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Lifelong winfag/macfag here. Months ago I saw that the Linux "community" pledged support for BLM and that left a sour taste in my mouth. Is there any risk that Ubuntu and other OS systems will be compromised "to own the Nazis"? There are several non-Linux Unix distributions but they are even more niche and as a complete layman I wouldn't know what to do if anything went wrong/something was incompatible. Should I go the experimental route or can I be confident that Linux won't leak my internet activity/hard drive contents?
>>1197>Lifelong winfag/macfag here>Should I go the experimental routeYup, you must do experiments and break your system, it's the best way to learn.
>>1197I'd stick with Linux and there are a number of good Ubuntu-based systems to worth with. My question is whether it's better to get Elementary or Zorin as they explicitly claim to respect users' privacy. Is this worth it or would standard Ubuntu be better?
>>1199What's better is just an opinion. There are perhaps 200 different Linux distros to choose from.
Pick one, make a bootable live USB flash pen, and you are ready to try without to install it on your hard drive.
Search "Linux live CD" to find out more about how it works.
>>1197>Linux communityLiterally who? The Linux kernel and each component of the operating system are developed independently (ie. the development of the whole OS, Linux kernel and all programs is not centralized) I bet it was just bunch of soydevs that you shouldn't worry about.
>Is there any risk that Ubuntu and other OS systems will be compromised "to own the Nazis"?it's far more likely that Windows, MacOS, Android, etc proprietary systems start flagging users as nazis/bad goys
if a open-source software gets such a feature (very unlikely), it would likely get detected by the community before it even made it into any of the distros and it would create very large backlash. The users and developers of FOSS
(Free and Open-Source Software) are generally very serious about privacy and the right of the user.
> can I be confident that Linux won't leak my internet activity/hard drive contents?yes, unless you install some obscure antifa-sponsored distro that no one cares about
>>1199>Elementary>Zorinno.
The only distros I recommend are
for beginners: Lubuntu and Xubuntu
for power users: Artix/Arch, Gentoo and Devuan/Debian
(NixOS and GuixSD are also interesting)for servers: Debian
for containers: Alpine
>>1200this.
It's highly recommended that you test the distro via LiveCD
(which can also be a USB flash drive) before you install it
>>1197>Months ago I saw that the Linux "community" pledged support for BLM and that left a sour taste in my mouth. Is there any risk that Ubuntu and other OS systems will be compromised "to own the Nazis"?Thats the good thing about FOSS, they cant. Mastadon is made by a bunch of commies, but all the could do when gab used it was whine and block it in individually hosted instances. You'll also find that the commies are overly vocal among linux users, but they arent the majority. Linus (kernel creator) himself is pretty anti-commie, even if he was forced to cuck from corporate pressure
>"You have to understand it’s not actually possible to do anything platform-wide because it’s decentralized,” he tells The Verge. “I don’t have the control.”>It’s a hard problem, playing off the deepest limitations of decentralized projects like Mastodon. Mastodon arose from the idealistic open-source software movement, designed to let anybody run their own social media site. But it was never intended to support something like Gab.https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/12/20691957/mastodon-decentralized-social-network-gab-migration-fediverse-app-blocking>Should I go the experimental route or can I be confident that Linux won't leak my internet activity/hard drive contents?The OS wont leak anything, but your browser is still gonna leak your activity to anything you use, and if you use creepy software like chrome, discord, spotify, or steam, its gonna leak some stuff. Other free OSs like freeBSD mostly just amount to a different kernel and core user-space shit. You'll still be running most of the same main software, but with worse software and hardware support
>>1201>>1200>>1199My recommendation for distros is always just:
low-effort, pre-setup: manjaro
medium-effort, customisable: arch
high-effort, very customisable: gentoo
Manjaro has good support for anything the average user would want, big up to date software repo, easy to play games on, big community, and lots of flavours. Arch takes some manual effort to setup, but its mostly following the wiki, and then you can make your own experience without relying on any specific distro or flavour. I've seen the most brain-dead indians set it up without trouble. Gentoo is like arch but even more control over everything, aswell as everything running smoother, while being a little bit harder and having a bit worse documentation and a smaller repo size
Hi ponyfags. I have a new Ubuntu rig and I wanted to make sure my CPU won't melt under load. Sensors readout doesn't come stock though and I've installed lm-sensors, psensors and xsensors. I've followed instructions from these articles:
>cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-check-cpu-temperature-on-ubuntu-linux/
>cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-find-fan-speed-in-linux-for-cpu-and-gpu/
Odd thing is that the CPU doesn't show up in the terminal when I run sensors. I ran the graphical front-ends and the result is >pic related. It's completely different from the article pictures as I'm not sure CPU even shows up, while the GPU (Sapphire Pulse Radeon 5600 XT with three fans) gives these three temperatures (it reached nearly 60 without the fans turning on, clearly I have to adjust it).
I was going to install Freon and Sensors extensions, but reading the reviews apparently they are no longer compatible). Also I don't think they would work because readings are probably taken from the terminal rather than from the BIOS. How can I get a proper CPU temp readout?
>>1213Some screencaps of the terminal are probably better. I ran a sensors scan and said yes to everything yet still the CPU doesn't show up.
>>1213>I have a new Ubuntu rig>Sensors readout doesn't come stock though and I've installed lm-sensors, psensors and xsensors. Hardly that can be fixed here.
You have to go to Ubutu forums as they are the ones supporting packages.
Remember, Ubuntu is a distro introducing many changes every release, therefore things break and regressions happen, on the other hand, bleeding edge software gives you the benefit of support for the newest hardware most of the time.
>>1213see
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lm_sensorsTry running
modprobe k10tempAlso, which kernel (uname -r)?
>>1214>3rd picdon't follow that advice as that answer is old.
>>1220P.S.
If that doesn't help, you should also try upgrading to the newest release: Go to update settings in the settings application and set it to upgrade to all releases (instead of upgrading only to LTS releases) and use the GUI to upgrade. If you can't find the GUI option, you could also use the terminal
https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/groovy/man8/do-release-upgrade.8.html (ProTip: run tmux before running do-release-upgrade)
you could also ask this on tech focused chan, such as lain >>1213What kind of cpu do you have?
>dumb fuck asking for help
>tired of being spied and legit paranoia and privacy concerns
«but linux is hard, we have only windows ...or mac»
>>2602>but linux is hardNo, it's just different and you're not used to it.
Try installing some distro to a different computer/drive and try to fix issues using the internet. Common stuff like "how do i install vlc !?!?" And make the installation something you're comfortable with using. If you get used to the way it's built and concepts are implemented you will feel like being locked-in when using windows next time.
Sounds unreal but after using linux for a long time win10 just feels like jail
>>2602>but linux is hard,Nonsense, if you install the right distro.
Allow me to share the secret, GNU/Linux distros have 3 not much mentioned flavors: Stable, Testing, and Unstable.
Stable is a hard rock solid distro with all bugs fixed and it is extremely rare to have any issue, if any, with it.
Testing as its name says is the future next release with many bugs waiting to be squashed.
Unstable is the release coming after
Testing and has plenty of experimental features and is expected to hang all the time.
So if you want easy of use and no further tweaking, in other words, just install and use;
Stable is the way to go.
Some faggots will tell you that
Stable comes with old versions of your favorite software, and this is true, BUT, yet you can install the bleeding edge versions using Flatpacks and Appimages. So the problem is solved.
By the way, I'm using MX Linux with the KDE desktop for many years already, which uses the
Stable version of Debian, so, no tweaks, no visits to the MX Forum to find solutions, are necessary at all. The distro is rock solid, it just works.
>>2604And as a testimony of the mess
Testing distros are... no better example than Ubuntu (it uses Debian Testing). Its users were and are roaming the Forum for years looking for solutions and workarounds.
That shit is really rare with
Stable distros.
>>2602>Linux is hard.Try BSD lol.
>>2604>Try installing some distro to a different computer/drive and try to fix issues using the internetThis is fantastic advice. I started using Linux like three or so years ago. But since I had work I needed to get done. I ended up dual booting a Linux distro with windows. Today I only really use windows for Adobe.
>>2606This. Avoid Ubuntu altogether tbh. It's pozzed as fuck.
>>2607>This. Avoid Ubuntu altogether tbhAnd also avoid
Rolling distros, with non-stop updates they are introducing new features a libraries all the time, therefore, they are a system disaster waiting to happen.
Linus Torvalds used to be a strong role model but the woke commies broke him.
>I am one of those “woke communists”: Linus Torvaldshttps://news.itsfoss.com/linus-torvalds-woke-communists/2018 when the brainwashing begun:
>Linus Torvalds apologizes for years of being a jerk, takes time off to learn empathyhttps://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/09/linus-torvalds-apologizes-for-years-of-being-a-jerk-takes-time-off-to-learn-empathy/>>2669That's the same impression am left with too. They've been writing hit pieces about how his community is too white, and has too many men for so many years. Plus that he's a toxic bigot and that sort of thing. I think he's just tired of everything and doesn't want to get into trouble.
>>2672Look, this shit begun to accelerate when the Linux Foundation let the corporations inside de kernel development because of the money. Attached to that funding came the demands for inclusiveness (homosexuals, women and non-Whites). This year is expected that the kernel, developed in C, allow code developed in Rust. From a technical point of view, Rust is safer code than C, BUT, here comes the commie claws... the Rust Foundation is pushing trademark restrictions and lunatic demands like that any meeting when Rust is portraited has to stick to "sanitary" codes and "no guns allowed into the premises". Yup, the woke lunacy ported from code to IRL, no kidding.
>Rust Foundation IS DOING WHAT????https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gutR_LNoZw0 >>2678Is ridiculous how much shit they stuffed in there for some copyright policy thing. Thanks anon, I wasn't aware of this.
>Look, this shit begun to accelerate when the Linux Foundation let the corporations inside de kernel development because of the money. Attached to that funding came the demands for inclusiveness (homosexuals, women and non-Whites).Yeah, some people have always been wary of that. They should have taken their concerns more seriously. Like, even microsoft is in at this point. FOSS in general needs to learn from this shit.
>>2678>Rust clusterfuckThere is hope. The sane fags forked the language before the commies fuck it still more. The fork is called Crablang and on its the website don't even mention the trademarked word RUST even once. To avoid potential lawsuits I guess.
https://github.com/crablang/crabhttps://crablang.org/ >2014>Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you>If I tell you to think of an open-source project, the first word that probably comes to mind is Linux. Then, if I ask you what open-source actually means, you'd probably say something like: "Open source means everyone is free to use the code, and it's usually developed by lots of independent programmers, who contribute their work freely, to make the world/internet a better place." That's what I thought, too, until I read The Linux Foundation's annual report on the state of the Linux kernel. The report's findings may surprise you. https://www.extremetech.com/computing/175919-who-actually-develops-linux-the-answer-might-surprise-you-----
The cost of open-source software. Is it free? Yes, it is free for you as an end-user. Server and machine time are not free; hosting is not free. The developer’s time is not free. That is why 70-80% of Linux kernel patches are done by commercial companies, and then the kernel went woke.
>>2683AMD and Intel drop a lot of work in because they need the server systems to work on their crap. IBM now owns redhat so you can combine those two pie slices. Valve is a relatively new one to the open source world and is putting a fairly considerable amount of money to developing the linux ecosystem, mostly because they don't want to pay homage to microsoft or sony as a gaming platform. Lots of other "smaller" companies will pay to have certain things fixed in the linux kernel because it affects their niche server-side plugin to [whateverthefuk]
Governments world wide are making it more expensive to live, so of course there is less people working on it "for free".
>>2684Yeah, even microsoft is in on it too. They're also trying to screw up vulkan.
>>2687Monocultures are an issue with design not implementation. Open standards and FOSS means anything can be adapted for anything
Linux is just a kernel, applying the tool analogy, it's like your power drill and dremel using the same battery brand. It has an open adapter, so you could easily switch to a different brand, but it's the best battery around, so why would you? But, if you were to use this other brand with it's proprietary adapter, you'd have to use their batteries forever
Using 50 different proprietary technologies means you're 100% locked in, using only 1 open technology means you're completely free
A backdoor in xz/liblzma tools.Malicious code was discovered in the upstream tarballs of xz, starting with version 5.6.0. Through a series of complex obfuscations, the liblzma build process extracts a prebuilt object file from a disguised test file existing in the source code, which is then used to modify specific functions in the liblzma code. This results in a modified liblzma library that can be used by any software linked against this library, intercepting and modifying the data interaction with this library.
To know if you are vulnerable run in terminal:
xz --versionIf the output says xz (XZ UTils) 5.6.1 or liblzma 5.6.1, then users should either apply the update for their distribution (if available), downgrade xz, or disable ssh for the time being.
>Are You Affected by the Backdoor in XZ Utils?https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities-threats/are-you-affected-by-the-backdoor-in-xz-utils>PyPI halted new users and projects while it fended off supply-chain attackhttps://arstechnica.com/security/2024/03/pypi-halted-new-users-and-projects-while-it-fended-off-supply-chain-attack/>Backdoor found in widely used Linux utility breaks encrypted SSH connectionshttps://arstechnica.com/security/2024/03/backdoor-found-in-widely-used-linux-utility-breaks-encrypted-ssh-connections/And a faggot explaining what's going on:
https://twitter.com/feross/status/1774153518800404494 >>3272It's mostly an issue with patched systemd implementations of these libraries. Distributions that use openrc for example or other unixes such as BSDs are not affected.
>1. Debian patches the sources of everyone's most trusted, most critical daemon – `sshd` – to add support for notifying systemd …>2. which exposes everyone's most trusted, most critical daemon – `sshd` – to an attack surface broadened to nothing less than the entire set of libraries linked by `libsystemd` …>3. which, due to bloat and feature-creep, is vast …>4. and `xz` and `liblzma` just happen to constitute vulnerable libraries within it, those salient today.>It could have been anything else; the wider the attack surface, the more vulnerable everyone is.>Every distribution is now frantically and reactively patching but the real vulnerability persists – systemd, itself – and every news item mentioning it is either bad news or notice of how its feature-creep progresses apace. As long as *that* attack-surface continues to exist on modern Linux, backdoors such as this one will only become easier and more frequent whether they are detected and reported or not.https://forums.theregister.com/post/reply/4837096 >>3273>systemdMay be there is a reason why so many cringe to it.
>>3272Think about it. Microsoft have been contributing to the Linux Kernel for many years... may be we might need a new kernel.
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>>3274It's a feature-creeped and bloated beyond hell project that is unmaintainable. Muh xz is deflection. Do not ever install a distribution that relies on systemd.
>>3275The BSD projects are much better in every aspect, especially OpenBSD
>>3272>A backdoor in xz/liblzma toolsThis a video from 3 years ago and reuploaded 3 months ago.
The guy prophecies exactly what just happened and wonders how many other sleeping backdoors are in the code.
>Jonathan Blow on the Problem with Open Sourcehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGekWFxeD6c >>3278>Do not ever install a distribution that relies on systemdThe awareness is growing fast, even among systemd fanboys.
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/32028 >>1050I recommend dual-booting Windows and GNU/Linux. Windows 10 and Windows 11 have CIAnigger backdoors (which is why they gave the update for free). You could just use Kubuntu or Xubuntu (avoid vanilla Ubuntu because it has Gnome 3) but I recommend that you pick EndeavourOS (or Artix/Void/Gentoo if you know what you are doing). You can test Linux with VirtualBox if you want to (VirtualBox can be used to make virtual machines).
Here is a quick guide:
1. Get a flash drive that can be nuked. The capacity should be 4GB or more.
2. Download the installation iso.
3. (optional but recommended) Download the file checksums (SHA256) and verify the iso using PowersHell:
Get-FileHash Lunix.iso4. Use Windows disk management tools to shrink a partition. This could be your C drive. Press WinLogoKey + x to get a menu where you can open it. Linux needs about 60GB or more.
5. Download Rufus
https://rufus.ie/en/6. Open Rufus. Select your device (your flash drive) and the Linux installation iso (press SELECT button). Click start.
7. (optional but recommended) Make Windows use UTC time internally. This does not change how time is displayed to you.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/System_time#UTC_in_Microsoft_Windows8. Reboot your computer. Press a key to open the UEFI/BIOS boot menu. Usually you need to press one of these keys: F12, F2, Del. The right key depends on your motherboard.
9. Install Linux! aim the installer to the newly reclaimed free space.
>>1096for being antiX
they seem to be using X11 a lot.