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>>188913
Question: what's the carry limit for a Bone Lurker? Can it carry all of us, including the NPCs, as well as the explosive and machine gun(s) from the crashed plane?
Question: what's the carry limit for a Bone Lurker? Can it carry all of us, including the NPCs, as well as the explosive and machine gun(s) from the crashed plane?
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>>188915
I have this statblock for a Huge sized advanced Bone Lurker, based on the one that the demon made for me from the hydra bones. It doesn't have as much HP as the demon's, but it's as good as Posey could possibly make with her scroll.
>Hone Kujira (advanced Bone Lurker)
>Huge Undead
>Alignment: Neutral Evil***
>Initiative: +3
>AC: 13 (-2 size, -1 Dex, +6 natural), touch 7, flat-footed 14
>Hit Dice: 9d12 (68 HP)
>Fort +3, Ref +3, Will +6
>Speed: 20 ft., fly 30 ft. (poor)
>Space: 5 ft. by 15 ft./15 ft.
>Base Attack +4; Grapple +22
>Attack: slam +12 melee
>Damage: Slam 2d6+15
>Special Attacks/Actions: Constrict 2d6+15, improved grab, paralysis
>Abilities: Str 30, Dex 8, Con -, Int -, Wis 10, Cha 11
>Special Qualities: Immunities, undead traits
>Feats: Improved Initiative
>Skills: -
>Constrict (Ex): Hone Kujira deals 2d6+15 points of damage with a successful grapple check.
>Improved Grab (Ex): If Hone Kujira hits an opponent that is at least one size category smaller than itself with its slam attack, it deals normal damage and attempts to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity (grapple bonus +21). Hone Kujira has the option to conduct the grapple normally, or simply use its body to hold the opponent. Either way, each successful grapple check it makes during successive rounds automatically deals slam damage and constrict damage.
>Paralysis (Ex): Any creature hit by Hone Kujira's slam attack must succeed at a Fortitude save (DC 14) or be paralyzed for 1d6+2 minutes.
>Immunities (Ex): Hone Kujira has cold immunity. Because it lacks flesh or internal organs, it takes only half damage from piercing or slashing weapons.***
>Hone Kujira attacks by dropping onto its prey and wrapping itself around its victim. Dropping down in this fashion is considered a charge attack from higher ground. If Hone Kujira misses its initial attack, it often flies up and tries to drop on the opponent again.
Based on these stats, a light load for it should be 1856 pounds (2784 pounds if it counts as a "quadrupedal" creature). It could carry more than that, but it would not be able to fly while doing so.
I have this statblock for a Huge sized advanced Bone Lurker, based on the one that the demon made for me from the hydra bones. It doesn't have as much HP as the demon's, but it's as good as Posey could possibly make with her scroll.
>Hone Kujira (advanced Bone Lurker)
>Huge Undead
>Alignment: Neutral Evil***
>Initiative: +3
>AC: 13 (-2 size, -1 Dex, +6 natural), touch 7, flat-footed 14
>Hit Dice: 9d12 (68 HP)
>Fort +3, Ref +3, Will +6
>Speed: 20 ft., fly 30 ft. (poor)
>Space: 5 ft. by 15 ft./15 ft.
>Base Attack +4; Grapple +22
>Attack: slam +12 melee
>Damage: Slam 2d6+15
>Special Attacks/Actions: Constrict 2d6+15, improved grab, paralysis
>Abilities: Str 30, Dex 8, Con -, Int -, Wis 10, Cha 11
>Special Qualities: Immunities, undead traits
>Feats: Improved Initiative
>Skills: -
>Constrict (Ex): Hone Kujira deals 2d6+15 points of damage with a successful grapple check.
>Improved Grab (Ex): If Hone Kujira hits an opponent that is at least one size category smaller than itself with its slam attack, it deals normal damage and attempts to start a grapple as a free action without provoking an attack of opportunity (grapple bonus +21). Hone Kujira has the option to conduct the grapple normally, or simply use its body to hold the opponent. Either way, each successful grapple check it makes during successive rounds automatically deals slam damage and constrict damage.
>Paralysis (Ex): Any creature hit by Hone Kujira's slam attack must succeed at a Fortitude save (DC 14) or be paralyzed for 1d6+2 minutes.
>Immunities (Ex): Hone Kujira has cold immunity. Because it lacks flesh or internal organs, it takes only half damage from piercing or slashing weapons.***
>Hone Kujira attacks by dropping onto its prey and wrapping itself around its victim. Dropping down in this fashion is considered a charge attack from higher ground. If Hone Kujira misses its initial attack, it often flies up and tries to drop on the opponent again.
Based on these stats, a light load for it should be 1856 pounds (2784 pounds if it counts as a "quadrupedal" creature). It could carry more than that, but it would not be able to fly while doing so.
>>188916
Flying is pretty important to my plan. We'll see what GM pone thinks. Even if it isn't considered quadrupedal, maybe we can save enough weight through the flying members of the group.
Flying is pretty important to my plan. We'll see what GM pone thinks. Even if it isn't considered quadrupedal, maybe we can save enough weight through the flying members of the group.
>>188919
Oh, okay. While I wait on GM for an answer, I have another couple questions. Is there a limit to how far the Bone Lurker can go from you while still remaining under your control? Like, if you commanded it to do something on the other end of the island, would it still be controlled? A related question to that: do you have to give it commands directly face-to-face, or can you give it commands from a distance through a telepathic-like mind link?
Oh, okay. While I wait on GM for an answer, I have another couple questions. Is there a limit to how far the Bone Lurker can go from you while still remaining under your control? Like, if you commanded it to do something on the other end of the island, would it still be controlled? A related question to that: do you have to give it commands directly face-to-face, or can you give it commands from a distance through a telepathic-like mind link?
>>188920
https://www.d20srd.org/srd/carryingCapacity.htm
For a 30 strength, it appears no less than 1600 for a maximum load, depending on how GM wanted to have encumbrance affect the creature's flying ability. So, while it will be unlikely to cary many/most while carrying the torpedo and the guns, after they've been expended we can probably carry most who can't already fly
https://www.d20srd.org/srd/carryingCapacity.htm
For a 30 strength, it appears no less than 1600 for a maximum load, depending on how GM wanted to have encumbrance affect the creature's flying ability. So, while it will be unlikely to cary many/most while carrying the torpedo and the guns, after they've been expended we can probably carry most who can't already fly
>>188920
Animated Dead remain under their master's control indefinitely, until or unless they are replaced in the HD control limit. There is no limit in time or distance.
There is a near-identical bone lurker in the swamp, made of hydra bones, but the Artaaglith that animated them may have used its ability since then, so it may have become uncontrolled (the Dreads that Posey keeps with her may become uncontrolled at any moment).
>Like, if you commanded it to do something on the other end of the island, would it still be controlled?
Yes, but I would not be able to give it additional orders, or even make it do anything specific on the other side of the island due to lack of intelligence (unlike the ghoul, which is able to carry out precise instructions).
>A related question to that: do you have to give it commands directly face-to-face
Yes.
Commands for undead controlled through the Animate Dead spell are verbal (face-to-face), not telepathic (unlike rebuked undead), so there is a limit to what it can accomplish at a distance. Furthermore, the creature is mindless, and not even of humanoid nature, so only the most simple instructions can be given to it. It could function remotely if it were told to obey the orders or another intelligent creature though (such as how the demon ordered the Dreads to obey Posey, or how Posey ordered the zombie to obey Day Low Rain).
>or can you give it commands from a distance through a telepathic-like mind link?
No. Only rebuked undead are commanded mentally. Posey currently controls an aquatic ghast with her mind, and is using it as a contingent defense against anything that might harm Gloomy in the beach house.
>>188921
It can only fly while carrying a light load.
>A creature with a fly speed can move through the air at the indicated speed if carrying no more than a light load. (Note that medium armor does not necessarily constitute a medium load.)
It could still "run" overland while carrying more than that, but it would not be able to fly.
Worth noting that although I used the ghost whale yokai as a faceclaim, the bone lurker itself isn't necessary a creature of a shape that makes it suitable for multiple creatures to ride it.
>These undead creatures appear as portcullises or gridwork-curtains created from interlaced human and beast bones adorned with sharp bone spurs.
This isn't necessary mount-shaped, but at least a single medium creature should be able to ride it (same reason why goblins are able to use ogres as mounts, because they are two size categories smaller despite the ogre being an unsuitable bipedal shape).
Animated Dead remain under their master's control indefinitely, until or unless they are replaced in the HD control limit. There is no limit in time or distance.
There is a near-identical bone lurker in the swamp, made of hydra bones, but the Artaaglith that animated them may have used its ability since then, so it may have become uncontrolled (the Dreads that Posey keeps with her may become uncontrolled at any moment).
>Like, if you commanded it to do something on the other end of the island, would it still be controlled?
Yes, but I would not be able to give it additional orders, or even make it do anything specific on the other side of the island due to lack of intelligence (unlike the ghoul, which is able to carry out precise instructions).
>A related question to that: do you have to give it commands directly face-to-face
Yes.
Commands for undead controlled through the Animate Dead spell are verbal (face-to-face), not telepathic (unlike rebuked undead), so there is a limit to what it can accomplish at a distance. Furthermore, the creature is mindless, and not even of humanoid nature, so only the most simple instructions can be given to it. It could function remotely if it were told to obey the orders or another intelligent creature though (such as how the demon ordered the Dreads to obey Posey, or how Posey ordered the zombie to obey Day Low Rain).
>or can you give it commands from a distance through a telepathic-like mind link?
No. Only rebuked undead are commanded mentally. Posey currently controls an aquatic ghast with her mind, and is using it as a contingent defense against anything that might harm Gloomy in the beach house.
>>188921
It can only fly while carrying a light load.
>A creature with a fly speed can move through the air at the indicated speed if carrying no more than a light load. (Note that medium armor does not necessarily constitute a medium load.)
It could still "run" overland while carrying more than that, but it would not be able to fly.
Worth noting that although I used the ghost whale yokai as a faceclaim, the bone lurker itself isn't necessary a creature of a shape that makes it suitable for multiple creatures to ride it.
>These undead creatures appear as portcullises or gridwork-curtains created from interlaced human and beast bones adorned with sharp bone spurs.
This isn't necessary mount-shaped, but at least a single medium creature should be able to ride it (same reason why goblins are able to use ogres as mounts, because they are two size categories smaller despite the ogre being an unsuitable bipedal shape).
>>188922
Well it's good that it's Huge then, cuz thats a x4 modifier to all carrying capacities. Assuming 30str to be 500lbs, that puts it right back at 1500lbs
Well it's good that it's Huge then, cuz thats a x4 modifier to all carrying capacities. Assuming 30str to be 500lbs, that puts it right back at 1500lbs
>>188916
I should probably make this with only 8 HD (62 HP). That way I could afford to have a second smaller large-sized one without Day Low Rain being unexpectedly attacked by her sister (I know Posey wouldn't care about a zigger's safety, but I want to eventually reanimate her at her full power so I don't want her corpse to be destroyed). Having a second, non-advanced lurker would help defend Posey while the Huge one focuses on destroying the Traveller's summons.
It would burn up the last of my scroll though. No more necromancy for me until I get to that level... Oh well, any wise Necromancer knows that sacrifices must be made to reach one's true potential.
I should probably make this with only 8 HD (62 HP). That way I could afford to have a second smaller large-sized one without Day Low Rain being unexpectedly attacked by her sister (I know Posey wouldn't care about a zigger's safety, but I want to eventually reanimate her at her full power so I don't want her corpse to be destroyed). Having a second, non-advanced lurker would help defend Posey while the Huge one focuses on destroying the Traveller's summons.
It would burn up the last of my scroll though. No more necromancy for me until I get to that level... Oh well, any wise Necromancer knows that sacrifices must be made to reach one's true potential.
>>188920
If it is flying it doesn’t have the carrying capacity of a quadruped. Anything that flies is limited in carrying capacity relative to the same thing in water or on land.
Also don’t forget that a head was not found for the Devil Whale
If it is flying it doesn’t have the carrying capacity of a quadruped. Anything that flies is limited in carrying capacity relative to the same thing in water or on land.
Also don’t forget that a head was not found for the Devil Whale
>>188929 →
>plan
Whatever do you mean? What "plan" is there to be derived?
In a logistical sense, it makes sense to split the party to try and maximize the available time. But that assumes you're dealing with a self-perpetuating reality as the interface; you aren't. Without assuming to speak for anyone, if I was GM I would not tolerate a splitting of the party. I would wait until the party figured out that this is a group effort.
>plan
Whatever do you mean? What "plan" is there to be derived?
In a logistical sense, it makes sense to split the party to try and maximize the available time. But that assumes you're dealing with a self-perpetuating reality as the interface; you aren't. Without assuming to speak for anyone, if I was GM I would not tolerate a splitting of the party. I would wait until the party figured out that this is a group effort.
>>188928
>Also don’t forget that a head was not found for the Devil Whale
Ah, whups. There goes my aesthetic faceclaim
No problem though. It doesn't need a head.
>Also don’t forget that a head was not found for the Devil Whale
Ah, whups. There goes my aesthetic faceclaim
No problem though. It doesn't need a head.
We're set on the plan to go to the whale bones, right? It's just ten minutes away. Let's just go together to avoid complicating things.
We can discuss the ethics of necromancy later. You guys all know ooc that a mindless bone lurker has no will of its own and has no chance of turning on its master (unless another necromancer casts Command Undead to steal it, or a Cleric twice their level rebukes and commands it). It's also immune to mind affecting attacks, so it cannot be enthralled by the Traveller, unless the Traveller is also proficient in necromancy (which I doubt, because it is apparently unfamiliar with the concept of death).
We've made every possible charisma check and dialogue negotiation with Blackheel. A lot of which is probably unnecessary. Blackheel has every reason to distrust us, but he's also in no situation to refuse. The GRU is not responding to him, so he has no real avenue to sabotage our raid of the Kostroma. As a commissar, he should have enough experience to make a logical decision that raiding alongside us would minimize casualties in his crew. If we leave and bring back the bone lurker, Blackheel will have already made his decision: either to join us in our raid, or to attempt to stop us (in which case, I think we could defeat him).
We can discuss the ethics of necromancy later. You guys all know ooc that a mindless bone lurker has no will of its own and has no chance of turning on its master (unless another necromancer casts Command Undead to steal it, or a Cleric twice their level rebukes and commands it). It's also immune to mind affecting attacks, so it cannot be enthralled by the Traveller, unless the Traveller is also proficient in necromancy (which I doubt, because it is apparently unfamiliar with the concept of death).
We've made every possible charisma check and dialogue negotiation with Blackheel. A lot of which is probably unnecessary. Blackheel has every reason to distrust us, but he's also in no situation to refuse. The GRU is not responding to him, so he has no real avenue to sabotage our raid of the Kostroma. As a commissar, he should have enough experience to make a logical decision that raiding alongside us would minimize casualties in his crew. If we leave and bring back the bone lurker, Blackheel will have already made his decision: either to join us in our raid, or to attempt to stop us (in which case, I think we could defeat him).
I can't imagine that the Leviathan group will need either of the satchel charges, nor do I recall who physically has them, but they were expressly intended for the airship if we are unable to get it running.
>>188967 →
>Why is it that I ask this twice, it’s the only thing I ask, and I’m ignored twice?
I must have missed it, or was so preoccupied trying to convince Blackheel that I forgot to address it.
>Why is it that I ask this twice, it’s the only thing I ask, and I’m ignored twice?
I must have missed it, or was so preoccupied trying to convince Blackheel that I forgot to address it.
>>188975 →
>Now you're willing to discuss a plan?
That's what we've been doing for the past month.
>My priority has always been to find the "marines" (they're not marines, they're aviation sea-ponies)
Mine too, I want to get paid, but I was under the impression that we agreed to destroy the Traveller first.
>As for OOC hooks, I recall GM Pony explicitly saying that if we take on the objectives one at a time we will not be able to get all of them.
Yeah, this complicates things....
Maybe we should focus on the airponies first.
>Now you're willing to discuss a plan?
That's what we've been doing for the past month.
>My priority has always been to find the "marines" (they're not marines, they're aviation sea-ponies)
Mine too, I want to get paid, but I was under the impression that we agreed to destroy the Traveller first.
>As for OOC hooks, I recall GM Pony explicitly saying that if we take on the objectives one at a time we will not be able to get all of them.
Yeah, this complicates things....
Maybe we should focus on the airponies first.
ISTF
>>188976
I might be wrong on this and end up getting fact checks, but I think there's some confusion on the matter. As I recall, GM pone never said anything about us running out of time if we take on the objectives one at a time. I think everyone is conflating that with the statement he did make that if we go after the Traveler before rescuing the airponies, it will result in anywhere from a partial to a total failure of the primary mission.
I might be wrong on this and end up getting fact checks, but I think there's some confusion on the matter. As I recall, GM pone never said anything about us running out of time if we take on the objectives one at a time. I think everyone is conflating that with the statement he did make that if we go after the Traveler before rescuing the airponies, it will result in anywhere from a partial to a total failure of the primary mission.
I just wanna ask, since Posey is talking about Dagon >>188878 , does that mean that Lovercraft mythos are canon in this campaign?
It's not a problem or anything, it just wasn't my impression that this was the lore GM had for his world but I don't know so I just want to have it clear up.
Also, I would like to know the extent of how much we're going Lovecraft in this world if that's the case. Is it just for flavor in regards to Posey's character or did Azathoth spawn this world?
It also struck me that I kinda like Azathoth. Every other higher being in that mythos are always such douches to humanity but Azathoth they fear. So you can't help but root for him. Kinda you're enemy's enemy is your friend and Samson, I take you with me before I die, kinda of thing also temple of Dagon. <-- I experience synchronicity like this, a lot.
It's not a problem or anything, it just wasn't my impression that this was the lore GM had for his world but I don't know so I just want to have it clear up.
Also, I would like to know the extent of how much we're going Lovecraft in this world if that's the case. Is it just for flavor in regards to Posey's character or did Azathoth spawn this world?
It also struck me that I kinda like Azathoth. Every other higher being in that mythos are always such douches to humanity but Azathoth they fear. So you can't help but root for him. Kinda you're enemy's enemy is your friend and Samson, I take you with me before I die, kinda of thing also temple of Dagon. <-- I experience synchronicity like this, a lot.
This needs to be said. There's a big difference between what a player declares to have done and what GM accepts the player as having done. Ask me how I know.
So with respect, unless GM acknowledges or affirms what (you) have posted, unless ratified/accepted by GM, I have no way of knowing whether the action is even accepted.
So while Kira wants to get all angry-face at Brie, she should check with GM to see if it even happened.
And hey, if she was leading the fucking way, we wouldn't be at this impasse would we?
So with respect, unless GM acknowledges or affirms what (you) have posted, unless ratified/accepted by GM, I have no way of knowing whether the action is even accepted.
So while Kira wants to get all angry-face at Brie, she should check with GM to see if it even happened.
And hey, if she was leading the fucking way, we wouldn't be at this impasse would we?
>>188987
It was so long ago that I forgot.
Why did we even bother looking for Blackheel and negotiating with him if we were just going to find the airponies first?
It was so long ago that I forgot.
Why did we even bother looking for Blackheel and negotiating with him if we were just going to find the airponies first?
>>188988
>Posey is talking about Dagon >>188878 , does that mean that Lovercraft mythos are canon in this campaign?
Posey is talking about obscure occultism that she has personally studied, and it does not necessarily have any bearing on the setting, just Posey's beliefs.
For the record, I was referencing the D&D version of Dagon:
the Obyrith lord.
>Posey is talking about Dagon >>188878 , does that mean that Lovercraft mythos are canon in this campaign?
Posey is talking about obscure occultism that she has personally studied, and it does not necessarily have any bearing on the setting, just Posey's beliefs.
For the record, I was referencing the D&D version of Dagon:
the Obyrith lord.
>>188980 →
Dude, you know as well as I do that called shots are not a thing in D&D: you cannot just say "I shoot him in the head".
Dusty has more hitpoints than you: you cannot kill him in one shot, even with your sneak attack, but the rest of us can kill you in one round (particularly Silver or I). The thing you are planning is foolish.
It's also homosexual to hold a PC hostage when their player is not present.
Dude, you know as well as I do that called shots are not a thing in D&D: you cannot just say "I shoot him in the head".
Dusty has more hitpoints than you: you cannot kill him in one shot, even with your sneak attack, but the rest of us can kill you in one round (particularly Silver or I). The thing you are planning is foolish.
It's also homosexual to hold a PC hostage when their player is not present.
Pardon the consecutive posts
It appears that after all these weeks planning and discussing, we are still not sure what to do and what order to do it.
I believe that Dust could help us with this. If he's good aligned, which I think he is, he should be able to spontaneously cast sanctified spells, particularly Path Of The Exalted:
https://dnd.arkalseif.info/spells/book-of-exalted-deeds--52/path-of-the-exalted--40/
>Path of the exalted allows the caster to consult her deity (or an agent of her deity) to help make a difficult decision. This decision is usually more complex than a simple morality question. It may involve strategizing, choosing a particular lead to follow in an investigation, deciding who to help, or other difficult choices.
>The deity or agent simply helps the character examine a known situation from a number of different angles and makes a recommendation about the correct path to take. This spell does not reveal unknown factors, but merely helps the caster analyze known elements. The spell ends when the deity or agent has provided sufficient guidance for the caster to arrive at a decision.
Path Of The Exalted is basically a direct phone-line to Jesus that tells the caster the most favorable the most favorable course of action with the given information: by casting this spell, we would be able basically have the GM tell us exactly what to do in a way that would benefit us the most.
It has a 24 abstinence component vs divination, so it cannot be spammed, but in mult experience playing 3.5e it has been one of my favorite divination spells.
We cannot spend another month debating what direction to walk in, but Cavalier raised an important point about the airponies. Casting this spell can let the GM make the decision for us in a way that we can trust us the most favorable choice, so that we can keep adventuring.
It appears that after all these weeks planning and discussing, we are still not sure what to do and what order to do it.
I believe that Dust could help us with this. If he's good aligned, which I think he is, he should be able to spontaneously cast sanctified spells, particularly Path Of The Exalted:
https://dnd.arkalseif.info/spells/book-of-exalted-deeds--52/path-of-the-exalted--40/
>Path of the exalted allows the caster to consult her deity (or an agent of her deity) to help make a difficult decision. This decision is usually more complex than a simple morality question. It may involve strategizing, choosing a particular lead to follow in an investigation, deciding who to help, or other difficult choices.
>The deity or agent simply helps the character examine a known situation from a number of different angles and makes a recommendation about the correct path to take. This spell does not reveal unknown factors, but merely helps the caster analyze known elements. The spell ends when the deity or agent has provided sufficient guidance for the caster to arrive at a decision.
Path Of The Exalted is basically a direct phone-line to Jesus that tells the caster the most favorable the most favorable course of action with the given information: by casting this spell, we would be able basically have the GM tell us exactly what to do in a way that would benefit us the most.
It has a 24 abstinence component vs divination, so it cannot be spammed, but in mult experience playing 3.5e it has been one of my favorite divination spells.
We cannot spend another month debating what direction to walk in, but Cavalier raised an important point about the airponies. Casting this spell can let the GM make the decision for us in a way that we can trust us the most favorable choice, so that we can keep adventuring.
I just assume the “Brie points a gun at someone” posts to be not-serious, but for the purpose of getting people’s attention.
>>188998
Oh wait, I was mistaken. You only need to be non-evil to spontaneously channel sanctified spells as a Cleric. So Dust should be able to do this, so long as he still has a lvl 3 slot.
Somebody get Dust and tell him to make our final decision for us.
Oh wait, I was mistaken. You only need to be non-evil to spontaneously channel sanctified spells as a Cleric. So Dust should be able to do this, so long as he still has a lvl 3 slot.
Somebody get Dust and tell him to make our final decision for us.
>>188999
You assume that most of Bie's effort-posts are not serious One wonders what it will take for him to be takeb seriously when he posts. E_e
You assume that most of Bie's effort-posts are not serious One wonders what it will take for him to be takeb seriously when he posts. E_e
>>189003
Your posts go ignored because they're ridiculous and often don't make any sense; and they come in the context of all off the tangential ooc posts, posts you immediately delete, and fourth wall breaking you do in the roleplay thread: you are not taken serious because your posts aren't serious 4/5 times.
Your posts go ignored because they're ridiculous and often don't make any sense; and they come in the context of all off the tangential ooc posts, posts you immediately delete, and fourth wall breaking you do in the roleplay thread: you are not taken serious because your posts aren't serious 4/5 times.
>>189008
They make sense if you're paying attention and aren't fixated on leaving autonomous corpses everywhere, or finding every which way to dive up another player's asshole.. It doesn't take much to follow what all I've posted that it does what you have. Oh, let me guess, you'tre gpmms "not kno what that means"
It means:|
You have done everything in your power to upset this game. First by being a liar and an 'innocuous new player uwu', then by deciding you were in a position to fuck whoever-whenever cuz its YOU, and finally by daring to take an "I'm a good boi" stance. What's next?
They make sense if you're paying attention and aren't fixated on leaving autonomous corpses everywhere, or finding every which way to dive up another player's asshole.. It doesn't take much to follow what all I've posted that it does what you have. Oh, let me guess, you'tre gpmms "not kno what that means"
It means:|
You have done everything in your power to upset this game. First by being a liar and an 'innocuous new player uwu', then by deciding you were in a position to fuck whoever-whenever cuz its YOU, and finally by daring to take an "I'm a good boi" stance. What's next?
>>189016
A dispensation of this meandering plot. I don't care anymore, and I doubt you do either. Lets JUST GET ON WITH IT
A dispensation of this meandering plot. I don't care anymore, and I doubt you do either. Lets JUST GET ON WITH IT
>>189019
*sigh*
Agree to disagree. The only character Brie can't one-shot is Posey, with an honorable mention to Kira cuz it technically takes more than one round. And that's cuz you don't like rules, not because he's incapable.
>stop derailing things
[i]Derailing what? The lack of progress for three goddman months? Is that what my occumental shitposts are derailing? Your anger isn't with me, I'm just an easy target.
*sigh*
Agree to disagree. The only character Brie can't one-shot is Posey, with an honorable mention to Kira cuz it technically takes more than one round. And that's cuz you don't like rules, not because he's incapable.
>stop derailing things
[i]Derailing what? The lack of progress for three goddman months? Is that what my occumental shitposts are derailing? Your anger isn't with me, I'm just an easy target.
>>189020
>And that's cuz you don't like rules
Lol, lmao even.
>not because he's incapable
Agree to disagree.
>The lack of progress for three goddman months?
Attacking PCs does not progress the plot; it just removes them (you in particular) from the story.
>Your anger isn't with me
Nobody else threaten to kill a PC.
>>189022
Literally everyone has been participating in the dialogue these past months, except for Dust I guess.
>>189023 →
Way to dodge the question, coward.
I recall you saying "try it!" last year after threatening to kill me, and then refusing to honor the results of the fight you asked for. Is that what you are doing again?
>And that's cuz you don't like rules
Lol, lmao even.
>not because he's incapable
Agree to disagree.
>The lack of progress for three goddman months?
Attacking PCs does not progress the plot; it just removes them (you in particular) from the story.
>Your anger isn't with me
Nobody else threaten to kill a PC.
>>189022
Literally everyone has been participating in the dialogue these past months, except for Dust I guess.
>>189023 →
Way to dodge the question, coward.
I recall you saying "try it!" last year after threatening to kill me, and then refusing to honor the results of the fight you asked for. Is that what you are doing again?
>>189025
You're welcome to disagree, which is why he wins.
>no one else threatens PCs
Clearly I care more about the continuance of the story
>literally everyone muh dialogue
FOR GODDAMN MONTHS
>ur a faget and my mental conception can beat your mental conception
Lol son
You're welcome to disagree, which is why he wins.
>no one else threatens PCs
Clearly I care more about the continuance of the story
>literally everyone muh dialogue
FOR GODDAMN MONTHS
>ur a faget and my mental conception can beat your mental conception
Lol son
>>>189009 →
>"I could kill this whole party if I was bored" so why is this the character you decided top play?
There you go putting words in my mouth again.
I have never claimed this. Dusty could destroy me. Silver could cut me in half. I only mentioned being able to kill Brie in particular, after you threatened to kill me. Rogue vs necromancer is a poor matchup.
It was actually (You) who claimed to be capable of killing the party, which you openly threatened to do before we even started this quest.
>>189026
>which is why he wins
My money is on Silver.
>Clearly I care more about the continuance of the story
Based on the reactions of the GM and the party, it is not appreciated.
>Lol son
It is (You) who started the debate, when you went off on your "I'm gonna plan to kill the whole party!" tirade.
Wouldn't even roll saves vs the ghoul touch when your bragging was tested.
>"I could kill this whole party if I was bored" so why is this the character you decided top play?
There you go putting words in my mouth again.
I have never claimed this. Dusty could destroy me. Silver could cut me in half. I only mentioned being able to kill Brie in particular, after you threatened to kill me. Rogue vs necromancer is a poor matchup.
It was actually (You) who claimed to be capable of killing the party, which you openly threatened to do before we even started this quest.
>>189026
>which is why he wins
My money is on Silver.
>Clearly I care more about the continuance of the story
Based on the reactions of the GM and the party, it is not appreciated.
>Lol son
It is (You) who started the debate, when you went off on your "I'm gonna plan to kill the whole party!" tirade.
Wouldn't even roll saves vs the ghoul touch when your bragging was tested.
>>189027
We're gonna rehash this? Okay.
1. No. This started when you decided that your first move was to co-opt how I played my character with your bullshit charm shit. We'll get to that part.
Yes, this began when you decided you could try to force me or my player to play any which way but how I wanted. It didn't matter the 'effect', all I heard - as a player - was "You're gonna play how I decide, cuz I have all these fancy rules saying you have to."
>putting words in my mouth
Oh, cuz you haven't expressly stated it? Cuz you haven't "OOC" made very specific reference to how Posey with her "dreads" and all could wipe the remainder of the party in a 1v1? Get FUCKED.
>based on reactiond of GM and the party
Both GM and the party can be observed to operate off inconceivable motivating factors. While I acknowledge your ability to get GM to respond to your bullshit, I am learning. Maybe one day, but how you do it seems a compromise of integrity
We're gonna rehash this? Okay.
1. No. This started when you decided that your first move was to co-opt how I played my character with your bullshit charm shit. We'll get to that part.
Yes, this began when you decided you could try to force me or my player to play any which way but how I wanted. It didn't matter the 'effect', all I heard - as a player - was "You're gonna play how I decide, cuz I have all these fancy rules saying you have to."
>putting words in my mouth
Oh, cuz you haven't expressly stated it? Cuz you haven't "OOC" made very specific reference to how Posey with her "dreads" and all could wipe the remainder of the party in a 1v1? Get FUCKED.
>based on reactiond of GM and the party
Both GM and the party can be observed to operate off inconceivable motivating factors. While I acknowledge your ability to get GM to respond to your bullshit, I am learning. Maybe one day, but how you do it seems a compromise of integrity
>>189027
2. Hell to the no-no
>Silver could cut me in half
Is this before or after the damage reduction, regeneration, and all that other bullshit?
>Brie in particular
It would be interesting if you tried given how he's spec'd. You'd probably win, depending on how generous GM was feeling toward (you). It might make for an interesting exhibition, I'm not opposed.
Meanwhile, all MY opposition has been toward the laxidaisical attitude that has been directed toward this game. I'd LIKE to criticize GM for it, but if you look back there's a glaring lack of participation from 'some'
2. Hell to the no-no
>Silver could cut me in half
Is this before or after the damage reduction, regeneration, and all that other bullshit?
>Brie in particular
It would be interesting if you tried given how he's spec'd. You'd probably win, depending on how generous GM was feeling toward (you). It might make for an interesting exhibition, I'm not opposed.
Meanwhile, all MY opposition has been toward the laxidaisical attitude that has been directed toward this game. I'd LIKE to criticize GM for it, but if you look back there's a glaring lack of participation from 'some'
>>189028
>Oh, cuz you haven't expressly stated it?
Point to the post where I said it. I did not say it.
>Cuz you haven't "OOC" made very specific reference to how Posey with her "dreads" and all could wipe the remainder of the party in a 1v1?
I have never, ever said that.
The Dreads are barely stronger than skeletons, btw. The most useful thing about them is the decent fly speed.
>>189029
Silence is a Cleric/Bard spell. I already said Dust could destroy me, in more ways than one.
>>189030
>Is this before or after the damage reduction, regeneration, and all that other bullshit?
After. Silver deals 30-50 damage per round with power attack, and has a magic sword. Unless I incapacitate him with a spell he would probably destroy me.
And I don't have regeneration: undead cannot have regeneration. I have negative energy healing that I can use to touch myself to slowly heal overtime in combat. I get fast healing 1 (one) when I am below half health, from being half vampire.
>It might make for an interesting exhibition, I'm not opposed.
You say that, but I recall you refusing to roll the saving throws against my ghoul touch last time it was tested.
You also didn't answer the question in >>189011 →
>all MY opposition has been toward the laxidaisical attitude that has been directed toward this game. I'd LIKE to criticize GM for it, but if you look back there's a glaring lack of participation from 'some'
I have been doing my best to move the story forward, and so have the others who have been participating in the dialogue.
Everyone is playing the same way that they were playing for the entirety of this game. You only just joined at the start of this quest: you have no business criticizing the other players for not meeting your expectations of pace when they have been playing longer than you, and you are entering their game.
You are not the only one who is frustrated. All the other players are frustrated. We are in a stall that has been reached due to lack of GM availability and communication difficulties. That is how it is. Complaining about it does nothing but annoy everyone involved.
>Oh, cuz you haven't expressly stated it?
Point to the post where I said it. I did not say it.
>Cuz you haven't "OOC" made very specific reference to how Posey with her "dreads" and all could wipe the remainder of the party in a 1v1?
I have never, ever said that.
The Dreads are barely stronger than skeletons, btw. The most useful thing about them is the decent fly speed.
>>189029
Silence is a Cleric/Bard spell. I already said Dust could destroy me, in more ways than one.
>>189030
>Is this before or after the damage reduction, regeneration, and all that other bullshit?
After. Silver deals 30-50 damage per round with power attack, and has a magic sword. Unless I incapacitate him with a spell he would probably destroy me.
And I don't have regeneration: undead cannot have regeneration. I have negative energy healing that I can use to touch myself to slowly heal overtime in combat. I get fast healing 1 (one) when I am below half health, from being half vampire.
>It might make for an interesting exhibition, I'm not opposed.
You say that, but I recall you refusing to roll the saving throws against my ghoul touch last time it was tested.
You also didn't answer the question in >>189011 →
>all MY opposition has been toward the laxidaisical attitude that has been directed toward this game. I'd LIKE to criticize GM for it, but if you look back there's a glaring lack of participation from 'some'
I have been doing my best to move the story forward, and so have the others who have been participating in the dialogue.
Everyone is playing the same way that they were playing for the entirety of this game. You only just joined at the start of this quest: you have no business criticizing the other players for not meeting your expectations of pace when they have been playing longer than you, and you are entering their game.
You are not the only one who is frustrated. All the other players are frustrated. We are in a stall that has been reached due to lack of GM availability and communication difficulties. That is how it is. Complaining about it does nothing but annoy everyone involved.
>>189031
>point to where I said it
that's my point. You've been very good about implying it but not actually saying it.
>the most useful thing about dreads is
when they have guns. Oh, it seems you noticed
And now for the last
>you only just joined
Uhm, when was Brie a character? The beginning? Oh thats right, the beginning.
>point to where I said it
that's my point. You've been very good about implying it but not actually saying it.
>the most useful thing about dreads is
when they have guns. Oh, it seems you noticed
And now for the last
>you only just joined
Uhm, when was Brie a character? The beginning? Oh thats right, the beginning.
>>189032
>You've been very good about implying it
I did not imply it. You inferred it.
>when they have guns
Skeletons can have guns too. Nothing special for characters of this level.
>The beginning?
Six years ago. That doesn't mean it's right for you to complain about how the other players have been operating since then.
>You've been very good about implying it
I did not imply it. You inferred it.
>when they have guns
Skeletons can have guns too. Nothing special for characters of this level.
>The beginning?
Six years ago. That doesn't mean it's right for you to complain about how the other players have been operating since then.
>>189033
>you inferred it
You couldn't have said it more plainly with a billboard, fuckoff
>ignore my firing squad
I will, after I ignore all the other sploits you decided you got because 'muh master'
Cry all you want but Brie is a well-aged cheese. And you are?
>you inferred it
You couldn't have said it more plainly with a billboard, fuckoff
>ignore my firing squad
I will, after I ignore all the other sploits you decided you got because 'muh master'
Cry all you want but Brie is a well-aged cheese. And you are?
<Remember that double nat-20? When the griffon had a gun but Brie laughed and danced, and then planted throwing knives in their eyes?
<Remember - oh it was referenced - the Kerr and Wesley incident. I Forget the name of the politician, something liike 'Stromo'
<Were'nt (you) (in a different character) the one who set the warehouse of fire? Weren't we still frens then?
<Remember - oh it was referenced - the Kerr and Wesley incident. I Forget the name of the politician, something liike 'Stromo'
<Were'nt (you) (in a different character) the one who set the warehouse of fire? Weren't we still frens then?
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>>189034
Idk what your point is now. I am satisfied with my character so far and I look forward to her progression, and I do not subscribe to your persistent yet futile attempts to inappropriately characterize my intentions.
Idk what your point is now. I am satisfied with my character so far and I look forward to her progression, and I do not subscribe to your persistent yet futile attempts to inappropriately characterize my intentions.
Sorry for not posting in here lately. I had totally forgotten this place exists. It would have saved us some arguing if I had participated more. The campaign thread felt dead but I see this place has been lively.
>>188885
I back this wholeheartedly.
>>188913
Good to know.
>>188923
Assuming each character is about 200 lbs (not counting gear), that's only seven characters. Enough for the party, but not for the entourage we've accumulated.
Let's not be nasty to each other though.
>>188885
I back this wholeheartedly.
>>188913
Good to know.
>>188923
Assuming each character is about 200 lbs (not counting gear), that's only seven characters. Enough for the party, but not for the entourage we've accumulated.
Let's not be nasty to each other though.
>>188996
Okay, I see. That makes sense.^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aurTTwvwF0I
15:20
>current fight
Guys, let's not fight, then clear up with GM and the party whatever is putting the game on hold. Everything has been said before. Let's just move on. I'm back and want to play so, let's just do this.
What about this, in lol if you afk too much they will send you a message that reads like this, "Blah blah blah, you're afking causes isssues. Do you agree. Type I agree." Maybe, we can do something similar but you don't type, "I agree" though.
We all want to play. We don't really wanna fight. Let's calm down and focus on solving whatever issue there is that's putting the game's progression on hold. Let's keep the peace for the sake of the game. Is that not what you guys want?
Maybe this comes off as condescending, ignorant, and dismissive of whatever issue there is that's causing these problems, however I just want to try to salvage this game since I care about it. ^^
Okay, I see. That makes sense.^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aurTTwvwF0I
15:20
>current fight
Guys, let's not fight, then clear up with GM and the party whatever is putting the game on hold. Everything has been said before. Let's just move on. I'm back and want to play so, let's just do this.
What about this, in lol if you afk too much they will send you a message that reads like this, "Blah blah blah, you're afking causes isssues. Do you agree. Type I agree." Maybe, we can do something similar but you don't type, "I agree" though.
We all want to play. We don't really wanna fight. Let's calm down and focus on solving whatever issue there is that's putting the game's progression on hold. Let's keep the peace for the sake of the game. Is that not what you guys want?
Maybe this comes off as condescending, ignorant, and dismissive of whatever issue there is that's causing these problems, however I just want to try to salvage this game since I care about it. ^^
>>189044
Thank you for the good spirits Sven, but currently the problem is that some players haven't been paying enough attention to know that their concerns have been already addressed, but are insisting that they be addressed.
It's otherwise an exercise in futility, and is a testament about how it's taken almost 6 months to advance the story by a single afternoon.
Thank you for the good spirits Sven, but currently the problem is that some players haven't been paying enough attention to know that their concerns have been already addressed, but are insisting that they be addressed.
It's otherwise an exercise in futility, and is a testament about how it's taken almost 6 months to advance the story by a single afternoon.
>>189045
>the problem is that some players haven't been paying enough attention to know that their concerns have been already addressed, but are insisting that they be addressed.
What problem? Which players? What concerns addresses?
You are the only one who says this is a problem.
>the problem is that some players haven't been paying enough attention to know that their concerns have been already addressed, but are insisting that they be addressed.
What problem? Which players? What concerns addresses?
You are the only one who says this is a problem.
>>189046
Cavaliere was objecting to a lack of decisive rendesvoux in spite of a specified rendesvoux. Silver has weird objections as well.
Cavaliere was objecting to a lack of decisive rendesvoux in spite of a specified rendesvoux. Silver has weird objections as well.
>>189047
Cavalier was objecting because he thought the airponies should take priority,given the hint that they might die if we delay our rescue, which is a valid assertion.
Cavalier was objecting because he thought the airponies should take priority,given the hint that they might die if we delay our rescue, which is a valid assertion.
>>189049
You don't need to prep it. You can cast it spontaneously, just like a cure spell.
Please cast it to ask horse Jesus what we should do, what direction we should move in, and in what order.
Ask if we should get the Marines first or take on the Traveller first.
You don't need to prep it. You can cast it spontaneously, just like a cure spell.
Please cast it to ask horse Jesus what we should do, what direction we should move in, and in what order.
Ask if we should get the Marines first or take on the Traveller first.
>>188988
Dagon is the Babylonian fish god. Dagon is first referenced in the Lovecraft short story titled, well, Dagon, wherein a merchant mariner encounters a set of fish people worshipping at a stone altar with reliefs showing a figure that the protagonist later compares to the fish god "Dagon." The name "Dagon" is used again in Shadow Over Innsmouth wherein the inhabitants of Innsmouth worship at a modified Masonic temple belonging to "The Esoteric Order of Dagon," though this is not elaborated upon. It's pretty clear in both stories that "Dagon" refers to the elder god Cthulhu, and especially the worship of him by the Deep Ones.
What Posey said is... basically that. I kind of wanted to have Blackheel object to the characterization because posey seems very intent on demystifying and sucking the fun out of everything in the universe by trying to explain everything and put it into some kind of category, but... I didn't really feel like it.
>>188996
>Obyrith
I have no idea what that is
>>189003
Make an actually serious suggestion. I argued with a Scotsman over the weekend that school shootings are mostly acts by psychopaths seeking attention, so I think you can guess my position.
>>189012
>fuck whoever-whenever
Not everyone is a prude
>>189031
>The Dreads are barely stronger than skeletons, btw
This is bullshit and you know it
>Silver would probably destroy me
UwU
>>189044
Let me just finish that big post i started a month ago...
And also we may be able to put Dark Star and Virgin together finally
Dagon is the Babylonian fish god. Dagon is first referenced in the Lovecraft short story titled, well, Dagon, wherein a merchant mariner encounters a set of fish people worshipping at a stone altar with reliefs showing a figure that the protagonist later compares to the fish god "Dagon." The name "Dagon" is used again in Shadow Over Innsmouth wherein the inhabitants of Innsmouth worship at a modified Masonic temple belonging to "The Esoteric Order of Dagon," though this is not elaborated upon. It's pretty clear in both stories that "Dagon" refers to the elder god Cthulhu, and especially the worship of him by the Deep Ones.
What Posey said is... basically that. I kind of wanted to have Blackheel object to the characterization because posey seems very intent on demystifying and sucking the fun out of everything in the universe by trying to explain everything and put it into some kind of category, but... I didn't really feel like it.
>>188996
>Obyrith
I have no idea what that is
>>189003
Make an actually serious suggestion. I argued with a Scotsman over the weekend that school shootings are mostly acts by psychopaths seeking attention, so I think you can guess my position.
>>189012
>fuck whoever-whenever
Not everyone is a prude
>>189031
>The Dreads are barely stronger than skeletons, btw
This is bullshit and you know it
>Silver would probably destroy me
UwU
>>189044
Let me just finish that big post i started a month ago...
And also we may be able to put Dark Star and Virgin together finally
>>189051
>>189055
After rescuing the griffons, the party moved to the old village in the center of the island. On the way they encountered "petrushkas" or pony soldier puppets of the "Fellow Traveler" and some of its summons. We took the ponies there prisoner and rescued what was left of the holdouts in the old village. After some delays, we found an old airplane that crashed on the island some time ago, with an armed torpedo and machine guns that we decided to salvage. This airplane also housed a couple of the escapees from the Kostroma including a research assistant I think her name is Lightning Dust. Very close by is the most experienced group of escapees, led by Black Heel the ship's commissar.
Cavaliere and Brie have just finished acquiring the torpedo warhead and one machine gun. We've been deliberating on what exactly to do. I and Silver want to focus on rescuing the New Mareland sailors on the airship, our main objective, without bringing the communists or griffons there. Posey wants to reanimate a dead whale to help us on the quest, and is comfortable with the risk of going alone to make that trip. Brie is less willing to split the party, which is understandable because we were ambushed last time we split.
>>189055
After rescuing the griffons, the party moved to the old village in the center of the island. On the way they encountered "petrushkas" or pony soldier puppets of the "Fellow Traveler" and some of its summons. We took the ponies there prisoner and rescued what was left of the holdouts in the old village. After some delays, we found an old airplane that crashed on the island some time ago, with an armed torpedo and machine guns that we decided to salvage. This airplane also housed a couple of the escapees from the Kostroma including a research assistant I think her name is Lightning Dust. Very close by is the most experienced group of escapees, led by Black Heel the ship's commissar.
Cavaliere and Brie have just finished acquiring the torpedo warhead and one machine gun. We've been deliberating on what exactly to do. I and Silver want to focus on rescuing the New Mareland sailors on the airship, our main objective, without bringing the communists or griffons there. Posey wants to reanimate a dead whale to help us on the quest, and is comfortable with the risk of going alone to make that trip. Brie is less willing to split the party, which is understandable because we were ambushed last time we split.
Fucking IDs
>>189056
This is a VERY serious point.
What am I to do when you don't take my legitimate and VERY serious posts a non serious?
Are you deciding what I can an can't do in game? Do I have any agency beyond what you decide 'is serious'?
>>189056
This is a VERY serious point.
What am I to do when you don't take my legitimate and VERY serious posts a non serious?
Are you deciding what I can an can't do in game? Do I have any agency beyond what you decide 'is serious'?
Okay, I phrased that funny, but the point is plain; i have at regular interval made VERY serious declarations about what I wanted Brie to do and your response was dismissive and ambivalent.
What am I as a player to do when you as a GM are going to line-item veto anything I legitimately try to do because you decide what I posted 'isn't serious'? Have you ever asked for a clarification or an elaboration? Have you at ANY point sought: 'Hmmm, this player seems to be trying to do something, perhaps this is something I should integrate' before dismissing my genuine attempts to engage the story/plot that you have portrayed.
The fuck do you want? If there's a "right" way you "want" this game to be played, fucking say so, but don't act all upset and put-upon when you blatantly ignore a player for months and they get an attitude.
What am I as a player to do when you as a GM are going to line-item veto anything I legitimately try to do because you decide what I posted 'isn't serious'? Have you ever asked for a clarification or an elaboration? Have you at ANY point sought: 'Hmmm, this player seems to be trying to do something, perhaps this is something I should integrate' before dismissing my genuine attempts to engage the story/plot that you have portrayed.
The fuck do you want? If there's a "right" way you "want" this game to be played, fucking say so, but don't act all upset and put-upon when you blatantly ignore a player for months and they get an attitude.
>>189056
>posey seems very intent on demystifying and sucking the fun out of everything in the universe by trying to explain everything and put it into some kind of category,
That wasn't my intention at all.
Maybe Rosey Ring comes off that way because she is an occultist with great knowledge of magic and religion, despite not being a very spiritual pony herself. She thinks of mystic occultism as a path to power.
>I have no idea what that is
Obyrith are the elder race of demons: creatures of pure primordial madness. Unlike the Tan'ari, who were created from and relation to mortal sin and fear, the Obyrith are primordial demons far older than mortal life, and their chaos and evil is abstract as it is cosmically horrifying. They supposedly created the Abyss after invading the multiverse from an abstract world, possibly the far reaches of the far realm, and have an aberrant aesthetic.
Dragon in D&D is one of the original Obyrith lords, and acts as a wiseman and advisor to Demogorgon. He is an ancient and alien creature of the demonic seas in the abyss. He advised the aboleths on the method of turning humans into skum (fish people), much like he did in the lovecraft story, and he also taught Demogorgon the art of creating new monsters.
>This is bullshit and you know it
GM, if you do not want me to have the Dreads, you can just have them fly away: as soon as the Demon that creates them uses Animate Dead again, which it can do every day, the Dreads would become uncontrolled.
>UwU
OwO
>>189058
See, I was intent on going to find the airponies first, but then I felt that GM communicated really wanted us to go look for Blackheel, so we ended up doing that.
>I and Silver want to focus on rescuing the New Mareland sailors on the airship, our main objective, without bringing the communists or griffons there.
I agree, actually. I just thought we were being steered towards doing the Kostroma side quest with Blackheel.
>Posey wants to reanimate a dead whale to help us on the quest, and is comfortable with the risk of going alone to make that trip.
Posey only wants to use the whale bones as a weapon against the Traveller. If we are not fighting the Traveller, the whale bones are unnecessary.
>>189064
Your experience isn't only your own. Thing is, although players are supposed to have agency, the story doesn't move forward without the GM narrating it.
I have at several instances expressed intent to walk off in an particular direction, but I cannot arrive at that destination until the GM describes the scene.
>posey seems very intent on demystifying and sucking the fun out of everything in the universe by trying to explain everything and put it into some kind of category,
That wasn't my intention at all.
Maybe Rosey Ring comes off that way because she is an occultist with great knowledge of magic and religion, despite not being a very spiritual pony herself. She thinks of mystic occultism as a path to power.
>I have no idea what that is
Obyrith are the elder race of demons: creatures of pure primordial madness. Unlike the Tan'ari, who were created from and relation to mortal sin and fear, the Obyrith are primordial demons far older than mortal life, and their chaos and evil is abstract as it is cosmically horrifying. They supposedly created the Abyss after invading the multiverse from an abstract world, possibly the far reaches of the far realm, and have an aberrant aesthetic.
Dragon in D&D is one of the original Obyrith lords, and acts as a wiseman and advisor to Demogorgon. He is an ancient and alien creature of the demonic seas in the abyss. He advised the aboleths on the method of turning humans into skum (fish people), much like he did in the lovecraft story, and he also taught Demogorgon the art of creating new monsters.
>This is bullshit and you know it
GM, if you do not want me to have the Dreads, you can just have them fly away: as soon as the Demon that creates them uses Animate Dead again, which it can do every day, the Dreads would become uncontrolled.
>UwU
OwO
>>189058
See, I was intent on going to find the airponies first, but then I felt that GM communicated really wanted us to go look for Blackheel, so we ended up doing that.
>I and Silver want to focus on rescuing the New Mareland sailors on the airship, our main objective, without bringing the communists or griffons there.
I agree, actually. I just thought we were being steered towards doing the Kostroma side quest with Blackheel.
>Posey wants to reanimate a dead whale to help us on the quest, and is comfortable with the risk of going alone to make that trip.
Posey only wants to use the whale bones as a weapon against the Traveller. If we are not fighting the Traveller, the whale bones are unnecessary.
>>189064
Your experience isn't only your own. Thing is, although players are supposed to have agency, the story doesn't move forward without the GM narrating it.
I have at several instances expressed intent to walk off in an particular direction, but I cannot arrive at that destination until the GM describes the scene.
>>189063
>>189063
>>189064
I will respond and move the events forward when the group agrees to a course of action. I will not respond to declared actions that are wholly individual, and or stupid, or designed to derail everything. "My character walks away without any kind of communication device or regard for anyone else," or "my character places a gun to a different player character's head for no evident reason" are not actions that actually have any value moving the plot forward and are not going to be entertained by me, at least until everyone else agrees "Yes, let's do this"
Describe an action that makes more sense in context than R Kelly in that one episode of South Park, singing "I'mma pull out my gun, I'mma shoot some one"
>>189063
>>189064
I will respond and move the events forward when the group agrees to a course of action. I will not respond to declared actions that are wholly individual, and or stupid, or designed to derail everything. "My character walks away without any kind of communication device or regard for anyone else," or "my character places a gun to a different player character's head for no evident reason" are not actions that actually have any value moving the plot forward and are not going to be entertained by me, at least until everyone else agrees "Yes, let's do this"
Describe an action that makes more sense in context than R Kelly in that one episode of South Park, singing "I'mma pull out my gun, I'mma shoot some one"
>>189066
Maybe we should have a formalized vote tally or delegate decisions to one character without discussion, in order to advance the story without taking weeks or months to decide.
I say we should just do whatever Silver says we should do next. We made him the decisionist at the beginning of the quest, iirc. Silver is wanting to find the airponies, right? Let's just do that.
Kira and Cavalier, please roll survival checks to help us track down the airponies so we can move the story forward.
I hold doubts that the world will actually end soon if we delay fighting the Traveller, so let's go for the airponies, since we don't get paid unless we find them.
For all we know, finding the airponies might even lead us to the Traveller anyway.
Maybe we should have a formalized vote tally or delegate decisions to one character without discussion, in order to advance the story without taking weeks or months to decide.
I say we should just do whatever Silver says we should do next. We made him the decisionist at the beginning of the quest, iirc. Silver is wanting to find the airponies, right? Let's just do that.
Kira and Cavalier, please roll survival checks to help us track down the airponies so we can move the story forward.
I hold doubts that the world will actually end soon if we delay fighting the Traveller, so let's go for the airponies, since we don't get paid unless we find them.
For all we know, finding the airponies might even lead us to the Traveller anyway.
I also proposed casting Path Of The Exalted, if Dust is interested in giving a way for the GM to point is to the most optimal path.
>>189067
>We made him the decisionist at the beginning of the quest
Shoal Waters insisted that we 'designate' a 'leader', and Silver was so designated, yes. Having said, on Brie's part that was just a "going along to go along" sort of "yes yes, stfu and tell us more" sort of gesture. Make no mistakes about where Brie's allegiances lie.
>>189068
This. I know SOME get all butt-bothered by the idea of railroading, but I'm ALL for it.
>We made him the decisionist at the beginning of the quest
Shoal Waters insisted that we 'designate' a 'leader', and Silver was so designated, yes. Having said, on Brie's part that was just a "going along to go along" sort of "yes yes, stfu and tell us more" sort of gesture. Make no mistakes about where Brie's allegiances lie.
>>189068
This. I know SOME get all butt-bothered by the idea of railroading, but I'm ALL for it.
>>189064
Nobody blames you for being upset but GM Pony is also in a bind. If some of your actions are allowed to go through, especially the threats, this mission might become impossible and be thrown into chaos. Maybe that should be allowed to happen, but if it does our characters (and to some extent us as players) may blame Brie for that happening. Call it a sunk cost fallacy if you will, but with the cumulative amount of time we've put into this single quest it would be upsetting to lose it because one player wanted to reenact Dirty Harry. I hope after this Brie gets a quest where he can let his wilder side loose.
>>189065
>I agree, actually. I just thought we were being steered towards doing the Kostroma side quest with Blackheel.
>Posey only wants to use the whale bones as a weapon against the Traveller. If we are not fighting the Traveller, the whale bones are unnecessary.
I think this "side quest" has to come after we save what's left of the airponies. It would be a good way to cap off this island adventure at any rate. I think the whale bones would be helpful, just as the machine gun and bomb we've collected might be. Also, collecting the airponies would give us time to make a proper plan of attack on the Kostroma.
>>189067
>Kira and Cavalier, please roll survival checks to help us track down the airponies so we can move the story forward.
Okay
Nobody blames you for being upset but GM Pony is also in a bind. If some of your actions are allowed to go through, especially the threats, this mission might become impossible and be thrown into chaos. Maybe that should be allowed to happen, but if it does our characters (and to some extent us as players) may blame Brie for that happening. Call it a sunk cost fallacy if you will, but with the cumulative amount of time we've put into this single quest it would be upsetting to lose it because one player wanted to reenact Dirty Harry. I hope after this Brie gets a quest where he can let his wilder side loose.
>>189065
>I agree, actually. I just thought we were being steered towards doing the Kostroma side quest with Blackheel.
>Posey only wants to use the whale bones as a weapon against the Traveller. If we are not fighting the Traveller, the whale bones are unnecessary.
I think this "side quest" has to come after we save what's left of the airponies. It would be a good way to cap off this island adventure at any rate. I think the whale bones would be helpful, just as the machine gun and bomb we've collected might be. Also, collecting the airponies would give us time to make a proper plan of attack on the Kostroma.
>>189067
>Kira and Cavalier, please roll survival checks to help us track down the airponies so we can move the story forward.
Okay
The post I made where Silver explained his plan was probably missed by at least a couple people here, so, it's probably worth explaining again:
We first go to the whale bones, where Posey can do her thing and raise the Bone Lurker. Then Posey, Garv, and the griffons will take one of our radios and the Bone Lurker to the plane and get it to carry the explosive and guns. The rest of us will make our way towards the airship. The plane group will rejoin us along our route to the airship since you'll be flying and be able to travel faster than us on hoof. Make sure to stick to the south side of the central hill to avoid the GRU that will be coming from the north.
We first go to the whale bones, where Posey can do her thing and raise the Bone Lurker. Then Posey, Garv, and the griffons will take one of our radios and the Bone Lurker to the plane and get it to carry the explosive and guns. The rest of us will make our way towards the airship. The plane group will rejoin us along our route to the airship since you'll be flying and be able to travel faster than us on hoof. Make sure to stick to the south side of the central hill to avoid the GRU that will be coming from the north.
>>189085
That sounds good, except the communists in the party should come with us and not to the airship. Also, when you blow up the equipment at the airship we might expect sudden company.
That sounds good, except the communists in the party should come with us and not to the airship. Also, when you blow up the equipment at the airship we might expect sudden company.
>>189089
Most of the commies can't fly, though. You all would also rejoin us before we got to the airship, anyways. The idea is to minimize the amount of time we take on our objectives while not taking unnecessary risks by fully splitting up.
Most of the commies can't fly, though. You all would also rejoin us before we got to the airship, anyways. The idea is to minimize the amount of time we take on our objectives while not taking unnecessary risks by fully splitting up.
>>189090
Let's not bring the communists to the highly classified airship we're supposed to destroy, for their sake as well as for the sake of the mission. As it is, if we bring them back to New Mareland they will probably be detained and released under close supervision only if they are lucky. If they see the airship and its technology they will probably be 'disappeared.'
Let's not bring the communists to the highly classified airship we're supposed to destroy, for their sake as well as for the sake of the mission. As it is, if we bring them back to New Mareland they will probably be detained and released under close supervision only if they are lucky. If they see the airship and its technology they will probably be 'disappeared.'
>>189091
They're sailors, soldiers, and scientists. None of them are aeronautical engineers, and they wouldn't even know that the airship has better propulsion technology than Stalliongrad does. And even if they did, they wouldn't have the ability to know why and how much less explain it to someone else.
All of this is besides the greater issue of what do they do if they don't come with us to the airship. The only other option would be them continuing on to the other group of commies at the modern village, and that risks them getting attacked without any of us to help.
>>189092
He said already that they're coming with us.
They're sailors, soldiers, and scientists. None of them are aeronautical engineers, and they wouldn't even know that the airship has better propulsion technology than Stalliongrad does. And even if they did, they wouldn't have the ability to know why and how much less explain it to someone else.
All of this is besides the greater issue of what do they do if they don't come with us to the airship. The only other option would be them continuing on to the other group of commies at the modern village, and that risks them getting attacked without any of us to help.
>>189092
He said already that they're coming with us.
So, we know whAt we're doing? Let's do it.
>>189094
Very well. But expect them to ask questions, and the military back home to be less than gracious.
Very well. But expect them to ask questions, and the military back home to be less than gracious.
Is Dust going to cast the Deus Ex Machina spell, or not? We need to come to a conclusion.
I don't care what we do next so long as we do something.
I don't care what we do next so long as we do something.
>>189110
I would, but I don't think I'm gonna get anything useful from it. Brie stormed off and as far as I know he was the only one in disagreement. But I also don't know what's going on
I would, but I don't think I'm gonna get anything useful from it. Brie stormed off and as far as I know he was the only one in disagreement. But I also don't know what's going on
>>189137
Dude, just do it. There's far more to 'Brie storming off' (which he did, with cause, because y'all are fucking worthless) than just discontent with you idiots. I have a change in priorities and am confident I will have addressed them far before you idiots get your shit together and get to both the marines and the airship, let alone the Kostromo.
Now is not the time to be waifish
Dude, just do it. There's far more to 'Brie storming off' (which he did, with cause, because y'all are fucking worthless) than just discontent with you idiots. I have a change in priorities and am confident I will have addressed them far before you idiots get your shit together and get to both the marines and the airship, let alone the Kostromo.
Now is not the time to be waifish
>>189137
>I don't think I'm gonna get anything useful from it
Casting Path Of The Exalted guarantees that the next decision we make is the best one with the best outcome. It is a spell so powerful that it has an abstinence component to keep it from being spammed constantly.
>I don't think I'm gonna get anything useful from it
Casting Path Of The Exalted guarantees that the next decision we make is the best one with the best outcome. It is a spell so powerful that it has an abstinence component to keep it from being spammed constantly.
>>189138
>>189139
>>189140
>>189141
Okay, I'll be blunt. I talked to GM cause I was gonna cast it and bost results in the same post. He ain't givin me shit. So I can blow a level 3 spell slot to be told it's our decision, or we can just go with whatever suicide ritual the group has come up with currently. Whatever delays my agony the most.
>>189139
>>189140
>>189141
Okay, I'll be blunt. I talked to GM cause I was gonna cast it and bost results in the same post. He ain't givin me shit. So I can blow a level 3 spell slot to be told it's our decision, or we can just go with whatever suicide ritual the group has come up with currently. Whatever delays my agony the most.
>>189142
Oh. Well, it still stands to reason that he may want you to commit to something - anything - before he gives you anything, (even hints and foreshadowing) but it could also be a dead end. A 3rd level spell slot seems a small price to pay to get a better idea of where GM's head is at, however distinct to Dust's magic.
No, not planning to make a habit of interjection, but don't kid yourself that I'm in the background
Oh. Well, it still stands to reason that he may want you to commit to something - anything - before he gives you anything, (even hints and foreshadowing) but it could also be a dead end. A 3rd level spell slot seems a small price to pay to get a better idea of where GM's head is at, however distinct to Dust's magic.
No, not planning to make a habit of interjection, but don't kid yourself that I'm in the background
>>189142
>He ain't givin me shit.
As in, he's prohibiting the spell? Or just not giving the answer?
Well, that sucks.
>whatever suicide ritual the group has come up with currently. Whatever delays my agony the most.
Oh ffs
Let's just all go track the airponies. All of us together.
In fact, until otherwise decided, we can leave all plans to fight the Traveller on hold until after we find the airponies. I'm considering leaving it to the army to kill that thing.
>He ain't givin me shit.
As in, he's prohibiting the spell? Or just not giving the answer?
Well, that sucks.
>whatever suicide ritual the group has come up with currently. Whatever delays my agony the most.
Oh ffs
Let's just all go track the airponies. All of us together.
In fact, until otherwise decided, we can leave all plans to fight the Traveller on hold until after we find the airponies. I'm considering leaving it to the army to kill that thing.
Think of it this way: we don't even really need to fight the Traveller, or at least not now.
If the Traveller enthralls all of the communists, it will either be destroyed by the GRU, or it will enthrall them too.
If it enthralls the GRU, it will likely go looking for more thralls. With no familiarity of this realm, it will likely draw from the memories of its thralls, which will lead it back to Stalliongrad.
Then the GRU will carry it back to Stalliongrad, and it will proceed to destroy their society and turn them all into its cattle, but that's not our problem.
The alien-controlled communists might become a threat to the world, but that's a problem for another level. We can exterminate the enthrall communists after we defeat Chrysalis or whatever.
Point being is that we don't need to worry about fighting it now. For all we care, we don't even really have to fight it, so the plan to recover the airponies should take absolute priority. No more dilly dallying. Let's just do what we came to do.
If the Traveller enthralls all of the communists, it will either be destroyed by the GRU, or it will enthrall them too.
If it enthralls the GRU, it will likely go looking for more thralls. With no familiarity of this realm, it will likely draw from the memories of its thralls, which will lead it back to Stalliongrad.
Then the GRU will carry it back to Stalliongrad, and it will proceed to destroy their society and turn them all into its cattle, but that's not our problem.
The alien-controlled communists might become a threat to the world, but that's a problem for another level. We can exterminate the enthrall communists after we defeat Chrysalis or whatever.
Point being is that we don't need to worry about fighting it now. For all we care, we don't even really have to fight it, so the plan to recover the airponies should take absolute priority. No more dilly dallying. Let's just do what we came to do.
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