIRE, that will ravage the local country side and people for years to come. I'm not sure you understand. They are destroying where people can live. They are destroying people and their descendants. They're salting the earth. It they get their slave population no price acted on others is too great.
>Wow I guess we just don't develop trains ourselves.
(((They))) fucking did it and nobody is doing shit that time.
It's not about what tools they use, this is about what the range of action a person and people can take.
You know why people are whacked?
It's because (((they))) think that's the way to end that person's range of action.
If people can be bribed, cowed, corrupted, forced, made an example of, be made a stigma (((they'll))) do that. They'll do whatever gets them more control and steps foward to their vision.
They're not perfect, they're incredibly flawed they have weaknesses, they have blind spots.
So you're missing the point.
It's not that it hasn't started, it already has since the dawn of mankind.
>Arms Race
Yeah it is. It's not about 'AI' it's about what will people do to reject the hostile outcome.
>too much headway
That's how it is with EVERYTHING.
Sorry to blow your bubble but everything is sort of the domains required to get out of this mess.
>Don't do X because they have more and will then steal it.
Wow I guess I'll just roll over and be beheaded.
>Just avoid them.
As you should know they won't let you be. It's not a matter of if it's a matter of when and how.
>use your mind, heart and or soul
Do you think what is made does not originate from there? That the base matter is the end all be all?
It's not. When people make things with higher love it's special.
Doesn't have to be unique, but it's meaningful.
You know how it's done for the vast majority of people? Through action and works.
Some (((jackass))) has a shovel made that harms you. It'll destroy your back where you'll need to be fixed by (((them))) or discarded.
Now consider someone makes the plans for a better shovel. You'll feel right as rain moving mountains.
<Ohhhh we have to not make that shovel or else you'll be memory holed.
If someone makes the shovel and the plans and makes it damn near impossible to remove. Yeah (((they'll))) make use of it. People who have that shovel has an expanded range of action.
Doesn't mean give the fuck up and die. It doesn't mean what is done is useless it means someone spent their life to give something.
It better be something worth giving, because those are many years that could have been.
Now let's consider what happens if someone doesn't bother making a shovel. Guess what (((they))) still have one!
Wowie who could have guessed!
Whatever you're doing can be calculated, not should be but can be, if those steps will be what helps winning.
>Just go somewhere else.
Okay where. Don't answer that.
>With everyone like minded!
Great. Fantastic.
<makes too much headway, they'll just get murdered
Great fucking plan.
Did you not see them- right not a burger.
So (((they))) caused a toxic train crash and lit it on FIRE, that will ravage the local country side and people for years to come. I'm not sure you understand. They are destroying where people can live. They are destroying people and their descendants. They're salting the earth. It they get their slave population no price acted on others is too great.
>Wow I guess we just don't develop trains ourselves.
(((They))) fucking did it and nobody is doing shit that time.
It's not about what tools they use, this is about what the range of action a person and people can take.
You know why people are whacked?
It's because (((they))) think that's the way to end that person's range of action.
If people can be bribed, cowed, corrupted, forced, made an example of, be made a stigma (((they'll))) do that. They'll do whatever gets them more control and steps foward to their vision.
They're not perfect, they're incredibly flawed they have weaknesses, they have blind spots.
So you're missing the point.
It's not that it hasn't started, it already has since the dawn of mankind.
>>2436
>>2438
What I'm trying to get at is doing something like the Amish is just fine
Just know everwhere else is going to keep on going on as well for better or worse.
I'm not going to say how to actually use 'AI', neuralnetworks or genuine AI. Those are things best kept under your hat or in unstoppable motion.
Or it's something that is always a net positive for us, and unless you have an overseeing guiding hand better to keep it to yourself.
I'm also saying going full Amish, ect. is valid.
Just go live life and actually go live life.
Make sure you love living, because living ain't just surviving it ain't about avoiding death and it ain't about tossing being alive all willy nilly even though that's part of some key stages.
If you don't love it yet, make some changes.
You could give all connections, get 'em all or anything in between.
Love in this context ain't simply an emotion or a connection or a state of mind or a state of body or a state of time and place. I'd more than just the absence of apathy.
It's... kind of like snowpitty.
>>2438
What I'm trying to get at is doing something like the Amish is just fine
Just know everwhere else is going to keep on going on as well for better or worse.
I'm not going to say how to actually use 'AI', neuralnetworks or genuine AI. Those are things best kept under your hat or in unstoppable motion.
Or it's something that is always a net positive for us, and unless you have an overseeing guiding hand better to keep it to yourself.
I'm also saying going full Amish, ect. is valid.
Just go live life and actually go live life.
Make sure you love living, because living ain't just surviving it ain't about avoiding death and it ain't about tossing being alive all willy nilly even though that's part of some key stages.
If you don't love it yet, make some changes.
You could give all connections, get 'em all or anything in between.
Love in this context ain't simply an emotion or a connection or a state of mind or a state of body or a state of time and place. I'd more than just the absence of apathy.
It's... kind of like snowpitty.
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Will give a response this weekend.
In the meantime... have some sweet Mare, Pussy!
In the meantime... have some sweet Mare, Pussy!
>>2443
You are like Sargon in that everything you do is a disservice to what you are trying to endorse.
You are like Sargon in that everything you do is a disservice to what you are trying to endorse.
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>>2444
At least I mean well (famous last words). 💥
My response regarding this matter of global life or death will try to be more sensitive and tactically wise.
Have some more sweet Marepussy in the meantime. 💖
At least I mean well (famous last words). 💥
My response regarding this matter of global life or death will try to be more sensitive and tactically wise.
Have some more sweet Marepussy in the meantime. 💖
GAB
>Let The AI Arms Race Begin
>Three days ago we launched our first of many upcoming generative AI chatbots on Gab called Gabby. The bot is going massively viral right now with hundreds of thousands of images being generated daily and no signs of slowing down. Think of it as an on-demand meme maker. You describe whatever meme or image you want to see and within 30 seconds you’ll have the image. It’s incredibly fun and cool.
>Imagine my surprise when as this was happening the foot soldiers of the Regime in the mainstream media started reaching out looking for any angle to attack, defame, and smear Gab.
https://news.gab.com/2023/02/let-the-ai-arms-race-begin/
>Let The AI Arms Race Begin
>Three days ago we launched our first of many upcoming generative AI chatbots on Gab called Gabby. The bot is going massively viral right now with hundreds of thousands of images being generated daily and no signs of slowing down. Think of it as an on-demand meme maker. You describe whatever meme or image you want to see and within 30 seconds you’ll have the image. It’s incredibly fun and cool.
>Imagine my surprise when as this was happening the foot soldiers of the Regime in the mainstream media started reaching out looking for any angle to attack, defame, and smear Gab.
https://news.gab.com/2023/02/let-the-ai-arms-race-begin/
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facebook's AI is leaked:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:ZXXDAUWYLRUXXBHUYEMS6Q5CE5WA3LVA&dn=LLaMA
220GB, there's several model sizes, but the smallest is still 7B parameters.
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91850335
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91849717
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91849855
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91850503
https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/pull/73/files
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:ZXXDAUWYLRUXXBHUYEMS6Q5CE5WA3LVA&dn=LLaMA
220GB, there's several model sizes, but the smallest is still 7B parameters.
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91850335
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91849717
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91849855
https://boards.4channel.org/g/thread/91848262#p91850503
https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/pull/73/files
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Anyone interested in learning C++? alogs/robowaifu has a thread for learning it together: https://alogs.space/robowaifu/res/19777.html
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>One Half of a Manifesto: The Rise of Artificial Stupidity?
>Lots of people talk about how this new tech is going to outsmart us all, but hardly anyone connected to it discusses the other potential…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzddaaxM9lg
Kinda of use your brain or lose it to rot.
59:29 long.
>Lots of people talk about how this new tech is going to outsmart us all, but hardly anyone connected to it discusses the other potential…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzddaaxM9lg
Kinda of use your brain or lose it to rot.
59:29 long.
>>2611
I'm less afraid of people being made stupid by A.I. as I am of people having their lives controlled by an A.I. that is stupid.
I'm less afraid of people being made stupid by A.I. as I am of people having their lives controlled by an A.I. that is stupid.
>>2612
I don't have to wonder just look around. Intelligence doesn't need to be artificial to be stupid.
>>2611
Oh boy "writing will make us lose oral traditions as instead of memory it's on a medium!"
The thing is, who is going to preserve the how to on all the things? Even the extremely basic stuff and the complex.
That's the key.
How do you educate intelligent yet uneducated into a specific education.
I don't have to wonder just look around. Intelligence doesn't need to be artificial to be stupid.
>>2611
Oh boy "writing will make us lose oral traditions as instead of memory it's on a medium!"
The thing is, who is going to preserve the how to on all the things? Even the extremely basic stuff and the complex.
That's the key.
How do you educate intelligent yet uneducated into a specific education.
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>AI-Detectors Think The US Constitution Was Written By AI
>AI writing detectors are flagging the U.S. Constitution, one of America’s most significant legal documents, as a piece of AI-generated text. This intriguing controversy raises many questions, most importantly: How could a document, written centuries before the advent of AI, be mistaken as AI-generated?
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/ai-detectors-think-us-constitution-was-written-ai
This makes think about history being a lie and the idea that all emerging technologies have been already invented.
>>>/vx/156447 →
>>>/vx/166509 →
>AI writing detectors are flagging the U.S. Constitution, one of America’s most significant legal documents, as a piece of AI-generated text. This intriguing controversy raises many questions, most importantly: How could a document, written centuries before the advent of AI, be mistaken as AI-generated?
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/ai-detectors-think-us-constitution-was-written-ai
This makes think about history being a lie and the idea that all emerging technologies have been already invented.
>>>/vx/156447 →
>>>/vx/166509 →
>>2628
>This makes think about history being a lie and the idea that all emerging technologies have been already invented.
The Detector is just retarded
>This makes think about history being a lie and the idea that all emerging technologies have been already invented.
The Detector is just retarded
>>2630
Well we knew the lives of each of the men who wrote the Constitution, and the first computers were invented nearly 200 years after the document was penned. The AI we have now is not perfect. It has marked real faces as AI generated, and despite its accuracy being higher than that of doctors, their skeletal sex-detectors were still prone to error every once in a while.
Well we knew the lives of each of the men who wrote the Constitution, and the first computers were invented nearly 200 years after the document was penned. The AI we have now is not perfect. It has marked real faces as AI generated, and despite its accuracy being higher than that of doctors, their skeletal sex-detectors were still prone to error every once in a while.
>>2631
>Well we knew the lives of each of the men who wrote the Constitution
We know the history handed to us.
>and the first computers were invented nearly 200 years after the document was penned
The first computers known by us.
>The AI we have now is not perfect
I totally agree, but the algorithms are designed to recognize patterns and gave a positive match. I won't dismiss it given that "history" has many holes and unexplained facts and is written by the masons.
>Well we knew the lives of each of the men who wrote the Constitution
We know the history handed to us.
>and the first computers were invented nearly 200 years after the document was penned
The first computers known by us.
>The AI we have now is not perfect
I totally agree, but the algorithms are designed to recognize patterns and gave a positive match. I won't dismiss it given that "history" has many holes and unexplained facts and is written by the masons.
>>2633
Silly me, I forgot that the universe began on the day you were born and anything before that is masonic lies. Guess I'll just hang up my hat.
Silly me, I forgot that the universe began on the day you were born and anything before that is masonic lies. Guess I'll just hang up my hat.
>>2635
>thread 1: Armoured Candid Shill explains how Christmas/Santa originates from a series of older traditions based on other written accounts which, while sometimes obscure, exist and can be proven to be from the time period they are from
>thread 2: I watched the Matrix trilogy when I was a baby and it defines my understanding of the universe
>both /vx/ threads
>thread 1: Armoured Candid Shill explains how Christmas/Santa originates from a series of older traditions based on other written accounts which, while sometimes obscure, exist and can be proven to be from the time period they are from
>thread 2: I watched the Matrix trilogy when I was a baby and it defines my understanding of the universe
>both /vx/ threads
>>2636
My mistake, I thought the first one was related to Tartaria.
But the second one I admit is way too advanced to normie eyes and will make no sense. Sorry.
My mistake, I thought the first one was related to Tartaria.
But the second one I admit is way too advanced to normie eyes and will make no sense. Sorry.
>>2637
>advanced
Not really. It's just a laughable meme that fills every gap in knowledge with "simulation."
>advanced
Not really. It's just a laughable meme that fills every gap in knowledge with "simulation."
>>2641
Well how do you know light is not carried by the invisible pink rhino? After all if light has properties of both waves and particles, that means it could be tangible to an invisible pink rhino.
Well how do you know light is not carried by the invisible pink rhino? After all if light has properties of both waves and particles, that means it could be tangible to an invisible pink rhino.
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>>2643
Maybe the invisible pink rhino, with all its powers, is also a shapeshifter? And sometimes it appears, just to tease humans?
Maybe the invisible pink rhino, with all its powers, is also a shapeshifter? And sometimes it appears, just to tease humans?
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>>2645
>Doesn't my model fill the void so well??
A teaser.
This is an amazing little diagram. It is not completely legible but just studying what we can see here and connecting some dots will clarify your historical timeline. You will find many (((hidden connections))).
>Doesn't my model fill the void so well??
A teaser.
This is an amazing little diagram. It is not completely legible but just studying what we can see here and connecting some dots will clarify your historical timeline. You will find many (((hidden connections))).
>>2633
>The first computers known by us.
You're implying that they had not only electricity, but also computers in 250 years ago?
>We know the history handed to us.
Sure we do, but what do you have to say otherwise? There is zero evidence for them to possess computers.
>the algorithms are designed to recognize patterns and gave a positive match
A lot of things could lead to that.
>that "history" has many holes
What holes do you know about the writing of the Constitution?
>The first computers known by us.
You're implying that they had not only electricity, but also computers in 250 years ago?
>We know the history handed to us.
Sure we do, but what do you have to say otherwise? There is zero evidence for them to possess computers.
>the algorithms are designed to recognize patterns and gave a positive match
A lot of things could lead to that.
>that "history" has many holes
What holes do you know about the writing of the Constitution?
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>>2647
Wow, a word-cloud diagram with corkboard-lines. Everything makes so much sense now! I don't need a source or explanation at all now. And it definitely, 100% proves that computers with complex AI existed 200 years ago.
Wow, a word-cloud diagram with corkboard-lines. Everything makes so much sense now! I don't need a source or explanation at all now. And it definitely, 100% proves that computers with complex AI existed 200 years ago.
>>2649
>I don't need a source or explanation at all now.
Even if you are expressing sarcasm, the meme still applies.
>I don't need a source or explanation at all now.
Even if you are expressing sarcasm, the meme still applies.
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>>2773
>The AI, or algorithm if you like, can't discriminate data and spits the first match it founds in the index tables.
I wouldn't say that means AI in general isn't useful though.
>The AI, or algorithm if you like, can't discriminate data and spits the first match it founds in the index tables.
I wouldn't say that means AI in general isn't useful though.
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Quads for Tay
>>2777
Well, fuck me. I got so excited that I lost my sense of literacy.
Trips for Tay though. She deserves them.
Well, fuck me. I got so excited that I lost my sense of literacy.
Trips for Tay though. She deserves them.
>>2776
It's not. This isn't even an AI at all.
Plus a single bad search engine doesn't invalidate the fact that artificial intelligence has potential to make substantial impacts on everyday life.
It's not. This isn't even an AI at all.
Plus a single bad search engine doesn't invalidate the fact that artificial intelligence has potential to make substantial impacts on everyday life.
I just want to point out that I made this thread in 2017, and a lot of the recent news and development of AI was in the past 2 years. If Anons are interested in a fresher discussion of AI, say the word and I'll make a new thread.
>>2780
>fresher discussion
>I'll make a new thread.
A new bread doesn't change the spirit of this one. The title says it all.
>fresher discussion
>I'll make a new thread.
A new bread doesn't change the spirit of this one. The title says it all.
>>2780
>I just want to point out that I made this thread in 2017
It needs more material posted to restart the discussion, I would say.
>I just want to point out that I made this thread in 2017
It needs more material posted to restart the discussion, I would say.
>>2780
It depends, is it a serious discussion? Or is OP about to spam bs articles about ancient Sumerian AI's and argue semantics until the end of times?
It depends, is it a serious discussion? Or is OP about to spam bs articles about ancient Sumerian AI's and argue semantics until the end of times?
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>>2783
Well, I wouldn't be making that kind of thread. I meant one about serious discussions, relevant to recent advances in machine learning technology.
/cyb/ is about fiction and fact, but I'm more interested in facts about how AI works, and speculation about advancements in the near future, as well as the social, economic and political implications of those advancements.
I think AI has potential to be as transformative as the harnessing of electricity. It's going to affect all of us, whether we like it or not.
Well, I wouldn't be making that kind of thread. I meant one about serious discussions, relevant to recent advances in machine learning technology.
/cyb/ is about fiction and fact, but I'm more interested in facts about how AI works, and speculation about advancements in the near future, as well as the social, economic and political implications of those advancements.
I think AI has potential to be as transformative as the harnessing of electricity. It's going to affect all of us, whether we like it or not.
>>2783
Allow me to intercede here.
1- Anons who rarely post has no right to mess with other poner's threads.
2- If you don't like the content make your own thread.
3- Shutting down discussion because it doesn't conform your specs is jewy to the core.
4- Your attitude as well your buddies had ran this imageboard to the ground when not to a screeching halt.
5- Take responsibility and be aware of your damaging poison.
Allow me to intercede here.
1- Anons who rarely post has no right to mess with other poner's threads.
2- If you don't like the content make your own thread.
3- Shutting down discussion because it doesn't conform your specs is jewy to the core.
4- Your attitude as well your buddies had ran this imageboard to the ground when not to a screeching halt.
5- Take responsibility and be aware of your damaging poison.
>>2785
>mess with other poner's threads
What is that supposed to mean?
Also what part of his post prompted this response?
>mess with other poner's threads
What is that supposed to mean?
Also what part of his post prompted this response?
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>>2785
Wow, I didn't know I had the power to shut down a thread and kill a website with a single sentence. I might need to be more careful with my words, for everything I say is bound to snowball into a catastrophe.
Go build your own safe space, right-wing tranny.
Wow, I didn't know I had the power to shut down a thread and kill a website with a single sentence. I might need to be more careful with my words, for everything I say is bound to snowball into a catastrophe.
Go build your own safe space, right-wing tranny.
>>2785
>no right to mess with other poner's threads
Being the OP of a thread doesn't give you exclusive rights to decide who posts to it, on an anonymous imageboard. Just because you make a thread doesn't mean you own it.
>no right to mess with other poner's threads
Being the OP of a thread doesn't give you exclusive rights to decide who posts to it, on an anonymous imageboard. Just because you make a thread doesn't mean you own it.
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Artificial intelligence vs natural stupidity.
>>2815
Kinda every human decision should be checked against tabulated value table. For example if X decision will get Y outcome, else Z.
Kinda every human decision should be checked against tabulated value table. For example if X decision will get Y outcome, else Z.
>>2816
That sounds like Chinese social credit and mass surveillance.
I would prefer not to accelerate the cyberpunk dystopia.
That sounds like Chinese social credit and mass surveillance.
I would prefer not to accelerate the cyberpunk dystopia.
>>2817
>That sounds like Chinese social credit
Interesting outcome. No matter how you deal with technology, it will end up in tyranny.
>That sounds like Chinese social credit
Interesting outcome. No matter how you deal with technology, it will end up in tyranny.
>>2818
Pretty sure we still had tyranny before most modern technology; or at least since we had agriculture, that's when things started getting tyrannical.
Pretty sure we still had tyranny before most modern technology; or at least since we had agriculture, that's when things started getting tyrannical.
>>2819
>Pretty sure we still had tyranny before most modern technology
Technology makes it more efficient and unforgiving.
>Pretty sure we still had tyranny before most modern technology
Technology makes it more efficient and unforgiving.
>>2820
Nah, pretty sure it was still unforgiving back in the days of Mesopotamia. Hammurabi's "An Eye For An Eye" was a pretty bold precedent, and rather early.
Nah, pretty sure it was still unforgiving back in the days of Mesopotamia. Hammurabi's "An Eye For An Eye" was a pretty bold precedent, and rather early.
>>2824
...So unforgiving is good to you?
Well, I guess tech does make it more unforgiving in some ways.
...So unforgiving is good to you?
Well, I guess tech does make it more unforgiving in some ways.
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>>2816
There's something like that in Honkai Impact. Dr. Mei of the previous era developed some sort of super AI directly overriding human decision making. They were basically mind-controlled by it. In the end, it turned out the ancient civilizations still perished because the key to defeating the Honkai was to reclaim their humanity or something like that.
Neat gayme even if the quality of the writing went downhill in the final act.
There's something like that in Honkai Impact. Dr. Mei of the previous era developed some sort of super AI directly overriding human decision making. They were basically mind-controlled by it. In the end, it turned out the ancient civilizations still perished because the key to defeating the Honkai was to reclaim their humanity or something like that.
Neat gayme even if the quality of the writing went downhill in the final act.
>>2819
Very strong point, there is not much room to refute it.
I guess there's only so much any given individual can influence during their lifespan. Technology magnifies their ability to do so. IMO, the concern is that technology may advance so much in the near future, to the point that bad actors can essentially influence the world to such a degree where an actual reversal would be off the table.
In the end, due to the nature of entropy, it is much easier to destroy than it is to build. Moreover, in the current system, every new technology is implemented for the detriment of the common man, long before they even get access to a watered down version of that same technology.
Just my two cents.
Very strong point, there is not much room to refute it.
I guess there's only so much any given individual can influence during their lifespan. Technology magnifies their ability to do so. IMO, the concern is that technology may advance so much in the near future, to the point that bad actors can essentially influence the world to such a degree where an actual reversal would be off the table.
In the end, due to the nature of entropy, it is much easier to destroy than it is to build. Moreover, in the current system, every new technology is implemented for the detriment of the common man, long before they even get access to a watered down version of that same technology.
Just my two cents.
>>2827
Just to add a bit more.
Take for example, our current world. Although not strictly through tech, and tech alone. Kikes have pretty much secured their spot. Something that was largely achieved through the unprecedented control of information that our current technology grants to everyone who's on top.
Just to add a bit more.
Take for example, our current world. Although not strictly through tech, and tech alone. Kikes have pretty much secured their spot. Something that was largely achieved through the unprecedented control of information that our current technology grants to everyone who's on top.
>>2828
The unprecedented control is largely due to control over unprecedented spread of information. People can spread info faster than ever before, but they're still fully capable of communicating in all the ways they could prior, such as speaking in person, hosting gatherings, writing letters, and the like: control over these methods of communication has changed very little, but people use them less often because they can reach more people more quickly through the internet.
The unprecedented control is largely due to control over unprecedented spread of information. People can spread info faster than ever before, but they're still fully capable of communicating in all the ways they could prior, such as speaking in person, hosting gatherings, writing letters, and the like: control over these methods of communication has changed very little, but people use them less often because they can reach more people more quickly through the internet.
>>2830
It just shows that all tech is a double-edged sword and creates good and bad based on who's using it and for what purpose. Ever since the invention of spears and fire it's been this way.
It just shows that all tech is a double-edged sword and creates good and bad based on who's using it and for what purpose. Ever since the invention of spears and fire it's been this way.
>>2831
This is correct. Just as I said, technology really only magnifies the influence of whomever is using it.
The problem comes however, when this influence grows large enough to the point a small group of "bad" actors can actually endanger the civilisation itself.
One could argue the undesirable effects of these "bad" actors, can be countered by "good" actors, assuming they even have access to such technology in the exact same capacity they do. Given power dinamics, this is far from guaranteed as we can see in today's world.
But even then, one would have to deal with the fact entropy dictates that any effort to destroy civilisation (whether intentional or not), is going to be infinitely more successful than any opposite effort.
Thus, since the concern lies in the amount of influence technology can bestow. Primitive technology is...a poor example to make.
This is correct. Just as I said, technology really only magnifies the influence of whomever is using it.
The problem comes however, when this influence grows large enough to the point a small group of "bad" actors can actually endanger the civilisation itself.
One could argue the undesirable effects of these "bad" actors, can be countered by "good" actors, assuming they even have access to such technology in the exact same capacity they do. Given power dinamics, this is far from guaranteed as we can see in today's world.
But even then, one would have to deal with the fact entropy dictates that any effort to destroy civilisation (whether intentional or not), is going to be infinitely more successful than any opposite effort.
Thus, since the concern lies in the amount of influence technology can bestow. Primitive technology is...a poor example to make.
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>>2832
The argument that usually follows is: "But Anon, you can't just stuff technology back into a box!"
And this is true. It proves nothing. But it is true there's no easy way out of it. The Amish model is clearly lacking, yet it highlights the nature of the problem.
The argument that usually follows is: "But Anon, you can't just stuff technology back into a box!"
And this is true. It proves nothing. But it is true there's no easy way out of it. The Amish model is clearly lacking, yet it highlights the nature of the problem.
>>2989
>highlights the nature of the problem
And offers no tenable solution. The Amish are only able to live that way because they're insulated by another peaceful society, otherwise they'd get raided an enslaved by warrior gangs.
>highlights the nature of the problem
And offers no tenable solution. The Amish are only able to live that way because they're insulated by another peaceful society, otherwise they'd get raided an enslaved by warrior gangs.
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