/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>>384069
Janny logs block 1:

>#253
Discussion on the rules governing rapidshared content on /co/ and the possibility of updating them.

>#272
About the policy on motivators on /a/.
They are to be deleted and user banned if they persist.

>#281
About deleting unmarked spoilers on /a/.
They are to be deleted even if the series is old.

>#282
A janny is unsure on what should be deleted on /s/. They are bothered by fake tits and female bodybuilders and wonder if they should be allowed.
They are told by a Mod that discussion should improve the board as a whole. Good discussion should be left alone even if the content personally displeases them. The picture should be judged on its own merits.
Another janny then says that they will instantly delete any picture they consider "gross" even if people seem to be enjoying it, and that they believe the board has too much porn on it.
Finally something about "report "misa campo/leah dizon" catchphrases as ban-requests"

>#288
Asking whether they should delete dogs, cats and prinnies from /c/ as they should apparently be posted on /cm/.
Told that animal pictures as well as anything close to furry should be deleted with the exception of catgirls.
A mod asks why anime animals can't be posted on /a/.
People then agree and say anime animals are fine, just no furries or photographs.

>#295
Asking whether fapping to female mech pilots is allowed on /m/.
Another janny says they would rather not see female pilots on /m/. That /m/ is sfw so there should be nothing too revealing and that they can be strict about it being a mech board so at least try to relate it to a mech.

>#307
Another website is flooding /g/. Discussion about what the jannies are doing about it.

>>384069
Janny logs random 1:

>4471
Jannies talking about cooking? I guess if anyone needed proof they aren't robots.
>5147
Surprisingly reasonable discussion of banning gun control posts on /k/. They seem to recognize that it can be on topic.
>5333
Jannies noticing that everything on /a/ and /v/ is political around the 2016 election.
>8289
Jannies celebrating Christmas
>9838
Jannies pondering when and why new boards are created. Ends with the excerpt I posted.

Janny ban control.

>>384079
this is a fake edit of 4plebs

>>384082
It's accurate if you take into consideration the amount of memeflag posts.

>>384069
The Tranny admin's Info

>>384082
you got me heres the real one

For anyone interested in looking up usernames: https://github.com/sherlock-project/sherlock

Bored lately.
So I made this to commemorate the happening.
You're welcome.

>>384084
>Mr.
>Literally just some normal dude
Ironic to call him "Tranny Admin" when the word "Tranny" is an instaban for LGBT discrimination on Soyjak party. You Jaktards are the quintessential projecting faggots.

45 hours without 4chan

>>384117
I checked desuarchive out of curiosity. Every thread that was active when it happened has been dumped to the archive, so if they do bring it back, it's more or less a complete reset.
Guess that's for the best, people were mad at me for this get.

>>384120
>complete reset
like that one time their DB failed and many boards had their catalog wiped?
would be interesting to see first new threads on all boards
I hope /po/ gets something interesting

>>384124
Noooo, you can clean slate /mlp/ and the like, but /po/ is /po/
Every thread there is an old growth coastal redwood, it's ancient

>>384128
Papercraft and Origami?

>>384165
Yeah, every thread there is like 5 years old and new posts happen every other week, they're also the chillest anons around, dudes just wanna do paper stuff
Can't just kill that off and start from scratch

>>384069
Do we know if the hacker is telling the truth about user data?

>>384184
Imagine if /po/ got an altchan. one post per month.

ETA: Few Days

>>384226
I honestly think this is going to kill the site. Anons are getting comfy in their new altchans and when 4chan comes back the cuck timer is going to remind people why those altchans exist in the first place.

>>384226
>a few days
Watch it go down again shortly after. A few days is not enough to fix the internal issues 4chan has.

Something tells me that a lot of staff have quit and no way in hell they're achieving the old staff count when it's still hot news. The few that are remaining will become even worse cunts than before while still doing J-A-C-K-S-H-I-T to counter the shitposting.

rapeape email (real????)
approx 7 hours ago

Hey,

I'm sending this to everyone, just in case there are people who weren't in Discord or IRC, haven't been paying attention to the news, and are completely unaware of the events that have transpired, but are still checking their email. On the afternoon of April 14th, one of our servers was breached. The attacker managed to exfiltrate quite a bit of data before going public with a brief shitposting spree, at which point I became aware of what had happened and shut the servers down. Over the next ~24 hours the hacker released some of the data he had taken.

Relevant to you are that he released mod and janitor usernames, password hashes, email addresses, and the IP address last used to log in. With this information made public, people were able to find additional information from public sources, including major data breaches on other websites, to partially or fully dox some 4chan mods and janitors. Even if you have not been doxxed, please check your email address against https://haveibeenpwned.com/ to see if there may be leaks of data from other websites that may be associated with you.

Unfortunately there's no way for us to take this back and undo the harm that you've suffered due to this hack, but you can take steps to mitigate further harm. I'd recommend that everyone change the password of the email account you used when applying to be a janitor, and any other email accounts you have used thereafter in association with 4chan. You should also add two-factor authentication if at all possible, ideally via an authenticator app, such as Google Authenticator or Authy.

I would also recommend using a password manager of some sort, such that you can use strong passwords easily. Keepass or KeepassXC are good examples, but there are other popular password managers such as Bitwarden, 1Password, or those integrated into popular browsers like Firefox. Generate random passwords of at least 16 characters using upper case, lower case, numbers, and symbols. Do not re-use any passwords. If you had used the password associated with your mod or janitor account elsewhere for some other account(s), you should change that password for those other accounts as soon as you can. We will be doing a forced password reset when the site is back up, and 2FA via an authenticator app will be mandatory for both mods and janitors.

Most IPs are dynamic, but if your IP address is static, you can usually just unplug your modem or router overnight to get a new one. Failing that, you should consider calling your ISP to have it changed. In either case, you should also consider using a VPN such as NordVPN, Surfshark, or Private Internet Access (there are plenty of options here).

A lot of you will want to change your login names, discord names, or email addresses. I will contact each of you individually on Discord to discuss these changes, so please wait until I do so. Much easier keep things organized that way, contacting each person in turn rather than having to get blasted with hundreds of emails or Discord messages of people asking to change info.

As for when the site will be back (and it will be back), "We get there when we get there". Obviously we have a lot of work ahead of us with respect to patching holes and updating software, so please bear with us. Maybe catch up on your backlog, watch some anime, play some vidya, and enjoy this extended break from reports and shitposting.

For those of you who have had personal information exposed, I'm sorry this happened. We had bought new servers a few months ago and were working to transfer 4chan's functionality to them as quickly as we could, but obviously we weren't fast enough, and all of you have suffered due to our failure. I know you've placed your trust in us to keep your personal information safe, and we have let you down. I can't undo what happened, but we're going to do everything we can as fast as we can to secure 4chan's servers and codebase, and get the site back online. All I can do is hope that, despite what you've suffered, that you'll continue to help keep this community alive. There's nothing else quite like it on the internet, and without you, there might never be anything like it ever again.

Regardless of your personal decisions in the coming days and weeks, I want to thank you for all the time and effort you've put in to this website and this community. 4chan's users might not show it openly, but I know they appreciate what you do as well. I think they'll appreciate you even more when 4chan returns, as now they've had time to feel 4chan's absence, and absence makes the heart grow fonder.

Odds are the contents of this email will be posted on Sharty and Kiwifarms shortly after I send it, but I don't much care. If they want to make fun of me for appreciating the 4chan Team, they can go right ahead. I think you are all wonderful and I don't care who knows.

I will be in touch with each of you via Discord in the coming days, but if there's something that can't wait, please reach out.

--GrapeApe

>>384240
What is this, a picture for lyrants?

>>384120
>Every thread that was active when it happened has been dumped to the archive
damn that blows but i suppose i was somewhat naive to assume i could just pick up where i left off like last time the site went down
this time is some real shit
read somewhere someone say it would take a couple weeks for them to get the site back on the rails

>>384242
I haven't spent much time looking into it, but the retards apparently went something like a fucking decade without updating their software. I work in IT and I sausage if events conspire to stop us from deploying updates to our systems within 30 days. I suppose bigger things like OS updates are a bit slower and we wait for the vendor to release the first round of patches or two so that we're not the early adopters, but we always have a fucking plan to get everything updated before end of life.

>>384243
feel like in the coming years after its eventual death rattle more will come out about the mismanagement of the site that has led to catastrophic shit like this
has moot written a book yet? id read it if he ever does

>>384190
Not for certain but you can check to see if your email appears here:

https://haveibeenpwned.com/

>>384254
lol, they did in fact get my burner e-mail

>>384262
That's not necessarily from this hack by the way it's just if you have been ever. If you are on it you should change your passwords and stuff though.

>>384263
Fair. I did a complete overhaul wipe of my accounts a couple months ago, and neither my actual accounts nor my sock puppets have any registry

A bump to say we are still here. Hearing unconfirmed reports of the site being up within the week but we shall see. Now onto day 3 of being down.

I honestly don't even miss it anymore.
It's obvious at this point that the slower boards were just 99% jannies posting to flame bait and gaslight people, and the faster boards were 99% corporate/political shills stifling legitimate discussion and 100% of the time I would have otherwise wasted, taking the bait, on the off chance that I was actually having a legitimate conversation with another human being has now been diverted to things I actually enjoy.

>>384355
Yeah, out of all catalogue on /mlp/ I only give a shit about the dozen of threads and participate in 2-5 at any given week.

>>384254
That would only work if Troy Hunt ends up getting ahold of a leaked database so he can add it to HIBP. So far said database doesn't exist and I doubt the hacker would care about selling it.

>>384355
The main reason that I miss 4chan are the general threads on /vg/. As shitty as the general threads were, they were a hell of a lot of better place to actually discuss a game than plebbit or discord.

>>384254
>>384364
>>384190
It's sort of a moot point. Hackers are not trustworthy actors. We know that a data breach has occurred. It is prudent to assume that any lists of email addresses associated with 4chan have been identified, and that any password that you may have used with 4chan has been compromised. If you re-use that password anywhere, then you should go change it as soon as you can.

>>384381
Sure, it doesn't hurt to be safe regardless.

>>384355
I only miss /tg/ for the generals of the games I liked it and it doesn't look like they moved to any splinter.

>>384401
/vx/ has rpgs here.

>>384381
In general I sincerely believe that if you're not using a password manager in this day and age, you deserve to be hacked anyway. Just download keepass it's that easy

>>384401
>>384403
This. /vx/ is expressly for TTRPGs, (pno-pony) Video games, and /X/ content. It's only been used by a handful of anons for years, so feel free to make yourself comfortable

i refuse to trust digital password managers because it just feels like putting all of your eggs in one basket
all it takes is one one zero day exploit and it's game over
either memorize your passwords or if you absolutely must record them then write them on a sheet of paper and stash it in a safe or some other secured location because paper can't be hacked [yet]

>>384415
The thing is good password managers (for example: keepass = good, lastpass = bad) don't connect to the internet and the only thing that can be "hacked" is the encrypted database file, assuming you sync it between devices and put it in backups and stuff. But the encryption is normally very standard stuff that is almost impossible to get wrong unless you're a moron.

So the only way for the password manager to get exploited is if you get a virus on your computer and it tries to attack the manager. But if that happens it's game over anyway. A keylogger is vastly simpler than a secret 0-day and will slurp up all your passwords just the same.

>>384413
>>384403
I meant with my old homies from /gurpsgen/ and /mtg/ who probably aren't into ponies

>>384415
>>384419
Here's my take for it. For anything TRULY important, such as the passwords for online banking/stock broker/etc, use a unique strong password and record it in duplicate on pen and paper and store them in a secure place like a safe or safe deposit box. It is a hassle storing them this way, but you shouldn't have too many accounts that fall into this category. I think a paper copy should be recorded so that close family can access the assorted banking accounts in the event of your death, or so that you can remember the password in the event that you are injured in a way that impairs your memory.

Furthermore you should have a dedicated computer for interacting with these critical accounts. A simple laptop or something should do. This banking computer should only have essential software installed on it and you should exclusively use it for banking tasks. No games, no recreational web browsing, etc. Just the barebones of what is needed for any interaction between your banking or investment accounts.

Then, on your recreational PC, use a password manager like keepass for everything else.

>>384436
Lines/phrases from poetry are my usual go to. William Barnes is quite good for complex passwords.
https://www.best-poems.net/poem/milken-time-by-william-barnes.html

>>384436
This is correct. No one can hack/datamine a spiral-bound notebook

>>384445
Or just funny lines
>An' there wer Jenny Coom a-gone

>>384443
As insufferable a faggot as XKCD is, he does have a good point on how to generate safe passwords.

>>384455
I send this to my users before I reset their password. Guess how many of them use the example provided?

>>384458
0 because they're lazy bastards who probably changed only one character in their password.

>t. lazy faggot who does the same and relies on 2fa to cove his ass

>>384459
I maintain a strict password policy to prevent that.

>>384458
>>384455
randomwordgenerator is a godsend
it only took me a week working a help desk to learn to NEVER allow end users to make their own passwords without supervision
>Musicallemonparty[random number + symbol]
i may or may not sneak some funny word combinations when I do so though

>>384460
I bet you're one of those sites that have inane password requirements that make it impossible to generate
>password must be at least 8 characters...
>also this long password is invalid it must also be below 64 characters or whatever again for no reason
>you must include a letter, a number, and at least one of these special characters
>but those special characters are invalid for some reason
>yeah have fun setting the custom character set in your generator just for my website!

>>384465
>inane password requirements
Not particularly. Minimum of 8 alphanumeric characters, maximum of 64, 90 day lifespan, MFA is required. Fairly basic stuff, if a user can't create a password longer than 8 characters they'll be given a password. Service accounts have a minimum bit entropy of 128 with additional security measures.

>>384470
He does have a point. Most of those have no relation to how strong a password is. They just make them harder for you to remember.

>>384449
>No one can hack/datamine a spiral-bound notebook
But like anon said, a keylogger can compromise the password as you use it. That's why I think it is critical to have a separate computer dedicated for any kind of online banking that you may partake in. That way you can minimize potential exposure to software vulnerabilities and malware.

>>384472
Hence >>384455
I try to encourage my users to actively understand the technology they are using. Unsurprisingly Accounts and HR are always lacking, which is annoyingly considering they are the most desirable targets.
>>384473
>keylogger can compromise the password as you use it.
I'm surprised people aren't more concerned with microsofts telemetry habits, or the incoming Recall feature.

>>384474
Yes that's what I mean. Numbers and special characters don't faze a computer. They're only a problem for meatbags.

>>384474
>I'm surprised people aren't more concerned with microsofts telemetry habits, or the incoming Recall feature.
People won't care until it, inevitably, blows up on microsoft in some huge way. Right now my banking PC uses windows out of convenience, but I'm probably going to transition to linux in the nearish future for it. My recreational PC is probably going to be stuck using windows 11 due to a mix of software compatibility for windows and my opinion that persisting on OS that is beyond EOL is a greater problem than dealing with 11's warts.

>>384475
>Yes that's what I mean. Numbers and special characters don't faze a computer
Here's the thing. It's not what computers are capable of doing, it's what the hackers instruct the computers to attempt. Including numbers and special characters within the character set used to brute force passwords does increase the amount of effort that a computer needs to check the possible combinations by an appreciable margin. They're usually not trying to hack you in particular. They just want to steal as many accounts as possible as quickly as possible because they're racing two clocks. The first clock is that the user might change their password in response to hearing about the data breach. The second clock is that a third party hacker who also bought a copy of the data from the data breach might hack the passwords first and steal the accounts before he can. A computer might not care about running through all of the permutations of numbers and special characters to brute force a password, but the hacker behind that computer sure fucking does because the expanded character set will slow down his brute forcing relative to the hackers who don't include the special characters. Consequently his more comprehensive cracking attempt is likely to lose the race to compromise the legions of shitty weak passwords.

tl;dr, this is sort of like that saying about encountering a grizzly bear while hiking in a group in the woods. You don't need to outrun the grizzly bear, you just need to outrun the slower people in the group. It's not about making your passwords uncrackable, it's about not being the low hanging fruit. The hackers are all chasing the low hanging fruit because weak passwords are everywhere and it is more profitable to pursue them.

>>384470
>maximum of 64
Why? Even bcrypt takes up to 72. Argon2 and others can take much longer passwords. This is important to allow long passphrases.
>90 day lifespan
Also why? The only way for a user to comply with this is using a password manager, but if they use one they can generate a good enough password that brute forcing it would take 90 millenia, rather than 90 days. The rotation then just forces extra annoyance in having to go through the change procedure. And for anyone not using a manager it just leads to busywork e.g. having an incrementing number at the end of the password they increase every time, giving basically no extra security.

>>384474
>Unsurprisingly Accounts and HR are always lacking
Imho mandating a company-wide cloud password manager is probably a decent compromise. Yes >cloud but it's for a company. For example 1password I've seen used in some pretty security-conscious places. Then you just mandate that 1password is used for logins, and must also be used for password generation, and assuming HR karens are able to follow the most basic of instructions they shouldn't have any more issues with bad passwords.

>>384473
MFA is pretty good against keyloggers honestly. I'm not too worried about any of my accounts I have MFA on.
Hardware (U2F) where possible, but even TOTP makes it vastly harder to hijack even with full keylogger access. (Honestly it'd be easier to bundle the keylogger with a cookie stealer and hijack your session in most cases.)

>>384084
>DOB 2000-09-04
Jesus Christ. Pardon me for oldfagging, but there's something ridiculous about knowing you've been banned by people who were in diapers while you were on 4chan. No wonder the moderation on most boards sucks.

>>384487
hey, at least they're older than the forum

>>384482
If you have a dedicated machine that doesn't connect to the internet in ANY capacity, it's secure to an extent. Stuxnet was a thing after all.
>>384485
That's the limit of domain accounts I've set. I can't expect Josie in Accounts to remember a long sentence, given she can barely hold a casual conversation with her colleagues.
>90 day lifespan
Personally I'd have them change their passwords on the first of every month, but that was deemed as too 'problematic'.
>Adding a number to the end
Not a configured option. No new password can be related to any previously used ones.
>cloud password manager is probably a decent compromise
And I immediately stomped my foot down at that suggestion because it's fucking retarded.
>>384490
That's pretty cheap

>>384485
>MFA is pretty good against keyloggers honestly. I'm not too worried about any of my accounts I have MFA on.
Oh definitely. I didn't cover multi-factor authentication. I hope I didn't come off as inferring that it shouldn't be used. MFA should be used wherever possible. I just think that a standalone banking computer is a prudent extra step to help segregate work and play. I don't think that recreational computers can be assumed to be fully secure. But when it comes to protecting your retirement nest egg, I think that a 2nd computer used exclusively for banking is a reasonable extra safeguard that is more likely to be secure than a recreational computer. Granted nation state level actors probably still have backdoors into everything at a hardware level, but Uncle Sam probably isn't intending to steal your money via password cracking when it is so much easier for him to do that via inflation.

>Also why? The only way for a user to comply with this is using a password manager, but if they use one they can generate a good enough password that brute forcing it would take 90 millenia, rather than 90 days. The rotation then just forces extra annoyance in having to go through the change procedure
The problem is assuming that it will take 90 millenia to crack the password. That may be true today, but that isn't necessarily true for tomorrow. Advancements in mathematics or computational capabilities might identify flaws in the encryption algorithm or vastly improve our ability to perform calculations faster. Password expiration places additional strain on the attacker. Now simply being able to crack the password isn't good enough. They are now on a strict deadline to crack the password before it expires. This makes things more complicated and more expensive for an attacker.

>>384492
>If you have a dedicated machine that doesn't connect to the internet in ANY capacity, it's secure to an extent. Stuxnet was a thing after all.
There is a bit of a power gap between
>I want to protect myself from the Five Eyes
and
>I want to protect my savings account from chinks, jeets, and the infamous hacker 4chan

>>384493
An interesting paper (https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10934298) and news articles (US: https://www.forbes.com/sites/timothypapandreou/2024/12/16/googles-code-cracking-quantum-leap-heres-what-it-mean-for-business/ UK: https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/15/uk_quantum_funding/)
>>384494
>Five Eyes
https://torrentfreak.com/google-cloudflare-cisco-will-poison-dns-to-stop-piracy-block-circumvention-240613/

>>384492
>Personally I'd have them change their passwords on the first of every month, but that was deemed as too 'problematic'.
That completely doesn't answer "why".

>Not a configured option. No new password can be related to any previously used ones.
Assuming you're doing it by storing hashes of related passwords, any metric of "related" you use will be limited in some way and users will find some workaround that does let them use a related one. You cannot possibly pre-empt every possible mutation scheme an annoyed user that's being forced to change his password every three months will come up with.

>And I immediately stomped my foot down at that suggestion because it's fucking retarded.
Elaborate.

>>384493
>The problem is assuming that it will take 90 millenia to crack the password
There are certain realistic limits on computation to where around 200 bits or so of entropy, it starts becoming likely that a universe-sized computer operating at maximum theoretical efficiency would not be able to crack it before heat death. Now this does hinge on the definition of maximum theoretical efficiency but, while I don't remember the exact assumption, it was something pretty ridiculous and I think it's safe to say that we're not getting anywhere close to breaking that limit on a universe-sized computer any time soon.

And another thing is that even if one day it does become possible, it's pretty certain that it won't be within the next 90 days. Unless suddenly google announces Quantum Password Cracker 9000 available for commercial purchase out of fucking nowhere, but if that happens, you can just force a password expiry for all users at that exact point. And up till then, passwords that took 90 millenia to crack last quarter will still take just as much by next quarter, and there's no need to reset.

Besides, quantum computers are not a panacea and it's completely unclear whether they'll ever be useful for more than just a pretty limited set of algorithms. Maybe they will, but theoretical quantum algorithms have been under research for decades (completely independently from the engineering progress, since the algorithms are again purely theoretical) and we still aren't anywhere near any sort of general quantum computing model. So if you really want to be anal, use a quantum resistant hash, which as far as I can tell currently most good hashes basically are. And again, if a new paper comes out called New Quantum Algorithm That Completely Breaks SHA Family Hashes or something, then you a) update your backend to use a different hash and b) force-reset everyone's passwords.
Or just fucking wait because nobody has a working useful quantum computer yet and might not have any for decades. None of this warrants resetting every 90 days.

>>384487
The jannies switched to discord because they couldn't figure out IRC.

>>384502
I always wondered: how do you use Rizon? All I saw was #4chan.
Do you need a password? An IP? I never understood how people used that as a chatroom. I tried, but I never get it.

Watch out for a site being shilled that's called miladychan. It's run by an indian pedophile named Rohit Krishna Okhandiar who currently namefags as @charlottefang77 on twitter. He is a child groomer who previously ran a discord server that targeted underaged girls for self-harm.

>>384529
he looks like a second life character

I fucking knew it. They made it intentionally frustrating and unreliable to pressure you to buy gold accounts.

>>384515
Rizon is an IRC server, one of the few old big ones.
There is a pony IRC server too, irc.canternet.net if I recall.
hexchat is generally the preferred desktop IRC client, but there are probably thousands of others for every platform imaginable.

>>384537
I've never played tbh. Is it still alive?

>>384541
I lied, its irc.canternet.org, best if you use SSL.
canternet is in the list of servers by default, just scroll down, its in alphabetical order, and uses SSL by default.

>>384540
>captchas had a chance to fail even if you typed it in correctly
This has it backwards. When you type the captcha wrong, there's logic that will falsely show "post successful" if cloudflare thinks you're a bot (score < 80) AND you aren't a "known user". Not 100% sure what "known user" means, but it looks to be something like: you first posted >= 1 day ago and you've made >= 3 total posts. Once you've hit those thresholds, or if cloudflare thinks you're not a bot, none of this applies.

>>384502
I remember when the internet became popular in 1995. All the children from my highschool class (ALL if them) were able to use IRC (after being taught how to of course). Apart from a few people like me, none of them were nerds. Just regular people in secondary education (not even top level either). What happened to society that they have become unable to operate a simple program?

>>384543
i don't think itll ever truly die

>>384549
Public education is uninterested in teaching children how to think critically for themselves, communicate effectively, or organize beyond the next meal.
Parents are kept too busy to teach children anything beyond how to wipe their own bum.

>>384546
Known user is probably someone who has a recent 4chan cookie on their device.

>>384564
It's a bit more complicated than that - there are a bunch of different checks in the isUserKnown function. The cookie needs to be at least 1 day old and have 3 posts associated with it, and there are other checks about how recently / how often you've changed IP addresses while keeping the same cookie

>>384573
That last must be how the detective proxy users, since there was a rule for that.

>>384546
Where's the complete source code leak including the captcha? I only have the source code for the main site.

Holy shit I can't believe this place still exists but I'm glad it does, came here via Kiwi Farms.

You guys have probably discussed it ad nauseam but they were running a 15 year old unsupported OS and hadn't updated the code since Moot left, I am shocked this didn't happen sooner and with the source code leak it is 100% gonna happen again when they come back online unless they completely rewrite it or just admit defeat and switch to Tinyboard or something.

I'm astonished by the level of incompetence and stupidity.

>>384579
>I'm astonished by the level of incompetence and stupidity.
Astonished certainly isn't the word I would use...

>>384580
...fair, the only thing they changed since Hiro took over was the captcha and we all saw what unusable shit that was.

Also the janny exodus is supposedly real
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/4chan.37222/post-21146301
I wouldn't stick around either if I was getting doxed for $0

>>384591
funniest thing in that is fact that moderation has been already shown to be full of shit, meaning rules were followed and not followed wantonly and boards turned shit due it. So that reads pretty much "oh nooo, we didn't do shit before this and if people leave, then we would need to do shit and we don't want to do shit, we want things to be as they were". So yeah, no hope there.

Hiro is going through his day like if nothing happened to 4chan. It's fucking funny.

>>384591
Looks like this is actually going to kill 4chan. Wow.

>>384591
I felt like this would happen. Paid shills and jannies won't get paid to do nothing. They will find new jobs.
It's USAID for 4chan spammers. It's going to lead right back to the glowniggers handling these shills.
>>384620
It's for the best. People will regroup. If it does come back it's going to be the new reddit.

Hey anons, I came back to congratulate you all

In the end, /mlpol/ outlived /pol/, it outlived all of 4chan. Congrats guys! mlpol.net is the best bunker after all!

>>384631
>/mlpol/ outlasted /pol/
That's like saying you lost your limbs but are still alive. Thank you anon for the sentiment, but you'll hear no cheers from his end of the gallery

>>384579
>You guys have probably discussed it ad nauseam but they were running a 15 year old unsupported OS
Yeah, it's outrageous. WTF were their admins fucking doing? Just fucking each other in the ass all day? It's bad to be slow on your software updates. It's worse to be slow enough that your software reaches EOL. You can't make it up that you let it stay EOL for a decade and a half.

>>384634
Almost like (((someone))) may have incentivized Hiro to acquire the property and LET it fester,... for over a decade

>>384579
I'm shocked NONE of our anons hacked the site or/and their discord when they had all the reasons to do so. How come it's the sharty schoolboys that did what we should have done years ago?

>>384591
The only people who would be willing to mod on 4chan anymore would be people with agendas. One way or another 4chan is dead.

>>384640
But wait anon, what if they did a rebrand! They could call it 4CHANNEL!

>>384633
What do you mean, anon, mlpol has always been better than /pol/. The later died in 2016

>>384636
Hiro never gave a fuck, 4chan only lived as long as it did thanks to moot

>>384644
Indeed, seemingly you were also there to witness it

>>384634
Makes you wonder how bad it really is with the group running the place.
With a lot of jannies out of work, eventually they'll start talking

>>384640
When you work for free for power, of course you are ruled by the worse.

Dont ask who compiled this, cuz IDFK
Allegedly, its a listing of how many mods have been compromised, by board. Undoubtedly it's downplayed, but this is what I found

Oooh! Instant update!

>>384648
>/mlp/ 0/5
good, don't care about any other board. they can burn.

>>384648
Where did this come from? kiwifarms?

>>384654
I got it from the 4cc discord, where it came from before that?

>>384648
What do you mean by compromised? Full dox?

>>384655
>Where it came from before that?
I guess. Just trying to get an idea of who wrote it.

>>384658
Not for doxing purposes of course, just so we know if it's somebody who actually knows shit or not.

>>384665
Naturally, I'm not standing by the content, just presenting what I saw, sorry for any miscommunication

>>384667
You know what you know. Any info can be valuable.

>>384240
>4chan's users might not show it openly, but I know they appreciate what you do as well
is this nigger really this delusional?
>>384591
p-pls don't go otherwise we can't keep our tight circlejerk together,boohoo
what an absolute faggot,i hope he gets raped by a thousand monkies and then "threatens" the hacker and potentially creating more with that line at the end of the message
oh man

>>384591
>Me and Hiroyuki are working
Yeah, cool fake.

>>384668
>Am lazy faggot
>Wishful thinking
It'd be a shame if someone disseminated all the jannie logs based on "id"

>>384673
>logs based on "id"
Not sure that's possible.

>>384591
How does one even apply to be a mod?

>>384675
They open applications to become a janny ever once in a while but don't know how they new new mods. I assume eventually jannies get promoted.

4cuck is not coming back

>>384702
Too early to say. Alot of dark money could decide that they want it to 'stay'.

>>384702
This just got posted. Also it's fake as fuck. Not his posting style, which is different compared to this one >>384240
The last part is pretty too on the nose.
>WE ARE THE LE LEGION, WE DO NOT LE FORGET

>>384702
>We are coming for you and we will find you
Oh geez is the cyber police going to arrest me? I need to get a dog ASAP!

according to https://wiki.bibanon.org/4chan/History#2025 more files were leaked
won't be surprised if they continue leaking shit for years

>>384707
QT

>>384702
>19 janitors left
you're retarded if you think this will have any affect on it coming back or not

>>384714
Never seen that site before but looks useful. Thanks for posting it.

>>384721
As much as they do it for free, you need people like that to deal with the inevitable spam whenever it does go back up.

>>384718
She picks pears with her mouth and I need to eat those.

>>384725
yeah, but their absence isn't gonna affect whether it comes back or not, there will always be fags who want to pretend they have power there
when the board comes back they'll just open applications again

>>384071
Whats a motivator?

>>384735
I'm not 100% sure but I think it's those old memes like pic related.

What on earth is going on here
https://nitter.poast.org/apoplectic_AF/status/1912947910440100193

>>384578
Does your copy include captcha.php? That's where I found the code above. I haven't looked to see if the actual captcha generator is in there or only the code for handling the results

>>384744
Link doesn't seem to work.

>>384746
Fine on this end. Try https://xcancel.com/apoplectic_AF/status/1912947910440100193

>>384749
Do you mean this in pic related?

>>384750
The entire thread is sketchy.

>>384751
How exactly?

>>384702
Oh dear.
Anyways…
>jeremyclarkson.gif

>>384742
those are called demotivational posters.

>>384760
I know which is why I am not 100% sure.

>>384232
we;re fortunate and have a choice because mlp but for fans of certain topics and generals theres literally no alternative. plus all the alt boards i like got no additional traffick. where the hell are all the vidya and animefags going?

>>384648
>0 doxxed on /tg/
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>384232
I see this comfort more like settling in a friend's house, sure, it's nice for a time, sort of like a vacation being in a home away from home, but when 4chan comes back, everyone's gonna flood back to it

kiwifarms null is live now, could be interesting https://rumble.com/c/madattheinternet/live

Oh I see, niggers wanna pretend we don't fucking exist, with an average of ~1.6k posts/day, etc

>>384750
Remilia collective is the definition of using schizobabble to sound smart. Same rhetoric as Curtis Yarvin, who is the philosophy court Jester of Peter Thiel (CIA glownigger). Curtis also allegedly poisoned his wife so he could fuck a tranny.

Any chance 4chan's coming back soon? I miss it a lot.

>>384888
They are going to have to make a lot of changes. Their source code was leaked and had several vulnerabilities. Jannies are also leaving left and right. This might be it.

>>384888
It will be at least two more weeks.

>>384702
does this mean there's still an imposter on the 4chan team?
after all why would this email get leaked

>>384899
kek

>>384899
Hope its not longer then that.

from the KF 4chan thread:

Searched the thread to see if this has been mentioned. But Graf, admin of Poa.st has considered buying 4chan from hiroshimoot. Going as far as to email him a 1 million dollar offer. (Which is surprising considering the occasional funding issues he has)
Besides this he seems to intend to federate it via ActivityPub. I'm not entirely certain about how scalable the protocol is, but for the volume it seems insane. Much like attempting to buy it in the first place.
edit: adding additional images

>>385041
So would this be good or bad?

>>385048
depends on your opinion about chud side of the FEDiverse

>>385041
>poa.st
Is that glowie? It sounds glowie, I'm bad at keeping track of which meme projects are feds and which are alright.
Federated chan sounds very neat to my /g/ autist ears (I'm hanging out on bitchan right now for example in hopes of finding some other similarly autistic refugees) but it also means 4chan will simply not be the same again. It sounds like he's just doing his own project, and wants to buy the 4chan domain for the heck of it, but not actually to revive 4chan as we know it.
>I would start with only a few boards
We'd have to expect completely different tech, completely different layout, completely different board set and most of all completely different rules. /mlp/ will almost certainly not be one of the starting boards, and there might never be one later, who knows. GR15 would likely not exist anymore, for better or for worse. Who knows what the fuck they're cooking up.

So federated chan sounds autistically pleasing but destroying everything 4chan is and building something completely different in its place definitely does not please my autism in any way.

>>385041
the fuck is that protocol? never head of it

>>385061
https://fediverse.wiki/wiki/Poast
oh lol

>>385061
>the fuck is that protocol? never head of it
eons ago, GNU decided to make a free software clone of Twitter
to make it better than twitter, they made a protocol (OStatus) that allowed different notTwitters to shitpost with one another
later OStatus got replaced with ActivityPub
you might've heard of its popular implementation called "Mastodon"
>>385059
>Is that glowie? It sounds glowie, I'm bad at keeping track of which meme projects are feds and which are alright.
not really glowie, just utterly fucking retarded

>>385063
Retarded in an autistic way or in a bad way?
Basically is it the same ilk as gab for example?

>>385065
>Retarded in an autistic way or in a bad way?
Both
>Basically is it the same ilk as gab for example?
Gab is worse for /g/entoomen and other reasons

>>385041
I hope this doesn't happen, I just want the retarded admins to update their security software and bring 4chan back, 4chan going is one thing, it coming back in an unrecognizable form would be even worse
the /mlp/ containment board helped to keep the fandom alive if you ask me, I don't want to merge back with /co/

>>385041
am I supposed to know this literally who?
how likely is it that they actually offered a million for 4chan of all places?

https://github.com/AlexDev404/4chan-main/blob/main/LICENSE.md
>WTFPL
>desuwa committed 2 days ago
they're actually going to ask /g/ for help kek
>>385145
>the /mlp/ containment board helped to keep the fandom alive if you ask me, I don't want to merge back with /co/
IMO GR15 should change to
>dedicated threads about MLP are only allowed on /mlp/
getting banned for reaction images is retarded
>>385145
unlikely, their shitty instance always cries about lack of funds

>>385048
Bad. As much as we shat on the jannies before, anybody that comes in and acquires 4chan is 100% not going to be okay with people calling others, nigger, faggot, tranny, etc.

>https://p.4chan.org/ is still online
>https://find.4chan.org/ is still online
kek

>>384240
>Most IPs are dynamic, but if your IP address is static, you can usually just unplug your modem or router overnight to get a new one.
Shitty grammar or does he really not understand how DHCP works?

Hot take here but I kinda like this site better. There's no captcha or timer to start posting, you can post webms with sound and it doesn't block you from using a VPN. Also the nature of it being a splinter puts one more layer of barrier to entry to normalfags and low effort posters who wouldn't necessarily know about it even if they knew about 4chan. If this place just had a slightly more active poster base I would probably just stay here forever

>>385226
Lack of knowledge I suspect. Most ISPs have a minimum three day lease for assigned IPs. That being said I got a new router the other week, popped it in expecting to get a new WAN address but no, still the same static address I've had for a few years. So either I'm on a watchlist, or I just lucked out with getting a static address.
>>385229
It's a comfy place. Ponuts, politics and casual racism.

>>385238
https://opnsense.org/
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tuofudun-Firewall-Appliance-N100-Upgraded/dp/B0D89F9C68
>wireguarded to mullvad, 22 minute IP cycles
If GCHQ want my ponut collection, they'll have to either ask nicely or bust down my door.

>>385234
I'm probably going to mangle my terms since it's been a while since I did it, but with my ISP, I need to log into my router's control panel so that I can release my lease. Reconnecting causes the ISP to issue the same ip address again but with a shorter lease. I do that a few times and eventually the lease drops down to an hour. After that if I shut everything down and wait for the lease to expire, I will be assigned a new ip if I connect a different router at that time.

>>385244
Damn Anon, who are you running from?

>>385234
>>385244
I've had fiber internet for years and my IP has not changed once, which basically made 4chan unusable since they track bans on IPs and eventually just ban you forever even if it's just from accumulating minor bans over a long period
I have no idea how I'm supposed to get a new address besides waiting for google fiber and switching to that instead because it's better than what I have anyway
jannies tongue my anus

what's the go to alternative for /t/? was in the middle of dumping stuff when the site went down

>>385229
I need anime and video game discussion, pony alone is not enough for me.

>>385197
I absolutely would be but I am a poor fag who can only fantasize about that.

>>385229
FYI you can just use an AI browser extension to auto-complete captchas for you
if you're a phonefag you deserve to type captchas

>>385511
Leto.

>>385481
Check the archives if you haven't yet. There might be ghost posts directing people to a bunker

>>385511
The captcha is the least of my concerns, it's the 15 minute timer before posting and no VPN that really sucks, especially now that I know how lax the cybersecurity is on that site. Also is there really any reason that we can't have sound on all boards? If the whole file fits into the 6mb limit then I don't see the problem. Having to have a dedicated thread in /wsg/ just to link webms in cross board posts is simply asinine

>>385483
True, I looked over the boards for some of the other splinters that I visit every once in a blue moon. Pretty much all of them have boards that fit the topics but nothing like true /a/ and /v/ and all of their derivatives. I do wonder what everyone on /vg/ is doing right now

>>384633
it's like watching your father and mother pass away /mlp/ and /pol/. things have been declining for years but to see it happen so suddenly is painful. but /mlpol/ lives on, we will be ok.

>>385050
I like the idea of the Fediverse, I don't trust the people involved in it though.

>>385618
Dear God, what would become of the /mlpol/-tan comic now

>>385483
gotchya covered anon,
>>>/a/
>>>/vx/

>>384763
>no home for vidya and anime fags
this. I'm happy mlp has made so many dedicated websites for mlp, mlpol and even equestria daily, fimfiction, and more. but what do you do if your favorite vidya general is gone? discord? where will these refugees go?

>>384763
I've just been using 8chan for vidya but it doesn't really feel the same

>>385229
while this place is great and NHNB is fine, there really feels like there's no traffic here, sure /mlp/ was slow, but when I went to bed and woke up there was a noticeable amount of posts, here and NHNB there's barely any

>>385637
Because 4chan was artificial. Thats not to say there werent genuine anons and genuine anon-posts, but when you DON'T have an adversarial mod/jannie base, this is what you actually get, more or less.

>>385639
Nah this place doesn't get traffic because only old fags know this place even exists.
And that's a good thing. I assume if 4chan is down for a long enough period most anons with wonder to 8chan, if 4chan isn't back up by the end of the month. This place will still be under the radar for most anons.

>>385640
Maybe you're right. Maybe this is the best-case scenario, all considered

>>385640
No, because then all of the old fags will leave for 8chan, because that’s where the posts are. Send everyone you can here

>>385640
I'm a huge newfag and this was the first pony altchan I went to.

>>385640
Knowing the 2017 April Fools joke qualifies you as an oldfag? I guess I've graduated
Also there's no way any Anons with even a slight knowledge of the existence of altchans don't know about this place, half of the ghostposts on desu mentioning them are about here and the other half are about NHNB

>>385643
>never been to 8chan
>try to check it out
>security blocker hates it
yeah, I think I'm just gonna stay on here and on NHNB

>>385640
im a newfag and i found this place from all chans

>>385643
I have so many thoughts on this.
If anons want to chase what's popular, then it doesn't matter if 'here' is popular, they're not welcome, at least until they've checked their attitude.

>>385639
>Because 4chan was artificial
How so?

Spoonfeeding denied, come back when you've read the leaks.

NEXT

You made the statement, and an incredibly vague one at that
The burden of proof rests on you

>>385655
Ask me how many linky threads there are.
Not on about linky in particular, just saying there aren't 12 threads. Its weird, for a pony so "embraced by 4chan"

>>385652
I've been on both ends. When 8chan was a giant I barely used 4chan, having to wade through shit just to get anything meaningful going sucked. But after 8chan was killed by glows the resurrections and all alts since have been barren in comparison after anons lost any faith in anything with 8. I'm not talking about 8moe which was one of the copycats after 8chan->8kun

By the time I was a regular on 4chan again, the /mlpol/ merge happened and I had gotten used to filtering out a lot of the noise and I was there for a lot of the early energy. But over time I visited 4chan more and mlpol less to be involved in whats currently going on 4chan was just faster for getting any info, reaction, discussion. Even though there was a lot of butting heads, it was worth the trade off to make something out of that chaos.

For /mlp/ it meant prompt threads in a spur of the moment like when I was inspired by bootleg ponies that was one of the threads you'd never see on mlpol, generals with lots of content, show discussion, just things to talk about. But now I generally hate that people have stopped trying, coom dominates or mindless crap I feel nothing for. The board was a shadow of what it was, and there's no sign of everyone being on the same page with the bunkers. Like nhnb is the anti-thesis of the freedom that I liked but some people on /mlp/ think it's the better option even permanently.

>>385667
Are you ready? I hope so.

4chan is structured to hijack your dopamine receptors.

>>385672
I mean coomposts are dopamine crack, so it's always been this way, not just 4chan, mlpol is equally 'bad' in this context. The faster posting can be addictive, but so can unspoilered porn jacking off or gooning.

I've been through the gamut of boards being sfw and nsfw, with overbearing puritan mods on some of 8chan's many original boards or the absolute rule breaking shit that won't get deleted on /mlp/ after being reported over and over with obvious bias making everyone hate the board or hate the users for championing one side of the bias or another. And now that there's info that private reasons mods can add notes to ignore reports or strongarm bans it just makes it worse.

>>385640
Even smuglo has nothing at all. Im shocked and dismayed

>>385667
Too many anons want to become the niggers they fight.they are jealous of their gayop jannie bs instead of apalled

>>385624
Nobody from /fg/ or isekai is in there bro. Theres threads from 2019. This boards /a/ is basically /po/

quality > quantity imo
I'd rather have a community of real and genuine anons than endless spam.

>>385679
It's true./a/ is the "too little, too late" effort toward a former staff member's grand scheme. The idea was to TRY to make a pony site receptible to weebs. In the end, he is on to making silly amounts of money and no one cares about anime.

I've only ever used 4chan and /mlp/ and I used it because it was the best place to talk with fan of the show about the show and to find stuff that was created without needing a stupid fucking sign-in and I could call out faggots and niggers for what they were
others might have hated it but I liked the general threads because after the show ended there wasn't enough going on to sustain discussions and it was a good place for fans of specific characters to go to specific threads and show off any green, art or music they made, and the spirit of the fandom was kept alive because of the rewatch streams and the anniversary streams, I don't see us being able to congregate like that if we're scattered to these alts
I don't know when 4chan will be back, but I doubt it'll be gone for long, and when it's back, if it's back to it's normal self, I'm going back to /mlp/, and if it's not back to it's normal self I'm not even sure if I'll stay around here if it won't feel like the fandom with how dead it feels

>>385703
Hit the nail on the head, exactly how I feel too. It just isn't the same here, and it's very lonely.

>>385707
Also, I was in the middle of a discussion about Trixie before the site went down, I really wanted to see to the end of the discussion.

>>385703
Honestly a break from doom scrolling the chans sounds healthy but my life situation prevents me from doing anything productive for 10 moar days

>>385707
>>385708
we'll go back home soon guys, don't worry

>>385652
It's not about "popularity" as an abstract metric, it's about having more stuff to talk about. It's nice when you wake up and most of the threads you were watching have something to reply to. It's less nice when you wake up and most of the threads you were watching have between 0 and 3 replies, and none of them are relevant to any discussions you were involved in so you close the site again and that's the limit of your engagement this time.

Mind you /mlpol/ is actually pretty good right now. It's a decent chunk of the /mlp/ activity and has enough stuff going on to actually self-sustain a bunch of conversations, it's nice. But there's still currently less to talk about than there used to be on /mlp/.
>inb4 it's all artificial mod bait shill bot janny spam!!
Even just taking a couple of generals I was a regular in, which have set up bunkers either here or on nhnb too (and even taking into account both for those who have threads on both), there's some that used to get easily 20-50 posts overnight and that now get 5-10 or less.

>>385727
this
I don't give a shit about popularity, I don't care about schizo rants about how artificial mod spam janny fag whatever shit, I want to be in a place where it feels like discussion happens

>>385729
You dont know that greenmarepussy. He could be a filthy phonezigger

I may be in minority here, however once 4chan goes back I feel like I will try to stick around, I like Anons in here (even if they only post once a day) so I kind of wish to give back to the folks that help me during this harsh time of refuge.

>>385742
oh don't get me wrong, when 4chan does come back I am going back there, but this place is good and I'll definitely check in more regularly

>>385742
>I may be in minority here
not really, I also want to sneedpost here
altchans are fun to use when their admins aren't fucking with its userbase

Let's play a game!
Guess when 4chan is coming back: https://strawpoll.com/kogjRdArNg6

I will forever stand by my sentiments that the mods and literal tranny jannies deserve it.
It didn't cross my mind, but looking back it's surprising how this kind of thing didn't happen sooner.

>>385779
Two more weeks.

>>385742
Definitely this. I honestly even kind of regret not coming here more in the past, this place is cool.
In my defense up till now every time I'd check in every couple of years or so it felt so slow that it really felt like there was nothing to talk about. I guess I'm just not in the right altchan mindset where you visit once every 3-6 months, reply to a bunch of threads, leave, and in half a year come back and check if anyone's replied. It feels odd. To the seasoned altchan browsing anons, how often do you actually get sustained conversations when replying to months-old posts like that? It's just not the same if you're talking into the void and the original anon won't even bother seeing your reply.
Also the lack of a thread watcher meant I'd have to manually check back every few months or keep some tabs permanently open, so in the end even though I tried a couple of times I never bothered to become a regular here.

Hopefully now with at least a few more anons like us sticking around things might remain at least slightly more dynamic. And if Pupper is really working on a thread watcher that'd be very big. But either way I'll make a conscious effort again to try checking in a bit more often regardless.

>>385850
There's no need to apologize anon, it HAS been dead as shit. A chan board is nothing without posters, and for a while now there's been ill enough posters to count on one hand. I'm astonished (and grateful on levels you may never understand unless you attend a con and get some of the free food) we're having this exchange. Greet the world with open arms, as Polites would say

>>385853
Yeah, I getcha.
I sincerely hope that the simple explanation for this is that it was born of an April fool's joke, and that, like myself, many checked it out but ultimately had no reason to make it their second home or anything like that, and so it was left to languish as an obscure altchan and of course inactivity begets inactivity as those who found it interesting but weren't super dedicated to sticking around also began dropping off as activity tapered off.

And if that's true, in turn I equally hope that now, many anons will have significantly stronger and warmer feelings towards the site. You guys took us in during our hour of need and gave us home, warmth, comfiness and poni when we needed it and had nowhere else to find any. I may be getting sappy but I'm sure I couldn't have been the only terminally online anon for whom /mlp/ was their literal online home, and /mlpol/ being here genuinely means a lot to me.

>>385707
I will say though, being able to upload 5 images and videos with sound is really nice, and I will miss that.

>>385742
I may return once in a while. I may not be as /pol/-minded as the common anon, but I enjoy having a place whwere I can dip my toes into politica without seeing BLACKED or obviously paid shills.
If there's an argument, I can see sources. And if it's fake, is ignored. /mlpol/ was always a good fusion, and the fact many came here rather than 8 or u18 means is good for a reason: community and engagement.
I will surely go back to 4, but I'm going to visit this place more often now.

>nearly a week without any news
I mean, it's 4chan of all places so I'm not expecting them to give daily updates on how getting it back is progressing like twitter or reddit would if they went down, plus trying to keep a low profile with how much work they have to do, but at least hearing something would be nice

what the fuck

>>385779
You should not have added two weeks if you wanted real answers

>>386085
Heil Atlas /)
I was reminded of you a lot friend!

>>385861
What shocks me more than anything is how dead smuglo and other /a/s are. Theres nothing happening on these boards. Nobody is going there. Where do i find the thread? I want meat!!!

>>385850
I probably already have (You)s I didn't know about with no thread watcher. RIP.

>>386071
Dude, just let it be. Is fucking Hiromoot. For all we know, he cashed out and dip, leaving the site in bigger flames that before.
Damn, I never thought I said this, but I wish Moot was here to save us all. But for what is good, he probably got brainwashed while working in Jewgle.

>>386127
>For all we know, he cashed out and dip
post yfw we get Moot 3.0