Without using eye-witness testimony. I'm an atheist and want to see if you spirit believers can show evidence.
Documentations of others being "possessed" isn't evidence, could just be a matter of mental health issues.
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>>55430I can't prove it with science just like how you can't disprove it with science.
Its a dilemma that makes us have to go outside of science to find the answer in which there are a lot of theological, philosophical, and other academic attempts to justify this in the case of being for or against. I could try to argue for or against but I'd do it a disservice, if you actually want to find if its true or not I'd recommend you do the hard thing and drop science since its unable to apply to this field and attempt to read the alternatives that have an equal amount of arguments for and against.
>>55430Here's an idea, are you feeling scientific, then try your luck at the Ouija board, but be warn you may find you self in trouble.
You're going to need some buddies for this to work, to unquestionably prove whether or not spirits exist, if you do get a visitor, ask it how can I give you enough energy for you to prove me that you exist, as an example you may ask it to try to move a particular object in the room, once the apparition spell out that it has enough energy.
I recommend if you go through with it that you really know what your doing, you may have called upon a devil. Make a contract stating that any spirit that wants to communicate with you must be benevolent. If you do go through with it keep us posted.
>>55430If we're going to have obscure topic boards, at least use them when you make your obscure topic thread.
>>>/vx/ >>55430Prove they don't. That's not to say I believe in them, but what we do know for certain is that we don't know everything. To say a form of existence is impossible is arrogant when it's merely improbable.
It may, in fact, be possible that there are life forms that exist beyond our ability to perceive as of this time. Also sage in all fields, this belongs on
>>>/vx/ >>55438>Implying we shouldn't rebel against le obscure topics and move all the fun obscure topics back here. I want my 40k threads again thank you very much.
>>55430they use glitch etc to communicate with us.
you can cam them when you use quarz and analyse the difference of vibration [but thats only 1pixel. just build that more often^^].
more questions?
>>55436wtf? just because YOU cant?
>>55444Science is a false God, it can't answer every question. Subjective things and things that deal with say outside universes are not able to be tested by science so there is no point in trying to. We need to accept this and then find ways to answer our questions without science when we come across these dilemmas.
>>55437useing a pc is more easy, they dont need so mutch energy for it. but you need knowlege in codeing. that image here as example change itself when you copy, but the code is the same. i can only screencap it for showing aaaaand you must make the zoom from youre folder correct.
>>55446here the code
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<just use that in a file and name it how you want with .bmp on the end.
>>55445>false godGeTriGatnot my fault YOU HUMANS cant think
>>55430You are one, currently piloting a meat suit.
>>55430Without using eye-witness testimony. I'm a nihilist and want to see if you humanists can show evidence.
Documentation of meat bags being "alive" isn't evidence, could just be a matter of existential puppetry.
>>55449What if we are all ghosts of people who have died but continuously possess living people bodies and just don't know until that body dies and we repeat the process.
>>55445ignore this:
>>55593 message, it was meant for someone else.
>>55447I don't know what to do?
>just use that in a file How so, how do I do that?
>>55623Enter it into notepad and save it as .bmp
>>55631Yes, I did that already, It says Windows Photo Viewer can't open this picture, it says that either it doesn't support this format, or that it doesn't have the latest updates.
>>55623... wonderfull .gif XD
load this
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327639494985646081/327649494101524481/HxD.rar
use this for unzip programm >
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327639494985646081/327695356811018240/WinRar351.exenow start the programm and write the code in it.
now save it with a name and make a ".bmp" on the end.
...or you make the LessCool version.
download it ready here
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327639494985646081/417049112190517258/AlicpornE.bmp
i test it together with other ones. many of them get a black image, some computers dont even read it.
just experiment around and open it with some different stuffs and look what happend.
noone had negativ experience with it but i mean it opens something so i cant say its 100% hurtless.
download or test it in folders, not desktop. that will be SaveForWork^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CilTF6bP0zo
lets get the shit going :D
woho advertising >
https://discord.gg/Nqd2yfX >>55703No tricks now.
I'm busy now. but later maybe.
Well, no one can prove the existence of ghosts, it is quite easy to disprove too, all you have to do is call it a trick.
Yet, there is some pretty fucked up stuff when you realize dimensions come into play and we only see what our eyes allow us to see, as in, the light spectrum.
Maybe we call them ghosts, but we only do so to try and explain events where do not fully understand.
We call them ghosts so we don't have to think about it, about sharing reality with beings we cannot see, nor touch, while they silently stalk us.
>>55447I'm sorry what is this supposed to prove ?
For lack of better phrasing, there are strange entities that exist and you won't truly believe unless you have a noteworthy experience, that's it, but I'll elaborate.
There isn't anything that is cemented as being ghosts or demons but there are beings that we cannot see with the naked eye, these things are most of the time invisible but can under the right circumstances become visible, they seem to act on their own accord without much intervention and prefer the dark to roam around, they appear to float without weight and control their gravity at will.
I can't exactly preach or proclaim to have seen or been in the presence of "ghosts" or "spirits" but there is definitely some strange things out there, if you really want to find out, you have to go to the right place at the right time to witness some surreal shit, sitting in a bedroom and calling up spirits can work but for actual sightings to be made you have to look for them in their homes, not yours, unless your house is haunted.
Fires seem to arouse night wanderers and If you wait while being patient by one in the right spot deep in the dark somewhere, you just might get to see one of them, they will reveal themselves to you, if not then you are not worth being shown, they take likings to certain people who are unique and favor being hidden but will do so if necessary, some will call you mad for claiming to have been in the presence of what can be described as a 'daemon', the things I have seen are existing in a whole opposite way of operating to us and cannot be classified under given names, they are generally peaceful but can be angered if you pry too far.
You have to break yourself from the idea that rationality is the be all end all of the world. After that you begin to realize just how much more is possible than you could ever have conceived before.
Hard mode: Read Kant
Easy mode: Where do your thoughts come from? Like, when you close your eyes to meditate... they just sorta jump in there right? How? Why? Seriously commit to asking yourself this question, and continue to ask yourself why to each answer you come up with.
Tutorial mode: Watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEdSNs8fV3A>>141910>Vid>Here is the proof for why there is no truth based on knowledge that doesn't exist nor can be justifiedI think he gets stuff half right.
>>142419He's calling into question the way you come to truth by questioning axioms. You are taking your own axioms as evident. He's pointing out that it's impossible for you to prove them.
>>142756Yes, I'm aware what he says but point still stands.
>>55430Thanks for dissing my family line of Taoists, asshat.
Jokes aside, my family is quite elated to find the location of my great-great grandpa after maybe 50+ years of searching. My great-grandma even came down just to cry tears of joy over finding her dad after dying without finding out. It was very moving.
>>55430>Prove to me spirits existI can't but the following satanists are claiming they can.
Mileage may vary as the curses as well.
>Minneapolis arts center slammed for encouraging 'family friendly' DEMON SUMMONING>"Families are invited to create a vessel to trap the demon">An arts and culture center in Minneapolis has received backlash after it promoted an event encouraging families to attend a "ceremony to summon and befriend" a demon of their choosing.https://www.sott.net/article/483590-Minneapolis-arts-center-slammed-for-encouraging-family-friendly-DEMON-SUMMONINGhttps://twitter.com/AlphaNewsMN/status/1690075615003836420https://twitter.com/widowvision2000/status/1690105098079186944https://twitter.com/TheSkojecFile/status/1690131374865616898https://twitter.com/HartDismas/status/1690120454206369792 >>168720I wouldn't consider Satanists to be a credible authority on anything spiritual.
>>168753Well, the satafags tinker with the spiritual world all the time, on the christian side only exorcists adventure in it, and atheists have no idea what they are talking about.
>>168780Atheists are the only ones who don't
claim to have knowledge outside of the material world.
>>168784Technically the agnostics as well.
>>168780You have no idea what you are talking about as well.
>>168720This kind of stuff is just larpy bullshit designed to trigger easily-baited Christian boomers, same as the “after-school Satan clubs.” For one thing there’s nothing especially noteworthy or difficult about summoning demons in the first place, you can do it in your living room if you really want to. Second, there’s no reason to summon one unless you have some specific objective or task that you want it to carry out. Making a mass spectacle out of summoning a demon just to say “hi” to it and then send it back makes no sense and probably wouldn’t work. Also, it looks like there’s a lot of silly new-age cat lady bullshit baked into this too, how to “trap” demons that cause negative thinking and that kind of nonsense. Nobody who actually understands or practices any sort of magic/evocation would waste their time on anything this silly. This is just a publicity stunt done for the amusement of normies, ignore it.
>>168753>>168780“Satanism” doesn’t actually exist, at least in the sense that there is no actual religion devoted to the worship of an entity called Satan. Satanism is basically just secular humanism or atheism with edgier aesthetics.
>>168780>satafags tinker with the spiritual world all the timeNo they don't. They're larpers.
>>168814This