/vx/ - Videogames and Paranormal

>>51186
What check would I need to roll for Torc to understand the wand machine?

>>51185
"Thanks, big guy."
*tempers heads in acid*
*pulls out two badass metal skullz, cast from the skull of a jibbernigger*
*inserts gems into eye-sockets*
"This'll show those spooky bois what pain feels like.
It's frustrating sometimes, because they don't bleed or writhe, but they're worth the effort to dispose of."

>>51188
Push all of the buttons and see what happens.

>>51190
Unironicly this.

>>51187
"A faaaaavor? You already have my favor,...." she giggles playfully.
>>51188
You could try examining it

>>51186
You hear about Necromancer liches all of the time, but Cleric liches are underrated. Their ability to bolster and command undead gives them great potential as villians commanding undead armies. Being able to unhallow their territory also makes them a pain to destroy.

>>51192
"Me glad me do ,but can you help me inspire some more towns people to fight?"
Is the a ghetto in town gm?

>>51194
>ghetto in town
I've been meaning to look into this too.
Are there any slums in Port Barry that Tracy could hang out around?

>>51191
>>51190
ANY OTHER ADVICE?
>>51192
>rolling

[1d20+3 = 19]
>>51196
>sigh
Fucked that up

>>51197
Tell Tracy when you're done.
I wanna make a wand of True Strike.

>>51198
That sould be useful.

>>51197
You could have just looked at it, I'd have told you without the dice roll,....
The machine is a rectangular cube, with a door on the left, the top, and the side. The left door has several trays and shelves, and has "Input" written over them. The top door is a retention area, where it appears a wand would be situated when performing the charging spells, with non-conductive material to retain the piece. The right door folds forward, and shows a computer display, with various indicators and menus. Luckily, its pretty straight forward. The prompt has three options: Craft Wand, Charge Wand, and Destroy Wand.
>>51194
"Hmmmm. The brothel used to be the seedy area, but I don't know what else. I haven't really looked up and down the docks tho, I imagine there might be some seedy areas adjacent or nearby."

>>51200
Oh, you would of?
Torc trys pressing "Craft wand"

>>51200
"Are there any negros?"pls say yes.

>>51202
"What's a knee-grow?"
>>51201
A menu appears, prompting Torcuil to select the desired wand. (you can just say he selects one of them, I still have the convo)

>>51193
And yes, this. A clerical lich had never occurred to me, but it makes perfect sense.

>>51203
The first one I said

>>51203
"It look like human with black/brown skin and it commit alot of crime."

>>51195
>>51194
"It's not good enough for Tracy to be created by a Nigger. No, she wants to be the Nigger"

>>51206
>>51202
"Ask your Ghestapo. Aren't they supposed to be a criminal law enforcement?"

>>51208
"Thez been here longer than my Gestapo been alive."

>>51209
"Didn't you hear her several months ago? She hasn't taken that much interest in the town, besides occasionally visiting a few areas"

>>51206
"You mean like a drow?"
>>51209
"Yeah, that's not true at all. See, when I was last here was something like 300 years ago (by this world's accounting of time). I've only spent maybe a year combined in this world. Since dying from my world of origin, most of my time has been spent in the outer planes."

>>51210
"Uh me forgot."

"Thez go gather a crowd for me please, me need to ask gestapo about negros"

>>51211
>>51212
"Sort of like a drow but not a elf."

>>51211
"The Drow? Where are they? Fuck those guys. Tell me where they are so I can go kill them"

>>51213
"This is a fantasy game. All humans are Europeans, and most of those are Northern Europe"

>>51205
The menu disappears, and the prompt changes to:
inb4 jokes
Please insert 3'-4' hardwood, 7 crystals, 3gp
>>51212
"Gather a crowd? Oh-KAY!!!" <whooof>

>>51214
"Yea but me need fromtline soldiers that can take damage for my men and negros would be perfect for that."

>>51212
"Do you not know where your own followers are?"

>>51217
"Buffalo Soldiers? Front-lines builds character! I like it. They aren't your followers so don't expect any loyalty out of them though"

>>51214
Not true at all. I have entire areas that have darkies, and not just,... well,... darkie and co.
"Hey."
Offense intended.
"Prick."

>>51219
"Me will discipline them and then reward them for good behavior with watermelon kool aid and fried chicken."

>>51220
Jej
"Jej"

>>51220
Why you make progressive game world?

To Darkie
"Uh... I mean the other drow"

>>51221
"That might work. It will keep them employed"

>>51215
Okay then. Torc heads toward the towers vault to get the crystals and gold.
If only Norfilly could bring sticks in for Torc to use

>>51224
"Me miss filly"
>>51223
"Negros are easy to train."

>>51223
"Want to come with me maybe you can get some to supplement your ranks."

>>51225
"They are your fellow humans. Don't be too harsh on them"

>>51204
I brought it up because I was just yesterday looking at a thread on /tg/ made by some faggot complaining about liches being too cliche.
Liches do come in all flavors. A Clerical, Death-Domain lich is easily a BBEG tier villain who truly wrships Death; buffing thousands of undead minions at once, and summoning powerful extra-planar spooks like Nightwalkers and Lavawights with Planar Ally spells.
I saw an idea about an eco-terrorist Druid lich, with a bunch of dinosaur skeletons, and Ranger liches who were effectively Ring-Wraiths with only humanoids as their preferred enemies. Even Paladin (or former paladins) make for great liches, while Bards-liches are the epitome of Death Metal.
I like templates.

>>51228
>Paladin lich
A Blackguard lich? Wat

>>51227
>your fellow humans
Infernius is a bull though, and a Heck at that.

>>51228
Trump has his way of seeing things, and that's how he presents it

>>51227
"Barely"

>>51204
A cleric is a wisdom based spell caster, whereas a lich is charisma based... so only a Sorcerer (or bard I guess, maybe a charisma minded paladin/black guard) is going to be truly built for being a lich when they come into it. It sure beats dying I guess

>>51232
"They are your citizens too. They probably look up to you"

>>51229
It could be a Paladin of Tyranny or a Paladin of Slaughter too. Or a Fallen Paladin, like the Lich King Arthas.

>>51234
"Want to see if you can recruit some?"

>>51223
Seriously? You're gonna give me heat because I included negros in the list of potential obstacles, adversaries, and potential resources?
>>51225
>>51224
Filly is still around if not ITT, as I'm sure has been noticed.
>>51228
>pic 2
FUKKIN' KEK
Yes. Its cuz the idea of a lich (crazy magic, intricate rituals and symbols n shit) naturally is associable with wizards. However, while contemplating facets of the Game backstory/ground, I had considered alternate liches, specifically Druid and Monk.
>>51233
You forget that not all characters are trying to break the game

>>51233
Yeah, but Clerics can also Command and Bolster Undead without even casting spells.

>>51235
I guess, but given the way that Paladins fight, being a lich isn't going to give very many benefits besides not being completely dead

Which I guess is the primary benefit of being a Lich

>>51235
Arthas op,pls nerf.

>>51240
Arthas was a bitch. He's nothing without the sword

>>51241
For you.

She felt the candy calling her name; whispers carried by the wind. Bring offering of sticks it said. Bring us what you can carry and we will be yours, the candy said. This was her time she knew. This was the day she would rise up bring sticks and earn candy. So she gathered up what she could find while sprinting towards the sweet promise of candy.

>>51237
I guess they can be kings as well

>>51237
> not all characters are trying to break the game
I'm used to those who are...

>>51237
>I had considered alternate liches, specifically Druid and Monk
I still feel like a Wizard is the best architype to use. it just feels right

>>51243
GIVES PEACH RINGS

Where is the vault/collection of gold and gems?
>>51243
Kek

>>51243
"Want some gummy worms little filly?"

>>51243
Torc will summon candy for sticks

>>51244
>wizard best
Of course, but wizards aren't the only overly-ambitious and/or fearful of death. There's no rule that says "You must be MAXXED to be a lich. Nope, its just a (particularly distinct and expensive) wonderous item,... a bunch of spells and rituals, and viola, everyone is running from you.
>>51243
Did it just get more adorable in here, or is it just me?
>>51245
Didn't you just ask and answer your own question?

>>51239
Liches are mainly a template made to make better villains. A paladin of Slaughter would have good synergy though.
>Which I guess is the primary benefit of being a Lich
Mainly that.
Liches often have big mouths about not fearing death and everything, but they're usually just big worryworts who were too cowardly to face death/age. Then they go out of their way to hide their phylacteries in personal demoplanes and whatnot just because they're so horrified about the prospect that someone will find them.
>>51241
Yeah, he was quite the pussy really...
It kind of made him a better villain in an ironic way, but not really, since that theme is already kind of overdone.

>>51243
The Peach Rings becon, calling her to the radiant tall man with the captivating hair style

>>51243
"O-oh! Haven't seen you in a while..."
*offers candy-apple*

>>51248
>Didn't you just ask and answer your own question?
Uh, idk. I just asked where it is

>>51252
The gems are in the vault.

>>51248
*Walks to the gestapo office.*

>>51244
>GIVES PEACH RINGS
Success!

>>51246
>Want some gummy worms little filly?
>Do I want gummy worms?
She could feel her heart beat faster, she didn't need to think or do anything. Her body did it all by it self. She was now only a gleeful spectator hearing herself say
"YES"

>>51251
Takes candy-apple gracefully.
>The candy hadn't lied to her. Candy had never lied to her. She had brought sticks and it had offered itself to her.

>>51253
But where is it?

>>51256
Idk where anything is in the tower, desu..

>>51255
*takes out bag of gummy worms*
*opens*
*gives handful to norfilly*

>>51255
"Don't eat the candy apple from the blue one! She probably poisoned it. Or put razor blades in it"

>>51257
The tower is over port barry.

>>51259
"Oh, please!"

>>51252
You said where is the vault (as in the vault in the Tower)/collection of gems. o_O
>>51253
This
>>51256
Its somewhere between the main level and the strip-mall area. I don't know, I keep adding shit. Just go to the vault, you've been there before.
>>51255
<whoooof> Thez appears breathless, exhuberant, and sweating a bit.
"Sorry, I'm not supposed to break character, but I couldn't resist!" she says offering Filly a big chocolate bar. "I hope you like it,..." <whooof>

>>51261
"I know you"

>>51263
"If I felt like killing someone, a dagger would be more convenient."

>>51259
"Me think you get off on being mean to tracy."

>>51262
>I'm not supposed to break character
Is this not how she usually behaves?

>>51255
"Don't turn your back to Tracy"

>>51265
"Give her time. She shall prove me right"

>>51262
"You don't offer candy to unsuspecting children?"

>>51266
Hey, this is the first time she's ever cut out in the middle of an impromptu show, let alone just to say "Hi, here's some candy".
>>51267
Filly is pure, quit trying to taint her with distrust and character assassinations Xp

>>51258
This is truly a day for joy.
>eats some gummy worms

>>51259
No one would do that to filly.

>>51262
Takes chocolate and hugs it.

>>51267
Tracy isn't cheap enough to use poisoned apples when she could stab something and make it look like a bear attack.
>>51269
>No one would do that to filly
This.
*pulls out a second candy-apple and eats it herself*

>>51268
>quit trying to taint her with distrust and character assassinations
This

>>51271
Is this related to Thez's performance?

Trumpaladin places himself between the small filly and the blue one, keeping an eye on the latter

>>51257
Thanks for the help
>>51262
Fair enough.
Torc decides to pop his head in and ask if anyone needs something from the vault, then sees filly.
"NORFILLY"
>hugging ensues
I just remembered, no one can use a wand without use magic device, can they?

>>51269
*hugs filly*
"Me going to dangerous place, no follow me okay?"

>>51270
"It's not 'I would never stab our cute stick-finding candy loving filly. Nope! It's 'I would rather maul her to death than poison her'"

>>51275
>no one can use a wand without use magic device
You can if you can already cast the spell.
Tell Tracy about the machine, so she can make a wand of True Strike.
>>51277
Yeah, so you can be completely sure that she wouldn't do something pleb-tier like a poisoned apple.

>>51277
"Reeeeeeeeeeeee no hurt filly."

>>51273
>>51274
>>51276
>>51275
Hugs all.

Sadly I have to retread back to bed and reading about Daring Do and to eat some of the, what some would say, hard earned candy. And so she fell asleep with candy in her mouth so she would have sweet dreams.

>>51273
No, that's cuz Filly is here and it makes me smile. Thez is currently doing a cover of "Your Type".
>>51280
Thanks for stopping in. Come back anytime. Also, plz give Torcuil a stick.

>>51280
*tries to make sure filly isn't stabbed*

>>51281
>Comes here and takes candy
>Doesn't deliver sticks
Kek

>>51281
Sticks for everyone. Candy demanded it.

>>51280
*pets the sleeping filly*

>>51284
You heard it here, everyone gets a stick.

*s

>>51284
Huzzah!
*takes stick*

>>51286
"You get a stick, and you get a stick and you get a stick. Everyone gets a new stick!"

>>51284
>>51286
Torc grabs about 10
>>51278
>You can if you can already cast the spell.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE My idea is ruined

>>51286
*takes enough to make a fash- axe*

>>51291
There's not enough for fash-axes.

>>51286
And the i walk to the gestapo station.

>>51280
Awwww..
Feel free to pop-in anytime.

>>51284
*graciously accepts stick*

>>51290
Tracy has that skill maxed-out though.

>>51292
*sad moo*

>>51292
>not enough for fash-axes
She's been collecting sticks for a long time though..

>>51298
Some asshole burned a portion of the woods though

>>51290
>My idea is ruined
What was it?
>>51299
Insignificant.

>>51296
That's not what I was planning

>>51293
I mean i fly there.

>>51293
Infernius hears music emanating from the Rusty Duck, en route to the gestapo headquarters.
>>51298
I'm not convinced that she's giving away her collection, I just thought she was giving away sticks cuz got candy.

>>51300
Actions have consequences. Live up to them

>>51303
Shoot!
That sly filly is saving all of the best sticks for herself Xp
>>51304
No U

>>51305
All of the characters are spell casters to at least some degree

>>51305
Good idea anyway.
All of the PCs know a few spells too. Could you make Tracy a wand of Greater Invisibility?

>>51308
Haxx

>>51305
You can still do that.
>>51303
*hums along to the tune an smiles*

>>51311
That's the reason why D&D is not a single player game. You're supposed to play in a party and use each other's strengths to complement

>>51310
You said gather a crowd, which in her mind means "Impromptu concert!".

>>51309
Ikr. /bestspell/

>>51313
Its fine. The crowd my be more receptive to my message after theyve heard a good song.

>>51314
Still expensive and abusive when combined with sneak attack

>>51317
>abusive
Assassins get Greater Invisibility: they get it so they can get auto-sneaks.

>>51312
You hear that whistling sound? It's the sound of the point flying over your head.
Yes it's a multiplayer game, but as last weekend shows the dungeon isn't gonna exactly let all the players stay together.

>>51311
>can Tracy cast Cure Moderate Wounds
Yes.

>>51318
Not in 50 charges for free. And I seriously doubt they get it with only 1 level

>>51320
Not with only three levels in Black guard

>>51320
HOW

>>51316
One? Please! "Your Type" was her second song. She'd just finished her first when she <whooof'd> in to greet Norfilly. She's doing a cover of "Like a Prayer" now, and curiously, ppl in the audience are doing the choral accompaniment.
>>51315
"Lies! Best spell is DANCING LIGHTS!"

>>51324
Play Free bird!

>>51321
The Use Magick Device skill (available to all thief classes) could allow her to cast it with an okay roll.
In all technicality, the wand's spell only has to be on you class's spell list to work.

>>51325
e_e
>>51327
Hmmmmm
"Hmmmmm"

>>51326
I don't care. Your only intent is to break the game. You try at every possible opportunity to break the game in any way you can fathom, where it be from making new shit up, importing new rules, willfully breaking the rules, finding loopholes, or combining many things at once.

You take such strong advantage of this GM's permissiveness it is appalling

>>51328
Idk.. she sounds so fun while she's performing..

>>51329
Oh stop it.
I doubt I'm the only rogue who thought of using a Wand of Greater Invisibility. A Ring is better in the practical sense.

>>51329
You assume GM's permissiveness isn't part of the Game. If I wanted rule-cuckery, none of this could have happened. Yes, there is something to be said for rules, and there is equal to be said for "noss the rules". Not all the rules of course, but not none either.

>>51332
It is. It should not be abused to try to break the game. And he does that

>>51330
Its her favorite thing to do aside from Infernius, and you're right, it makes more sense than "sorceror"
>tfw the board thinks sorcerer is spelled with 2 e's

>>51333
>break the game
How exactly has the game been "broken"? It still seems fun and playable to me.

>>51335
Because you've been kept in check thus far

>>51336
I'm sure GM is more than capable of saying "no" himself when he actually thinks something is a real issue.
Relax.

>>51338
Refuted, I would totally allow that combination. Nothing would come of it, but it would be fuel for many keks.

Why is this thread at the top of the overboard? We're at like 800 posts.

[1d100 = 36]
Torcuil's faggot crumbles up a piece of paper and throws it away while mumbling "You try and do something nice..."

Torc grabs the stuff he needs from the vault, cancels the wand of CMW, presses randomize, and throws the shit in.
You can pick GM; minor, medium, or major. http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Wands

>>51339
I actually thought you would.
It was just a ironic hypothetical example.

>>51338
The problem is that it's hard to anticipate just ezactly what conseqences saying yes to a particular proposition would have. On its face, it may be perfectly reasonable and indeed unobjectionable. but because your entire intent is to break the game, you find ways of combining particular allowances with other things inside and out of the rules in such ways that a deviation has vastly greater effects than previously anticipated. You also ask for so many things that it's easy to boil the frog - to not see just how great of an effect stacking so many new allowances can have

>>51339
>>51339
Now you're tempting me

>>51343
You and I differ on a fundamental level then.
To me, finding wacky, avant gard ways of haxxing problems with a combination of little things that seemed irrelevant when they were first introduced, is the most fun part of the game for me.

>>51345
I've fucking noticed

>seemed irrelevant when introduced
Not to you. You plan this shit out ahead

>>51346
>You plan this shit out ahead
Not very much, tbh, I'm just always considering stuff in the moment.

Big brain Nia

>>51347
I admit I see evidence of that as well

You ask for shitloads of big things

>>51349
>You ask for shitloads of big things
That I do...
*shrugs*

>>51344
You cant just ban people you disagree with.

>>51348
Wut?

>>51351
Did I ban anyone tonight?

>>51344
You should attempt to attract a Golden Protector as a cohort, so you can marry Fae off.

>>51353
I know but you were tempted to because gm was gonna let tracy do something.

>>51341
You assume I haven't done that already
Nigga

>>51355
>Marry my cohort to Fae
Never

>>51356
Uh huh

>>51356
Pls use Greater Planar Ally to summon a golden protector to pop Fae's cherry.

>>51359
Pretty sire i shouldn't do that if i wish to keep playing.

>>51359
Leave Fae alone

>>51361
Wish my god gave out stuff. I think fae should be removed untill i get something.

I gtg for an hour or so, GM plz check rabbit

>>51362
The Cleric is generally agreed as being more powerful than every other class in the game except the druid and maybe the wizard, you have such a bat shit insane strength modifier that you deal more damage than anyone else in the party by a massive magin, you have more hit points than the next two highest players combined, you have a ring of regeneration, you have the best set of ability points of anyone in the party by far, you're allowed to cast spells without having enough wisdom, and you have a full set of followers, very possibly higher than Trumpaladin's, even though you have a lower charisma modifier

>>51363
Will do. I'm cooking now anyway, so I'm in and out

>>51364
The point still stands mr two suits

>>51366
No. No it doesn't

>>51367
Yes, yes it does.

>>51367
>>51368
I was about to chime in until you both started in w/ the "Does too" "Does not" shtick

>>51369
My only point is and has been that the guy is trying intentionally to create easy buttons to situations and show up the rest of the party with advantages, where as the rest of us just play the game

>>51370
In case you forgot i never asked for any thing i received.

>>51371
Yes. That is my point. You are fine

>>51370
Yes, and I have allowed it to such a degree that it allows me to get an idea of what is being overlooked, not considered, and disregarded. Also keks.
If you think its not going to eventually blow up in the face,....

>>51370
>show up the rest of the party with advantages
What are you talking about? It's not a contest, let alone a PvP game.

>>51375
Not that players would PvP even if,....
grumble Crimson Skies grumble

>>51376
Correct.

>>51370
>create easy buttons to situations
Then that means we can go through even harder challenges later-on.

I would pvp with atlas

>>51379
I do enjoy difficult challenges

>>51383
Make a meme of hitler blasting Infernuis.

>>51379
Which you will promptly fiat new easy buttons for. Then what was the pint or trying to beau the hand except that we have to play a broken gane? Are you just trying to turn the entire game into you trying to outsmart GM?

>>51384
Maybe...
>>51385
That makes the game more interesting: seeing if we can somehow slip out of increasingly difficult challenges/puzzles.

>>51381
That's a bad idea. There's losing a flight, and then there's fighting Atlas

>>51378
I saw that!

>>51385
Thats generally what D&D works. The players try to out smart the gm.

>>51386
By cheating your way out of it

If you want to show off how clever you are, try to actually be clever. Don't abuse GM's permissiveness

>>51388
*How
Fucking auto correct.