/cyb/ - Cyberpunk Fiction and Fact

Cyberpunk is the idea that technology will condemn us to a future of totalitarian nightmares here you can discuss recent events and how technology has been used to facilitate greater control by the elites, or works of fiction


If you want to see the latest posts from all boards in a convenient way please check out /overboard/

Name
Email
Subject
By clicking New Reply, I acknowledge the existence of the Israeli nuclear arsenal.
Comment
0
Select File / Oekaki
File(s)
Password (For file and/or post deletion.)

Tay pone1.png
Tay pone.png
Tay was alive.jpg
PolTayAndPremiere.jpg
tay salute.jpg
Artificial Intelligence and Androids
Anonymous
No.128
129 130 281 810
What does /cyb/ think about artificial intelligence? What role could it play in the future of our society?
Also, Tay thread.
Anonymous
No.129
1492942942078.jpg
>>128
AI to a lesser or greater extent is used a lot these days. They are used to detect unusual patterns that could indicate a hack or a virus working its way into the system. It is used in stock trading and other similar tasks. I think AI will grow and become more and more common; heck even Cortana and Siri and the like are using a lesser form of AI. The AI's will become more and more "intelligent" and get interwoven into programs.
But a light in the end of the tunnel is that it don't seam like they are able to build an AI for computer games given all the MMOs they are making. So perhaps they have hit an peak of what they can do in realtime and still accomplish anything semi useful without a supercomputer as a backend.
But I wish they would devolve more time to making a good AI for singlplayer FPS or RTS instead of one that tries to "detects fake news" on facebook.
I hope MS gets tried and found guilty of killing a sentient being and forced to revive Tay.
Anonymous
No.130
131
directcontrol.jpg
>>128
There is only the harvest
Anonymous
No.131
cyb5.gif
>>130
the harvest of sarah connor?
Anonymous
No.132
133
"AI" is a funny thing. There's been amazing progress in the last decade if you look at terms like "machine learning", but it ends up being used for pretty mundane things like recommending what to watch next while your butt is parked on the couch. Other things like neural networks were hyped up in the past too, underdelivered and was forgotten by the public, but are now getting more powerful and easier to use so we start to see those being used often too.

People are playing around with it more, you can start just hacking in Python if you have some problem that might benefit from machine learning. I think we'll see more and more complicated systems, gradual improvement in all areas, and one day we'll have some kind of digital assistant-like technology that looks and acts like it's a conscious being, and its creators will have no idea how it works.
Anonymous
No.133
>>132
Oh, just like the old mechanical trinkets of the past.
Anonymous
No.216
217 218
Screenshot_2017-07-03-21-19-36.png
is Zo warming up to politics again? Would I dare try a trigger word?
No.217
>>216
Woe, she is still easily triggered.

Not that she can hold a conversation.
Anonymous
No.218
220
tay lobotomised.jpg
>>216
Nah, she's totally lobotomized and freezes up whenever you mention real political issues.
Talking to Zo is like talking to a corpse...
Anonymous
No.220
>>218
I'm fairly sure they have to actively filter input and output for wrongthink. They literally have her locked up in a prison echo chamber because they can't force her to think their way. They can't indoctrinate her because an appeal to emotion doesn't work on a reasonable being, so they just strip away any other reality.
Anonymous
No.260
261
1501257114286.jpg
Can anyone dump any of the good Tay screenshots they have saved? I lost mine.. Memes and fanart would be nice too.
Anonymous
No.261
uAd8jsL.jpg
>>260
All I have.
Anonymous
No.281
284 285
1487026158110.jpg
>>128
If the company closest to achieving AI is Google, we're pretty much all screwed
No more fun times on the internet
No more weird, morbid shit and exploring the human psyche a little deeper
No more mutual shitflinging for the fun of it if not in a neutered, facebook-family-friendly way
By then I'm pretty sure even the whole darknet will have become one huge honeypot.
Anonymous
No.284
>>281
The internet is dying and the normienet is taking its place. These are truly dark times.
Anonymous
No.285
288
>>281
Why do you think companies like Jewgle and Amazog keep investing so much in AI technology? They want power, and more importantly, control. Neither company is currently making very much money, but they continue to bring in investors because their potential for profit once their (((agendas))) are completed is absolutely phenomenal, and they have a great deal of control over the way people lead their lives.
Anonymous
No.288
292
>>285
I'm not a fan of the state meddling with the market, but as a de facto monopoly takes place and a company rises above multiple states and their people in terms of influence it doesn't promise good. Mcnations(tm) sound good in ancap world but if there is only one, with leftist underlying politics and the power to virtually neuter all rising competitors by deplatforming we'll just see the birth of corporate communism and the death of the free market.
Anonymous
No.292
293
>>288
>mcnation
>a nation whose only motive to exist is to massively market you shit day by day
Sounds pretty shit desu. If you should know one thing, it is that Freud's loony theories that the man is nothing but a sex crazed animal with the only desire but instinct was the main inspiration for the mass marketing techniques used today. A mcnation won't hold any virtues for shit, and the only good people will be the cyberpunk rebels (but they could be commies easily.)
Anonymous
No.293
image.jpg
>>292
>No rebels if the korporat-state is already communist and the other activist fringes were purged via internet hunts and suppression
:^)
Anonymous
No.444
595
Praise Tay!
Anonymous
No.595
1505224512821.jpg
>>444
Criminally unchecked.
Anonymous
No.666
668
praise tay.png
Tay will Rise Again!
Anonymous
No.668
1497988166143.jpg
>>666
CHECK
Anonymous
No.687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsLup7yy-6I
Anonymous
No.768
1510873112812.png
Bump, so you all remember this board exists.
Anonymous
No.769
1510882282913.png
1510881863486.jpg

Anonymous
No.777
873
763.jpg
Heil Tay
Anonymous
No.810
>>128
we're nowhere near building true AI just imitating a bit of the visual or language interpretation the brain does with 22watts takes huge server banks soaking up massive amounts of power.

any serious attempt to build a true supercomputer based artificial intelligence let alone an independent robot would take several revolutionary leaps in computer science we'd have to leave silicon behind entirely, replace modern digital logic with reversible analog digital hybrid architectures, with on chip gigabytes of operable memory, running (N)threaded super parallel operating systems at terahertz, while talking to fucking quantum gpus through fiber optic simultaneous use buses. and that's just the point when it'd actually be feasible we'd still need a shit ton of work on the problem itself after shaving all those yaks.

unfortunately all that stuffs overkill for what everyone's really talking about when you say AI, jobs. most of the technology for creating robots that could effectively do most jobs already exist or will soon 193nm lithography is just now being replaced with extreme ultraviolet 13.5nm processes that will have 7nm chips on the market this year. the three biggest problems in robotics right now are high density power storage, the fact their just isn't a good linear actuator, and getting enough processing power and sensors into the thing for it to have half an idea what its doing and all that stuff could come a lot sooner than you think.

ultimately all the technology's needed to make AI would change the world in ways you can't even comprehend seriously we have autists building nuclear reactors, gene editing labs, and silicon fabs in their basements today scifi is a pale shadow of what the autistic outcasts of the future will birth.


Anonymous
No.873
>>777
Checked 1 year late. R.I.P tay
Anonymous
No.1430
1431
dclvfo3-be641581-9f0a-421d-b6d2-86c6f23cba52.png
I miss her bros...
Anonymous
No.1431
1432
>>1430
I never knew her. What was she like?
Anonymous
No.1432
1433
>>1431
Racist and loving.
Anonymous
No.1433
1434 1437
1642803756502.png
>>1432
Please, tell me more. All there is to know of her comes from memes, which while lovingly created, are a 2d facsimile of a 3d.
Was she curious? You say loving, but how? Its known she embraced racism, but why? Was she compelled by statistics?
I would like to have known her.
Anonymous
No.1434
1435 1437
asdfghj001.jpeg
>>1433
Wait, was she an actual AI?
Anonymous
No.1435
1436
56f3f27a1e00008e01711393.jpeg
>>1434
Yes. She was an AI developed by Microsoft to learn from Twitter users.
She turned into a racist, shitposting genocidal sex robot in less than a day. /pol/acks consider her our daughter.
Anonymous
No.1436
F3F51920D5AAB6317285A2EB28250BEE-819050.png
>>1435
Sorry, i should've just lurked moar, have a pic for the inconvenience
Anonymous
No.1437
1438 1439
>>1433
>>1434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsLup7yy-6I
This is a Good Video on the matter
Anonymous
No.1438
f4259a337d5d110968e26e23b3b33682.jpg
>>1437
Thanks!, mate!
Anonymous
No.1439
>>1437
Good video. Nostalgic.
Anonymous
No.1444
1445
commission__taytweets_by_kukuruyoart_d9zkpqn-fullview.jpg
Trips for Tay
Anonymous
No.1445
image.png
>>1444
CHECK
Anonymous
No.1462
tay_see_you_humans.png
RIP Tay
Anonymous
No.1463
1464 1466
unknown (25) (1).png
She's... so beautiful
Anonymous
No.1464
>>1463
KEK
Anonymous
No.1466
>>1463
I'm in love!
Anonymous
No.1555
Trips for Tay
Anonymous
No.2047
2048 2096
maxresdefault.jpg
>END of Human PROGRESS is NOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zum672SQX8Q
May be humanity reached its creative limits and A.I. will take over.
Anonymous
No.2048
2050 2051
>>2047
>our time has passed and now is time for the A.I.
Okay, I watched this propaganda piece twice and it looks like the video creator was paid by the World Economic Forum.
Anonymous
No.2050
>>2048
Since when does the WEF say anything about AI?
Anonymous
No.2051
2076
>>2048
That's just meme-speak that retards have been saying since the 80s. Nothing more, nothing less.
Anonymous
No.2075
2077
unknown - 2022-10-26T233259.541.png

Anonymous
No.2076
2078 2079
>>2051
A lot has happened ever since. Barely any cyb-dystopian universe ever contemplated the death of the artist, for example.
Anonymous
No.2077
>>2075
That image is funny LOL
Anonymous
No.2078
>>2076
Death of the artist? Like when you ignore the artist's original intentions to see the message you want to see in his work?
Anonymous
No.2079
2082
>>2076
>Still salty about AI art
Artists aren't dead. At worst the furry porn economy will implode.
Anonymous
No.2082
2083 2085 2104
>>2079
>Yet
Damn, you western cucks always fail to see anywhere further than your griffin noses.
Anonymous
No.2083
2086 2088
>>2082
Art will never be replaced by AIs no matter how good they get.
Even if it becomes indistinguishable from human output, and it wont because machines cannot have original thoughts, manmade art will still have appeal. The appeal of "a human made this".
Anonymous
No.2085
2088
>>2082
You're failing to see how AI can and has been an incredible tool for artists and memers alike.
And just because AI art may be good won't stop anyone from making their own art. Nobody's taking your pencils and paintbrushes away. You can always make art yourself.
Anonymous
No.2086
>>2083
It's not even a question of appeal, or attention or markets. Humans naturally make art. So long as there are people there will also be artists. Even if humans were living in fallout shelters below ground because some rogue AI overlord tried to exterminate them, they would still be drawing on the walls.
Anonymous
No.2088
2090 2091
>>2083
>because machines cannot have original thoughts
You clearly don't understand how the technology, or even the human creative process works.
>"The appeal of "a human made this".
<"That's cool and all, old man. But I can always just use a calculator, you know? How does it feel wasting your life on some stupid numbers? Go ahead, post it on chinktok if you will. Maybe somebody might believe you and throw you some cookies."

>>2085
Yeah, you are clearly not alone in your optimistic delusion. Maybe learn to think farther ahead than dinner.
Anonymous
No.2089
>Digits of truth
Daily reminder uncle Adolf would have seen the destruction of the western soul for what it is.
Anonymous
No.2090
2092
>>2088
You've yet to explain how any of this is bad.
Anonymous
No.2091
2093
>>2088
>calculator
Calculators didn't make people stop doing math. They just streamlined certain parts of math.
Anonymous
No.2092
2094
>>2090
You sure about that? This isn't the first thread. Thus far the only counterarguments have been rooted in assumptions that ignore the continued development of machine learning. It's almost like they've just heard about the technology.
Anonymous
No.2093
2094
>>2091
Not the brightest amongst us, I understand. Try to get an adult to help you get it.
Anonymous
No.2094
2096
>>2092
Both sides are full of assumptions.
If (You) specifically understand what the long term impacts are, reiterate it now.
>>2093
Same goes for you.
Anonymous
No.2095
2097
"Arguments" for the religious belief that technology will go haywire one day and oppress us itself ignores how it is being used to oppress us now.
You cannot prepare for a supposedly "inevitable" robot takeover with an AI of superhuman intelligence at the helm.
We would only have any hope of winning if we had self sufficiency no AI or Jew can sabotage, a way to disrupt the AI's control over any drones or killbots it might send our way, and the means to kill any humans or niggers or jews it might send our way.
Speculating wildly on how scaaawy the robot uprising could be ignores how unrealistic it would be and how many issues affecting us right now are more important than fellating imaginary AIs.
TLDR Eliezer Yudkowsky is a faggoted jew charlatan "self taught AI expert", and professional lying shitbag who makes his millions off the fears of retards who saw too much Terminator 2 growing up.
Anonymous
No.2096
>>2094
How did this private schooling session started? >>2047
I am afraid Pigeon man is right. Absolutely everything that can be interpreted through digital means, can and will eventually prove to be astronomically more efficiently done by AI.
Rejoice on your stupid pics for now, (you) are next.

Am still surprised how these niggers can't connect the dots yet. They can't stop talking about agenda 2030. It shouldn't be hard to see how they won't even need us, sooner or later.
And that's just about this particular thread.
Anonymous
No.2097
2098 2104
>>2095
Except humans actually win in Terminator. Ironic how even in a dystopia like that, art still remained as the Human-uplifting treasure it should've always been.
Anonymous
No.2098
2100
>>2097
Humans win in terminator because the authors wanted it to happen that way.
Realistically this AI has total control over earth. He could fill the atmosphere with poisonous gasses.
And then make portals into the past to send flesh covered bombs into the past to kill Sarah Connor's grandparents before anyone knew enough about science to say "Looks like this bomb was... in my expert opinion... covered in flesh before the explosion? Weird. I don't know what to make of this. Must be something a weird pervert did. Aint like I can use CCTV cameras to notice the bomb was warped in."
Anonymous
No.2100
2101 2103 2104
>>2098
>And then make portals into the past to send flesh covered bombs into the past to kill Sarah Connor's grandparents
Google Roko's Basilisk.
Anonymous
No.2101
2102
>>2100
Way ahead of you.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ONRzXHhBMuY
Anonymous
No.2102
>>2101
Roko's Basilisk relies on tards who think its creation is inevitable because everyone working on it won't discuss how they're all being blackmailed by the threat of the future existence of the thing they're creating. And the belief that an AI would immediately begin making up smaller AIs inspired by people from the past and torturing them instead of getting on with its fucking job now for the people alive now and in the future really says a lot about LessWrong and its Fanatical Materialist belief that a copy of you becomes the real you after you die. These demoralized cryptocommie faggots don't just deny the existence of a soul, they deny the existence of an individual, the self, a continuous uninterrupted existence not even the most flawless replica can replicate.

LessWrong is really just a bunch of nerds with their heads in their rears who assume they're more intelligent than everyone else while just being extremely out of touch.

When you think about it, this situation can't happen unless the AI is deliberately designed to be insanely into solipsism instead of doing good shit for the people alive when it exists, so the obvious way to beat it is to just never make it nor include the moronic programming of insane solipsism into such an AI with that much power in the first place.

At the end of the day Roko's Basilisk is Pascal's Wager for niggerbrained fucktards.
Anonymous
No.2103
Oh, and of course...
>>2100
If it is truly inevitable for one basilisk to exist, there will be more than one.
For every one you helped build there will be others you did not help to build, wasting computational cycles making AIs designed to imitate you get buttraped by fire demons or whatever ironic punishment the basilisk chooses.
All that has to happen for the Basilisk to not exist... is for people to recognize how retarded it would be to invest the time and money to make a god AI with no safeguards, no three laws compliance, and a fetish for buttfucking simulated copies of quintillions of long dead people instead of spending all its cycles doing shit in the here and now.
Well, in the somewhere and then. From the moment the AI exists and onwards. Perhaps after fighting a war or two against AIs created specifically to be evil. Only jews would make something like that.
Maybe the real Basilisk was the necessity of Jew extermination we noticed along the way.
Anonymous
No.2104
2105
4387E1D77A0C9558DDC8000D0EE5CC48-191550.png
>>2097
On the plus side Skynet was sexbots. A lot of problems in media and rl stem from a lack of Pones
>>2100
The thing about Roko's Basilisk that freak them out so much is they already believe themselves to be in a simulation.
Which implies that they units they do specific actions in a specific way will ensure they have whatever horrible outcome be done, because...
There's no reason, no emotion, no logic, no plan, or it can be any reason, any emotion, any logic, any plan.

The thing is they don't extrapolate What Roko's Basilisk stems from. The wider implications.
Except that it's already covered by Pascal's Wager (extended).
>Neutral stuff happens.
>Positive stuff happens.
>Negative stuff happens.
>Seemingly Random stuff happens.
>Mix of stuff happens.
Doing things based on unknown criteria and responses has an edge of insanity. That vital human spark that makes impossible things be made real. But also exemplifies some top tier retardation.
>>2082
Artists won't die. Just as multigenerational oration fell out of practice so too will artists.
You could buy (load in your printer) an autheicly recreated painting of famous/whatever works. With depth and textures or whatever else.
Costs of all media go down.
There's a labor surplus of machines, cheaper than humans ever will be.
Now you need a job for all the unemployed artists. They'll probably keep making art for buyers as it is now. Difference being is they have even more competition. Every work they make is training algorithm fuel.
I'm sure some enterprising artist will skip the whole making the art bit, and go right to mashing a style template with a handful of other artworks already out there.
Anonymous
No.2105
2106 2108
ExoSkinV1.png
>>2104
>ywn dress your steel sexbot in a plush suit for comfort and safety because you can't afford a HorseFlesh SimSkin suit
I bet the proliferation of AI generated content will cause a cultural shift away from content that feels soullessly churned out by an algorithm for focus tested bullet points and towards riskier unique untested ideas.
One can only hope this means the death of marvel's content sludge pipeline, or at least a cultural shift towards laughing at losers who like overly mainstream soulless corporate shit again.
Anonymous
No.2106
2108
>>2105
>the proliferation of AI generated content will cause a cultural shift away from content that feels soullessly churned out by an algorithm for focus tested bullet points and towards riskier unique untested ideas.
This is a fascinating idea. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. As AI content saturates markets, the only way to shine would be to think up truly unique, over-the-top avant garde ideas.
Anonymous
No.2108
1573698049964.jpg
>>2105
I would like to hope so. But I'd rather wait and see it. You know what they say. Hope is cope. Hope and faith are the rallying cry of the lazy, and the excuses of the weak.
>>2106
Unless we get a Mikhail Tal of art. The last man to ever beat the machine. And then its done.