/vx/ - Videogames and Paranormal

The eclipse screenshot was from last night but forgot to post it.

>>134917
>>134919
>1st image
The comment is the center of attention because it has 1.4k likes, 69 comments and was made 9 months ago, the likes is obvious since it refers to the 14 words, the 69 is showing that the 14 words is thought about by more people and there is something else going on behind the scenes in the astral dimension, it was made 9 months ago and it is the 9th month now which means the 14 words are going to come into play by next September.
The comment itself speaks about the new generation which is funny if you look at the numbers.
>2nd image
I see four 9's in this one and there is also a 666, over the next 4 months by new year there will be a lot of Satanism in the media in winter since the album is called "Sun of Man IV" and it even has IV which is 4 and there is four 9's which means there is a lot of numbers repeating themselves, maybe inside of January there will be a great enforcement by the police.
>3rd image
76 9 and 5 are the only non repeating numbers, there is a lot of things referencing me or that's what i see since the 12th of this month was 7 years since it was posted and that was the night i saw the orb, it says something about secrets revealed under the eclipse and further restrictions by then.
>4th
This one doesn't really have any meaning other than me learning and using chi at some point, a slight nod to me spreading Vril.
>5th
This one is referencing Hitler in the use of black magic, mostly occult symbolism and there is 1.9K likes, 12.1K subs and 191 dislikes, add 2 and two 9's together and you get 20 which is funny since the date it was posted happened on the 20th of the 2nd month so you a couple of 20's, i think it means there is a lot of shit that's gonna go down in the future, essentially the people in power want to make this year hell.
>Pic related
Four 27's in this that i just saw, the beginning of a great fire on the last day of January in Washington, i see the white house or the pentagon involved in this somehow.
I closed my eyes and saw the pentagon shape.
Maybe a witch hunt by the glow niggers on the internet or the internet will go up in flames around that time, there are a couple of possibilities for this one but one of these will happen around that time.

>>134922
You're literally pulling shit out of your ass based on likes and shit of youtube videos.

>>134923
Well the same thing happens in cards, you pull a card which has a number on it and has a certain affiliation with symbolism and the stars, the videos are music and there is almost always a form of reference in the lyrics to something unless there is no lyrics but the name of the song influences the meaning the most.
Are you going to actually try and make an argument this time against my techniques are you talking shit again?

>>134926
So just renaming things, because I fucked up.
Well I suppose here and now's a good of a time as any.
Lastly I asked what would happen if I did share these results. Once again honesty is the best policy in the long run.
>pic the first.
The next three in actual chronological order is of the tree reading.
More coming in the next post.
>>134927
>>134928

>>134929
Why are you posting these here?
Do you want me to spoon feed you?

>>134930
Nah, I just had to post them here. It's what needed to be done at the moment.

>>134931
Okay then.

>>134922
Let me see if I've got this straight. You're suggesting that because a guy put 666 in his name and posted a youtube video, that means theres gonna be a push by the mainstream media towards satanic influences in a year or so.
This is beyond parody.
There's a city in CA where all the phone numbers start with 666, you'd love it there

>>134933
>>134934
Okay so you are talking about California and the video up-loader now? What does that have to do with what i have posted?
And i thought Nigel was the number 1 at derailing but it turns out we have a competitor to take his name.

Seriously though if there is 666 in California then that is obviously a occult method of control, i don't think you have any idea what magic is so i would recommend you to:
>lurk moar
As so far you have not backed any of your claims and neither have you made a solid statement other than.
>(You) are wrong because i said so
Which is pretty childish of you, there is nothing that is solid to your sentences as they are without foundation, literally Reddit tier responses.

I can see you don't understand and you are angry because of it, you can either help yourself or remain dumb fully angry without thought.

>>134935
What does the videographers name, which you derive the 666 forecast from, have to do with it and why am I bringing it up? Are you mental?
>lurk moar
No u. You seem to be laboring under the delusion that you and your methods are immune to criticism, and that anyone who 'doesnt get it' is buttmad because reasons you probably divined from your latest gas station receipt (excuse me, 'petrol'). Your error is compounded when people who do know what they are talking about reference the fact that you are clearly an overzealous attention whore who feels entitled to 'impress, wow, and minister' to the vapid unwashed who are not on your level, who you then claim are not on your level.
Make no mistake, I'm not offering a counterparty method of metaphysics (numerological or otherwise) because your method is not credible enough to warrant it. Candle meditation has more legitimacy than what you are trying to pass off as numerology.

There's fundamental breakdown of communication going on here.
>>134936
What's the core point you're trying to make?

>>134936
>What does the videographers name, which you derive the 666 forecast from, have to do with it and why am I bringing it up?
The channel controller is different from the band or the song as they almost never have anything to do with it when they are only uploading the songs, they did not create them so it does not belong to them, the date of the upload might but the name does not essentially play a part in it because they are not associated with the song or band.
It does not matter who uploads the songs since the guy has uploaded way more songs than just that one, so you are connecting opposite things together which are insignificant.
Are you mental?
Probably more sane than you, you resort to calling me crazy now because you can't see what the point of it is, i am the opposite of your brain patterns which you see as an anomaly thus you view me as alien.
>No u.
for (You)
>You seem to be laboring under the delusion that you and your methods are immune to criticism, and that anyone who 'doesnt get it' is buttmad because reasons you probably divined from your latest gas station receipt (excuse me, 'petrol').
I am not immune to criticism but i have yet to see a proper critical question that opposes my ways come from you so i am still waiting for a ear-raiser, but you lack the essential way of criticizing since your only way of breaking down what i am doing is just pointing to them being numbers without telling the why or how they are wrong.
Show me why and i will listen, i am waiting for it but it has not yet come.
>Your error is compounded when people who do know what they are talking about reference the fact that you are clearly an overzealous attention whore who feels entitled to 'impress, wow, and minister' to the vapid unwashed who are not on your level, who you then claim are not on your level.
Depends on the question raised, if i have thought long on something and have assumed a clear path of thought on the subject then i will defend it devoutly but when proved wrong i understand, i think about what makes something work and what doesn't so this way of divination works because it is completely random, you cannot control the exact number that a video has but you can control a store bought item since that is specifically priced according to-rules and regulations, so that is what makes it suitable for influence from the forces.
I am attempting to go above the normal man as i have always been unequal to everyone and no one is truly equal due to genetics and race.
>Make no mistake, I'm not offering a counterparty method of metaphysics (numerological or otherwise) because your method is not credible enough to warrant it.
Again you claim i am not a "worthy" opponent of debate so you repeat yourself by not explaining why i am wrong, you run circles without a second thought.
>Candle meditation has more legitimacy than what you are trying to pass off as numerology.
Okay this is getting pretty funny, you compare candle meditation to random number divination which is evident you have no idea what you are saying.
You are spitting claims that i am a plastic messiah without explaining why, yet again.

So far you have been disappointing with every post, you claim to know magic but do not show that you do, you claim i am fake without really explaining why, you claim that numbers are a inadequate way of performing divination without explaining how and lastly you make unrelated comparisons to unrelated subjects.
What are you? Some sort of cryptic keeper of knowledge who doesn't share his toys of wisdom? Fucking hilarious.

>>134937
OP is a faggot
>>134938
>using random numbers to pull shit out of my ass is way more legit than staring at a candle to pull shit out of my ass
While I would leave it at that, theres an important message there.
What do your 'numerology' methods have in common with candle meditation? The person doing it.
I'm not saying you shouldnt pull shit out of your ass based upon random numbers, I'm just saying you should be willing to call a spade a spade. What you're doing is a form of mentalism; I see this, which I correlate with that. It's not numerology at all.
Tl;dr. If you wanna read tea leaves and larp as nostradamus, have fun with that. You're still just reading tea leaves and larping as nostradamus.

>>134939
When did i say candle magic is inferior?
I am not experienced in it so i prefer to use methods that i have found that suite me, if that bothers you then so be it.
You can call it whatever you want but i am looking at how the numbers correlate with each other and deducing my methods from them, if i am performing "mental-ism" then i wouldn't need numbers.
Still waiting for that gospel.

You also seem incapable of debate, why is that you cannot refute my points but instead swerve around them and call me names?
I don't listen to you because of your arrogance as you are filled to the brim with it.

I offered a detailed explanation and you have ignored them, you bring nothing new to the table, YET AGAIN.

>>134940
Incorrect. Mentalism is all about stimulus response; for you, the random numbers are that stimulus.
>>134941
>arrogance
No u
>offering nothing new
That's not true at all. That its neither to your liking nor what you think it should be is immaterial. But okay, I'll throw you a bone.
The whole point of numerology is to understand the significance of numbers and then use them deliberately to achieve a greater degree of order in your life by their observance and application. The end goal being to sort yourself as an individual in the process of becoming a more formidable and competent individual. It is not however, intended to be a vehicle by which to tilt at windmills while employing an absurd and unwarranted sense of megalomania with reference to the topic.
Tl;dr. You're supposed to use numbers to become better, not to self-aggrandize on the internet about your speshul powerzzz

>>134938
Hey. Same dude here who suggested making this thread on /vx/ a while ago. I've been coming to check out what's going on here periodically. This is the point I feel I should jump in, as I think there are things here you failed to notice. But before that, some backstory to put what I'm about to post into context:
I'm a skeptic, and tend to not believe in gods and supernatural things. Well, more accurately, I don't believe stuff just because people said so. The more complex one's claim is, the more proof it needs, the more ready they need to be to answer any follow-up questions. As our time is finite, the inverse tends to be the case. The more complex your claim is, the less you are able to sufficiently demonstrate that everything it encompasses is the actual truth. Hence people rejecting stuff like holy books and complex ideologies right from the start. They are skeptics, critical thinkers, and I am among them.
That said, I have learnt long ago to be respectful towards you wizard types. Just because I don't take someone's word for something, that alone doesn't mean it can't be the case, it just means I personally don't take it for granted.

So, onward to the point: The burgerbro you are replying to is a skeptic, but an especially retarded one. His stance is that your divination method straight up doesn't work, not because your method is flawed, but because he believes divination itself is just fiction.
First he tried larping a bit with
>Make no mistake, I'm not offering a counterparty method of metaphysics (numerological or otherwise) because your method is not credible enough to warrant it.
letting the reader believe he's just saying your methods are shit, but doesn't outright claim he rejects the whole concept.
I started typing out this reply, but then he posted this, stepping out of the facade >>134939
(And the post ended in a 9. Make of that what you will.)
So, just to clear things up, know all of this and treat his posts accordingly:

-He rejects the whole notion of divination. In fact, he conflates number-based divination with numerology.
-He doesn't know this whole random number divination shit is pretty old and an integral part of chan-type imageboard culture.
-He also doesn't know that it is in essence an Internet-age rebirth of Jungian synchronicity, stepped up to turbo-speed.
-He probably doesn't know what half of these words even mean.
-Him using the term "mentalism" is meant to drive home the point that what you are doing is akin to what a magicians do. He's calling you a magician. A prestidigitator. He's also kind of implying you're tricking yourself too, and not just the audience.

And considering all of the above, I think it is worth to ask:
>>134943
What the actual fuck are you doing on /vx/, lad? This is the home of video games and the paranormal. This thread fits the latter, and it is clearly addressed to people who either have an interest in this type of "random number divination" / synchronicity interpretation / whatever you want to call it. It isn't about discussing whether divination itself is valid or not, it is literally just about Bong Anon reporting his findings he achieved through a method he believes to work. So, again, what the fuck are you doing here? If you feel like venting about how this shit so fake, then go write a blog post about it or something, because nobody here cares. Not even the lurkers. You think it's not real? Okay. Read it as fiction and move on. OP was sensible enough to not shit up other threads with his posts related to this when pointed out he's being off-topic. So kindly don't shit up this thread with trying to convince the self-proclaimed divination wizard that he's actually a magician. Thank you.

>>134943
I offer you this, i understand the significance of the numbers and i use their meaning to compose an idea of the future by observing them, that is all i am doing, i am not going away from the meaning of them but instead i look at how they interact with the other numbers depending on the level of random repetition.
Do you have any backup to your claims of how numerology works? Or are you repeating yourself for the 6 millionth time?
I am applying my force onto the numbers and seeing how it bounces between each of them, i am not going crazy as it depends on how much i am concentrated on them which usually produces an effect from them, if there is no effect or way it correlates with the specific song or other numbers then it is a dead end but when there is a repeat of certain numbers then i pay attention to the ones that spike my interest.
>>134944
Skeptics are usually great thinkers, i do not believe the modern works of modern science since it seems to be all mere guess work.
I used to be one but i wondered if there really is something more than meets the eye, so i delved deep and found somethings which rustled my curiosity which lead to further investigation and came to the conclusion that there is something than just us but most men do not wish to look or find out just because they are bored.
When you call out to something and that something responds in a way you never expected it changes you, as when there is no other way it could possibly be anything else i realized i am not alone.
To find out if something exists you must search for it and decide if it exists or not from your personal findings, basically you need proof before you start believing in fairies as most of the shit you hear everywhere is nonsensical make belief or is simply just a story without anything else to prove it.

>>134944
>why are you here?
I'm a metaphysicist; this sort of thing is my avocational stock and trade
>clarifications
The last one is spot on, but the rest is abject horseshit, though its amusing that you think I dont recognize divination as being legitimate.
Bong anon could gave saved himself alot of this had he given more emphasis to the fact that these are his subjective impressions rather than being objective conclusions, with an admittedly self-concocted method that so far doesnt pass the sniff test. But now I'm rather enjoying myself and since we ARE discussing the topic at hand, you'll pardon me if I opine as I feel the inclination. No thanks are necessary

>>134948
>I'm a metaphysicist; this sort of thing is my avocational stock and trade
>Bong anon could gave saved himself alot of this had he given more emphasis to the fact that these are his subjective impressions rather than being objective conclusions
Didn't think I'd see one here.
Well since you're here do you happen to believe in scientology or some wack ass shit like that?
What exactly kind of metaphysicist are you?
I am a psychologist. I cause the world to shift and tremble not at my command, but because it is what must be.
I am a chaos magician. A layman of metaphysics, and connoisseur of mystery.
All useless titles that mean jack shit without from proof. So feed me faggot.
What say you?

>>134944
Excellent post frien.

>>134948
You:
>you think I dont recognize divination as being legitimate
Also you:
>>using random numbers to pull shit out of my ass is way more legit than staring at a candle to pull shit out of my ass
>If you wanna read tea leaves and larp as nostradamus, have fun with that. You're still just reading tea leaves and larping as nostradamus.
You are referring to divination as a one pulling shit out of one's arse. Couldn't be more clear. So either give an example of actual divination, or fuck off.
>haha you're just saying random shit
Is not a critique of a certain method of divination, and is much more likely to be (I think correctly) interpreted as a rejection of the concept itself.
>The last one is spot on, but the rest is abject horseshit
Thanks for confirming you do not even understand the concepts mentioned in the first 3 clarification points. At least read the wiki page on synchronicity FFS.
>we ARE discussing the topic at hand
You want to discuss his method (whether out of curiosity or to point out faults)? Good. Try actually doing that then.
You are not discussing it, you are just stating over and over again that OP is full of shit. That's not discussion, and if that is all you have to say, then one short post would've sufficed. At this point this is drifting into derailment territory, so I'll leave you with this: Either post something that actually furthers the discussion, or don't expect a reply.

>>134950
Luciferian, since you asked
>scientology
Belief? Are you draft? Having said, there is wisdom to be gleaned from studying any/all all traditions including scientology, not that one should ever promote scientology unironically.
But now we ARE getting off topic.
The thing about divination is that one is accessing ALL potential futures, not just that which is inevitable. It is for this reason that everyone - particularly the person divining - needs to take with a grain of salt what their findings are. The problem with the divining method indicated (at least as its explained) is that the user is susceptible to all sorts of energetic phenomena that can skew their results.
>>134952
Yes, divination is literally pulling shit out of your ass. The method is supposed to metaphysically filter out unrelated input and thought. Didnt you know that? I'm being cheeky in my reference, but that alludes to taking everything with a grain of salt which by the way, was the point of my nostradamus quip (it was aimed at OP's grandiose sense of self, not the practice of divination). When I perform ritual, I literally call it "the song and dance". Its deliberate irreverence, but since terse language seems to bother you perhaps I should use more.
>thanks for clarifying
You're welcome. I'd hate for you to not know how laughably misguided your conclusions are.

>>134953
>Luciferian
Self divinity and all that right?
Well, I have to say being an excessive dick tends to have a negative outcome over time.
>The thing about divination is that one is accessing ALL potential futures, not just that which is inevitable. It is for this reason that everyone - particularly the person divining - needs to take with a grain of salt what their findings are. The problem with the divining method indicated (at least as its explained) is that the user is susceptible to all sorts of energetic phenomena that can skew their results.
Finally something that makes sense.
From what I see the number bit is being in the right place at the right time noticing and connecting meanings that on the physical level have no real connection, but due to the momentum and putting stuff together from that perspective the fabricated information shows some relevance to this reality and timeline. The knowledge base, and current views of reality as well play a part.
A constant living ritual if you will. It is in this case more attuned to this reality and the subset of futures. Having entities that actually want to see (((them))) fail does help a bit. Normal amount of interference by them as well.
>inevitable future
It's a bit more pliable than that the 'higher' 'up' and 'out' you go. Many have some invested interests in specific futures.
More importantly I have an interested interest.
>I'd hate for you to not know how laughably misguided your conclusions are.
Well pulling out useful positions out of your ass just means when you ride a bike with the seat off its the usual.

>>134957
>normal interference
Is that what this is then?
>>132978
>Obviously i have not been discreet so the glow niggers might be hot on my ass trying to find me as this is something they probably don't want (You) fags to know, if i am abducted please know that this is the best Chan on the internet
Cuz that looks like more than 'normal interference'. I mean, the latter part is accurate, but the rest seems a bit reaching

>>134958
That's not interference, interference is the degree of which divinations and predictions are reliable and true to.
Akin to someone hiding the fact there is a building in the future that will become a hot spot. The ripple effects are there, but trying to do a read on that an entity might try to feed in some bs to throw off the prediction. Or a message being twisted and misinterpreted do to outside influencers.
>>Obviously i have not been discreet so the glow niggers might be hot on my ass trying to find me as this is something they probably don't want (You) fags to know, if i am abducted please know that this is the best Chan on the internet
What's wrong with this? It seems fine to me.
Sure the likely hood of being in a physical altercation due to a random anon correctly predicting stuff is kinda slim. They would bury it in bullshit, and proceed to go about different means and methods that would get the job done. Not to mention the degree of competency.
It's not "There are glow niggers hot on my ass AHHHHH!" it's a deduction that the information could prove to be valuable. In the worst case he said his piece.
Silencing anon would be counterproductive, sure they would do all they can to discourage and disincentivise magic.
This is communication, and human based perspectives that can hold erronious judgments, and emotional charges, and altered states of mind.
That doesn't mean the divination is wrong, or that it failed. It doesn't even mean that the means of how it's typed is wrong either nor that a different phrasing would get the right message across even if it's not exactly what the direcr divination said.
It's useful information.

The logical progression of events make sense from a certain point of view, and the necessity for stating that is useful by also making doing so problematic as others are alerted of Anon's absence.
Reality is on a technical level is strange as fuck.

Alright i was just doing tarot cards and as i was shuffling the pentacles of nine fell out upside down,
The card's reversed meaning reads as
>Heavy debts, or a successful life that rests on misfortunes of others. Dangers of theft.
This might haves something to do >>134959
This anon since his dad had a dream which involved theft, watch out anon in case anything goes down around you.
Is there by any chance you are a earth sign? I don't mean for you to give your date of birth but are you a Taurus, Virgo or Capricorn? Because the pentacles is associated with the earth element.

Anyways the cards read as:
1, upside down 6 of wands, this refers to something personal so i am not gonna talk about it here.
2, upside down world card, this is the indication of the new moon since the cycle begins anew.
3, 3 of wands this is a sign of luck so i think i will soon find happiness and the Libra moon will bring some form of luck.
4, upside down knight of cups, this is referring to me leaving Fionn in the past and accepting she is gone. Tfw.
5, upside down justice, this means the law shall soon do something in the near present but before the Libra sign begins.
I expect another crack lives matter thing with a dindu to happen in the next coming days, been a while since some action for the cunts with the controllers so something furthering the burning of California and the increase of nigger ash piles.

>>134977
Well, I might as well make a token appearance of anonymity for now and can't deny or confirm anything.
I will say, I've been getting alot of cards that deal with riches, and nobility.
Also death, and the various situation going on in the world. Chaos and the like. Also evil.
At the end good times. 10 of cups (happiness), and various positive cards (even a 4 of cups for personal related matters at times).
Also to beware of spycraft and the like.

Also sharing and caring and the power of friendship. Also being nepotistic, and generally shitty at the job has consequences. Being lax or lazy looks like it'll be costly.

Asked for a card to share that has meaning. Here's the last judgement.

Fuck didn't mean to post but i accidentally did high as shit right now, which is for easier interpretation so i'll keep it there.
Carrying on:
6, 2 of cups, this is a indication of love returning to me in the future under the Libra sign, i know what it means totally but i won't type it here.
7, upside down devil, this refers to me as well in the magical sense because of the number 7 it is a sign of positive actions to people in the past and drug use.
8, tower, this is number XVI and devil was XV so they have a connection, this indicates something major will happen in the media and somehow bighead narrow nonce's will wake up a bit more. (sheep)
9. 6 of pentacles, (reverse the numbers and you get 69) things will be burned, fueled by demon lives shatter commies.
People will realize Negros and darker in soul then they might think, a well and true nigger will be killed for doing something terrible and fellow baboons will start to howl.

A couple of ones i picked at random but most of them were personal so i'll keep them at heart, got a repeat of V and the five of cups i think has more meaning than the 5 of swords as it refers to the anon in this thread, as 5 of cups refers to struggle and becoming stronger at the end, kind of relating to this anon's >>134978
>At the end good times. 10 of cups,
Because 5 add 5 is 10 in case you don't see the connection.
>>134978
I understand your value of anonymity, the death cards you have been pulling are the most accurate, just feel like they are so i listen to what my body tells me is right.
Laziness is referring to the current state of the world.
>>134979
Motherfucking what, War of the sorcerer was playing when you uploaded this! This is a strong card as the song is about calling up the dead, fucking wow.
This might reference that i am right in my predictions as it is a direct link to me and you.

>>134979
>>134980
Well what do you know, digital Judgement has been pulled again. Double judgement time.
Pulled the lovers next. One moment.

>>134983
>I asked what would be of use, the fool came and answered.
I then forgot to click remane. Again.

>>134982
I have been thinking about the lovers card all day yesterday and when i was doing the cards but never got it.
Here it is now, without me even having to pull it, it tells me something about me being complete inside of love.
This is 100% related to me, it might have a meaning to you but it tells something definitely personal.
>>134983
>>134984
This is something that is meant for you and not me so i can't understand it.

I believe my tarot readings are more accurate then the song numbers, there is something in the numbers but it depends on how many there are, the more numbers that are constantly repeating themselves are better but tarot has more accuracy as i am experienced in doing it on the new moon so it i have found to be easier at this time.

Gonna go to sleep in the next 20 minutes, i'll try tell you whatever before then.

>>134985
Probably I've seen alot of the fool today.

And the knight of pentacles.

>>134987
>>134988
The knight of pentacles was at the front of the pack when i started.
I think the upside down version is more influential than the normal version, what way around was the first knight of pentacles?
The nigger that commits the crime will be of the earth element.

>>134986
Goodnight frien.

>>134989
Makes sense. [s[Do tarot cards dream of mystical sheep?

His zodiac shall be of the earth element.
>>134990
Goodnight and sweet dreams.
have an image of her glory, the goddess of the moon.
She bestows power on this dark phase as it begins anew once again.
>>134991
Probably, they can any meaning to pretty much anything, doesn't matter what but they will tell you about it, if you know what they are telling you.
But this monkey is a bit different as he is soon to be on the spotlight, so the world is getting him dressed up for his big stage show, some shit like that.

Got this gem before i decided to head to bed.
I am gonna try estimate this because i feel in the mood to share it.
Somehow is a reference to this song >>134880
And the anon who got the 777 get on /mlpol/, perhaps his estimations are true.
The only screenshot i didn't dissect is now being dissected.

Have a goodnight, was gonna go to sleep earlier but wanted to study the meaning of this gem, couldn't get any more hidden in plain sight than this bastard.

Fuck forgot the goddamn image.

>>134995
The screenshot references >>134979
The judgement card (You) got because dead is rising from the dead to tell us some anon was right because of numbers.

>>134997
Kek, that's pretty funny, dead's spirit is revived.
>17
>07
>134997
One final hurrah as the dead makes sure we understand the future.

>>132978
One time I bought a deck of Tarot Cards, and shuffled it while turning some handfuls of cards upside-down randomly.
Then I asked the shuffled deck "Who am I?" and drew a card from the top of the deck.
It was Number 21 - The World.
Is this a good sign?

>>135121
No, it proves the cards have a taste for cucked pop music: https://youtu.be/M9BNoNFKCBI

>>135121
>>135122
I think the tarot cards memes a motherfucking jojo reference

So OP, which one of your screenshots is the one that predicted RBG?

>>135121
Was it upside down or the right way around?
I asked "Who am I?" and got the devil card right way up, make of that what you will.
But usually the world card is good.

>>135150
>>135156
I got The World, face-up
and this was before I saw Jojo's.

>>135160
btw I got the "turn some cards face down" thing from the Arcana Force yugioh cards. That's something we're meant to do when Tarroting, right?

>>135160
>>135161
It's probably a good sign either way.

>>135162
Woohoo! I'm The World!
That's got a bigger number than cards like The Star and The Tower, are bigger numbers good?

>>135163
Different meanings and contexts.

>>135163
And i am Lucifer reincarnate, I think i asked who i am before and got the devil so they have given me the same card twice.
Makes sense if i think about it, the devil is powerful and lustful.

Not masturbating is a good way of focusing your emotions since you are controlling them by doing this and a lot of shamans in the world practice a form of no fap, they will abstain from sex and ejaculation for about 2 weeks then do their rituals, i'm gonna try stop myself from masturbation for a while to see the difference in my work, something to do with the dopamine receptors fucking up concentration from the ecstasy of ejaculation, i don't jack it often but as of recent i haven't had easy access to pleasure so i don't see the point in doing it at the moment since mares are better than my hand.

What happened to the abnormal dreams thread?
Was gonna post my dream there but i will post it here now.

I was picking apples or something from a tree when i looked behind me and saw 2 niggers coming towards me, i didn't care so i continued picking them when they passed me and tried stealing my shoes because i was barefoot for some reason and ii went furious and chased them and beat them to death.
I buried the one who didn't really do anything and cut the other one into chunks and burned each piece of him in a fire but kept the heart.
I then went into the forest and found many weird looking mushrooms which were all rotting, i don't remember the rest of this dream as it quickly transitions to another one which is about flying war planes and crashing in a jungle
>>135174
Thanks for the (You) maybe my dream will make you think i'm less crazy.

>>135173
Have another one.

>>135173
>And i am Lucifer reincarnate
Mmmmm, you're not. You're trapped in the material world with no power except the one you "feel", which actually is a localized and temporary state of mind, soon you will fall into a depression and will try to blame it on demons or whatever you can rationalize.
>Makes sense if i think about it, the devil is powerful and lustful.
Think about it, the need for carnal pleasures ins't godly at all, but belongs to lowly mortals.

>>135177
I don't claim to be a Satanist, i never chose the cards but that is how i interpret the devil card's relations with me.
>Mmmmm, you're not. You're trapped in the material world with no power except the one you "feel", which actually is a localized and temporary state of mind, soon you will fall into a depression and will try to blame it on demons or whatever you can rationalize.
Yes i can see depression coming but it won't be at the fault of demons but rather restrictions, i have never liked being restricted from doing my own things.
>Think about it, the need for carnal pleasures ins't godly at all, but belongs to lowly mortals.
Yes, if you cannot control your own needs for pleasure then you are chained to your own desires, but i want to see how long i can keep away from pleasure since i think i have indulged in it too much this year so i need to repent for it, not in the Christian sense but i think the Libra sign is the best time to do this since it is the month of balance and you must achieve a form of balance or else you will fall over.
Nice dubs, you are right about depression and pleasure.

>>135178
Allow me to give you a hint.
Your mind currently is a maze, it's flaring up everywhere and your focus roams without direction. Because of that you are unable to locate yourself in time and space (for example, it's Sunday September 20, 9:37 am. I'm in my room, in a house in X street of the town of Y, in the country Z) (this is a scientology method for newbies). This might sound silly, but it is the most important first step to gain control of your mind. Then your target must be to suppress your carvings for new distractions and silence your mind. This is a huuuuuuuuge job to accomplish and require patience and most of all, perseverance. A silent mind will give you focus to master reality. But as long as you mess with things beyond your reach of comprehension, the mental asylum will be your fate.
Humility is a good virtue anon, come down to earth and heal.

>>135179
>(this is a scientology method for newbies)
* It's an anchor to the physical world.

>>135179
I have never really wanted anything so i already have a preposition of not wanting but instead acting on desires which i have decided finally that i don't want this brain process anymore so this is my current objective, i have no distractions at the moment so i have time to contemplate my decisions in the past and what lies in my future
I don't see myself belonging to an asylum as i am fairly discreet in telling people what goes on in my mind so i doubt that i will end up in a cell, i don't go around telling people that i am Satan's son or that i fuck animals on drugs, if i did that then i wouldn't be here, i am not short sighted.
Patience is a difficult task but i will have to find a way to calm down eventually or my mind won't ever stop running and eventually my minds legs will break in the metaphorical term.
That's what i am hoping to achieve under Libra, a balance of mind and desire, it's the best time to do it as well.

What do you exactly mean by a silent humility?

>>135173
So the devil from an outside perspective is that you've chained yourself in some manner. You are holding yourself in bondage, but not healthy limits. Maybe an outside force is holding you in bondage and servitude.
A faustian bargain perhaps.
>Lucifer incarnate
Perhaps the idea of being the light bringer is appealing.
>>13517 →
>Apples
>and niggers
>doing a cubed nig like the Egyptians and one of their stories.
>kept the heart
>shrooms
Take care anon.
>>135178
A balance and healthy communication with the subconscious, the soul and you.
As of now you are you're own task master. It's not jolly cooperation, but a whip and a way.
It's the means, the how it's done, not just the end result.
>>135179
>Your mind currently is a maze, it's flaring up everywhere and your focus roams without direction.
>Because of that you are unable to locate yourself in time and space
That might forge a connection of when you were and where you are now. I find having friendly faces around each corner to guide me to where I need to be most helpful, ensures my mind is a deadly fortress, and a memetic agent.
>(this is a scientology method for newbies)
>gain control of your mind
Control and domination for your own mind is in my perspective unhelpful. Sure it'll work, if their isn't good will within all parties it's a house eager to collapse. The taking charge is needed though.
>humility
Always, and there is a time for boasts, and grandstanding. It's a balance usually humility is the right option.
>Silence your mind by constantly thinking
It can work.
>>135181
I recommend sorting through your mind and taking notice of the thoughts, feelings, and stuff that comes to mind. Really examine it then do what you will with it.
The occult, and psychology has all sorts of ways to alter the mind so be careful as you do so. Very very careful.
>>135174
>>135176
>>135177
>>135179
>>135180
I'm not really a strong hold for sanity, or common sense, or memory with an actual silent mind (it took time, but most importantly as a kid I thought that if there ever was a mind reader it sure would be handy to just have nothing going on, yet still be in tip top performance). The point I'm trying to say is that what's the point?

>>135182
Ment to do this for the (You)
>>135175
Instead of
>>>13517 →
Sorry about that.

>>135182
>So the devil from an outside perspective is that you've chained yourself in some manner. You are holding yourself in bondage, but not healthy limits. Maybe an outside force is holding you in bondage and servitude.
I haven't chained myself or at least i am not aware that i have sworn an oath to anything, i am not bound to anything.
>A faustian bargain perhaps.
Possibly.
>Perhaps the idea of being the light bringer is appealing.
It's a better title than son of Satan.
>doing a cubed nig like the Egyptians and one of their stories.
What's a cubed nigger and the story?
I have a blood connection to the Egyptians so maybe it is a very deep connection to something in the story, what's the story about?
>That might forge a connection of when you were and where you are now.
I know there is some form of circle that i have made in where i was and am now.
>I find having friendly faces around each corner to guide me to where I need to be most helpful, ensures my mind is a deadly fortress, and a memetic agent.
I am afraid i don't have this commodity.
>Control and domination for your own mind is in my perspective unhelpful.
My mind is like a lone wolf, i have never been able to fully control myself as is the reason why i let myself go sometimes.P.S. Not a furry
>Sure it'll work, if their isn't good will within all parties it's a house eager to collapse. The taking charge is needed though.
I am the main leader of myself but i cannot fully dominate it so i have only been able to establish a trustful bond with it, which works.
>I recommend sorting through your mind and taking notice of the thoughts,
>feelings, and stuff that comes to mind.
Yeah i remember what i think and how i feel
>Really examine it then do what you will with it.
I'll examine it more in depth.
>The occult, and psychology has all sorts of ways to alter the mind so be careful as you do so. Very very careful.
Yeah i know this, i had it happen to me.

>>135185
Ah forgot to include this, but this is where I got the bee and spider analogy.
Uncle Bearheart for some real magic stuff.
>Audio Related.
>I haven't chained myself or at least i am not aware that i have sworn an oath to anything, i am not bound to anything.
>I am afraid i don't have this commodity.
It's all me all the way down. From myself to my conscious, to my subconscious, to my unconscious, to my soul. If I can't recall something it's probably because it's used in magic at the moment or to prevent snooping around in my mind.
The chains the devil has on those two depicted on the card could use their inner divinity and escape those bonds.
https://mythology.net/egyptian/egyptian-gods/set/
>I am the main leader of myself but i cannot fully dominate it so i have only been able to establish a trustful bond with it, which works.
That's good, hopefully the bond with strengthen and deepen. Don't dominate, conquer with friendship and goodness.
>what's the story about?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris_myth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiNLx8h5jVE
At about 6 minutes the tldr. Osiris died because he was inna box (it'sa trap!). His wifey tries to revive him enough to bang him one last time (or they need to find his dick). Set (or Seth) decides that killing the fellow god dude once was enough.
So he cuts up Osiris' body into ~42 peices. Casts it across the desert. And stuff happens after that as well.

So the important part besides kebabbing Osiris, Set is chaotic neural/good doing the job of clearing the way for the Ra the sun god in the underworld. He takes his job seriously.
Or it could also be because he was kicked (or humiliated)
Or Osiris touched Set's daughter and went to take care of business.
Or he was clearing the way for the future to take place than what Osiris could do.
I'm sure there are other stories that has that sort of theme that might be better.

>>135186
>Ah forgot to include this, but this is where I got the bee and spider analogy.
I didn't know about the spider and bee story from him, he made a promise to the Celtic gods? I mean that pretty much tells you that he's on the right path or at least part of it.
>Uncle Bearheart for some real magic stuff.
He seems to know what he's doing.
>The chains the devil has on those two depicted on the card could use their inner divinity and escape those bonds.
Depends on how tied they are to it and the level of intelligence of them, a daemon is usually smart but a normal human is only able to achieve this through deep inner exploration of their mind and spirit.
>At about 6 minutes the tldr. Osiris died because he was inna box (it'sa trap!). His wifey tries to revive him enough to bang him one last time (or they need to find his dick). Set (or Seth) decides that killing the fellow god dude once was enough.
Yeah i know some of the Egyptian mythology but thanks anyways, i didn't know about Osiris's death, i will remember that.
>I'm sure there are other stories that has that sort of theme that might be better.
I think that they are interesting, they have a certain quality of life about them.

Just did a horseshoe spread for the Libra sign but i'll tell you the ones that i believe are worth telling.

4 swords of 7, this is an obstacle to be overcome and 7 of swords is dishonesty, it reads as:
>Direct confrontation to an opponent will not work. You have to be cunning and use your wiles to defeat an enemy. Perhaps you have to sacrifice something in order to succeed.
The suit of swords relates to the element of air and Libra is a sign ruled by air, also when i was shuffling the cards the hanged man fell out and it reads as follows:
>A temporary pause in life. Go with the flow and accept the changes that are occurring. Cultivate patience. Perhaps you have to sacrifice something so something greater can be gained.
I think these two have a connection and i think both of them together mean that we must be patient as the sheep will begin to wake up to how dishonest the enemy is and how they are trying to push their shit. The sacrifice part may refer to how we are sacrificing our freedoms and that eventually the cattle won't be able to handle it anymore as there is a heavy amount of restrictions that's gonna be brought soon which will divide people.
6 wheel of fortune, it tells of a brighter future as long as you don't let others get you down, basically do not be brought down as long as you understand that is the point of these restrictions and it also shows the wheel is turning because of the change of seasons, it reads as follows:
>A 'turn for the better', the end result of past actions and the workings of destiny, which no one can completely understand. An end to current problems and some marked strokes of luck.

I pulled upside down empress at random and i felt an immediate telling that it had a large amount of meaning, the card is ruled by Venus and the Libra sign's star is Venus so more restrictions and tyrannical implementations shall be soon employed, the reversed meaning reads as follows:
>Being over-protective and tyrannical, emotional blackmail and perhaps poverty. Possible problems in pregnancy.
There was a couple others but they are personal so i won't post them.
Also hope you guys made the most of last summer as shit is gonna go down this autumn.
I'm gonna hand a few (You)'s out because i believe i am in a better state of mind then before and now is the right time to go over a few things.
>>135174
>>135176
I don't trust either of you as i think you may be in favor of >>135150
This wanna be king shit and these are your only posts in the thread, so in other words fuck you.
>>135177
I am forced into a material world which i understand is pointless, depression comes an goes, you cannot leave it and you cannot forget it, it is a looming presence ever waiting but it is not worth crying over things out of your control.
Feelings have more meaning then words to me so i base my foundations on how i feel doing something as i trust my instincts better then another persons words, words are just breeze in the air, without something to back them up they are empty.
>>135179
I am in a maze that i can choose to leave or stay and i have decided to leave, i want to come to my senses better and achieve a form of balance so i am planning on how to do this.
What i am getting at is that i am trying to organize my mind better.
>>135182
>>135186
I have been trying to study my own thoughts and i feel like it has helped, thanks.I don't get good advice very often.
>>135187
>>135185
I was really stoned when i made these posts, thanks for the (You)'s cabced6 and i hope you have a good autumn.

>daemons
Yes. In my experience, they are delightful so long as one operates responsibly. Earlier I compared then to wild animals, but that's a bit inaccurate, toward the end of disrespect. That was not my intention . It would be far more accurate to compare them to a dangerous criminal. They have the capacity to do great harm to the unwary and those without a solid foundation. However if those two conditions are dutifully observed, they can be exceptionally pleasant and engaging, not least of which because they're Infinitely bored and lonely. Beyond that, those I've interacted with have been overwhelmingly considerate and informative. You can probably count on one hand how many times a human has respectfully 'approached', to conduct.an honest inquiry, outside the millennia of disinformation. I mean, imagine how grateful an ageless/timeless nazi would feel if suddenly someone came to them asking about the jews; Its alot like that.
And certain ones will tell you everything as a test of how you will respond. Responsibility decorum, class, dignity, these are all their stock and trade.
I'll give you an example. In the story of Hansel and Gretel, who is the villain of the story? Contemporary wisdom tells you 'the withc', but that's a childish/-like impression that hasnt aged well.
Hansel and Gretel are two pampered and entitled brats who have no mind for where is appropriate to go and under what conditions. Upon finding a house made of candy, they throw caution to the wind (moreso than simply wandering into the woods alone) waste no time in consuming it without a second thought, nevermind that the house in no way belongs to them or is within their purview.
To put it bluntly, daemons prescribe to the NAP. This is everything to do with why they dont seek out humans. They're also meticulous about contracts and agreements. Humans feel entitled to change agreements and contracts per their whim, but that's not how energetic agreements work.
To put a fine point on it, I regard daemons more highly than I do an exceeding majority of humans.

>>137457
Well said friend.

>>137459
I'm glad you liked it. Ive only just begun.
It gets even deeper when meeting the principalities, but I'll have alot to explain before I get to that point.
On the subject of responsibility and duty and all in between, one might wonder how one does that. It starts first with research and study. There's no one "correct" way to go about it, especially because different studies will cause the same realizations in different people. Still, as a primer one must first come to grasp their physical, spiritual, and existential sovereignty, and realize that understanding through form. In many occult traditions this involves a ritual or as I call it "the song and dance". And it's not just one song and dance though, if one wants to do it as effectively as possible.
Prescribed rituals can work, but they are ill advised imo, as they were crafted and designed with the authoritative (read: competent) understandings necessary for such forms to function. This is not a prohibition, it's a caveat. One does not stand on the shoulders of giants, one must become the giant.
Declarations/realizations of sovereignty are not the first step either, it's something that comes of years of study and practice. Personally, I recommend developing one's own style, type, and set of tools to/that operate on a metaphysical level. For example, Crowley advised creating one's own set of ritual tools, I just took that a step further and selected tools of a familiar variety and theme.
Next, after realizing one's sovereignty, one must take possession and control of their living space on energetic level. This is often referred to as cleansing, but that's a bit disingenuous, as one tends to have a blind spot in one's bias that can make allowances for entities that one is friendly/allied with.
To wit, it's like building a wall and kicking out all the migrants.
Having crafted one's own tools/tradition, and having sanctified those tools, that living space, and even their clothes (laugh all you want, but the Mormons were onto something with their magic underwear) now one is in a position to interact with daemons warily.
One is I'll advised at putting the cart before the horse.

>>137460
>I've only just begun.
Keep going please.

>>137461
I have two homes which are no longer active, so I'll describe some of the ritual process I used. The first property was a lakeside trailer. Because of its proximity, I utilized the molecular shape of O2 (oxygen) for the geometric considerations. Now when I refer to circles, I'm actually referring to spheres, which have a 3-dimensional aspect, extending above the ground/surface, as well as below. I charted the planetary coordinates of those spheres, charted earth's astrological position in the stars, and designated these all along the perimeter. It was as precise a statement of location as I could possibly affect.
Next, I set a out 'cleansing' the space to my preference.
Now, at some point I read a prohibition on operating on or in water. I'll just say that those prohibitions might be apt for some, but were unnecessary per the method I employed. There is no such thing as 'too much precision' when doing a working, and one is encouraged to go to the fullest extent of their autism in doing so.
Now to the subject of the lake, this presented great opportunities when the lake froze over as it does yearly, and I'll just say that carved ice circles are the shit.
The next property I engaged metaphysically, I did similar to the previous, with the following exceptions. This property had a basement, a significant layout of plants in the yard, and ample floorspace on the ground floor. As such, I opted to use the o3 (ozone) molecule, as related to the structures in and around the property.
In employing oxygen in its various forms, the allusion is to the fact that oxygen is essential for carbon based life, and therefore sanctifyingthe space by way of oxygen (and later ozone, which literally protects the planet) seemed apt. The fact that molecular biology is something of a constant in and outside the planet also seemed applicable.
Now for this second property, rather than lakes and bodies of water I carved my 'circles' in the 1' of snow, using 2' icicles that conveniently appear at that property every year. Crystalline water can have immense metaphysical connotations and effects, and one is encouraged to explore them.
Additionally, for the second property I specified the location on/around the planet on a spherical level, and a sphere existing within a cone, the point of which is referenced by the earth's core. Just a bit more flavor, but all in all it seemed highly successful.

Now, why am I going on at length about rituals
and molecules and all that?
When one achieves their sovereignty and cleanses their space with finality, curious things will occur. One will find themselves less impulsive, and less subject to erratic and unreasonable thinking. And yet, they may observe an increase in erratic behavior and thinking in those they are surrounded by. It is at this point that I must off to the self-protection thread, to address the otherwise cursory position that was made there, about entities and their attention when one studies and practices metaphysics.

Alright, maybe it wasnt the self defense thread. Not sure where it would be then knowing my luck, it was this thread
In any case, anon posited that study and pursuit of metaphysics would put a target on the backs of anyone who engaged, in the eyes of daemons, spirits, etc. This is true to a degree, in the same sense that the pope being in a bulletproof bubble makes him a target for assassins. Yes, it is obvious to such entities when one has done 'the work' because unless one subjects themselves to (in a supplicant manner) contracts, agreements, or exchange in the absence of a deliberate and overt declaration of intent (contract) then they are 'off limits' as far as direct manipulation and interference are concerned.
This does NOT absolve one of the consequences of indirect interference, which comes by way of one's social "peers".
As suggested previously, metaphysical entities do not appreciate being excluded from anything. However, the metaphysicist does not have comprehensive authority to sanctify and guard everyone, only themselves and 'theirs' one of many very good reasons for marriage, if one cohabitates.
Humans are easily manipulated, and unless a person has done a very thorough inventory (ala 12 step programs, not exclusively) they can be painfully oblivious to how easily their thoughts are distracted, misdirected, or their perception can be tainted, or their response to stimuli can be made more or less extreme, or in Some cases their thoughts are simply not their own.
What this means is, consider some of the population as puppets. Certainly not all, but more than enough in my mind. These puppets (in some circles, referred to as Organic Portals) will deliberately (though for the most part, unconsciously) act adversarial to the individual, usully for reasons they can neither specify nor pin down effectively.
Tl;dr it is not the student who comes under the influence (read: manipulation and control) of entities through pursuit and study, it is those around them; the practitioner will be beset by douchebags, and better be prepared for it.
The field of battle is social, not literal, and the practitioner ought to have developed a level of competence in maneuvering social dynamics, as all manner of shenanigens will occur. Influence and confidence games, character assasination, deplatforming of a wide variety, just to name a few.

The big question, which brings us back to Abrahamic traditions, is why.

To illustrate this divide, I'll be drawing from the example of a personal friend and ally. He is an accomplished Aesir, prescribing to Norse mythology and practices.
>inb4 leddit spacing
Yes, I appreciate the distaste, but this is important

The Norse did not worship gods. They were aware of them - as extant entities and archetype - but never did they bend knee, submit, or pray to any of the gods.

In contrast, submission is the first rule of Abrahamic traditions. God is all and infallible, and only by submission can one be spared god's wrath.

The norse regularly cursed and defied the gods, to do less was to BE less.

Abrahamics on the contrary will make all manner of excuses and rationalizations just to maintain the (conditioned) perception that all blessings come from god, but all adversity is the fault of the individual, or even the WILL of god.

One is free, and one is not. The latter will claim to be freed by god, but that's just authoritarian programming. In the world of metaphysics, there are endless scores of entities that are adverse to an individual achieving sovereignty, on a mental, physical, and spiritual level. They will favor those that submit, and be an adversary to those who don't. The intent is BOTH to provide consequence, to discourage the emancipation of the individual, and in some cases to condition it.
You read that correctly, there are entities that will oppose the individual, providing the necessary conditioning to help BREAK the mental conditioning, adverse/destructive contracts, etc.

This alludes to why a metaphysicist is just as suited (in some ways moreso) to interactions with daemons as they are to (sorry, the term, though biased is still apt) Angels. Daemons will not expect/demand submission to god, they expect/demand that the individual have their comprehensive shit together.
Angels however, do not want the individual to have their shit together, they want the individual to submit to THEIR master, which is the Abrahamic god.
Back later with more.

>>137532
Asitru, not Aesir. My bad, I'm not Norse

>>137457
>>137460
>>137484
>>137528
>>137532
Alright i understand all this but what exactly are the effects of the precise circles? What are the exact sizes?
You also mention magical tools too so i will give my piece, the tools must be made with ones own imagination as it is more personal that way and more attached to you rather than just buying a mass produced gimmick, i make my tools with random things i have found on my journeys through old places and fields, you will find some near stuff laying around but don't steal without giving something back otherwise the price is not payed so i treat it like a Minecraft villager deal, give something in return for what you are taking, a iron rod with a sheep bone that fit it like a glove being the main one to name of my collection of weird shit.
The more weird attire you can add to your doings the more profitable the outcome typically is, i use jewelry from my grandfather as part of my work as i have a direct connection to the dead that way, easier to call up my soldiers from their graves when i wear the stuff they wore, also a way of respecting them by doing that.
I have had many things told to me by tarot cards that came true to the exact image of the card in some way, the past couple of weeks have been the most supernatural because it is the right time for it to happen since this time was typical with iron age Celtic ritual and because i live in an area where all this ritualistic druid practices happened it is almost extremely easy to have peculiar things happen, you could say i have resurrected the dead and now they follow me, it's sort of strange but i have a theory that this land was waiting for my return for a very, very long time, as the old spirits of this land are familiar with my ancestors and recognize me for who i actually am because it did not take very long for things to start occurring around me when i began re introducing a recreation of traditional Celtic ceremony's into my work, that is why i think the mushrooms are a main part of this as the most unusual things began happening when i started taking them as a part of spiritual findings.
You can ask whatever about my works as i am not afraid to admit anything if you ask something not too specific.

>>137541
>you can ask me about my works
I'm sure any interested parties shall do just that

>>137573
Not many people are interested in preserving old traditions and magical practices from the past, it has been demonized and forgotten by numerous other cultures that have replaced the ancient withering ways.
I do not like Wicca's because they do not get the full picture or are as passionate about witchcraft because they are not patriotic of the past, they are untrue and venturing away from freedom by not following the right way of true sorcery that was practiced by the dead men of my land, i am not saying that all of them are bad but they have a reputation for being manipulators and double dealers so watch out for witches, the old ones are the most intertwined with their surroundings.
Druids are a different kettle of fish but i know some just see it as an off branch of Wicca, which it isn't because the Wicca way is a modern spin off of druidism and a couple other things which are not worth getting into, some so called druids are Wicca followers but do not understand the difference so they are not very wisdom worthy, the main difference is that there is 2 main gods in Wicca whereas the druids were Celtic so they had many different gods for specific purposes other than to just worship, the witches worship, i do not because that is submission and i get more attention from the spirit world by doing things out of the box.
The druids did things to get attention from the daemonic dimension by making themselves a friend of the unseen, they did not have a slave relationship between them or a constantly annoyed spiritual position with them but just a peculiar friendship that included gifts given and received as they were both in harmony instead of enemy's, the Christians give themselves and the Jews give others but the druids always gave back gifts only when they were first given, there was a good relationship between them but it was nothing more than a close one, friendship IS magic!
The Aryans were the first horse fuckers, literally, as they were Indo-Europeans that followed a tradition that extended back to the ancient traditions in India. As you can see from the numerous pictures i have posted, the similarities between the rituals in India and the Celtic king ceremony are very close to being the same, this horse fucking tradition is very old to the Aryan.

The spirits i have come into direct contact with know my goal and want to help me along it as they know what i am trying to do, the men of my lands spoke with them but the spirits have been lying in wait for the return of someone who actually wants to replicate and remember the ways that have been forgotten, they have not ignored my call and that says it all, the things i do is what they remember the old men used to do so they have a fascination with me because they had a fascination with the old druids too, what i am doing are not in anger or submission but for the purpose of being friends with everything around me.
There is numerous experiences that have occurred to me which are purely bizarre and would have me called insane but i know what is happening around me or have an idea of it, which is enough to build upon as over time i shall reach what is considered a spiritual breach so i must ignore those who preach.

So now i have written that i have a couple other things to explain about my ways, i am always trying to get attention and it works as you can see from the way this thread played out in the past (You) were the one who gave me the most, whether or not the dust has settled i will try explain it to the best of my ability of how it worked as now the time seems right.
The reason you were so drawn to correcting me is due to a couple factors, first is that you yourself are pretty involved with this as the impression is obvious, even you said hat people become drawn and develop strange behaviors when something has been magically declared as a sign of sovereignty, what i did was magic along with my shit posts just to see what would happen because i'm curious to observe which way other people's reactions are, it was a test more or less, i did a couple of things to spite other people, like you said the vikings commonly cursed the gods and did things out of spite, that is what i did because that in of itself is a form of magic.
All the screen shots i posted were an attempt to gain other fag's attention because you must first gain attention in order to perform any type of communication between yourself and daemons, i got my attention then did the magicians show of playing with people's eyes, the quickness of the hand deceives the eye worked well as i fooled people into thinking i am mad, i am crazy but surely not dumb.
I do have a split personality but that is only when i am pushed, like i wrote that is why i like Luna so much because she reminds of myself, you could say that i am a complete egomaniac for seeing it like that because when i look at her it is like looking into a mirror and seeing myself so i love her like myself, it's a lot easier jerking it to a pastel pony then looking into a mirror and seeing me.

Anyways do you forgive me anon? I have written to you what you wanted to read, now you know my tactics there is no way for me to trick you anymore Or is there? I admit that i always have a card up my sleeve but i am being honest here that i want to be friends, do you accept my proposal of gay marriage? At least it isn't futa.

>>137588
>friend of the unseen
Thats... a surprisingly good way of putting it. Entities are very shrewd judges of Will and Intent. It is not that the practitioner is adverse to any particular entity, outside those that are directly adversarial to the individual. One's competence and awareness of the unseen leads one to (regardless of specific alignment) respect it and what it does/may entail. It's not unlike the affable and confident nature that develops as one gains competence in martial arts.
>>137541
>spheres
I recommend >pic related, not for direct emulation, but for analysis, from which a determination of size and dimension can be made. The spheres are your working space, dont be too stingy, but neither be too
Generous.
>tools made with one's own imagination
Theres a point to be made for that, however I differ slightly. The tools should spark the imagination, and are well suited to be handmade by the principle, but I would argue that function is equally as important as form, in the same sense that the mental does not surpass the physical; they're equally important. I would give you a suitable example that didnt reveal the cypher behind my formulae, but I dont have one. I'll try to think of one though.
>>137588
Getting back to this, yes I am an abrasive individual. I prescribe to the tough love school of metaphysics, where one's claims can be evident or refuted by their response to negative (as in, negating and refuting) stimuli.
It's not unlike the initial reception one might get on their interactions with daemons, except the only consequence from me is potentially looking silly and getting trolled on the internet.

>Thats... a surprisingly good way of putting it.
Yes, it is like developing a new relationship with someone you do not know, you create a bond between them and get to understand them and their ways which make them unique, you become their friend either way or at least get to know them better than before you met them, it is a friendship that can be broken depending on if you or that spirit does something the other does not like, there is nothing binding you to each other permanently other than how the relationship is going.
>Entities are very shrewd judges of Will and Intent.
Certainly, they are always interpreting your direct output to them and decide their next move from what you do, it is like dancing, the dance of the dead.
>It is not that the practitioner is adverse to any particular entity, outside those that are directly adversarial to the individual.
It is very easy to offend both people and spirits equally, you can hurt both their feelings as easy as long as you know where to strike for maximum harm, both are equally dangerous to each other but it is the choice of each participant to either help or harm, spirits are not an exception to this.
>One's competence and awareness of the unseen leads one to (regardless of specific alignment) respect it and what it does/may entail.
Depends, some people get scared and run away instead of confronting their fears, those are the weak who cannot stand up for themselves for they are the only ones missing out on all this power, there is a decision that has to be made purely by the person who is delving into this and there is nothing to be gained from cowering in fear from that of which you cannot escape.
If someone develops a sturdy spirit and learns the forbidden ways there is nothing anyone can do to stop them other than another strong spirit, that is why "devil worship" is so heavily demonized as (((they))) know how it works and are afraid of their cattle ascending higher than (((them))) so they have been trying to put us down in a shallow grave where we only believe there is nothing to save, when in reality there is more to crave.
>It's not unlike the affable and confident nature that develops as one gains competence in martial arts.
They are similar but not totally the same, martial arts are used specifically for hand to hand fighting or defending whereas the dark arts are used for spiritual attacking or protecting.

I will continue later tonight.

>>137593
>>137594
>I recommend >pic related, not for direct emulation, but for analysis, from which a determination of size and dimension can be made.
So basically it's a man sized circle.
>The spheres are your working space, dont be too stingy, but neither be too Generous.
So if i keep my gear in this circle shit will work better? I already use square slabs for altar practice and fires so i have an idea of how this would work.
>Theres a point to be made for that, however I differ slightly.
Alright.
>The tools should spark the imagination, and are well suited to be handmade by the principle, but I would argue that function is equally as important as form, in the same sense that the mental does not surpass the physical; they're equally important.
What sort of function would you suppose is best?
I agree that there has to be a balance as there always is a balance in everything spiritual, there is just more benefit to it being handmade by the wielder as there is more personal meaning by creating it with your own 2 hands, it adds another level of meaning to the brain which makes it more special and it also creates a stronger bond between the object with the person's mind, when you see the object you know it was made with your own hands and it's exact purpose is easier to recognize by the brain, it tells the brain that it's magic time more or less as it activates that neural part of the subconscious quicker, it's a way of sending symbolism directly to the brain.
>I would give you a suitable example that didnt reveal the cypher behind my formulae, but I dont have one.
Secrets should be kept as long as the reasons are somewhat understandable, the occult work is considered the most secretive anyway.
>Getting back to this, yes I am an abrasive individual.
So your a dick is what you're saying. Right?
>I prescribe to the tough love school of metaphysics, where one's claims can be evident or refuted by their response to negative (as in, negating and refuting) stimuli.
So you use negative receptions in order to prescribe judgement upon others?
I wait until what my brain tells me about someone then place my judges upon them, i use multiple things to be able to do it, negative stimulus is also one of them but along with other good stimulus responses, you can't make a full judge on someone without trying both because you have to know what they do and don't like so that your awareness of them is more laid out better, good relationships require full understanding between the 2 party's. Also between a man and a mare as all relationships require a solid foundation of understanding, the common standing ground of love being the most demanding for mutual respect and care, the alchemy of love must be learned if one is to become a true wizard, the Egyptians commonly practiced what was called love magic.
>It's not unlike the initial reception one might get on their interactions with daemons, except the only consequence from me is potentially looking silly and getting trolled on the internet.
I don't really make a big deal out of words on the internet as it's just funny to me, i enjoy messing with peoples heads as it's a mind game that i like to play, i find it humorous to be able to change others perspectives of you so easily as it's apart of people since childhood to base their views of someone from impressions of them, it's a way of being a troll and a trickster to play mind games.

>>137605
>man sized
The proportions of the sphere should allow the individual the space to work and gesture in, without exiting, to my intuition and practice
>If I keep my gear there it will work better
In my experience, yes. The area and tools should already be sanctified, and by keeping them within the space one avoids unnecessary,... particles from landing on or around the tools.
>what function?
That depends on the practitioner. For example, a Viking practitioner might have tools that fit that culture. A sailor would do likewise; in fact, one of those line pegs would make for a most excellent wand, staff, or rod. The tools should fit the user, and whatever function they would prefer to have available from a utilitarian aspect, as well as metaphysical.
>you're a dick
You just noticed?
>negative reception to prescribe judgement on others
Depending on the response, that's one possible outcome. In other cases its to rattle a person's cage and see how flustered or resolute their response is. But that's just one of the cards I will play when getting a measure of a person.
Its far more a matter of gauging whether there is function in engaging the person honestly and unreservedly, than it is an attempt to pass judgement. One doesnt engage in conversations like this willy nilly, especially on the internet, and if I'm gonna, I'm gonna make damn sure it's not a waste of time in advance.

>>137607
Actually, on this one I will provide detail.
The central diameter of my working sphere is 13.37' at the midline, which sits level with the navel from a seated position. I prefer feet to meters when tabulating these things, because a 12-part whole is metaphysically more suitable than a 10-part one, especially in that ratios are more difficult to calculate, from which all manner of numerological significances can be both observed and applied. This area provides more than enough vertical clearance to stand and gesticulate from, including space to walk around the altar or work area, as necessary, while allowing for sufficient space on the altar its self.

>>137607
>The proportions of the sphere should allow the individual the space to work and gesture in, without exiting, to my intuition and practice
Enough space is always a important part, i have messed around with salt circles but not chalk ones so i know what a good size is but thanks for giving an in depth explanation, a symbol in the circle is a benefit so that you can sit on it or have it underneath you as a way of it going directly going into your aura, i use swastikas inside mine as a way of my energy being expelled from the circle easier, the inwards swastika makes going into yourself a more deeper exploration of yourself so when i am meditating it provides another factor to it, the circle by itself is pretty bland but with other meanings added to it you become more attached to it through a mental reminder.
>In my experience, yes. The area and tools should already be sanctified, and by keeping them within the space one avoids unnecessary,... particles from landing on or around the tools.
Taint can envelop an area and has to be made clean thereafter, so it is best to keep a close eye on tools and whatnot, the tools can be charged with energy using different types of crystals and thus must remain clear of spiritual bacteria unless they are to hamper you instead of benefiting you.
>That depends on the practitioner.
Always.
>For example, a Viking practitioner might have tools that fit that culture.
The more personal the tool is the more connected you are to it.
>A sailor would do likewise; in fact, one of those line pegs would make for a most excellent wand, staff, or rod.
A trinket from the seas depths is a clear example of a man from the sea.
>The tools should fit the user, and whatever function they would prefer to have available from a utilitarian aspect, as well as metaphysical.
The function of the tool must be considered, you wouldn't go buying knifes and pick a butter knife for a dinner party, it's common sense.
>You just noticed?
Well by reading the posts in this thread you can probably guess i made a evaluation of you from the get go, i'm just clarifying that you are indeed king cunt.
>Depending on the response, that's one possible outcome.
It's like asking someone about the Jews or Negros, there's always a certain type of response that follows after as you probably know, the way they react from the expressions and body language to words says it all, judgement's on the internet do not work the same way so i cannot properly deduct your movements like i would a horse, you cannot make a complete estimation of someone before having entered their circle of influence.
>In other cases its to rattle a person's cage and see how flustered or resolute their response is.
There is a couple of ways to do that but the way you present yourself should be made more discreet in order to hide your knowledge, you came in like a angry teacher who dislikes emotions so it was easy to see how you were prodding me, you are adapted to it too much and your game is clear from the way you dissect how i labeled you, you pick apart the things that conflict the most with your beliefs so it is made obvious that your opinions are independently crafted, you wrote you have experience with arguing with leftists on the internet which let me know that you know the nature of this shit talking game, it was a lead that i understood clearly, it was a reference to how you have done this before so i knew what you were trying to achieve, it was a flaw in your tactic to let me know you have experience in it so i advise you to not let too much on again, also your argumentative posts are very repetitive and it is very easy for me to see that so i would give you a hint that a change up would create a better result from the other person along with your original style, a creative combination of insults works best to annoy someone as it is like a form of poetry to me, the rhyming of ass stinging is what makes me a druid of mare fluid, it's the work of bastard bard but is necessary to become a druid of stupid rivalry.
>But that's just one of the cards I will play when getting a measure of a person.
It's one of the most important ones, it's a necessity as without it underestimation of one becomes quick so it's a wise card to keep by, i use varying stimuli to be capable of understanding my rival or romance.
>Its far more a matter of gauging whether there is function in engaging the person honestly and unreservedly, than it is an attempt to pass judgement.
The quicker someone decides to love or hate the faster his mental walls will fall, if you prefer quantity over quality than go ahead and make no judgement whatsoever or dwell on it very rarely then you will not be treat fairly, it's a fundamental part of socialization to place personal beliefs on others and individual standards as without it choosing an adequate friend becomes an impossibility if there is no biased standards at all.
>One doesnt engage in conversations like this willy nilly, especially on the internet, and if I'm gonna, I'm gonna make damn sure it's not a waste of time in advance.
It's better to preserve knowledge than have it completely open to another one who feeds from others so serpents must be separated from potential servants, the better someone is in intelligence the better their beliefs generally are, there's a reason why the typical Negro is robbed by his false friends.
>>137608
Measurements do not always need to be as completely precise as this but it's nice to know just how big your dick is sometimes.
Seriously thanks for this, altars do need precision to become a place of power as there is a reason why things are ordered so neatly in a church or a synagogue other than just for showing off.

>>137611
Okay, I'm gonna have to take a minute to determine the most adequate response to this, and not in an adversarial sense I feel we're past that, as much fun as it was. Having said
>king cunt
That is going in my litany of titles, as one of the best compliments I have ever received.

>>137612
>Okay, I'm gonna have to take a minute to determine the most adequate response to this, and not in an adversarial sense
I will wait.
>spoiler
Now can we wank finally each other off as the end of this duel as we are equal? No homo because balls aren't touching
>That is going in my litany of titles, as one of the best compliments I have ever received.
Your welcome, your huffing highness.

>>137611
I can see your point, and depending on the engagement I do vary my strategy; only a fool plays chess the same way every time. But in this instance (in spite of posturing) my intent was not to defeat you, it was to trade blows. I'm satisfied with the methods I used and the results, but I will give due consideration to your criticisms. Unfortunately I generally agree with the bulk of this post and what I dont quite agree with is easily rendered agreeable with a simple qualification or two, though that wouldnt take the conversation anywhere meaningful.
>>137613
>wank eachother off
>pic related
I prefer a good conversation. I'll have more, but it will take some time. I wont go into personal detail, but as with many/most things the timing of our/this exchange has metaphysical significance that I am looking forward to investigating and illustrating.

>>137614
>But in this instance (in spite of posturing) my intent was not to defeat you, it was to trade blows.
Well you can see that i won't let up very easily, no matter what you try to force me to do i will not submit, too many people gave up what was right because they thought it was a lost cause and i will not suffer the same fate by giving up.
>Unfortunately I generally agree with the bulk of this post and what I dont quite agree with is easily rendered agreeable with a simple qualification or two, though that wouldnt take the conversation anywhere meaningful.
How absolutely dreadful, you agree with the ever so evil supreme Satanist, it seems we have more in common than (You) thought after all.

>I prefer a good conversation.
And i like sinful pleasure to the absolute extreme, going so far to become addicted to fucking ponies on the weekly rather than adhere to the human herd, there is nothing more emotionally powerful than cumming in a mare on emotion enhancing drugs, the feeling is like capturing lightning in a cum jar, you can't replicate it.
>I'll have more, but it will take some time.
Some more of what? My magic piss? You will have to patient for more of that and need to keep being a good boy toy.
Like i wrote, i am open to whatever you throw at me.
>I wont go into personal detail, but as with many/most things the timing of our/this exchange has metaphysical significance that I am looking forward to investigating and illustrating.
I bet your gonna start dreaming about me at this point, maybe then you can jerk me off in the dream world.
You couldn't escape my overwhelming presence could (You)?
But really there is a deeper meaning to why you were drawn to me, we are meant to be together you and i as we are a devilish duo, able to raise the dead at the flick of a dick.

>>137616
Just remember that you are a guest, as are we all. Not an order of course; I'm quite aware of the multitude of dimensional consequences of such foolishness. No, this is just a suggestion which I Trust you Will consider.