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Anonymous
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hay guys
what are your thoughts on using horse paste to treat coof virus?
this shit has been talked about for months but just in the last week there has been a nuke of disinformation dropped on the entire internet. I'll post some links and stuff here and hope to see some further discussion, and perhaps others can weigh in with their opinions.

And there's human ivermectin formulations you can get from a doctor if you for some reason prefer that.

Clinical studies on Ivermectin's effectiveness:
https://ivmmeta.com/
FAQ by reputable clinicians
https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/faq-on-ivermectin

SAFETY
Prof J. Descotes, renowned French toxicologist's 47 page paper of Safety Of Ivermectin, from March 2021
https://thevirus.wtf/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Clinical_Safety_of_Ivermectin-March_2021.pdf

>Ivermectin has continually proved to be astonishingly safe for human use. Indeed, it is such a safe drug, with minimal side effects, that it can be administered by non-medical staff and even illiterate individuals in remote rural communities, provided that they have had some very basic, appropriate training. This fact has helped contribute to the unsurpassed beneficial impact that the drug has had on human health and welfare around the globe, especially with regard to the campaign to fight Onchocerciasis.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/
PCS/INCHEM Toxicology report on ivermectin (Sections 2, 7 and 11 especially relevant)
https://inchem.org/documents/pims/pharm/ivermect.htm
https://youtu.be/5CXcw5DUQMk [Embed]
There are reports of accidental overdosage of ivermectin, but no fatalities have been attributable to ivermectin overdosing. (Merck 2020)
https://www.merck.ca/static/pdf/STROMECTOL-PM_E.pdf
HOW IT WORKS
The mechanisms of action of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2: An evidence-based clinical review article
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-021-00430-5
https://g0.si/dB (alternate address)

Youtube playlist of numerous videos including mechanisms of action
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf5bMa9_tvRhOX1m2kZL3ixWDxxar3lg2
Ivermectin as a Broad-Spectrum Host-Directed Antiviral: The Real Deal?
https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4409/9/9/2100/htm

From hydroxychloroquine to ivermectin: what are the anti-viral properties of anti-parasitic drugs to combat SARS-CoV-2?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33480414/

Clinical studies of ivermectin as a therapeutic and as a prophylactic
https://ivmmeta.com/
Epidemiological outcomes resulting from ivermectin programs worldwide
https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/epidemiologic-analyses-on-covid19-and-ivermectin/
These two pages are comprehensive, the peru epidemiologic study is looked at in detail here as an example. The baldy in the lower right is Dr Pierre Kory, his credentials and presentation are excellent
https://youtu.be/d6MZSWXr9Vo

Channel with dozens of video testimonials from medical experts and clinicians
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5rJlf5jdr_I6qiozbQdx-g

Joe Rogan "Emergency Broadcast" episode with Bret Weinstein and Pierre Kory
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7uVXKgE6eLJKMXkETwcw0D

More from Pierre Kory
https://covid19criticalcare.com/videos-and-press/flccc-releases/covid-ivermectin-and-the-crime-of-the-century-podcast-with-dr-pierre-kory/

Videos from the recent (Mid August) Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association press conference where they recommended Ivermectin for COVID 19 treatment, making japan the first developed world country to do so
https://files.catbox.moe/dg2qzw.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/crhjq1.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/a02xrk.mp4

Horse Paste Instructions, follow these if you have some horse paste for covid protection after suspected exposure or if your community is at elevated risk
https://youtu.be/VNPSBYSr5XA
https://www.barnhardt.biz/ivermectin/

Ivermectin Prescriptions
List of docs worldwide who are prescribing ivermectin as a covid precaution
https://covid19criticalcare.com/network-support/the-flccc-alliance/
And another list of docs for the united states
https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/how-to-get-ivermectin/
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Anonymous
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>>318266
To begin with, the existence a virus called covid-19 has never been proven and the test for diagnosis is a fraud.
That been said, if people feeling sick get better with Ivermectin, then by all means, go ahead.
Anonymous
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>>318268
true, but there is some kind of illness that vaguely matches other respiratory virus syndromes going around, and it's causing significant fuss. for simplicity i am sidestepping the discussion of exactly what it is and am just using the convention of calling it covid/sars-cov-2.
ivermectin and the few other simple, safe, readily available products shown here https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf (pic related) have been demonstrated effective at preventing and treating illness from this pandemic. Tis was all well and good for months but now it's started to get some attention from the general public and the usual suspects are shutting it down hard. So i'm making a thread here with a collection of info, answering questions and discussing it with anyone who is curious. Hope you guys dont mind me staking out a thread on this board for as long as it's alive.
Anonymous
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>>318269
>but there is some kind of illness that vaguely matches other respiratory virus syndromes going around
According to doctors speaking on internet, the symptoms are replicated by an incredible number of sources and to blame a virus is convenient and profitable.
Among the sources named:
Poisoning by graphene oxide
Poisoning by electromagnetic radiation
Anonymous
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>>318269
>Prevention protocol for Delta Variant
This is an outright medical lie and doctors are following the government flow to profit from it.
1 - It doesn't exist a test to detect a Delta, Gamma, Epsilon, Omega, etc variant. The (((authorities))) and doctors know this.
2 - The test to detect the original virus is a fraud.
3 - Some people with a positive test were tested further and what was found is Influenza A and B, also called the common flu.
Anonymous
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>>318273
the cool thing about this is that you don't even need to involve a doctor, you can just order the things on the list from your preferred supplier for very cheap.
Anonymous
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>>318274
And if an emergency shows up at home, the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine can be found out of the counter by drinking tonic water.
>>293210 →
>>268494 →
>>265405 →
Anonymous
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>>318275
yeah that's quinine, tasy and safe in quantities found in tonic water, and doesn't hurt for protecting your cells from viruses. it was used as an anti malaria drug before chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine was invented, and it's completely natural.
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>>318277
>it was used as an anti malaria drug before chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine was invented
You have a misunderstanding.
Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are commercial names of a plant's extract. There is nothing scientific or technological here.
The process is very simple:
Put the plant to boil and get a concentrate of its juice.
By chemical means (chlorine) precipitate the extract.
Dry it and ship it in tablet or paste form.
Profit!!! The ignorant goyim will pay handsomely for it!
Anonymous
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>>318280
The plant is called quinine.
Anonymous
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>>318281
How easy is it to grow?
Do you need specialized equipment? A dedicated room, like a greenhouse?
Anonymous
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>>318280
>Profit!!! The ignorant goyim will pay handsomely for it!
Actually the market price of this drug is from 10 to 20 cents a pill, not expensive at all.

>>318282
>How easy is it to grow?
No idea.
Anonymous
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>>318282
I think it's a tree, cinchona. according to here you can grow it in the UK. https://pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Cinchona+officinalis
Anonymous
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chloroquine isn't really available anymore, easily anyway, ebay et al shut down the sellers a while back.
Anonymous
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>>318266
that there is still no ivermarectine horse paste oc(now with apple flavor!)
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>>318310
Someponer said apple flavor?
Anonymous
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Definitely a psyop. This idea that horse dewormer can fight the coof was made up by the system so that the media could say "wow look at all these dumb anti-vaxxers taking horse dewormer, you sure don't wanna be like these guys!" Normies on the fence are supposed to look at all the retards who actually fell for it and feel shamed into getting the vaccine.
Anonymous
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>>318311
aye, although what part of ivermarectin's body is apple flavored is up to you to decide ;)
>>318328
do you never tire of being retarded?
Anonymous
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>>318311
An appul a day
Anonymous
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I have heard of this a few weeks ago from a canadian nurse I know really well.

Probably good shit.
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>>318328
Ivermectin is an anti-parasitic that was invented in the 70s and has been used on humans since the 80s. It's used to fight several diseases worldwide and has been proven safe and effective for doing so. It's so safe it can be prescribed by African witch-doctors and illiterate farmers in the middle of the jungle.
Also I think it's very telling that out of all the ACTUAL bullshit home remedies for COVID, Youtube and other big tech specifically name drop Ivermectin and HCQ as (((misinformation))). Their denial is suspiciously specific here, made all the more odd because Ivermectin is completely safe to ingest, so even if it does nothing positive against COVID it'll do no harm. Obviously the pharma industry has a vested interest in keeping the vaccine gravy train rolling, and it'd be bad for their business if people could instead treat COVID with a generic, cheap wonder drug.
Anonymous
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>>318334
What makes you think that an anti-parasite drug would treat a virus? There is no evidence or logic to support that. It is not an anti-viral drug.
And yes, those kinds of topical drugs are mostly harmless, but they can make you ill if you take absurd doses of it, like someone desperate/stupid enough to think it could treat a SARS virus might.
Overall, the main issue is that people who take this stuff are given a false sense of security into thinking this is actually helping their sickness when it's not.
>>318328
Quite possibly a psyop, or at least a trend that the media has been focusing on in order to discredit individuals skeptical of the pharmaceutical industry.
Anonymous
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>>318336
>What makes you think that an anti-parasite drug would treat a virus?
Thanks for your question.
same reason aspirin works as a pain relief medication, and as an anticoagulant, sometimes a molecule can have multiple distinct therapeutic effects.

There is a lot of information out there about ivermectin as a broad-spectrum antiviral medicaiton, see for example this review in Nature's Journal of Antibiotics.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-020-0336-z
Ivermectin: a systematic review from antiviral effects to COVID-19 complementary regimen
Anonymous
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>>318337
I've been looking at this, but I'm really not convinced. This only suggests that one of the chemicals in the drug *could* plausibly interfere with RNA replication (which woesn't necessarily halt the spread of the virus), but there's no evidence to suggest that it could inhibit the replication of the virus to any significant degree, let alone to cure the disease or relieve symptoms.

I'll have to read more to get a concrete opinion, but as of now this looks pretty arbitrary.
How was this tested?
Anonymous
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>>318338
I've read that Ivermectin also reduces inflammation in the lungs, but I don't have a source on me right now. I'll have to look for it.
Anonymous
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>>318338
The drug ivermectin is a single chemical, the antiviral effect of it is not really a question. If you are speaking specifically about its effects on the sars-cov-2 virus, there is another quite good article here detailing the mechanisms of action of ivermectin on that particular virus.
The mechanisms of action of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2: An evidence-based clinical review article
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-021-00430-5
I can point you to table 2 in this article which summarizes each effect (pic related is part of this table), and for more detail on each effect listed in table 2 see under the heading "The role of Ivermectin against the SARS-CoV-2 virus" in the results section

How was this tested?
Currently it is feing used as a frontline treatment in the management of covid, the most accessible meta analysis of clinical outcomes is available at ivmmeta.com, an excellently presented resource.
It has also been used in various countries and states in the developing world for managing the pandemic at a population health level, you can see epidemiological data here https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/epidemiologic-analyses-on-covid19-and-ivermectin/

Of these epidemiological studies the Peru study is especially well conducted and i recommend that one if you want a study that eliminates noise and confounding factors as well as you could hope for. A video here has a quick rundown of the Peru study for those interested as well https://youtu.be/d6MZSWXr9Vo?t=184
Anonymous
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>>318339
I did a quick search for this, there are several articles that mention anti-inflammatory effects even without a viral infection, but the dosages seem quite high in the first one i read so i don't think it's something i would be able to comment on.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7476419/
>Moreover, there are two reports that ivermectin, administered either systemically or topically, exerts anti-inflammatory effects in murine models of allergic inflammation (asthma and atopic dermatitis).[7] [8] The systemic effect was achieved with a 2 mg/kg dose.
2mg/kg is 10 times higher than the recommended dose for preventing covid symptoms as shown here https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf
Anonymous
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>>318338
It’s also worth noting that Pfizer themselves are working on an oral drug that effectively aims to do the same thing Ivermectin seems to do. It’s one thing to discourage research on treatments to shill vaccines, but the absolute defamation of Ivermectin is on another level. Half the people I talk to believe it’s used only on animals and a good portion of the other half (like yourself) see no way an “anti-parasite drug” could be effective against covid. It’s definitely a psyop but not the way you think.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210802/Pfizer-moves-towards-an-oral-anti-COVID-19-therapy.aspx
Anonymous
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>>318351
I see no definitive evidence that this would be effective.
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>>318354
Stop ignoring 624d017 then. He's dropped a dozen scientific papers about it by now but you're just ignoring him because you have no refutation.
Anonymous
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>>318359
No, I have indeed been reading them, but this doesn't look like actual proof.
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>>318361
Whatever fag.
I identify as a horse.

STOP PERSECUTING MY SEXUALITY
Anonymous
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>>318361
it's perfectly fine to be skeptical, i am advising eating horse paste after all. if you can elaborate on what "proof" or "definitive evidence" you would find convincing i might be able to point you to it.
Anonymous
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>>318366
None of the links I've looked at so far show any solid evidence for this drug working better than any other topical drug or antiviral; they only give loose chemistry-based arguments for how it "could" work, without any actual large-scale clinical testing on the subject. You could say the same thing with any number of random drugs.
So unless I had worms, I see no reason to put this stuff in my body.
Anonymous
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>>318336
>What makes you think that an anti-parasite drug would treat a virus?
infranigger, read the post you conveniently ignored >>318330
Anonymous
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>>318367
>been taking 200μg/Kg every other week for months now
>perfectly fine
IM A HORSE
SPECIES IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
RESPECT MY PRONOUNS
Neigh/FHPFHPFHPFHP
Anonymous
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>>318367
>without any actual large-scale clinical testing on the subject
if you are looking for large scale clinical testing you can look at the below links, especially the first one. I just copy pasted the below from my original reply to you, and as you seem to be retarded i have attached a couple of images for you to look at as well...

>Currently it is being used as a frontline treatment in the management of covid, the most accessible meta analysis of clinical outcomes is available at https://ivmmeta.com/ , an excellently presented resource.
>It has also been used in various countries and states in the developing world for managing the pandemic at a population health level, you can see epidemiological data here https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/epidemiologic-analyses-on-covid19-and-ivermectin/

>Of these epidemiological studies the Peru study is especially well conducted and i recommend that one if you want a study that eliminates noise and confounding factors as well as you could hope for. A video here has a quick rundown of the Peru study for those interested as well https://youtu.be/d6MZSWXr9Vo?t=184
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>Thermonuclear: 2012 published study shows Ivermectin inhibits HIV and Dengue fever viral replication. The suppression of Ivermectin as an antiviral, especially against HIV, is also about covering Anthony Fauci’s crime against humanity by murdering millions of AIDS patients with the failed chemotherapy drug AZT and withholding effective treatments
>Oh, this campaign against Ivermectin goes so much deeper than any of us realize. This goes beyond BigPharma defending its $50 billion per year over-the-counter cold and flu symptom remedy market by withholding a safe and effective cold and flu preventative.
>This goes all the way back to Anthony Fauci’s murder of millions of HIV and AIDS patients since the mid-1980s by pushing the poisonous, totally ineffective and WILDLY €XP€N$IV€ failed chemotherapy drug AZT as “the ONLY treatment for HIV and AIDS”.
>This also goes back to covering for BigPharma and the WHO and the disasterous Dengvaxia roll-out that killed children in the Philippines by – wait for it – causing an AMPLIFIED risk and hyper-immune reaction to Dengue Fever when encountered in the wild post-vaccination. Sound familiar?
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/08/30/thermonuclear-2012-published-study-shows-ivermectin-inhibits-hiv-and-dengue-fever-viral-replication-the-suppression-of-ivermectin-as-an-antiviral-especially-against-hiv-is-also-about-covering-anth/
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/05/03/719037789/botched-vaccine-launch-has-deadly-repercussions?t=1630335896583
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3327999/
Anonymous
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>>318371
thank you spanish anon for the OC, i have saved and used it several times already.
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>Rand Paul says scientists won't study horse-deworming drug ivermectin's use as a potential COVID cure because of their 'hatred for Trump'
https://news.yahoo.com/rand-paul-claims-scientists-wont-045732346.html
Anonymous
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>>318397
that FDA tweet is pretty epic though. one of the greatest shitposts of the year
Anonymous
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>>318398
Horses agree.
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>>318397
The thing I hate about this the most is that Ivermectin is NOT a "horse-paste", and the media is calling it such only as a method of de-legitimizing it in the minds of normies. It's been used in humans for decades. That's like saying antibiotics are "pig medicine" because they feed it to livestock.
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>>318403
Best thing is horse fuckery is going to live again on 4cucked /pol/.
Anonymous
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>>318404
KEK.
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With all the talk about Ivermectin... I had to dust this off.
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>>318428
regeneron actually seems like a good therapy if you get sick, this old guy who has been providing information about covid since the beginning did a video about it recently. effective, but expensive. https://youtu.be/VuY5Ia5XmRA
the guy in the video has sort of assumed a role as a reliable source of information for people on youtube, he does keep in step with the establishment narrative so you need to take everything he says with a pinch of critical thinking, but for a normie or a layperson he's a decent information source.

amusingly at the 23 minute mark in the linked video he can't help himself and does a dry remark comparing regeneron to ivermectin.
Anonymous
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>>318442
Regeneron does indeed seem to be effective for a number of things. Not surprised that the ultra-rich and political elite would have a limited access cure for disease outbreaks such as this one. From what I've read it's basically an infusion of synthetic antibody proteins that latch onto pathogens in the blood stream at a rate your body can't naturally match. It's still untested though (how the rich keep it to themselves) although synthetic antibody treatments like this can be really dangerous if hastily applied, since incorrect targetting has potential to cause chronic autoimmune disorders or mess-up your microbiome by killing off symbiotic bacteria.
Anonymous
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another link i just spotted elsewhere, good introductory read

Ivermectin: enigmatic multifaceted ‘wonder’ drug continues to surprise and exceed expectations
https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711
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>>318444
Checked.
Anonymous
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>>318266
How did that video turn out so fucking creepy?
Is it the knowledge that they're all gleefully malicious leftists willingly serving pedophiles by injecting poison into the willing?
Is it the close-ups on medical iconography perverted for a foul purpose?
Is it the disturbingly fake jumps and poses struck by these leftist serial killers who'd happily slit their own wrists meaningfully(fatally) in front of you if they were told there's a chance it might convince you to follow their lead?
Maybe decades of first person shooter games convinced you to associate that perspective with control and agency so to have that stripped away from you by a corrupt totalitarian aka communist state and forced to get close to this cancer without a gun filling the bottom of the screen contributes to the disturbing feeling.
Whoever's responsible for this video would be great for horror movies. All it's missing is a chipper musical number full of gallows humor and innuendos about slavery and submission and painful half-rhymes about bending over and grabbing your ankles for the clot shot. Sure they'd never sing something like that, they'd prefer to just repeat a licensed track like "Imagine there's no heaven imagine no possessions" but if I was writing this I'd hire a pro songwriter to make a certified banger like Robot Hell but bigger.