/ub/ - Überhengst

>>7066
Oh yeah, I heard about that.
Apparently it basically evaded the FDA testing process altogether, slipping through the cracks and being grandfathered in during the period where they were changing testing systems.
All those pills are basically nothing more than snake oil. They were never actually tested. The government is ordering mass recalls.

>>7068
>All those pills are basically nothing more than snake oil. They were never actually tested.
I'm not surprised, really.

>>7069
Not surprised at all? That was a pretty massive fuck-up, even by government standards. It made history.

>>7070
>Not surprised at all?
Nope, most pharmaceuticals don't cure anything and are prescribed as palliatives for masking the symptoms.

>>7071
>most pharmaceuticals don't cure anything
This is only partly true. Approved drugs do have active effects, and those effects can cure people in the right contexts, but the more common use of drugs is indeed to relieve symptoms which can also aid recovery efforts by reducing inflammation and other self-destructive symptoms. Few drugs are actually marketed as cures, but as symptom relief, which isn't the same as snake oil which does absolutely nothing.
Also, this series of drugs in particular wasn't made to be a cure at all, and was not marketed as a cure: it was made to relieve symptoms.
The reason why this was news in the first place was because the active ingredient evaded proper testing due to a massive bureaucratic failure: that's the surprising part.
>prescribed
These were over-the-counter cold medications. You didn't need a prescription to buy them.

>>7072
>Approved drugs do have active effects
Pardon, I meant to say approved drugs "usually" have active ingredients that do something, but as this news demonstrates that's not always true.

>>7093
There aren't very many meds to address high blood pressure caused by prescription meds, that don't cause other problems. Most doctors just go for prescribing lower doses of the meds who's side effects caused high blood pressure, if such a thing is medically possible.
There are many ways to lower high blood pressure aside from medication, most of which tie into your general health. Reduce how much salt, fat and alcohol you consume. Exercise regularly. Lose some adipose fat. Try to limit the amount of stress you're exposed to in life, etc.

>>7095
>There are many ways to lower high blood pressure aside from medication
This. Avoid medicine like the plague.

>>7096
If you have serious hypertension that could kill you in a matter of hours, heart pressure medication can be a life-saving temporary fix. Nitroglycerin, for example, is use to treat hypertension in a variety of emergency situations, such as during surgery.

Ahem.

>>7098
Based horse microbiome.
Give a new meaning to "herd immunity".

>>7098
>>7099
can confirm, this is how everyone drinks water on a farm (in my case, dairy farm, with big crotchtits, fun to fondle)

>>7100
>can confirm, this is how everyone drinks water on a farm
All poners salute this anon.
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>>7102
>Everything doctors know is getting you on medications
This is overstated. Doctors do a lot more than prescribe meds. They also do surgeries, diagnose diseases, and do early screenings to prevent progress of potentially deadly conditions.
The most common thing they do is lecture patients about their obviously-unhealthy lifestyles at the beginning of their appointments, but patients don't come to them just to be told to eat healthier and exercise more, so they tend to demand meds, and if the doctor doesn't prescribe them anything they'll just go to another doctor who will.

>>7104
>but patients don't come to them just to be told to eat healthier and exercise more, so they tend to demand meds, and if the doctor doesn't prescribe them anything they'll just go to another doctor who will.
Yeah. That's sad.

Is this thread actually going to be a discussion of the use and stockpiling of medications, or is it just supposed to be a complication of memes saying never to use medication under circumstances?
If it's the latter, I might make a separate thread about the former.

>>7150
Shitpost and discuss or shut up.

>>7151
It was a question pertaining to what kind of discussion is being had here.
>shitpost
So, the latter. I see.

>>7150
*compilation

Parents declining to inject their children.

If you are a junkie, watch out the dentist.

>>7150
>Is this thread actually going to be a discussion of the use and stockpiling of medications, or is it just supposed to be a complication of memes
Glad you brought it up. Would you like to discuss it then?

Hoard iodine

>>7171
>Hoard iodine
On it.

>>7183
Some of them get written up without ever having received approval too. Usually this is to draw attention to dangerous street drugs being peddled as medicine by snake oilers.

Melody Rain Palombi: 15-month-old New York baby dies two days after receiving three vaccines on same day; mother wants to spread awareness
https://thecovidblog.com/2023/11/17/melody-rain-palombi-15-month-old-new-york-baby-dies-two-days-after-receiving-at-least-three-vaccines-mother-wants-to-spread-awareness/

>>7184
>drugs being peddled as medicine by snake oilers
Yup, we have seen that for more a century already.

>All vaccines are snake oil, & they don't want you to know
>The Amish are a perfect example of a large group of unvaccinated people. No autism. No autoimmune disease. No chronic disease. US Gov study them like a control group.
https://twitter.com/wolsned/status/1725058928415764975

>>7186
lul. lawl even. The judeo-amish are the perfect example of a >90% inbred group of ultra-religious goodest goys that have a 0% chance of surviving without governmental protection and regulations to "ensure their continued existence". Know what else they have? Shitloads of autism, autoimmune diseases, genetic diseases, chronic diseases. They're nearing 10 generations of inbreeding, mostly through parents and siblings. After 13 generations they won't exist anymore.

Besides that, Glenn Beck is one of the biggest pro-big government, pro-pissrael, pro-disinformation shills around. He loves those kike shekels almost as much as that half-kike Aleksandr Yonez, AKA: 'Alex Jones', does. Want to guess who their best friend's real name is? Ben Shopiro, whom has 5 cleverly disguised and hidden specific genetic diseases that most yids.

There's more hook noses in the hyper-religious communities than most expect.

>>7187
>inbred Amish
>Know what else they have? Shitloads of autism, autoimmune diseases, genetic diseases, chronic diseases.
Facts demonstrate it is everything the opposite case.
>Glenn Beck is one of the biggest pro-big government
Glenn who? What does he has to do with this thread?

>>7188
>Facts demonstrate
What facts?

>>7187
>After 13 generations they won't exist anymore.
How?

>>7186
The rates of these conditions increased largely because as medicine advanced, people were more likely to be diagnosed with these conditions, instead of simply being labeled as "feebleminded", "madmen" or "frail" and surrendering to being sick and miserable for their entire lives as they used to because they didn't know what they were.
Diabetes increased due to Americans eating way too much sugar, as well as becoming obese.

A reminder that the gatekeeping science (((elites))) who think they know everything want to deny you cheap safe and effective Chad bone aesthetics.

>>7188
Either you are ignorant, or desperately deflecting. <10% of judeo-amish and numerous related groups, the "anabaptists", are allowed the use of MoDeRn MeDiCiNe. That makes the following all that more hilarious:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3077314/
89 'founding members' for a single community of 40,000? WOW, that's a lotta inbreeding! 10 generations worth. The irony.
https://www.chp.edu/research/areas/genetics/projects/vockley/amish
Low population size + vast amounts of inbreeding = astoundingly high percentages of genetic diseases.
https://www.etown.edu/centers/young-center/files/hmorton-references/Pediatric%20Medicine%20and%20Genetics%202003.pdf
And again...
https://www.biochemgenetics.ca/plainpeople/view.php
WAIT A MINUTE, you didn't know they had such similarities to the average inbred yid? Of course not.
https://www.waisman.wisc.edu/2019/10/18/21st-century-medicine-helps-amish-deal-with-rare-inherited-illnesses/
Noticing the pattern now? Whole lot of too close relations going on for a single family to have 6 out of 11 with a specific genetic disease.

>>7191
It's an old, well recognized rule: when a genetic bottleneck occurs, if it is not broken within 13 generations then that group dies out entirely. Infertility and sterility increase by anywhere from 5-8% per generation, which also increases at the same rate of 'new' genetic diseases. Look up the Hapsburgs, they died out after exactly 13 generations, though the few outer-families that remain today are chronically ill.

Most every 'royal family' around the world suffers the same cycle of inbreeding and wipeout.

>>7188
Well? What have you found, hrm? Anything? Something? Nothing?

>>7188
Wait, forgot something:
https://www.biochemgenetics.ca/plainpeople/singleview.php?id=2426
OH GEE, WANNA TAKE A GUESS WHERE (((THAT NAME))) GENETIC DISEASE COMES FROM? HERE'S A HINT: IN-OUT BREEDING WITH KIKES.
lol
lulz
rotflmao even

>>7188
I can tell you've never been to a small town in Pennsyltucky, stopped at an Amish farmer's market, and seen half the family come shambling out to lick your car's mirrors and windows. Many such cases.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/genetic-disorders-hit-amish-hard/
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2020/01/15/genetic-mutation-blamed-for-mysterious-heart-condition-killing-young-members-of-amish-community/
https://blog.adafruit.com/2018/12/03/biohacking-the-amish-the-dna-sequencer-and-the-hitching-post/
https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Disease-hits-Amish-community-5594625.php
https://owlcation.com/stem/Some-Inherited-Physical-Conditions-and-Illnesses-of-the-Amish
https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/amish-lethal-microcephaly/

>>7260
A horror show.
Reeeeeeeee

Most modern drugs are made from oil.

>>7318
This is true. Petroleum is useful for a lot of things. Synthesizing organic drugs from Petro chemicals has enabled people to produce them in far better quantities and purity than, say, grinding up willow tree bark into a paste.

>>7530
This isn't really true at all, although it would be cool if it were. There are limits to the drugs we can find in nature, and a lot of the compounds produced in plants are still just treatments, not cures. Cures are hard to find.
Herbalism is lit though. It's nice that we as humans can live in a world with so many plants with medicinal properties, as well as being able to consume a lot of plants that would poison most other mammals.

>>7531
Let us take a look to the Control Group. Remarkable outcome indeed.
https://www.amishbaskets.com/blogs/blog/amish-healthcare