/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>374647
>>374651
Every time. Even when they would benefit, they still can't help but desire total chaos and death.

>>374653
Their urge to maximize goyim death supercedes even basic survival instincts. If they knew what was good for them, they would have stopped the "subverting, undermining and maligning their host nations" thing 4000 years ago.

>>374654
Barely matters. Trump is merely another golem from the Malta lineage. Easily replaced by the other 80,000 groomed candidates.

>>374655
>Easily replaced
Not really.

Trump's betting odds hit 66.6%

>>374658
I like how the assassination attempt has increased Biden’s odds of becoming president entirely because it’s reduced the chances of him being replaced.

>>374657
Simply and easily. He's a premade opposition brand placed squarely in mass media to produce conflicts of interest.

>>374666
Who would they replace Donald Trump with?
His base is not transferable.

>>374668
Nice

interesting

All of the Liberal Late Night Comedy shows are going to implode tomorrow.

>>374673
they needed to pause for the zog reprogramming due to the... miss.

Let me preface this by saying that I don't wish death on anyone nor do I dislike Trump. He's definitely the best candidates of them. However, I'd like to agree with someone's post ITT that I can't find currently, that the left crying about, "and you miisssss!" shows their misunderstanding of the situation and bloodlust.

>>374668
While this image is rad, I can't see that I look forward to four more years of Trump presidency. Did he do anything of significance. Sure, he probably improved the country economically with some etc. but ultimately what matters is that white people survive. With this understanding that, the nation comes before economy, can he be viewed as an "our guy"?

What I want to say is that, if I take everything at face value and rule out any potential false-flag and so on, which possibility is always on my mind, I feel like it's the left are the ones who are lucky not us.

Imagine a timeline, were Trump dies and the republicans lose the election to Biden, honestly, I don't even know if that is what would happened if Trump died. But let's stick with that.

For so long have the Sweden Democrats have parasite the white nationalistic movement while being defensive and complacent. They are quick to remove "extreme" elements in the party and their rhetoric is dull. They only get their votes because people are really sick of immigrants and they are the only alternative they know.

Trump is obviously leagues ahead of these guys in charisma. However, when it comes to SD, I know that if they didn't exist, their voters' feelings wouldn't leave with them, they would seek out any other alternative, perhaps a better one, in whatever way that would be.

However, this is just my take. I don't follow american politics as much as you guys do obviously so there could be some flaws with my logic.

>>374675
>probably improved the country economically with some
putting it lightly. trump rolled back subsidizing chinese shipping costs that was in place 100 years ago until trumps first office. there were some other things that were dropped from WW1/2 that I forget what exactly these days.
overall there was significant restructuring done to improve USA focused business health for literally anyone, rather than "tax breaks" that normally just made things worse

>>374593
headlines related to pic4

>>374678
Wtf is even the point of these misleading, immediately-seen-as-bullshit headlines? What is the point of delaying public information for only a couple hours?

>>374675
>Did he do anything of significance.
Yes. He reduced immigration into the United States.

If you look at the number of illegal immigrants entering into the United States, and at the number of legal immigrants entering into the United States, you'll see that the Trump administration is better than the second term Obama administration and especially compared to the Biden Administration. Legal Immigration fell by 10-20% from Trump's inauguration until 2019, and then COVID forced it to fall significantly more than that. This may not sound massive, but the President of the US can't re-write the already existing laws, only change how they are enforced. A guy I went to college with works as a paralegal at an immigration law firm. I remember him posting on Facebook during the Trump administration that US CIS was giving all sorts of bullshit reasons for delaying or denying Immigrant Visas.

I personally had internships in Immigration enforcement in both the last year of the Obama Administration and the first year of the Trump Administration. Under the Obama Administration, there was this thing called "Prosecutorial Discretion" wherein immigrants who had been caught by ICE and even had orders of deportation by judges, could apply to ask to just not be deported. This was a special pain in the ass in 2016, when 2 out of five cases I had written actual legal briefs on for immigrants who had already been ordered deported and their cases appealed through one level the government just decided "nah, let's not deport them." But in 2017, prosecutorial discretion was just not a thing anymore. If an illegal alien was caught, we tried to deport them.

And illegal immigration to the US, while not necessarily lower under Trump than Obama, is at least twice as high now as it was under Trump. And Trump had programs like stay-in-mexico, and he took full advantage of health-regulation powers to vastly reduce immigration during COVID.

People who say that Trump did nothing don't know what the fuck they are talking about. Check the statistics yourselves. They are not easy to read though.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/07/21/trump-cuts-legal-immigrants-by-half-and-hes-not-done-yet/

https://usafacts.org/articles/where-do-us-immigrants-come-from/?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ND-Economy&msclkid=dcd0d3397e1f100c7d55b5ad1332c908&utm_term=statistics%20on%20immigration%20in%20the%20us&utm_content=Immigration%20Stats

>>374682
>And illegal immigration to the US, while not necessarily lower under Trump than Obama, is at least twice as high now as it was under Trump
This cannot be understated. While some might argue Trump didn't fix the problem, he certainly prevented the problem from getting exponentially worse during his term.

All the years of bitches throwing curses at Trump and Trump supporters finally rebounded. Oh, is it cathartic, though also pitiful. If only these fags had a heathier mindset, they wouldn't be in this total psychotic mental break.

>>374682
> the number of legal immigrants [was] ... better than the *second* term Obama administration and especially compared to the Biden Administration
>>374683
>he certainly prevented the problem from getting exponentially worse
Truly a difficult feat. Being less bad than the walking zombie. Everything is saved. Yay.

The only way he *might* be decent is if all this bullshit radicalizes him. But I'd put relatively long odds on that. Best bet for actual solutions is still making sure you and yours are prepared, and clearing out corruption at the local level and working your way up from there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3N6CV2owsY
angle showing where people got shot, it looks like after he missed first shot, he panic shot couple more before getting hit by counter snipers

>>374679
To insult and humiliate its intended audience. "Us"

>>374687
that or trying to downplay exact case of failed attempt if this was orchestrated event

>>374693
Fakken noice.

>>374609
So there is possibility that actblue donation in question may not have been made by suspect, but another guy with same name. Also his childhood friends / people who know him have told to news that he was very non-liberal. But as there is possibility of him being jewish, it could be psychosis/paranoia case as that is their speciality.

>>374693
nice

>>374693
Awesome

>>374693
Rainbow Dash isn't in this pic because she's the one who shot Trixie offscreen.

New bootleg-tweet from Trump

Abe-sama's kamikaze saved Donald Trump
https://fixupx.com/mrjeffu/status/1812772250145452302
This is the craziest near-miss attempted president assassination at a rally since Teddy Roosevelt was nearly shot in the heart but was saved by his pocket Constitution.

RIP John

Answer: All the girls in the Secret Service unit had to go to the bathroom at the same time, to fix their makeup and talk about boys.

Another shitpost from Trump

>>374712
>adding in their own "milady" NFT
>or worse, adding one owned by some twitfoid they're simping for
Gross! You need to post a better Donald to atone for your sin!

>>374719
I don't know what you're talking about. None of this is an NFT, and nobody is simping (except maybe for Trump).

It's Joever

>>374725
Chode Bidet BTFO'd

Forgive the blatant BS all over the video, I'm not sure where to find it without all the crap. It was deleted right after I found it.

>>374727
It was so open and blatant, some of the normies thought he was supposed to be there.
What a disgraceful lapse in security.

>>374678
Was wondering when someone was gonna mention the "loud noises" media schtick

PRINCESS TWILIGHT GET DOWN!

Meme magic, from /wsg/

>>374695
schizo theory has found new possible angle. https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1812971491417551282

>>374782
some more stuff in that vein:
His school got school shooting threat in 2019 https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/xavier-cisneros-arrested-bethel-park-school-threat/ and this guy also was running some alt-chan back then and new one after getting out of prison ( https://archived.moe/bant/thread/10411186/#10411370 ). It's unknown if he was affiliated with suspect in any way or if this gave suspect any ideas. But a sidenote that that area definitely contains some mental retardation. Pic 1&2 from that bant thread demonstrating xaviers faggotry.

>>374788
>>374789
These are so good, lmfao.
You wonder what the maymay's would have been like if imageboards existed when JFK got shot

>>374791
>You wonder what the maymay's would have been like if imageboards existed when JFK got shot
JFK actually died, so there would have been a lot fewer lighthearted jokes about it. He also didn't live to make such a cool pose, so the meme-edits wouldn't have been as fun.
There definitely would have been a meme-explosion though. Lots of conspiracy posts and crazy memes. Lots of memes about the magic bullet in particular.

>>374788
Be the American that the Japanese think you are.

>>374624
hah

Libs have been seething over how photogenic Trump is

>>374627
some random new background stuff, blackrock is involved in ownership chain of company whose roof was used by suspect.

DJT was shorted days before the assassination.
https://fixupx.com/DiedSuddenly_/status/1813478521676738756

>>374820
this also happened, he is total complete retard with nothing productive in his brain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt_CipOPPs0

>>374830
Destiny is such a massive faggot, it's unreal.

So, is there no effort to hold the MSM media accountable for this? I don't expect it to change things at all. But it could ruin the life of some journos. About time they get a taste of their own medicine.

>>374837
>So, is there no effort to hold the MSM media accountable for this?
Several journalists and influencers have gotten cancelled over their grotesque responses to the shooting. Others are keeping their heads down and calling to "tone down the rhetoric" to avoid being blamed for the atmosphere that lead to this.
https://fixvx.com/ShitpostGate/status/1813332860037923094

Anon on /pol/ has an interesting take
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/474553754

>>374839
new bread
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/474598762

>>374840
Imagine thinking that's alot of words

>>374839
This post is so mind numbingly stupid that I have to seriously wonder if it was written by opposition to distract 4chan anons with stupid conspiracy theories

>1. the 20 year old ROTC reject managed to execute a sophisticated attack
This inbred chucklefuck took his dad's basic AR with a low-zoom scope, climbed on top of a roof, was noticed by law enforcement, spectators, and was even videotaped and posted to Tic-Tok doing it, and then took several shots at a target at a range of just 125 yards and missed every shot. If this attack is sophisticated, what the hell is an unsophisticated attack? What more would this guy have to fuck up to be considered unskilled and unsophisticated?

>He appeared in a Blackrock Ad
Yes, because this kind of imbred subhuman is produced from the same upper middle-class background that BlackRock targets as their client base.

Do you seriously think that BlackRock, if they had anything to do with this, couldn't find some suicidal expert shot ex-marine who wanted to do it? Or literally anyone who didn't require corrective lenses? Or who knows how to adjust for wind when lining up a shot? Or who has any kind of stealth skills at all?

Seriously, if Black Rock had recruited this guy, they wouldn't have that video with him in it up on youtube. It's not that hard to find. They found it and removed it within a day of the shooting. If Black Rock had done this, they would have found a random veteran who knows how to use a gun and had no public association with them.

>The shooter's actions the day of the shooting were meticulously planned, parking strategically a mile away to avoid detection
This is so stupid I feel like I am being gaslit.

Has this guy ever been to a Trump rally? You have to park damn near a mile away just to get a parking space. And this guy's vehicle was found only a couple hours after the shooting. He didn't hide it well. He had explosives in his car that were never used. Why have them at all if this is a well planned shooting? If this guy had actually planned this well he would have had a hiding spot to shoot from, or he would have been disguised as a construction worker. He could have had someone drop him off, or walked the whole way, instead of leaving a car to find. He could have disguised the rifle case as filming equipment or construction tools. What would a poorly planned shooting have looked like?

>His knowledge of the security layout and ability to exploit blind spots indicate insider information
Okay, we are definitely being gaslit. This chucklefuck was noticed by police, who tried to send someone onto the roof. He was noticed by spectators, who posted videos of him on the roof on Tic-Tok. And he was noticed by Secret Service, who were training snipers on him.

>The failure to establish and monitor designated security sectors
The Secret Service detail assigned to President Trump is the limited security given to a former president, which is less than for a sitting president. Much of the team was split off to go guard Jill Biden, who was also in Pennsylvania. They were overworked, and their leader is a diversity hire who is as good at security as Crooks was at shooting.

>Lack of effective communication and immediate action by law enforcement
Is this guy going to claim that the Afghanistan withdraw and the Uvalde police services are Black Rock conspiracies as well? This guy is literally saying that the Secret Service were only pretending to look retarded.

>The USSS Director's assertions that ARG International was outside the secure permineter... is bullshit
Secret Service agents and directors collect a paycheck for an easy as fuck job that's basically never tested. It wasn't until this last weekend that they were put to the test, and they failed. So now, they are making shit up to try to look less incompetent and keep their cushy jobs.

>These statements suggest an attempt to justify security lapses
For once, the poster is correct

>The shorting of $DJT stocks suggests foreknowledge
>The scale of these financial maneuvers suggests deep knowledge
This statement is so easily proven to be demonstrably bullshit that I again wonder if he is trolling us.

DJT stocks went up after the assassination attempt. You lose money by shorting a stock that goes up in value. You go long on a stock that you expect to rise in value, you short a stock that you expect to go down. Since the attempt, DJT has gone up. How was it ever going to go down? If Donald Trump had been killed, he would have been a martyr, and his recent conviction and indiscretions forgotten. the Trump name would have been mythologized the same way the "Kennedy" name is even still today. Donald Trump Media would have benefited with the name, without any of the negatives of being associated with Trump. The fact that people shorted DJT proves that they didn't know it was coming. Maybe this poster is just as good at Finance as the Secret Service is at security or Matthew Crooks is at shooting.

>BlackRock... conflicts of interest
No shit. BlackRock having diverse investments is literally their jobs as financial investors. You invest in multiple markets to minimize the risk if any one market tanks.

>>374839
No.
This is too unhinged.
I'll believe in lizard people, pedo rings, or even democracy. They're a bit weird but at least they seem like conclusions a pony could come to after reviewing the facts.

I can't accept that somepony unfolded a plot to boop Trump through the skull for the sole purpose of making a few bits on the stock market.

>I can't accept that somepony unfolded a plot to boop Trump through the skull for the sole purpose of making a few bits on the stock market.
I don't think that's the point. To make a few dollars on stonks would create too much of a blatantly suspicious paper trail to encourage someone to coordinate capitol murder for the money alone. Now if some lowly investor just happened to catch wind of any kind of anti-Trump plot, naturally he'd casually short and sell "randomly" while his holdings were still high to secure some return before his holdings plummeted. The sudden selling off of Trump assets is if anything indicative that their was an internal understanding that something at that demonstration or even at the RNC would happen that would be catastrophic for Trump's trade value.

Did they know that some Rick And Morty fan would go plinking dangerously close to Donald's head? Probably not. Did they know that some anti-Trump party would do something just before the RNC to tarnish his image? Likely, because that's what has been happening since forever.

>>374838
Don't think I've seen journos being gutted over this. Only influencers and what not.
>>374839
It was a pretty shit attempt. It's true the secret service didn't do well either, but it isn't hard to believe it's just incompetence. If anything, making a martyr out of Trump has been terrible for his opposition.

Also, they're saying the shooter had explosives on his car and a detonator on him. Got no idea how he planned to stay alive long enough to do whatever with those explosives.
>>374855
Basically this.

>>374855
Good post, I agree with all of it.

>>374864
>Got no idea how he planned to stay alive long enough to do whatever with those explosives.
It might've been his backup plan to blow up a bunch of Trump supporters if he didn't have access to a line of fire with Trump.

>>374855
I keep telling people you can either assume everyone in the government is incompetent and that's why this happened, or you can assume that ZOG is full of hypercompetent gigabrains that happened to hire a mouth breathing retard to do an extremely important op

>>374876
It's a classic, every control conspiracy requires its followers to blackwhite, to simultaneously believe that the enemy is great and that is why it succeeded despite resistance, and that it is weak and can be easily crushed as otherwise they'll be unwilling to fight.

>>374826
found some more information on this

>>374855
>DJT stocks went up after the assassination attempt. You lose money by shorting a stock that goes up in value. You go long on a stock that you expect to rise in value, you short a stock that you expect to go down.
Are you trolling? Where would the stock have gone if that 'one' bullet was a mm or two to the left?
Theres plenty of possibilities that apparently (you) arent willing to entertain, including:
- Blackrock hired the kid expecting/knowing he'd fail
- Blackrock hired the kid and he still fucked it up
- SS is blatantly incompetent
- SS has become victim of weaponized incompetence
- SS is maliciously incompetent

... and many more!
I know, the world is scary when you entertain ideas outside your own beliefs and preconceptions

>>374897
>where would the stock have gone if he hadn’t missed?
Even higher. When people die, people tend to be more sympathetic towards them. When they are blatantly martyred, as Trump would have been, even more so.

>BlackRock hired him expecting he would fail
No, they wouldn’t have, because trying always carries the risk of success. While Matthew Crooks missed in multiple shots, 125 yards is still very close. He almost hit, and in fact very likely would have if Trump hadn’t turned his head.

>SS hired the kid and he fucked it up.
They would have hired someone who can shoot

>SS is blatantly incompetent
Correct.

>SS has become the victim of weaponized incompetence
Possible, though I think it’s more likely that it’s just regular incompetence

>SS is maliciously incompetent
Possible

>the world is scary when you entertain ideas outside your own beliefs and preconceptions
K. But if you believe that Blsckrock is this hyper competent organization that paid a 20 year old inbred who doesn’t know how to hide or shoot a gun to kill a former president, all so they can lose money on their short of Donald Trump’s company, then you’re believing what you want to believe, and not what facts and logic would suggest

>>374898
>Even higher. When people die, people tend to be more sympathetic towards them. When they are blatantly martyred, as Trump would have been, even more so.
No, no, no. The only reason Truth Social has any value is because Donald Trump uses it. The only reason anybody uses Truth Social instead of Twitter is because Donald Trump uses it. The only reason DJT has any projected value is because people anticipate that Donald Trump will use it for the entirety of his presidency and announce all of his policies through it like he did on Twitter throughout his first term.
If Trump were gone, Truth Social would be worthless and nobody would buy it. Everyone would sell because they would know that the app would have no further potential to expand and would implode as the person people went there to see stopped using it.
>They would have hired someone who can shoot
He was able to shoot. Had Trump not turned his head in the split second that the trigger were pulled, it would have been a perfect headshot.

>>374898
>Even higher. When people die, people tend to be more sympathetic towards them. When they are blatantly martyred, as Trump would have been, even more so.
I need to talk to your dealer, cuz hes got the good shit

The dude bled yo. I dont see how you can claim incompetence when by all metrics it should have succeeded.
The DC on that evasion diceroll was a nat 20. Yes, Trump landed it, but let's not pretend that cracking jokes about the failed shooter was the probable outcome OR that because he landed it that its impossible that this wasn't a more complicated instance

Never attribute to malice, that which can be explained by stupidity
- Hanlon's Razor
Never dismiss as stupidity, that which can be substantiated as malice
- Adeline's Retort

>>374902
>The DC on that evasion diceroll was a nat 20.
Trump really rocked that Uncanny Dodge. This is what Legendary Unarmored AC looks like.

>>374903
>Trump really rocked that Uncanny Dodge
Right??

>>374904
I can't help but sympathize with people who called it an act of God. He literally, unironically dodged a bullet in real time.

>>374905
Yeah, don't you worry, the book of revelationists are gonna have a field day about that whole "struck a felling blow but survived" part

>>374906
Yeah, I saw that

>>374909
Fukking jews couldn't help themselves with red cows, and now this is where we're at,....

>>374913
Careful with that pastebin, apparently anon thinks thats alot of words

>>374914
Functionally-illiterate people should not be allowed to use computers.

>>374900
>>374902
The question you really have to ask yourself is, does this look more like someone who is in a position of power with much foresight and planning put him up to it, or does this look more like the school shooter decided to try his hand at political assassinations?

>It would have been the perfect headshot but for luck
>losing wasn't the probable outcome
But luck works the other way, too.

Matthew Crooks was damned lucky to get as far as he got, and there were several instances were a very marginally more competent shooter (like a PTSD afflicted suicidal veteran our country has thousands of) would have done better

First and most importantly, Crooks had no stealth at all. He was noticed by spectators, who even filmed him. He was noticed by law enforcement. There was even a Secret Service sniper trained on his position, who shot him a couple seconds after he shot at Trump. The only reason Crooks got as far as he did, I am sure, is because the Secret Service really did not want to kill a kid, and wanted to resolve the issue without shooting him. If that sniper had not hesitated, and shot Crooks as soon as the threat was beyond obvious, he would not have made off that first shot. A law enforcement officer is said to have even gone up, and then retreated when Crooks pointed his rifle at him. Crooks got lucky they did not take the situation more seriously. A more competent shooter probably would have used a longer range rifle and good have shot from further away. Or perhaps they would have been hidden. Or perhaps they would have had a plausible cover story as to why they were on the roof, like being a construction worker. Anything other than gambling on the secret service doing nothing.

The question really is, do you think that if BlackRock had put a shooter up, they would have bet on him just being allowed to sit on a roof with a rifle? No. They would not have. But if this were just a school shooter trying to be Brutus, would they do this? Yes. Yes they would.

The second thing to keep in mind is that Crooks didn't take one shot. He took about four shots. And after the first shot, which missed, he didn't come close. The type of gun and caliber that Crooks was using, the 5.56 and the AR15, is basically designed to allow for accuracy in rapid fire. Making accurate follow up shots on the AR15 is not that hard. And he failed at it. Had he been actually trained to use a 5.56 caliber rifle - like literally any veteran would have been - he likely would have been at least closer to hitting Trump on the follow up shots. Remember that Lee Harvey Oswald made the headshot on the third shot, not the first.

Ask yourself, if this was a shooter hired by an analyst company, would they be poor at double tapping and follow up shots? Maybe, but there's no reason to think that they would. And if it were just a school shooter, would they suck at follow up shots. Well... yeah, probably.

And as for the shot that missed, yes, if Trump hadn't moved his head, he probably would have been hit in the skull by the bullet, and he maybe would have died from it. However, the shot was not well positioned in the center of his head. A shooter who was a better shot would likely not have missed on that first shot anyways, even with the slight turn of the head. And a better centered shot is more likely to cause fatal brain damage rather than a (serious) wound.

Again, do you think that this suggests a hired shooter, or a school shooter?

And finally, why use his daddy's AR15 at all? The 5.56 bullet is pretty deadly, but this is an operation you can't afford to fuck up. Why not use a 7.62 bullet from an M1A or AR10? A 7.62 would be surer to kill in the event of a hit. It would have been less moved by the wind, which may have been why the bullet missed. And it would be accurate at a longer range, which would have allowed for a shot from further away. Also, a proper scope could have allowed for adjustments for windage.

BlackRock wouldn't need daddy's gun. But if you're just a wanna be assassin, no shit you use daddy's gun. It's what you have, and it's right there.

And no, I don't think that the Secret Service were trying to allow Trump to be killed. And for a simple reason. They shot the shooter shortly after he made his first few shots. If they wanted him to succeed, all they had to do was nothing for a bit longer, and let him have a fifth, sixth, or so chance to hit Trump. And it's not like Trump was running away to hide. He stood up again after the shots and gave the shooter another chance, or would have if the Secret Service hadn't already shot Crooks

So again, if someone had hired a shooter to kill Trump, is this what it would have looked like? No. There is so much room for improvement, it strains belief. Just look at Lee Harvey Oswald, the excellent-shot former marine who posed as a worker, and who was hidden from view basically until after he killed a cop in his escape. And if Matthew Crooks were basically a school shooter, it would look like... exactly what we got.

>>374913
>>374913
Investment firms have been trying to short-sell DJT for months. Just do a google search. Here's one from May talking about mass-shorting of Trump Media shares
https://www.barrons.com/articles/djt-trump-media-stock-price-buy-sell-66bf9310

Here's an article from April about short selling Trump Media
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/03/business/trump-media-short-selling.html

Another article from March of this year
https://investorplace.com/2024/03/trump-media-pop-is-giving-djt-stock-short-sellers-a-run-for-their-money/

And 12 Million shares is also a pitifully small about of money to be gained, relative to how big an assassination is. In a short, the most that you could possibly make from it is the full value of the stock, and you'd never make that much. It's worth about $36 a share. That means that the most to be made off of that is about $43 Million. That's the same amount that Elon Musk pledged to donate to the Trump campaign each month after the assassination attempt. Joe Biden raises about half that much in a single donor meeting. And the cost of the political campaigns is in the billions. $43 million is pitifully small by comparison. There are much better ways to make money off a political assassination that short selling a moderately popular social media site. And again, they've been short selling it for a while.

>>374915
>Functionally-illiterate people should not be allowed to use computers
We agree
>>374917
You seem resolved to the idea that theres nothing to see here, so good luck with that. Regardless what your precious interpretation suggests, DT has a pillow where part of his ear was. That alone suggests that the threat was more credible than you in the very clear aftermath are willing to accept.

>>374923
You're not getting it. This absolutely could have resulted in Trump dying, and almost did. That's why I am sure that it wasn't staged by Trump's campaign or anyone to be a failed assassination attempt - the risk that Trump could have died was too great. But if it was intended to be a real assassination, there are so many places that they could have done better, that they certainly would have done better.

It's like getting a 65 on a test. You "almost" passed. But if you were trying to pass, you almost certainly would have done better than a 65, at least with the resources available to BlackRock or a well funded assassin group. But if you were trying to fail, you would have done worse than a 65, because 65 is very nearly passing. Ergo, the most likely scenario is that someone who didn't have access to decent resources - like a lone gunman, or a gaggle of leftist youths in conspiracy - was trying to assassinate Trump, rather than a conspiracy by well connected and well funded individuals either to assassinate Trump or to fail to assassinate him.

>>374925
>That's why I am sure that it wasn't staged by Trump's campaign
Who suggested it was?
Are you suggesting that the only explanation for a failed assassination on Trump is that Trump (or someone close) orchestrated it? Are you mental?

>>374876
Reality is stranger. Also at times simple.
Many who seek positions of power are unburdened by morals, except as a tool for public support.
People have high points and low points, in cognition and efficacy.
Long term planning can be done by whoever wants it (satan jews and muslims and any one else that can contented with those two interest groups for that long) in exchange for immoral short term gains.
Now sometimes the short term gains fuck up the long term and vis versa.
However the short term actors get their fix from the long term planners they just do a general guideline sometimes with specific instructions.
Getting into the loop is a matter of who you know, how useful you are and if you meet their criteria.
Useful retards are given extremely short term gains, such as antifa. They get feeling and most of that psychological conditioning. Just as easily disposed of... usually.
The longer term asset against how short term gains that they can get is how disposable they are.
There are differing factions within those groups and between short term and long term and various counter workings with long term vs long term.
They all think (You) as you currently are is a problem, especially if you have children raised in a loving environment.
Short term, because they can't enslave, diddle or sacrifice them ect. ect. as easily as they want.
Long term, because either you or your successors will fuck them up.
With the mentally unhinged as easy to grow and dispose pawns it's a matter of which long term group can more readily move them to do their bidding.
That's not to say the short term groups don't band together more often then not, but it's based on all them maintaining their place and ready to backstab till they expire.
Expanding this to each connected chain where subordinates have subordinates or call on useful idiots.
Some with totally legal moves. And others that just need to never be caught.
The competence of the chain is more like mercenary or auction work, whoever can get it done, their reputation of getting stuff done and the price of payment. A fluid sort of structure of sorts.
New talents can come in, and old talents and bring in some into the family trade.
Some are actually talented at what they do. More often than not is the low skill but long term positioning to do one thing. Some can't do it.
If they can't they get removed one way or another or they get to try again.
Also groups can subcontract out to other groups.
Thus in short the web of intrigue with a wide array of skill, competence, morals, desires and micro-networks.
Some are retards, some have to not be totally retarded to keep the wheels greased.

So yes it is possible to have a vast conspiracy full of fuck tards and lock step competence.
Maintaining that needs some dark deeds done daily. The logistics network for that, can be broken.
If the short term fucks don't get their fix, they turn to whoever can, and if not they become more self destructive.
Up and up the chain and networks it goes the consequences of a ruined logistics network.
One thing to note is that interpersonal rivalries or enemies can and do occur, but being less useful to others means they're more likely to be replaced and the rival or personal enemy wins.

Classy as always.

>>374926
Dude, read the post.

I am saying that the best explanation for the result that we got is that Matthew Crooks, acting alone, or in conspiracy with people of talent and resources similar to his own, tried to kill Donald Trump. The evidence is not consistent with a failed attempt by a well-funded and well-connected conspiracy to kill Donald Trump. The evidence is also not consistent with a staged assassination attempt.

>Who
People have suggested that it was staged. It's not a popular opinion in this thread, but people have said it.

>>374929
>the evidence is not consistent with a failed assassination attempt OR a legitimate assassination attempt
I'm eager to hear you validate that point

>>374930
It's not consistent with a failed or legitimate assassination attempt by someone with resources and connections. I'm pretty sure we are in fact looking at a failed, legitimate assassination attempt, carried out by a 20 year old leftist activist whose most notable accomplishment is a math award, and who was blessed with a very not-trigger happy Secret Service detail to be up against.

Where am I wrong in >>374917 >>374898
>>374855 ? Do you have any arguments as to why we should believe this is a failed assassination attempt by a group with solid connections and resources? Or in the alternative, that this was staged?

>>374931
>I'm pretty sure
Oh, well that makes all the difference in the world, doesnt it?
>Where am I wrong in
Because you assume a comprehensive perspective, while ignoring perpsectives

No one (that I know of) said "believe" anything, except you who's mind seems quite made up. Im just offering different perspectives. Thats still allowed, yes?

>>374932
>>374933
Okay. I've presented my perspective above and have backed it with facts and logic. If there is an alternative perspective that is better supported by the facts or by logic than mine, please present it along with said accompanying facts and logic.

>>374934
I think you mean "inference and rhetoric", but w/e

>>374929
Plausible deniability.
A mostly useless asset was in position. On the off chance they fuck up, which they shouldn't it's some radical nutjob which is true but the ties can be discredited via the usual means and methods.
Mostly cheap and easy to give it a shot. And either way won't have to be paid because he's dead either way. On the off chance he survives it's worth it for them to remove such a strange player.
That doesn't mean all the long term groups were on board or short term groups, but enough to have the ball rolling and fuck it up.
Enough to try it with whatever they pulled.
>Staged.
Then there's some strange bedfellows making it look staged and real enough.
>Deliberately miss (which could actually kill the president) or have an alternative means to wound and kill the bystanders.
Which would require a higher order of competence from more people, and equipment and with all the other potential digital recordings accounted for.
<reality is a strange place.

>>374937
Plausible deniability

>>374937
The thing is that there were alternative possible shooters that would have had an equal amount of plausible deniability, but would have had a greater chance at success that it's very hard to believe that Crooks would have been chosen by a larger conspiracy. Of course someone like a former Navy Seal Sniper would have drawn attention, but that's unnecessary. There are so many better options

Look at Lee Harvey Oswald; he's a pretty good example. Lee Harvey Oswald was a former US Marine who undertook actual firearms training. He was trained as a shooter, and qualified as a "sharpshooter. It is a well known story that a shot that was graded as a "miss" in a test was very likely a hit that went through the hole of previous bullet. He was employed at the Texas School Book depository. Lee Harvey Oswald was all around a more likely candidate to succeed at assassinating a president than Crooks ever was, but still plausibly just a cooky communist.

I went to school with a former US Airforce security guard who was a hell-bent committed Democrat. I know several Democrats who are avid gun owners and shooters. People who hate Trump but also actually know how to use a gun are not that uncommon. There are tens of thousands, and likely millions of liberals who own firearms, know how to use them, or even have military experience using firearms.

Matthew Crooks didn't have much range experience. He was not in the ROTC, he wasn't a veteran. He didn't even have his own gun. The price of failing at this assassination attempt for anyone trying is very high - they would have taken it seriously and wouldn't have risked it on Matthew Crooks. There are so many better candidates that are equal in plausible deniability, like that old classmate of mine.

>>374928
I guess we have four more years of dictatorship to look forward to.

>>374866
Oh, heck, I'm retarded. Forget about it.
On a side note. It would be kinda surprising if the remotely detonated explosives were actually in a functional state. I wouldn't call it a lone wolf hit if that's the case.

some other crap developing
https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/trump-rally-shooter-thomas-matthew-crooks-discord-account-deleted-company-issues-statement-article-111737768
>shitcord roleplays police and decides to delete suspects account declaring nothing to see there
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/15/trump-rally-shooting-suspect-phone-fbi
>Phone cracked

and as speculations have started to fly from all sides to all directions, lets add some stuff in that pile

>>374939
Another theory is that a minor section wanted to be more influential called the resources it has on call, but didn't want to pay an exorbitant price for a suicide mission so penny pinched to a minimum viable stooge. Or for a ritualistic purpose. Or for reputation.

>>374928
>staged
>when literally people died
>when bullets have to fly in the general direction of the man
No matter how competent one is with a gun, both are just such massive coin flips that no sane human being/org would ever cook it up. Now who's the one all conspiracy-theorizing?
I'm becoming increasingly convinced that this whole event is genuinely divine intervention, cuz the reverberations knocking off the masks of these evil people all through the world borders on supernatural.

>>374896
continuation to this and it smells

>>374963
How nice of the SEC to save Austin Private Wealth from
a loss on 11,998,800 shorted shares.

>>374963
Oy vey goy twelve millions? Wasn't it twleve thousands? Overcharging twelve hundreds?
How much was it Moshe?
As yes it was twleve uhhh shares.
It was some goys falt too.
We did it on the... twelfth.
Yes goy it's all just a big misunderstanding, nothing to see here.

>>374955
>>374959
>>374963
I was leaning towards a lone nut but when you combine all these together then something is definitely fishy. Someone had to have gone around to all these and told them something was going to happen, and the identity of this person(s) is the lynchpin for any investigation.

Time Magazine has removed the Evan Vucci picture of former President Trump from their upcoming issue, claiming it is "photoganda"

Combined with Wikipedia making frantic moves to ban any uploading or display of that image, I look forward to it becoming the photo that never happened and every effort being made to just delete it from reality.

Considering the massive newsstand surges of previous "Event Covers" such as 9/11, the Kennedy assassination, Princess Diana's funeral, etc., it is interesting that Time is willfully forfeiting tens of millions of dollars in revenue from checkout sales to stand by their political principles.

Axios has an interesting piece interviewing numerous journalists saying that Vucci was wrong to even release the photo and should have simply discarded it when he realized how much it would help Trump, but he is a freelancer and needed a paycheck
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/16/trump-shooting-photos-photographers-view

>>374855
Most points seconded. Any chucklefuck could have easily caused far worse. This entire situation is far too fluid to have been planned large scale in any manner.

Also fuck everyone at Uvalde and all acorn copniggers.

>>374876
THIS. zog is utter nepotism that encourages complete laziness, extreme ignorance, extreme arrogance, and blind devotion, combined with the ultimate inferiority-superiority conflict.

>>374928
>Fucking Chatoyance here to bitch about the assassination attempt being a failure.

Faggot, you created a giant fanfiction series about ponies doing dystopian human-to-pony-conversion bullshit that was completely antithetical to the message of Friendship. You're one to fucking talk.

>>374963
Where is the source for this? I'd like to share this far and wide.

>>375011
based graph/infographic autism saved the Don's life

>>375011
Ore o dare datto motte aru!!
Nice dubs btw

>>374458
F

Also, let me propose a quandry:
Donald Trump's assassin was either:
A. Competent, and it's a miracle divine jesus magic that he survived
B. Incompetent, and should feel bad, and omfg Donald got shot by this newb

>>375019
False dichotomy, tbh. He had an incredibly clear shot. He didn't need to be competent to hit him.

>>375020
So, not a miracle then?

Whole lotta ppl at the rnc saying it was a miracle,....

>>375019
It was a combination of both, from what I've heard. The idiot in question was using an AR15 build that had an effective range of ~600 meters, so the shot wouldn't have been an issue if it was made by someone who could A) account for wind, and B) take a good shot instead of trying to wait for a perfect one.

>>375021
Avoiding being shot in the head because of a split second turn of the head is pretty miraculous.

>>375003
their own frontpage https://austinprivatewealth.com/

>>375056
https://web.archive.org/web/20240718173413/https://austinprivatewealth.com/news-and-events
archive link to their news page having that announcement

>>375026
>>375035
Right, but if the shooter was incompetent, then it wouldnt qualify as "divine intervention"

>>375088
the "divine intervention" part comes from the shooter hesitating for half a second too long and the wind being just enough to blow the bullet off course into his ear. If he had been standing completely still on a day where there was no wind, even that incompetent idiot could've pulled off that shot.

>>375089
So the shooter was incompetent, but divine intervention was still necessary?

>>375091
Yes, I don't know why that's hard to understand. You can be mugged by a nincompoop who's never been in a fight in his life, but if he has a weapon you can still easily die to it.

>>375092
It is hard to understand divine intervention being necessary if the shooter was as incompetent as is being suggested.
I argue that divine inter-fucking-vention being entirely unnecessary if the shooter was incompetent. Competence means success, and if divine intervention is the difference between success and failure, then I dont know how you can argue incompetence.

>>375091
the shooter was incompetent, yet knew enough of his own incompetency to try to compensate with choice of gun. after all, he took that first near-perfect shot and then sprayed into a crowd instead of going back to aim at Trump's center-mass

>>375094
You're seriously trying to have your cake and eat it too?

>>375095
it's called having more than one slice of cake, you should try it sometime

>>375096
You have a weird way of suggesting adopting double-think

>>375093
Then it's a matter of semantics. I'd argue that competence is not a synonym of success, since you can do everything perfectly (most people would call this competence) and still fail due to random chance. The shooter's lack of capability (what we are calling incompetence) and chance events both contributed to the miss. That's all we're saying.

>>375099
You're jumping through alot of hoops there. How's about you admit that if God felt necessary to intervene then MAYBE - however improbably - that the shooter was more credible of a threat than is being acknowledged?

Simple. Did God change the trajectory of the bullet? Does God change the trajectory of bullets that aren't a threat?

At what point are you going to acknowledge that divine intervention rises to the level of extreme threat? Like, do you understand the concept of divine intervention?

>>375102
Anyone with a gun can be a threat. Like they say, "God made men, but John Moses Browning made men equal."

And when we say it's divine intervention, it can be a statement of faith or it can be hyperbole to describe an improbable event, depending on who's saying it. The only two things the shooter did incompetently (and I mean in terms of bad on-the-spot decisions) was that he didn't account for the wind and he aimed for the head rather than center mass. If he had done either of those things, then he would have hit his target. So yes, incompetence saved Donald Trump.

It's also a fact that despite the shooter's lack of proficiency, the bullet would have lethally hit Trump if Trump hadn't turned his head in a split second. This was sheer luck, or, as one might put it, "divine intervention." So Trump was saved by that too.

All of these factors had to be combined for Trump to survive, and so it's fair to use both terms.

>>375103
Yes, that is precisely the double-think I was talking about.
>sweating_hero_button_meme.png
<God intervened in Trump's assassination
>Trump's assassin was incompetent, except for God's intervention

>>375019
Pause. You have too limited of options.
A. Competent, no miracle.
B. Incompetent, no miracle.
C. Competent, miracle.
D. Incompetent, miracle.
These are too broadstroke but let's explore them anyway.
A) Can hit a target shooter had publicly known little training has enough experience to compensate for various factors.
The target turning and leaning just at the right time and with at least neutral wind conditions.
Target lives due to forseen factors taken into consideration, the behavior and movement accounted for till a random impulse through off the expected behavior. Possible foreseen or unforseen side effects of drugs kicked/kicking in.
Other various errors accumulate. Possibly arising too fast to be accounted for at the moment of execution.
B. Ree Tardy Oswald had everything going alright, for some reason the left-wing media is there, getting into position and just staring at the sniper looking right at him and scaring off a police. So far it's a breeze. Perfect moment too for a lucky perfect shot.
Annnnd, failed. The target using chromosome kung-fu read the itchy finger of the extra chromosomes to look better at a powerpoint to add insult to injury, lining up for multiple photogenic operations.
C. God knows all this, just have the target move a tiny bit. As the shooter had totally cemented his decision, and point out that shot is technically a perfect shot.
D. It's C, but I'll add fun posting. Jonah burning on the roof went to go send a message, and did a bit of malicious compliance. Instead of using words it'll be with a manufactured stone propelled with fire. God seeing the alternative messaging system decides to help him out a bit and give him the ear so the message can be more readily heard.
In a fury of actuality doing the point of sending a message but failed in the malicious compliance keeps shooting.
Giving a slap on the cheek as the last message of declaring all bets are off. The rounds hit the bystanders. One's a punch in the gut dropping the message off quick, the next ones have near fatal repercussions. Stopping the fire fight a figher fighter stopped a bullet. Earning some rest from the upcoming shitstorm.
There's quite a lot of flexibility and where the scope grows or concentrates.
E adding some schizo logic. This wasn't a hit piece on the president, but to target the fire chief and other targets behind the aforementioned president. By barely missing attention is fully diverted to the very successful hit disguised as a botched assassination. Unless it was supposed be someone else in which case very bad hitjob.
>>375104
Don't try to limit how God can intervene He does the highest quality shitposts, jokes and prevention.

Here is where my coin is now. Basically he was lone nut, but with a twist.

Starting from this >>374965 , if that means that he was part of this >>374784 then it would make this also very viable part >>374782 . So from this he was most likely having main character syndrome from that school shooting hurrdurr when someone else went to jail for it. Then it has been getting worse by shitposting in circlejerk holes where idiots go. Eventually delusions grew to point that it was time to do his real life action movie starring. As there were news that he was scouting and going around venue well before event and not stopped that time, most likely made everything worse. Then comes the day where he will shoot former president and do miraculous escape afterwards, by blowing up explosives as distraction or something. He is crawling on roof and he can hear people yelling that there is guy on roof, but no-one is stopping him so it affirms to him that he is main character. Now he is taking aim and haven't felt more excited ever before and of course he is going for head shot as that's what is coolest shot, just like in action movie. Then Trump suddenly turns his head and he pulls on trigger on reflex. Shot misses, his heart sinks and he tries to shoot more with no aim, before bullet slams into his head and story ends. True nose ending >>374651 (There are lots and lots of studies of jews having all kind on mental problems).

So effectively he was lone nut executing his "perfect plan" with no outside assistance or grooming, from his viewpoint that is. So here comes the twist.

From that school shooting threat time he was already totally on radar and under surveillance. And all his retardation was followed down to fated day. So there is someone that is going to be taking shot at high profile target without any grooming. So basically some incompetent idiot thought that this is perfect crime material and decided to green light this attempt. So what this means is that then on purpose security was told to effectively be very unresponsive by giving instructions that be very very sure that you are right before taking any action and other possible instructions that would distract security oriented from not paying attention to things they should and act on them fast (like giving instruction to only pay attention to middle aged and older men). So basically why retard first had free roaming with his scouting and then when shit goes down he had free movement to act. So it doesn't really require everyone in security detail to be in plan. And honestly Trump SS detail pretty much looked like as most expendable meat shields SS can could find from its ranks that day.

Problem then is that incompetent idiot that green lighted whole shit got greedy and has more incompetent idiot friends who spread inside info, resulting to anomalies in reporting activity and predatory attempts at money.

This basically fits into observations aside of incompetent idiots side as that is still black box and all factual data is observing how security acted.

Then other fun stuff that came out of this, like Iranian influence and explosives. Why did he have explosives and remote detonator and where did he get them? So here is my asspull on these, this was what they thought to be their grand cover for things, Trump getting killed by some Iranian influenced guy in revenge or something, badbimbadaboom, war in Iran. Basically their perfect plan would had required Trump to get killed, then kid get killed and explosives to go off to emphasize on terror aspect. Effectively suspect had detonator, but no-one said its only detonator, so it wouldn't matter if retard gets brains splattered before he manages to make explosives go off. Also incompetent retards gone all in, so now they have lot of greedy shit to clean up.

>CNN still running with it
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/16/politics/iran-plot-assassinate-trump-secret-service/index.html
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/17/iran-blasts-us-accusations-of-trump-assassination