I haven't visited here in a long time. If you know who I am, then no need to bother with a recap on my life story. If not, it doesn't matter either way.
I'm sending in my two weeks' notice at my job. Too little training for my current position, too heavy a workload, nowhere near enough pay, only barely enough hours to make my living. I am getting a phone set up in the morning, and when it's all ready I'll be sending my applications to anywhere that'll take me.
Let's talk career paths, jobs, and finances. I don't believe /ub/'s ever talked at length about this topic, and perhaps my own situation could be made into a case study to help others in my shoes.
I do not wish to spend money on college or university, although I may go for a trade school education if need be. I have only a year's experience in grocery work, and very little saved up. I have a housing situation that I cannot escape until next July, with a somewhat steep rent. Preferred jobs would be productive labor - but in the literal sense of making something tangible. Things like construction, HVAC, plumbing, carpentry, smithing, welding. Area is mostly urban, no agricultural work near where I live. How would I go about getting most of these jobs?
File unrelated. Although related to my mood.
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OP again. Does anyone have advice regarding job applications without a phone? As things are, I don't think this phone's going to work and I may have to get another one, but I'm not waiting any longer to send my notice.
>>1635
Here's what you do. Find a good industry job (lumber, steel, plumbing, carpentry, all that shit) and show up in presentable work clothes. Also, pick up a safety vest.
Show up at 8:00 in the morning (or when work starts) with a lunchbox and a newspaper. Talk to whoever you can, be it entry level or management.
You're trying to illustrate your willingness to work, and your reliability. After about 4 hours of reading the paper and maybe snacking on your lunch, leave and go about your day.
Repeat every day until they give you the job.
On average, a person who does this will have a job by day 5 (it can take longer of course). I've seen several people (myself included) employ this strategy effectively, because you become the person who the boss(es) will say "Well shit, give him something to do, see how he does."
Here's what you do. Find a good industry job (lumber, steel, plumbing, carpentry, all that shit) and show up in presentable work clothes. Also, pick up a safety vest.
Show up at 8:00 in the morning (or when work starts) with a lunchbox and a newspaper. Talk to whoever you can, be it entry level or management.
You're trying to illustrate your willingness to work, and your reliability. After about 4 hours of reading the paper and maybe snacking on your lunch, leave and go about your day.
Repeat every day until they give you the job.
On average, a person who does this will have a job by day 5 (it can take longer of course). I've seen several people (myself included) employ this strategy effectively, because you become the person who the boss(es) will say "Well shit, give him something to do, see how he does."
>>1636
I was asking family about this, and they all said something to this effect. Hivemind much? Ha.
I'll do this. I only have running shoes, jeans and basic tees or polos in terms of work-clothes for that field of work, but over the week I could buy some gear like that. Plus I can walk to a few places like that from where I live and where I work. There is also a pizza place with a help wanted sign, and since I have to get a food handling license this week anyway for legal reasons, I could do that should the construction idea fall through. Plus given my experience a night shift at WinCo could work too since those guys always have people coming in and out on a seasonal basis. And a night shift at a dead end place like grocery would be great too since it means I can go for a trade like carpentry or car repair in the day, like I wanted to do for a little while.
I was asking family about this, and they all said something to this effect. Hivemind much? Ha.
I'll do this. I only have running shoes, jeans and basic tees or polos in terms of work-clothes for that field of work, but over the week I could buy some gear like that. Plus I can walk to a few places like that from where I live and where I work. There is also a pizza place with a help wanted sign, and since I have to get a food handling license this week anyway for legal reasons, I could do that should the construction idea fall through. Plus given my experience a night shift at WinCo could work too since those guys always have people coming in and out on a seasonal basis. And a night shift at a dead end place like grocery would be great too since it means I can go for a trade like carpentry or car repair in the day, like I wanted to do for a little while.
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>>1634
Hey man, if your having trouble with job applications, your best bet is the local library. Some towns have an office of the local job center, usually doubles as the unemployment office (since unemployed people are usually looking for work).
The pizza place is probably a sure thing to get started, they usually have no end of people willing to drive and be lazy and cant keep people willing to be in the kitchen.
I work in the oilfields out west as a truck driver, and frankly once youve gotten on your feet a little I can not reccomend enough trying to get into that area of life and industry. If you are anywhere near North Dakota, Wyoming, Colorado, West Texas, or Western Pennsylvania/East Ohio, you can try to get on with one of the big boys as a greenhorn/greenhat. Lots of the service side jobs and drilling rigs will take people with zero experience and train them up. Names you want to keep an eye out for are guys like Halliburton, Schlumberger, Baker Hughes, Keane Frac, Weatherford, Nabors Drilling, Patterson Drilling, HP Drilling, etc.
These guys usually work a 2 week on, 1 week off rotation or some such, and they will have you either crashing in company housing, a man camp (think full service dorms) or on site skid shacks for the drilling rigs (which are just heavy duty singlewide trailers). With people who quit, extra work loads, call outs, etc many of those companies wont make you go home on your time off if you dont want to. All you gotta do be is be willing and able to piss clean on a drug test for some of the entry level positions. Any mechanical aptitude you can display is helpful but for the bottom rung stuff a willingess to work and be sober, and work in buttfuck fucking nowhere in all conditions, is all you need to get in. Most of these companies will even help you get a CDL so you can help with moving the trucks and equipment from site to site, which comes in handy down the road. Parley that into oilfield trucking or crane operating later, maybe get your Hazmat, etc etc.
Hey man, if your having trouble with job applications, your best bet is the local library. Some towns have an office of the local job center, usually doubles as the unemployment office (since unemployed people are usually looking for work).
The pizza place is probably a sure thing to get started, they usually have no end of people willing to drive and be lazy and cant keep people willing to be in the kitchen.
I work in the oilfields out west as a truck driver, and frankly once youve gotten on your feet a little I can not reccomend enough trying to get into that area of life and industry. If you are anywhere near North Dakota, Wyoming, Colorado, West Texas, or Western Pennsylvania/East Ohio, you can try to get on with one of the big boys as a greenhorn/greenhat. Lots of the service side jobs and drilling rigs will take people with zero experience and train them up. Names you want to keep an eye out for are guys like Halliburton, Schlumberger, Baker Hughes, Keane Frac, Weatherford, Nabors Drilling, Patterson Drilling, HP Drilling, etc.
These guys usually work a 2 week on, 1 week off rotation or some such, and they will have you either crashing in company housing, a man camp (think full service dorms) or on site skid shacks for the drilling rigs (which are just heavy duty singlewide trailers). With people who quit, extra work loads, call outs, etc many of those companies wont make you go home on your time off if you dont want to. All you gotta do be is be willing and able to piss clean on a drug test for some of the entry level positions. Any mechanical aptitude you can display is helpful but for the bottom rung stuff a willingess to work and be sober, and work in buttfuck fucking nowhere in all conditions, is all you need to get in. Most of these companies will even help you get a CDL so you can help with moving the trucks and equipment from site to site, which comes in handy down the road. Parley that into oilfield trucking or crane operating later, maybe get your Hazmat, etc etc.
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>>1643
I still remember when I was job hunting before my journey toward my current position at Stater Bros, there was a job center in Oceanside I went to. Don't recall the town libraries, west nor east, having a job center built into it. That being said, I do like the idea of a trucking job. Don't you need your own truck to test for a license for that kind of delivery job though? I've heard trucking is a good job for diaperfags like me, but never did much research into it. But I know Hollandia Dairy has openings for drivers right now.
Generally, this part of San Marcos is a great job sphere for learning or getting my foot in the door with a trade-centric job. I've had a chat with the lead cook at the pizza place about quitting at the Stater Bros. bakery, but still needing to get my food handling permit. He seems supportive of that, so that sounds great for a starter.
First day off since I got promoted to this position I'm quitting from. Gonna do all sorts of preparation in the meantime, do some penny counting to see if I can pay my rent without taking out a loan or a few bucks shaved from the last of my educational IRA...that's gonna be the hard part of working at just about any place. Unless my severance at my current workplace is hefty enough to compensate.
....I'm overthinking and over-stressing on this, aren't I. Pic related, kill me.
I still remember when I was job hunting before my journey toward my current position at Stater Bros, there was a job center in Oceanside I went to. Don't recall the town libraries, west nor east, having a job center built into it. That being said, I do like the idea of a trucking job. Don't you need your own truck to test for a license for that kind of delivery job though? I've heard trucking is a good job for diaperfags like me, but never did much research into it. But I know Hollandia Dairy has openings for drivers right now.
Generally, this part of San Marcos is a great job sphere for learning or getting my foot in the door with a trade-centric job. I've had a chat with the lead cook at the pizza place about quitting at the Stater Bros. bakery, but still needing to get my food handling permit. He seems supportive of that, so that sounds great for a starter.
First day off since I got promoted to this position I'm quitting from. Gonna do all sorts of preparation in the meantime, do some penny counting to see if I can pay my rent without taking out a loan or a few bucks shaved from the last of my educational IRA...that's gonna be the hard part of working at just about any place. Unless my severance at my current workplace is hefty enough to compensate.
....I'm overthinking and over-stressing on this, aren't I. Pic related, kill me.
>>1635
Damn dude, the best time to search for jobs is when you have a job. When you don't have a job, employers want to know what's wrong with you.
Damn dude, the best time to search for jobs is when you have a job. When you don't have a job, employers want to know what's wrong with you.
>>1634
>Too little training for my current position
Oh, and you never get training, most jobs you just learn as you go. That's just the way it is.
>Too little training for my current position
Oh, and you never get training, most jobs you just learn as you go. That's just the way it is.
>>1644
Hey man keep your chin up. As far as testing for those driving jobs, in the oil fields they usually have a trainer's truck equivalent to what you normally drive for that line of work that you will go testing with. So you will go take the test in the company truck the driving portion of the test is proctored at the DMV. Alternatively they might choose to send you to a local community college for CDL training. That's what my outfit did after I got past my probationary period, back in the day.
If you wanted to skip the oil fields and go straight to driving they have CDL training courses at many community colleges usually cost about five grand and take 6-8 weeks, but the oil field specific schools can be as short as three weeks. There is a good handful of over-the-road trucking companies that will pay you to go to school as long as you commit to driving for them for a year. The pay for those guys can suck but it's better than what you're going to get at the pizza place. Swift, Warner, CR England, Knight transport etc have those kinds of programs. In those cases you will be testing in the schools truck when testing time comes.
Any which way you go when you take your knowledge and written test when you apply for your CDL learner's permit try to study up and get the extra testing for your tanker. Hazmat has to come later after you have the CDL, because the hazmat requires a thorough background check and fingerprints which requires an existing CDL. But the tanker is your starting point whether you're hauling milk water cement powder anything that goes into a tank pressurized or dry.
Hey man keep your chin up. As far as testing for those driving jobs, in the oil fields they usually have a trainer's truck equivalent to what you normally drive for that line of work that you will go testing with. So you will go take the test in the company truck the driving portion of the test is proctored at the DMV. Alternatively they might choose to send you to a local community college for CDL training. That's what my outfit did after I got past my probationary period, back in the day.
If you wanted to skip the oil fields and go straight to driving they have CDL training courses at many community colleges usually cost about five grand and take 6-8 weeks, but the oil field specific schools can be as short as three weeks. There is a good handful of over-the-road trucking companies that will pay you to go to school as long as you commit to driving for them for a year. The pay for those guys can suck but it's better than what you're going to get at the pizza place. Swift, Warner, CR England, Knight transport etc have those kinds of programs. In those cases you will be testing in the schools truck when testing time comes.
Any which way you go when you take your knowledge and written test when you apply for your CDL learner's permit try to study up and get the extra testing for your tanker. Hazmat has to come later after you have the CDL, because the hazmat requires a thorough background check and fingerprints which requires an existing CDL. But the tanker is your starting point whether you're hauling milk water cement powder anything that goes into a tank pressurized or dry.
>>1646
That's the problem for me. It doesn't matter what I say, or what I do. If I don't have prior experience, they won't hire me. They probably don't even check my goddamn resume if I don't write down prior experience, no matter how simple the job is.
I found a place in the local Reader that was advertising for construction work. Only stated requirement was a valid driver's license and English speaking ability. I got turned away because they said I needed training. But the advertisement said that they were willing and able to train.
That's the problem for me. It doesn't matter what I say, or what I do. If I don't have prior experience, they won't hire me. They probably don't even check my goddamn resume if I don't write down prior experience, no matter how simple the job is.
I found a place in the local Reader that was advertising for construction work. Only stated requirement was a valid driver's license and English speaking ability. I got turned away because they said I needed training. But the advertisement said that they were willing and able to train.
Hey guess what everybody, nothing's changed. Isn't California just a fucking paradise of opportunity and happiness? Isn't it wonderful getting the shaft because you don't fulfill a diversity quota or have ten years of experience shoveling shit? Golly I just love this state and everything it stands for!
I'm done. Drifting seems to be my destiny. See you fags whenever I return from purgatory.
I'm done. Drifting seems to be my destiny. See you fags whenever I return from purgatory.
>>1891
you could volunteer as a firefighter, they need plenty of those. Or maybe firewatch, always sounded like a cozy job
you could volunteer as a firefighter, they need plenty of those. Or maybe firewatch, always sounded like a cozy job
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>More than four years of spiraling and I'm back to this
What the fuck have I done with my life posting here.
What the fuck have I done with my life posting here.