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Mixed Nuts - 'THAT' Pen and Paper RPG Thread
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13314
13316
Quick Rundown:
This(these) thread(s) started as an experimental attempt to determine whether a D&D type game could be possible over an anonymous imageboard. The results have exceeded my wildest expectations. During the week, these threads consist of game meta discussion, shitposting, bants, and more shitposting. On the weekend its on, and its something far more intense than standard pen and paper; I'm still trying to figure out all the aspects and elements.
New players are welcome at any time, and with that let me tie up the previous questions.
>>13269
Nevermind that, I was trying to help you get the unicorn right away, but its gone now.
>>13270 →
First off, you're BOTH wrong. Its an Archmage, but no one outside the Archmage knows that so spoilers.
>>13279 →
>>13282 →
Just because a race or species is listed as 'Outsider' doesn't mean they cannot migrate to other planes/realms.
>inb4 Trump says something about going back or w/e
Additionally, these factions (there are many, above/beyond the ants) have been written into the story, have been there the whole time. The ants were part of all previous 'boots' of the story, and have had successful and beneficial relations with several iterations of the active party.
The travel ban on outsiders limits those who's home is/remains any of the outer planes from entering willfully OR being summoned from interally.
Meaning, it is impossible to summon foreign ants from their home plane, but one can readily interact with ants 'from' this plane.
>13285
>13286
The scroll will come up in the future, its relevance has to do with a particular location which will be obvious after inspection. As for the potato, I'm sure he will never be heard from again. Ever.

And with that, the Game continues.
752 replies and 60 files omitted.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13316
13319
>>13314
>it's gone now
What?
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13317
Spoilered

Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13319
13320 13327
>>13316
The opportunity, yes. Its gone now, you'll have to deal with the dwarf if you want the unicorn.
Mrs. Sentry
+Bs2P
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No.13320
mindfuck_by_2dchew.jpg
>>13319
So, I've been book-flipping to consider her level, when I wondered, is it even possible for Tracy to class as Wilder when already having the Chaotic Mind feat? The feat itself excludes power manifestation (haven't tried manifesting any yet, so no damage, sort-of..).
Mrs. Sentry
+Bs2P
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No.13321
13322
Who exactly is Ben again?
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13322
13323
>>13321
Ben runs the jewelry shop
Mrs. Sentry
+Bs2P
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No.13323
13324
>>13322
Ah.
Why'd he need Ponimaru to deliver messages for him?
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13324
13325
>>13323
Because its part of the contract he agreed to. Ben's business contract is currently Thez' only way of communicating with the party, and if you think you're taking the Terrascue AND Kefka down without her, wew. Just, wew.
Mrs. Sentry
+Bs2P
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No.13325
13328
>>13324
Ah.. So, the contract allows Thez to communicate with this plane then, with Ben as the middleman.
Mrs. Sentry
+Bs2P
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No.13326
13328
I need to stop beginning posts with "Ah". It's even more retarded than stuttering irl.
UILY4
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No.13327
13328
>>13319
But it's his unicorn. How am I supposed to take someone else's property except through dealing with the owner? I already tried to take her by civil asset forfeiture and confiscation for customs violations, and you shot that down.
\r
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13328
13330
>>13325
The contract allows them to exchange cross-planar business materials, supplies, and resources. This is made incredibly difficult because time in Hell moves MUCH faster than the Game in the passage of time, but much slower than the Game in the actual procession of days, weeks, months, etc. It is for this reason that a year in Hell feels like an eternity, because it is experienced as such even though it takes place in a chronologically short amount of time.
>>13326
Well, you could've adopted the habit of beginning your sentences with 'well', so quit ur bitchin.
>>13327
Yes, because it was jewish cuz you would have appropriated her for your own use
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13329
Pssst, mainboard rape
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13330
13331 13332
>>13328
>something something legal confiscation is Jewish
Uh, yeah? When police departments and district attorney's offices confiscate goods they sell them and keep the money
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13331
13334
>>13330
I'm not sure how to respond. When you word it that way, it seems as though you are making my point of me.
Mrs. Sentry
+Bs2P
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No.13332
>>13330
>When police departments and district attorney's offices confiscate goods they sell them and keep the money
When they do that, they're being pretty fucking Jewish.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13334
13336
>>13331
I'm not understanding you. Trumpaladin wants to acquire x that is in the possession and presumably ownership of party y. He can't rob and murder party y because of character alignment restrictions. That leaves a number of means to that end
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13336
13338
>>13334
Yes. "I want that. I should take it from him cuz reasons and then take it for myself." That's textbook jewish.
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13337
Football
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13338
13339
>>13336
Have you ever bought anything for personal use ever? By your logic, if you answered yes, then you are a Jew
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13339
13340 13342
>>13338
No, because I have paid through labor to acquire the means, and I've always given fair and agreed value of time from it. I've only used credit cards this past year, so I can state that previous inequivocally. Xp
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13340
13343
>>13339
What is Trump proposed to offer Korak in exchange for getting his shit jacked, other than a new guy to kill?
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13342
13344
>>13339
Then why did you say "the opportunity is gone, now you have to deal with the dwarf" as if to imply there was any other way to take possession except through business contract, if the only valid means is business contract?
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13343
>>13341
Because fuck you, that's why
>>13340
I don't understand your question. Are you talking about when Tourcil took the elves?
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13344
13346
>>13342
Because he wants to kill you now, there is no bartering or trading or whatever with him.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13346
13348
>>13344
The game left off with Trumpaladin just having made a deal to resurrect all Pirates Tourcil murdered in exchange for the unicorn, and with the Pirates all invited to a football game
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13348
13349
>>13346
Yes, and that deal was made before Korak would return to the ship and find the elves gone. Now, he's pissed because he's been had.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13349
13350
>>13348
He hasn't reached the ship yet in the game
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13350
13351
>>13349
No, but that's where he's going next.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13351
13352 13353
>>13350
Then it's not a forgone conclusion. Let the arch-negotiator do his thing
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13352
>>13351
Then you might want to put all of your skill points into diplomacy, because he's gonna' be mad...
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13353
13356
>>13351
I look forward to it. I've already thought of two possible scenarios in which no one has to die (though there will be beatings)
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13355
>>13354 →
>he's gonna be mad
I promise he won't be the only one
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13356
13357 13361
>>13353
I'm more worried about being forced to compensate for the lost items.
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13357
13358
>>13356
He really should ask the pony if she brought anything back with her.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13358
13359
>>13357
Brought back from what?
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13359
13360 13364
>>13358
From the jew hoard. She did mention it IIRC.
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13360
13362
>>13359
I said she pocketed just whatever looked most interesting that she could carry with her (so I guess the most valuable-looking coins and some gems).
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13361
13369
>>13356
>compensate for the lost items.
You mean the slaves?
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13362
13363
>>13360
Yes, and there was nothing interesting. Tracy could however use this opportunity to reveal the side-pocket of the quiver if she wanted to improve relations with Trump
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13363
13366
>>13362
Maybe, but I'm still salty about that GET. Assests will be pooled only after the wedding ceremony is completed. Until then, they'll just sit in her bag and be spent on pretty-much nothing, because she doesn't really into materialism.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13364
>>13359
Trumpaladin assumed that if Tracy had taken anything, she would have produced it to him to prove that she found the hoard at all. If he finds out she had coins or whatever and didn't mention it, he'd assume she was secreting it away, which he's in a far too optimistic mood to even speculate about.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13366
13367
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>>13363
>Tracy has no reason at all to violate Trumpaladin's trust and do the one thing he very specifically asked her repeatedly not to do, she just does it irrationally and without cause
This post makes me sad...
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13367
13369
>>13366
>expecting a yandere relationship without secrets
She'll surprise you with it after the wedding ceremony. Until then, your respective properties are under separate domains.
Anonymous
mf8Eb
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No.13369
13370
>>13361
>You mean the slaves
I think that no character, not even Tourcil and Trollestia, knows that the elves were intended to be sold as chattel slaves. Inferius, Trumpaladin, and Tracy don't even know that they were carrying elves. Only Trollestia and Tourcil know that the elves have been removed from the ship - not even the pirates know this. I am not sure anyone at all knows how many elves were removed. When Korak tells Trumpaladin that some of his cargo is missing, Trumpaladin is going to have to take Korak's word for it, with regards to the fact of it being taken, what was taken, how much was taken, when, and how valuable

>>13367
He specifically requested that she disclose all findings. It's even in the agreement concerning the child
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13370
13371 13372
>>13369
>He specifically requested that she disclose all findings.
During the talks with the Dwarf, she said "I have assets." (didn't say how much, because she didn't count it yet). That was conveniently just a bit before to Trumpaladin put his hand over her mouth to stop her from speaking anymore.
As for the Jew-gold. She already declared that.
>not even Tourcil and Trollestia, knows that the elves were intended to be sold as chattel slaves.
They had shackles on and were being stowed in the cargo hold, m8. It was pretty clear they were slaves. Trollestia could also speak to them, and it she understood they were being held captive against their will.
Regardless, the situation is that Korak is going to return to his ship, find out that his cargo is missing, and then that's when things will go down in the next session.
UILY4
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No.13371
13373
>>13370
>I have assets
That refers to, well, assets that are hers.
>mentioned the Jew gold
She mentioned that the she found the location of the Jew gold. Taking a portion of the Jew hold into her personal possession and never declaring it (or waiting until a "wedding") is a specific circumstance anticipated by trump when he asked her to help find it and when he made the agreement not to take the child.
\r
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13372
>>13370
>the slaves
GM said no one knew it was as chattel, but if Tourcil and Trollestia infer (if trollestia talked to them it didn't happen in game play) that they are slaves, then that's their little secret
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13373
13374 13378
>>13371
>Taking a portion
I said she took a few coins and/or some gems if they looked interesting, as in for the sake of bringing back proof, not taking a large portion for herself to do whatever (what would she do with just a few coins anyway?)
>assets that are [i]hers[i].
Thez's intentions may have been ambiguous when she gave her the quiver, but Tracy already would've considered it and its to be a replacement for her knife cozy.

Anyway, just focus on your own character's knowledge until that point in The Game comes up.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13374
13377
>>13373
>as if for the purpose of proving the find
Legit question, why did she not produce it when she said she made the find? Was she waiting for him to ask?
>the quiver
The quiver is Tracy's. It's none of Trumaladin's business.

I am focusing on my character knowledge, damn it! Right now, he's under the assumption that everyone can get everything they want, and he can in fact have two scoops.
Anonymous
NDJq0
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No.13375
13376 13377
>Torc made the dwarf mad
This should become...
Intresting
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13376
13385
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>>13375
I'm imagining a few possible outcomes, most of which are far worse than they need to be
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13377
13379 13385
>>13374
>why did she not
Short story: I was lazy.
In hindsight, a few coins don't make for much proof anyway.
>>13375
Next session is going to be fun especially since I didn't get to kill anything last time.
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13378
13381
>>13373
I was being deliberately ambiguous. Giving you her quiver was a very calculated decision which was pushed earlier in the fight than I had intended because Tracy was already unarmed. It was intended to be a replacement knife cozy, and the side pocket is a bag of holding the size of a broom closet. You had mentioned the efficient quiver or whatever it is (Elohna or w/e) and that's essentially what Thez' is, except more suited to brutal murder.
It was known through limited empathic 'dialogue' between Troll and the slaves that they WERE slaves, so her response is entirely accurate. The removal of the slaves was a given as soon as Torcuil summoned her. What isn't known is the state that an angry troll would leave the below-deck of a slave ship in, but it was intended to cause massive butt devastation.
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13379
13382
>>13377
But you did, you defeated 5 gibberling clusters
UILY4
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No.13381
>>13378
I know this is the kind of thing that really would be settled in gameplay, but did all of the Pirates who were conscious leave the ship and go to Trumpaladin?

Also, since the trip from the building to the ship has got to be at least one quarter mile, maybe more, do I get several free actions?
\r
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13382
13383
>>13379
I just remembered that after typing.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13383
13384
>>13382
>doesn't even remember killing what sounds like a large number of things
Does nothing sate you?
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13384
>>13383
My bloodlust knows no bounds.
Anonymous
NDJq0
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No.13385
13386
>>13377
I've got a meme up my sleve since "omae wa mou shindeiru" didn't work, so fun is accurate
>>13376
One is killing the dwarf
That would fix our problem

Anonymous
SKXd0
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No.13386
13391
>>13385
>killing a guy who would be a powerful ally to have in combat against the archmage or other battles, who has a powerful small army we could call on, who is well liked by everyone in the town, who could procure for us rare things from far away, and who knows much about our enemies
No. Just no. That should not be your first thought

>omae wa
I'm guessing that's either some sort of Celtic or some sort of weeaboo
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13388
13389 13396
GM, what to the additive modifiers on a Monster's skill list entail? As in, when using a monster's natural skill that says "Concentration +25", does that really entail a +25 addition to the roll for the Concentration check ( i assume it doesn't, but what does it do?)?
Also, after counting her skulls, Tracy moves over to the library and looks at the atlases on local geography, in an attempt to garner information on the Emperor's city. (it's not actually him I have to kill before i can get the assassin class,
is it? He seems like the final boss, almost.)

Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13389
13390
>>13388
There's a page full of modifiers. It's something like a 10 or 11 breaks even, les is negative, and higher is a few points added

I think Tracy would start where she left off, which is in Trumpaladin's arms as he walks with the Pirates towards the docks. But noted for when there is time later

I knew you were full of shit when you said you were not trying to take him for your assassin class
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13390
13392
>>13389
>as he walks with the Pirates towards the docks.
Weren't they all at the tower?
I didn't believe it, but I felt it was implied. I was just wondering who the "Emperor" in question was for the quest.
Anonymous
NDJq0
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No.13391
13394
>>13386
It's weeaboo, but fun fact: I have never actually watched anime. But cletic could be good to use
And he's also a slaver, keeps dropping hints about wanting to steal Trump's wife, and who know what else
Besides, pirates don't have a reputation for being honest.
His first mate could be a completely different story though.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13392
13393
>>13390
They were all outside of an apartment which would have been inside of a newly constructed tower building in Port Barry, presumably located next to the main plaza. It's not going to be a full 58 story building because there is no steel and I'm not sure if I can get away with mule-powered elevators, but it's still much taller than any building previously existing in Port Barry. Trump left to go with the Pirates to their ship after he made the deal, so he could help execute the transaction and talk them into converting to Football/whatever other arrangements are necessary to get them into being reliable allies. He picks up Tracy and carries her so he can be she isn't off doing something that would mess everything up *cough* Tourcil cough *cough*, so he could have an ally should the Pirates try to fight him, and frankly because poor Tracy being left alone was just kind of a sad sight. So they should be walking now just outside the apartment building.

Actually you're right, it's an entirely different guy that Thez mentioned in some letter. Just if you go kill this guy, be sure to tell your Flashy so he can send in an army to complete the job of spreading freedom and democracy
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13393
13395
>>13392
I'm not about to give you all the details for anything.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13394
>>13391
>slaver
Eh, no one is perfect. But we can talk him into different industries. You know, if given a chance to talk out these problems.
>wants to steal Trump's wife
Trump doesn't have a wife in this dimension, and he stopped doing legal marriages after getting a criminal conviction for bigamy in his past life. But I'm sure that if he did, she'd be so desirable everyone would want to steal her. But wife stealing from a professional and notorious waifu thief is not so easy.
>pirates are not so honest
It was established that he and the Pirates could be trusted so long as it was in their best interest to do something. They want glory and good reputation, they love and carry about Port Barry, they like wenches, they don't want to die and know we can kill them, they want the arch-Mage dead, they took interest in the Broncos, and they stand to benefit from the economy being successful. So really, there's an extremely high amount of overlap between their interests and the group's, besides the fact that they can be bribed and threatened. Their behavior is frankly more predictable than certian party members, and in a way more trust worthy.
>first mate
He might be better. He might be a total dick. What we do know is that Korak was willing to offer his ship as support in attacking the arch-mage, and was willing to provide a large amount of information about our enemies. He was also willing to back down after having his ship robbed and his men murdered. But thank you for mentioning the first mate, I'll think about recruiting him.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13395
13397
>>13393
Marriage requires trust, little pony.
>details
I'm just going to say that he had weapons of mass destruction regardless. All you need to tell me is when and where.

Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13396
13400
>>13388
>concentration +25
That's precisely what it means. This is why it is necessary that players dole out their skill points, so I can give them more than a 10 in stealth, for example. A saving throw or skill check is influenced by the relevant attribute (ex: dex for tumbling or the following), the character's skill rank (20 or w/e) and other miscellaneous modifiers from items, spells, or w/e. A 15'th level rogue can only have a max rank of 15 toward an attempt to set a trap. With a decent dex he would probably get a +2. This means that on a 20 die-roll he could make a DC 17 trap. That means that another rogue needs a 17 or better on their spot check, and roll a DC 17 on their disarm check, also with modifiers applied.
I've been almost entirely nerfing the skills system so far.
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13397
13398 13443
>>13395
>All you need to tell me is when and where.
That'd be beside the point.
>marriage requires trust
Then stop dragging your feet and get ready to finish the ceremony, you deadbeat.
UILY4
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No.13398
13402 13439
>>13397
Think about this. Do you want this freedom mission to go down more like after killing Ghadaffi in Libya and no troops were sent in, or like Iraq where there was a proper occupation alongside killing the dictator? Except of course minus the pulling out part. Because as Tracy should know, Trumpaladin does not pull out.
\r
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13400
13401
>>13396
I was hoping to allocate my characters skill points and levels when I finally got the class I wanted... I guess I could (with some help) if it'll make the game smoother though.
>tfw your super-saiyan form is still boss as fuck though
Would she have time to craft some potions at this point? I was looking for Potion of Rage.
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13401
13405 13408
>>13400
No potions. You can hold off applying some skill points, but you use stealth alot. Without applying points toward it, rogues like Korak can see you without rolling just by skill points.
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13402
13404 13407
>>13398
Act like you're assuming my character has Good intentions/alignment. I don't even know who the target is, so the rough draft intention is "Kill this guy because he's a faggot and make a scene out of it people hate him, but mostly just because I want to and need to release all of this pent-up edge before I explode, and I kind of want to try the stunt that Thez suggested."
Please to asking me to clarify character motives. It's spoiling the fun.
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13403
Stealth is especially important to classify because its 2 checks in one; first one has to initially hide, then they have to move silently to maintain stealth. When moving they are beaten by listen checks, and when stationary they are beaten only by search checks.
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13404
>>13402
you act like*
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13405
13406
>>13401
Is it too late to give-up on Wilder?
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13406
13408
>>13405
To give up on? No. I'll say the chain control is part of the nightmare-ism if you're worried.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13407
13409
>>13402
Oh I don't care about intentions or whatever, I just want newly opened power vacuums to be communicated to my character in time to take advantage of the situation
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13408
13409
>>13406
Good, That makes things easier (psi powers are complicated anyway).
>>13401
Does she have time to add an armor-plate around her abdomen?
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13409
13410 13412
>>13407
I'll say this much. If I suggest a course of action, consider it an intuitive thought that if gone along with might trigger a cinematic progress that will most probably result in a peaceful and beneficial exchange. I won't tell players anything more that "perhaps if", or "You should consider" or something along those lines.
>>13408
I would think a chest-plate would be less encumbering. Also to the earlier bone/skull question, it occurs to me that such materials would totally fit with the nightmare motif, as well as Tracy's character in general. Yeah, you can have an armor thing. You'll need it.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13410
13411
>>13409
Oh I was talking to "Mrs. Sentry," who wanted to start a party in some foreign land without inviting her Flashy. He said something about "stop asking for motives," and I was trying to explain "I don't care why you are killing this guy, just please give me a heads up so I can try to influence the new management"
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13411
>>13410
Gotcha. I threw in the bit about courses of action just cuz I was reminded. Trump and Tracy are the ones most involved in advancing the story, so that was an fyi.
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13412
13413 13415 13440
Also, Infernius attaining meta-psionics without changing classes confused me: how does acquisition of abilities work in this game? Can meta-magic/psionic abilities really just be attained through study? I'd just like some insight.
>>13409
We skullhoers nao.
Alright, there were three giant skulls and several other bones, and Tracy is experienced in working with them. They should make sufficient light-weight plating when attached to the hydra-skin armor.
>tfw no pics on Jewgle to illustrate what the armor looks like
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13413
13414
>>13412
>bone armor
Why you gotta wear such garish armor? Why can't you wear beautiful bronze like Fae's natural armor or something stylish like Korak's dandy armor
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13414
13415 13416
only the dead can know peace from this evil.png
>>13413
>Why can't you wear beautiful bronze like Fae's natural armor
Don't. Fucking. Tempt. Me.
I've been wanting to do that for quite a while now: I had to make excuses not to do it.
>bronze
It's brass.
Anonymous
3FC3c
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No.13415
13417 13418
>>13412
A skull breastplate then, layered/secured over the hide w/ straps? Not enough time to fashion the greaves so I'll say it's +3 for now?
>>13414
This, it could still happen. Itd make some nice crafting supplies too,... HD Hide (hydra/dragonne) would be most swank.
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13416
image.png
>>13414
You can ask Lenos or your Flashy if you want to be in beautiful Amber clad. Notice how the poner on the right is well protected against most attacks, but gives off the look that she's fit to in the presence of royalty, while also retaining her natural cuteness and sexuality
Anonymous
UILY4
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No.13417
13418 13419
>>13415
By the way GM, I've been meaning to bring this up in gameplay. Can Fae be transformed into a Unicorn by Tourcil?
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13418
13420
>>13415
She'd make the most awesome armored surcoat too. Think of Hercules's Nemean Lion pelt, only with shining brass scales.
>>13415
Did that use-up just one skull, or all three? Anyway, that should at least protect her baby-maker.
>>13417
Unicorns and lions are natural enemies even in European mythology. Also, really?
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13419
13421
>>13417
Polymorph, yes. A willing subject can be given new form for 1min/level (Torc is 15) which 10rnds/minute is 150 rounds.
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13420
>>13418
I'd think one, the giants have big heads compared to a pony.
UILY4
?
No.13421
13422
>>13419
Well, I guess 15 minutes is technically long enough for my purposes if cast at precisely the right time, but is there any way to do it for a much longer period of time?
\r
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13422
13423 13425
>>13421
Permanency spell, but that's beyond any character's ability
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13423
13424
>>13422
Tourcil can cast "seeming" on any subject, right?
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13424
13428
>>13423
Yes. Seeming is an illusory disguise spell. Tracy has a mask that can achieve those benefits without a spell though,....
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13425
13426
>>13422
What would be the wisest distribution for those 6 stat points we have to allocate? I was thinking mostly dexterity, but idk... I was figuring she'd be in her monstrous form in situations during which she needed the epic strength boost, but I'm not sure exactly what each stat is useful for.
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13426
13427
>>13425
>6 stat points
I think you mean 3
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13427
13429 13431
>>13426
Ah... *smacks self for doing it again*
Put that all into Dexterity then. She's already got monstrous (though limited) strength for situations where she really needs it.
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13428
>>13424
I thought about that, but, well, that's Tracy's mask
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13429
13430
>>13427
>Dexterity
That's... Actually a very good allocation of skill points for your character's play style
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13430
13431
>>13429
Nightmare-form fighting feels like a separate play style altogether, but increased Dexterity seems better in both forms (especially since she can't use her hooves to hold stuff in that form, despite huge strength). It should at least be useful enough for stealth and speed.

How many skill points did we have to allocate again?
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13431
13433 13450
>>13427
TRacy's dex is now 19 with subsequent bonus increase in several areas including AC and skill checks.
>>13430
I need to know Tracy's experience layout, including experience reserve for assassin (don't save them, by the time you kill the T and the nerd, she'll have more levels anyway).
Most classes have a formula for determining starting skill points, and gain class-specific points per level. I can crunch those numbers for everyone except Tracy right now (unless Infernius devoted more levels to psionics).
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13432
And with that, I'm out
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13433
13434
>>13431
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! Another character now has more points in some skill than mine does in charisma. *screetches childishly and autistically*
What is my lay out again?
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13434
13435
>>13433
In nightmare form, she's got more than twice your strength.
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13435
13436
>>13434
I'll still smite an outsider if necessary
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13436
13437
Spoilered
>>13435
Remember: open hand.
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13437
>>13436
You win this round... But one of these days, your luck will run out, heretic
Anonymous
/tbMl
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No.13439
13441
1493181243383.png
>>13398
you really think Ghadaffi was a dictator?
>top kek
Anonymous
/tbMl
?
No.13440
13442
>>13412
i multi classed into jedi.
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13441
image.png
>>13439
It was an example of how not to overthrow a government
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13442
13453
>>13440
What are your clerical domains anyway?
Anonymous
NDJq0
?
No.13443
>>13397
>stop dragging your feet
Oh shit
NO fighting plz
Come to your consuler with your problems
Signed,
Torcuil
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13444
Praise Epona.
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13450
13451 13452 13469
d58320a7def0ad11645c147c1f9897ba.jpg
>>13431
Okay then.
Everything that didn't already go into Rogue goes into Blackguard. I've completely given up on Wilder, Pyro, and Psionic Fist, so just say those went into BG. Last I knew, she had two levels in Blackguard, but she'll need more in the future to realize her ambitions.
As for the rest, save it for Assassin.
Anonymous
SKXd0
?
No.13451
13455 13456
e75.jpg
>>13450
How is she fit for black guard? Also, the description in the 5th edition makes it look like grade A heresy
Anonymous
SKXd0
?
No.13452
13455 13456
MmdVbBR.jpg
>>13450
>Her ambitions
Anonymous
/tbMl
?
No.13453
13457 13461
>>13442
natsoc
memes
truth
Anonymous
/tbMl
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No.13455
1459486083589.jpg
>>13452
>>13451

Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13456
13458 13459 13460
>>13451
>How is she fit for black guard?
Well, she's already got the prereq's for it. Nightmare is the quintessential Blackguard mount too, so the thematics fit. Blackguard spells are lawful evil, so that fits my ghost rider narrative.
Also, I'm an edgelord and a megalomaniac to boot. I have since changed the root of my character development plans and ambitions.
>>13452
Oh hush. You're only barely meeting the Lawful Good requirements for Paladin anyway.
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13457
13459
>>13453
Amen, brother.
Anonymous
SKXd0
?
No.13458
>>13456
It's the lawful part that seems difficult to reconcile with her
>Barely meeting the Lawful Good requirements
I'll rebut this when I can think of an argument
Anonymous
/tbMl
?
No.13459
1460094321589.gif
>>13457
>>13456

Anonymous
SKXd0
?
No.13460
55529862.jpg
>>13456
Look, all I'm saying, is that she's been on knife's edge to getting exterminatused for a while now

>Megalomaniac
Well, that would explain the root of the problem THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE, DAMN IT
Anonymous
+Bs2P
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No.13461
13462
8e8848d287ed7da86d51906b61fbcf4c.jpg
>>13453
I wonder what kind of spells natsoc could have..
>detect Jew
>antisemitic field
>Iron fist
>Blitzkrieg
>Whiteskin
>Gotterdammerung
Could also look up Buddhist/Hindu rituals for aesthetics: they have 6 gorillion that involve swastikas as an essential part.
pic unrelated
Anonymous
/tbMl
?
No.13462
13463 13471
>>13461
>pic related is me.
Anonymous
SKXd0
?
No.13463
13464 13465
>>13462
Why doesn't your OC have the stars and bars painted on him though?
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13464
13466
>>13463
Shooping isn't easy you know.
Anonymous
/tbMl
?
No.13465
13466
>>13463
he dosent know about north amareica.
Anonymous
SKXd0
?
No.13466
13467
>>13464
But he repaints his OC (err... permutation of Iron Will) fairly regularly

>>13465
My character and yours need to have a talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn9CLxtifXc
Anonymous
/tbMl
?
No.13467
1491100315694.jpg
>>13466

Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13469
13470
>>13450
So how many again?
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13470
13472
>>13469
I assumed 15 in rogue and 2 n blackguard, unless there could be more in BG.
Anonymous
bh6D0
?
No.13471
13511
>>13462
What kind of sword does your character use again? I might attempt shoops, if I find the motivation to stop being a lazy faggot.
Anonymous
SKXd0
?
No.13472
13473
>>13470
That would be 17 classes total. You have 15 total to allot
Anonymous
bh6D0
?
No.13473
13474 13475 13476
>>13472
In that you are correct.
If I take 13 ranks in Rogue (pretty sure that's minimum) and 2 in blackguard, will I still have the skill points needed to get the necessary ranks in disguise, hide, and move silently for the requirements of Assassin?
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13474
>>13473
Well, Korak was able to spot you without any sort of spot or listen check. I'd be a bit worried about that.
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13475
13787
>>13473
Yes. Before taking the 2 blackguard ranks, you have 130 skill points to distribute. Rogues always get the most skill points, and it only takes 1 point to rank in class skills.
From Blackguard you also get 6 additional skill points as a blackguard

Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13476
13481
>>13473
Also, I checked, and assassination is as a matter of fact Imperium approved. Just don't use the Blackguard harvest souls ability, at least don't use it on any human-esque enemies, and you won't get divorced https://youtu.be/RYtQMhnBtTw
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13477
Wait, I did that wrong. Here's the equation
1st level: (8+1)x4
Additional levels: (8+1) x (increased levels)
36+(9 x 12) = (ans) + 6 (bg) =138 skill points.
No more than 18 points per class skills and no more that 9 per cross-class
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13478
13555
Trump has 54 skill points, Torcuil has 72, and Infernius has 36
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13479
13787
So Tracy can max out disguise, sneak, and hide and still have 84 skill points.
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13480
I'm still confused as to how this all works
Anonymous
Q3hfR
?
No.13481
13482 13484
>>13476
>Harvest souls ability
Wait, is that even a thing? The closest thing I can think of is Death Knell. Pretty sure only Necromancer's can pull a soul from the body.
No promises.
FYI. I normally make combat decisions based on what seems "edgier", so don't give me ideas if you don't want to see something.
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13482
13483
>>13481
At 2nd, you get aura of evil, detect good, poison use (blah), dark blessing (charisma bonus to saving throws), and smite good 1/day.
Anonymous
OIXRn
?
No.13483
13485
>>13482
At what level doesn't she get Bull's Strength then?
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13484
>>13481
>no promises
So that's the game you want to play is it?
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13485
13486
>>13483
You also get 1 1st level and 1 2nd level spell per day
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13486
13487 13488 13490
>>13485
Ah.
Actually, can I spread those points between Wis, Int, and Dex then? I didn't think I would have so many skill points available when I put that all into Dex.
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13487
>>13486
*smacks self for typing "Ah" like a retard*
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13488
13489
>>13486
"Nope!"
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13489
>>13488
Ok..
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13490
13491 13492
>>13486
Skill points are different from ability points. Also, your character has a lady bug charm that you never use. What do you want to trade for it?

GM, what are Trumpaladin's ability points?
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13491
13497
>>13490
S 13
D 11
C 12
I 13
W 14
Ch 16
His +3 has not been assigned yet.
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13492
13493
>>13490
>your character has a lady bug charm that you never use.
Forgot about that.
>Skill points are different from ability points.
I figured she'd need the Dex for stealth.
>What do you want to trade for it?
Moar evil magic.

I get it though. She's a beast at this point, even when not transformed.
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13493
>>13492
Any chance you'd be willing to make a deal on the last bug charm?

>she's a beast at this point
Take another look at the number of rogue skills. You'll see pretty quickly why that class needs to have four times the number of skill points as the paladin class. There are far more things you need to spend it on
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13494
13495
GM, does the strength modifier apply to attacks with melee weapons?
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13495
>>13494
Of course, damage as well.
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13496
13513
Which incidentally, Infernius better be careful not to break himself with those arms.
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13497
13498
>>13491
I could have sworn you had him at 14 Int last time

Are magical beasts covered by the "handle animal" skill or something else?
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13498
13500
>>13497
No, Trump would need a separate skill for that (exotic). IDK about Int, above is whats written down. I'll look back when I have time.
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13499
13501 13502
In terms of Etherealness, how many actions does changing planes count as? Can sneak attacks be done in the same turn as changing planes?
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13500
13502
>>13498
If my profession check is high enough does that mean I will not be denied a business loan
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13501
13502 13503
>>13499
>change planes AND make a sneak attack in the same turn
No. Just no.
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13502
13504 13506
>>13499
Its a reasonable strategy. Note that Tracy's perception of the material plane is limited to immediate surroundings (5-10') when in the ethereal.
>>13500
That's precisely what that's for
>>13501
Don't worry
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13503
13508 13625
flat,800x800,075,f.u10.jpg
>>13501
*momentarily considers maxing-out Escape Artist skill to appear inside characters' bodies*
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13504
13505
>>13502
For skill ranks, does the ability score modifier give free ranks, or free points on a skill check?

Also, how do I gain the Negotiator feat?
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13505
13510
>>13504
They ability modifier is added to the skill and other modifiers on a skill check.
>>13504
>Negotiator
Choose it. Everyone has 6 feats plus whatever bonus feats for race or class.
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13506
13507
>>13502
If a new ability point is applied to int, raising it to 14, would the int modifier retroactively apply to skill points gained (since it would raise the modifier from +1 to +2) or only prospectively?
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13507
13508
>>13506
Prospectively
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13508
13509 13512
>>13507
Am I eligible for the "Inquisitor" feat?

>>13503
This idea has already been explicitly considered and rejected
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13509
>>13508
>rejected
I never said that
>Inquisitor
Investigator?
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13510
13514
>>13505
I took improved sunder for Blackguard, but I'm undecided about the rest. Any suggestions?
Anonymous
/tbMl
?
No.13511
>>13471
a Zweihander.
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13512
13625
Spoilered
>>13508
>rejected
That only applies for spaces that are filled with solid material.
Anyway, I've been playing true to the Element of Unoriginality: all of my options I've considered have been rip-offs of something I've seen on 4chan.
Anonymous
/tbMl
?
No.13513
>>13496
ill be fine.
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13514
13515 13530
>>13510
You would need a light armor proficiency for your current setup (technically medium also to add the breast plate, but its not a full breast plate yet). You would want two-weapon fighting to go double-knives,....
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13515
13516
>>13514
Could quick draw apply to switching between weapons?

I'm feeling like Negotiator, Leadership, and Multi-attack
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13516
13517 13520
>>13515
Yes, but don't forget that Trump needs 3 feats in armor. Oh hey look, humans get 1 extra skill point per level, giving trump an extra 15 skill points, same for Torcuil
Anonymous
/tbMl
?
No.13517
13518
>>13516
what are the racias for minotuar? also how many points can i put into a skill?
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13518
>>13517
18 in class skills and 9 in cross-class skills. Cross-class skills take 2 points, and for minotaur I used Hal-orc stats, which were already applied
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13520
13521
>>13516
I need three feats to wear heavy combat armor?

>15 points
My power grows
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13521
13522 13525
>>13520
Yes. Armor proficiency pertains to a character's ability to move in armor, as well as utilize it properly in combat (deflection, protecting vitals, etc.). Its not like weapon proficiency where you get a negative to attack.
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13522
13523
>>13521
Oh.

So I can max out in three skills and have 15 points left over?
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13523
>>13522
Yes,
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13524
>inb4 Diplomacy, Intimidate, and Bluff
Anonymous
UILY4
?
No.13525
13526 13527
>>13521
The wiki says Paladibs and Clerics get armor proficiency (all three levels) as free bonus feats
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13526
>>13525
It does, carry on. ^_^
Anonymous
/tbMl
?
No.13527
13528 13529
>>13525
can i put skill points into a non class skill?
Anonymous
/tbMl
?
No.13528
>>13527
i want to do a reverse mr bearington.
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13529
13551
>>13527
at 2/1
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13530
13531 13533 13538
green fire.jpg
>>13514
Yeah, I thoughyt of those, but I also considered that the boss fights would be in Nightmare form (only 1 weapon), so for those only I was considering something like:
>great cleave
>Improved bull rush
>rapid metabolism
>Awesome blow
>Two-weapon fighting
Most wouldn't be accessible unless transformed, but would work well when facing a damned army. I was figuring Silent killing in pony form; and charging beast in monstrous form, for dire/extreme. situations.
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13531
13533
>>13530
Also, aren't blackguards proficient in all armor types?
Anonymous
3FC3c
?
No.13533
13534
>>13530
Nevermind, light armor is an automatic feat for rogues
>>13531
Huh, so they are. That makes no sense, but w/e
>>13532
Kek. Remember, you're saving one of those for Thez
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13534
13535
>>13533
It will be remembered. /)
Anonymous
/tbMl
?
No.13535
13536
>>13534
post pic i didnt get to look
Anonymous
+Bs2P
?
No.13536
710x528_8925762_6577684_1459347547.jpg
>>13535

Anonymous
/tbMl
?
No.13537
mainboard rape.