>>365920>"Abuse" is relative in the first place.Oh, fuck off!
I'm not going to sit here playing word games with you. If that's your intention, then you can fuck right off.>hauling Jewish bankers out of their homes by their noses and burning them alive in public would be a perfectly acceptable use of the power and resources
And, when that doesn't fix the problem?>This isn't fascism.
Yes, it is.>So a system with private ownership of companies and economic enterprise for-profit is not capitalist?
No, that's a free market economy.>What is capitalist then?
Depends on if you want to go with Marx's definition (Which is simply anything that isn't "Socialist") or the definition provided by Leon Walras (That a "capitalist" is the person who provides to tools for work to occur).>Fascists do not believe this.
Yes, they do.>Wanting to change society for the better is "socialist"?
changing it for the "better", not even close, it's changing the world because because they're angry with the world. They try to claim that it's for the "betterment of people", but said people is just them and them alone, everyone else needs to "do the work".>That's all there is to it?
In terms of motivation, yes.>You're just called """socialism""" a mindset so vague that it could be applied to any political entity or ideology
What is the political ideology called where people want the government to stop interfering with their lives and leave them alone?>If there were no differences or nuances between political ideologies
Certain ideologies, yes.>this board wouldn't even need to exist
"This board" exists because of an April Fools prank. If you mean /pol/, itself, that
exists because moot was tired of seeing all the political discussion and ironic Hitler posting filling up threads on /b/.>Socialism is it's own ideology, and so is fascism.
No, they're the same thing.>Fascism emerged specifically to combat the spread of socialism.
Yes, by being "Right Wing" Socialism, that uses the same tactics and methods of regular Socialism because that's where the entire ideology comes from.>>365921>We've seen corporations pull the same tricks of explaining authoritarian policies as for the greater good.
And, when companies did that, people collectively told them to fuck off.>I didn't say that.
So, what other possibilities are there aside from Nazi Germany and West Taiwain?>I was pointing to a situation that exists today
Yeah, for one country that exists in Asia, and is hated even by their closest allies.>did you read the title of The Selfish Gene
No, haven't even heard of it.>It's not magic, it's blood and soil.
It is "magic" when you're talking about how people are suppose to collectively come together and think exactly the same way and be perfectly fine with it.>But despite this, living standards for serfs were better than for lower class fulltime workers.
That's absolute steaming bullshit and you know it: https://archive.li/eonV7
Why is it fucking third-world immigrants, and refugees from any and every Socialist nation that ever tried it, seem to be the only people who actually see how good modern life is?>>365923>He was just saying that he preferred fascism under Hitler to whatever the fuck we have now.
What he's describing isn't even what "we" have right now. The closest country I can think of that he's describing is West Taiwan; with every Western European country, Leafland, and Worst Korea coming in as a close second, but still not being as bad as what he's describing.>Fascism doesn't necessarily have to work the same way it did in the 20th century.
There's no other way it can work because it's still Socialism. The only difference would be the same "change" Marxism has gone through, which is in it's marketing (Marxism -> Socialism -> Cultural Marxism -> Sustainable Capitalism).>fascism is not necessarily extreme
Yes, it is.>Who do you know who "champions" fascism who calls it the same as socialism?
Mussolini and Hitler>What the fuck does that even mean?
Rather than attribute the "power dynamics" of society to culture and market forces like Marx and his followers do, Uncle Adolf and his group of friends attributed the "power dynamics" to one's race/nationality and identity. And, it's ALWAYS
"power dynamics".>I am somehow projecting in a defunct Freudian psychosis my secret latent desire to continue to be ruled by Jewish bankers
Yes because you're declaring something that I never said, nor implied, nor even had the chance to even come close to discussing. You don't know anything that I have to say nor what I believe
, yet immediately declare that I'm "fine" with someone else having control over my life as a defense to an argument that Socialism and Socialism are the same thing.>Fascism is founded on the concept that people will not magically stop being assholes<people need to organize to prevent it
And, they'll stop magically being assholes and never be assholes ever again. Yeah, making something illegal will prevent totally
prevent people from doing it.>as if they're not a real threat
Is Winnie in the East no longer considered a "real threat"? What about Klaus Schwab in the West?>and haven't done anything horrible to us and don't warrant any kind of organized response
Yes, that's right, give these people EXACTLY
the response they want. Instead of, you know, rejecting to play their game altogether and living your life to the fullest and in the best way possible.