/sp/ - Football

>>24340
What information was provided with the invitations? Maybe there are some screenshots available of how those invites looked like?

>>24310
I know Izzy via an unrelated community. He's got severe problems with alcohol, often goes on multi-day benders, and those screencaps are *very obviously* while he was way past intoxicated.

>>24341
id have to dig through old dms with members but I might have some left. If I can find a server with Phoenix in it ill look in our dms.

So I was trying to piece together what the fuck happened in BT staff around the time the list was being made (see https://web.archive.org/web/20230926014113/https://bronytales.com/staff vs. the page today, SEVERAL BT staff were removed including half the Community Admins, possibly Databyte throwing Scorch under the bus triggered a cascade of resignations Saturday Night Massacre style), and noticed that the Scorch entry's first evidentiary image...suggests Databyte knew about Flutterpony/Yellowbrave early on and was actually okay with them being on BT as long as they didn't go around spreading the idea of MAP as a form of sexual orientation. "Admin" can only be Databyte, Daring, or Doc (TimelyAlchemist), but the writing style is clearly Databyte's on the resolution part.
This suggests that Databyte was at the very least persuaded over time by Daring, and was normally okay with having MAP-identifying (even to the point of soapboxing) people around as long as they stayed quiet on the server, if possibly only out of thinking it best to not punish for off-server behavior.

It to me is absolutely nuts that in evidence for why someone's awful, they'd mistakenly put their own post showing they were bad in that way just because it referenced the someone.

Anyways, if anyone knows how to get sources on TimelyAlchemist or Schlorgadorb's info on what happened, there'd likely be some juicy details on the drama that unfolded when Daring and Databyte decided to purge a bunch of their own staff.

>>24351
TimelyAlchemist and Schlorgadorb even moreso were incredibly reasonable people. Schlorgadorb would actually listen when someone had an issue with moderation and try to help.
Penny is a Hakuna Matata sort of person who just does what's fun without much thought, likely a complete yes man in practice...

>>24330
based but should had some opssec first.

>>24359
Who should have opsec? Jacob? Nah he's a retarded nigger.

>>24362
Should be all of em or none, afterall we're discussing fucking ponies here, no illegal child abuse shit. Stories or and fanart remains free speech no matter what the moral bs.
We shouldn't even have to defend anyone!

>>24351
I'm still skeptic about flutterpony and he should clarify his views and intentions. If you read this you or anyone concerned, please have a seat.

>>24365
"his views are problematic" lmao

>>24367
aka, he didn't think the same as us

>>24365
I don't know why you keep going on about these users as if the posted server logs don't reveal literally everything. Go do your own fucking research if you care about this shit.

The rest of us are discussing the actual issue at hand here, which is idiots (like yourself) trying to engage in a witchhunt.

>>24365
If you mean Flutterpony, she has nothing to answer for besides thinking it was a good idea for her and her kid to play on BT.

>>24367
Yeah, the way it reads, I have to wonder if they told Flutterpony to not even talk about things in DMs with server members. BT has some absolutely retarded policies. Not only is all in-game whispering supposed to follow their rules even on swearing, but also, there's this in https://bronytales.com/rules:
"All private messages to other members of the server on any messaging platform associated with BT must follow BT language and content guidelines unless explicitly agreed on by both parties."
These motherfuckers want you and your buddy, if you both decide to play on BT one day, to fucking write out that you allow swearing or referring to any anatomy MLP wouldn't show to each other. I asked once, and they said this is meant to stop grooming...I think however in their minds, anything where you get a kid to have ideas less restrictive than theirs is "grooming", like if you got a teen to recognize that the statue of David by Michelangelo being nude, which Nintendo allows in Animal Crossing, isn't goddamn porn. If the parent of the teen found out and reported the DMs to them, they'd see no explicit approval, and ban you.

>>24370
So the foalcon list is about Discord because Discord's a "messaging platform associated with BT".
These asshats literally wanted to play Discord police because in their eyes, the moment they came on Discord to organize their shitty heavily-regulated bureaucratic mess for basic pony roleplaying in Minecraft (seriously look at the fucking staff structure DIAGRAM on the staff page! And you have to APPLY to roleplay as a canon character! It's so anal), if it didn't meet their standards of who they didn't want able to come talk to their members, they needed to go around witchhunting until it did.

>>24371
>foalcon...anal
I agree completely, anon.

>>24372
Can bet you these homeschooled fucks (they actually took OFFENSE one time to it being asked why all their staff were homeschooled and instamuted a guy) would be mad about just promoting anal. Make sure to draw some anal foalcon violating God's wishes, just for them.

>>24365
While I'm sure Flutterpony is already aware of this thread (his buddy Scarlet Ribbon already took my screencap in >>24330 and posted it in his Discord), he doesn't really have any reason to explain himself. If you really care about this his Discord ID is already available in DataByte's foalcon thing.

can I post pictures of my penis in this thread?

>>24408
Is your penis a pony?

>>24326

Do you know that two of your mods joined PCL? Frostmyr/Stray/Whiskey Jack and silver_edge_uwu, by the PCL name list Compiler_Anon made. And they show up on the leaked server logs. Are you aware they have joined PCL?

>>24351

So if nebbie is right and DaringShepard is behind The List and blackmails/threatens DataByte to make him enact this witchhunt, then Daring possibly replaced/fired all these people to bring the BT staff in line with his own, retarded policy.
Hostile takeover. Also fits to Nebbie's testimony that DaringShepard suddenly returned to BT after a long absence and that he then changed the rules of BT (screencap). This fucker is on the biggest power trip ever.

>>24435
I remember them joining a while back along with me before I left. I have no idea what they're up to these days though haven't spoken to either of them in nearly a year.

the original foalcon advisory is now locked away behind a password!

https://fimfetch.net/foalcon-advisory

>>24448
He hides his unverifiable list behind an access token and plays the victim. Damn no more updates to the frens list.

The bin.

>>24448

>Stlll going behind closed doors.

Dude has learned nothing from all the outrage.

"Nor did I intend on using this document to attempt to convince the operators of Fimfiction or Derpibooru to change their policies, especially seeing as both platforms have made policies and financial decisions to protect this content and have staff who actively engage with foalcon and/or lolicon."

Man, this is really him saying "I can't make the staff on Fimfiction and Derpibooru remove foalcon from their sites because they don't listen to me, but you can, my fellows, send them messages, harass them, pressure them until they break and give in to our demands."

Man, what a psychopath.Secretly calling folks to harass the staff on Derpibooru and Fimfiction means you also just dig your grave in this fandom further, DataPedo.

"This document was the result of multiple investigations of reports we received about users in a Discord community that I moderate and was prepared and formatted for sharing with trusted owners and moderators of other MLP Discord servers. Put plainly, this document was a summary of Discord users who we were either actively watching or had banned from our server for activity that could expose minors to material of a sexual nature or who themselves engaged with content that sexualized underage characters. The original purpose of this document was to provide additional information for moderators of MLP Discord communities who may be also investigating or watching for users that may have an elevated chance to post content that may threaten server safety."

>Put plainly, we still attempt to moderate all of Discord and to build up a secret cabal that bans everyone into foalcon from all Discord servers, because we are paranoid freaks who think molesting a picture of SCOOTALOO means to molest a real child.

"This document was never intended to be used as a "hit list". As mentioned above, this was an internal document intended to be used as a resource for other Discord server moderation teams."

So it's still a hit list, but only "trusted individuals" are allowed to hit by banning people who like foalcon from their servers, got'cha man.

"As this document was never intended to be made public, and as several uninvolved people are being targeted and harassed for its existence, I have made the decision to make this document and any updates to it private and only shared with trusted individuals."

You're still a freak, a hypocrite who secretly faps to Scootaloo and denies it, a psychopath, a harasser and an abuser and the same goes for all your PCL comrades who probably already gather on a new server now and continue their conspiratory moral micro management of the fandom there. Hope you enjoy more pizza, but maybe it's more than pizza when you hear someone ringing at your door the next time.

wouldn't suprise me if the guy hoped that making this list would make everyone on it commit collective seppuku so they can make the fandom a 'safer place for children'

>>24453
Probably, what an absolute dipshit.

>>24435
>silver_edge_uwu
I know this dude, pretended to be a troon for years so they could keep baiting this German NEET into showering them with affection and shit, eventually got tired of the act. Broke up with him and started dating another incredibly emotionally stunted and autistic dude when he was at a really low point, then broke up with that guy a week or two later.

Really manipulative person and all around shitty human being, real quality members the PCL chooses.

>>24452
>people fantasized about me committing suicide
I feel proud. I didn't make the list (I'm too secretive about my enjoyment of foalcon) but he might be referring to a green I wrote: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/40947219/#q40970962

>>24457
He agressively denies all of those accusations but fucking everyone says its true. From what I know he's dating another guy now.

>>24448
Holy shit, the text of this is GOLD. It even reveals that Patreon was the final nudge to him suddenly caring like this is some kind of moral catastrophe that foalcon exists (some on FiMfiction speculated this before the list was out, that it was just a matter of needing to keep revenue).
Remember, something that came up was that Databyte is a fucking bootlicker to authority (totally down with Biden telling prospective staffers it's okay they smoked weed only to kick them out over it later once the administration was stable), he must've taken Patreon coming at him with an email as a personal wakeup call that it was time to purge anything "problematic". DaringShepard coercion or not, Databyte almost certainly saw an opportunity to dress up "I need to stop hosting foalcon stories or else I can't keep my Minecraft server gathering up the kiddies for me on" as him only just now being aware of the depravity he's been hearing about for years.

>>24460
Holy shit, yeah.

>Additionally, this was never intended to implicate users of other platforms, which is why the information presented from other platforms was sparse.
Funny then how one of the main features of the list was detailing what foalcon stories people had and what accounts they had on other websites. Real...funny, you know.

>Nor did I intend on using this document to attempt to convince the operators of Fimfiction or Derpibooru to change their policies, ...
Oh, of cou-
>especially seeing as both platforms have made policies and financial decisions to protect this content and have staff who actively engage with foalcon and/or lolicon.
Ah, there it is, the implication that everyone should go and harass the shit out of FiMfiction and Derpibooru, complete with specifically calling out the staff, in the sentence that technically says to not do that. Gotta love how even this guy's individual sentences are two-faced.

>Cartoon CSAM?
No, you retard, CSAM is actual CP, cartoon CSAM is an oxymoron. God, he's so dense.

>A Derpibooru moderator shared information to get more people harassed.
The fuck? Did some Derpibooru moderator actually reveal anything useful in the cheese pizzaing, or is this literally about Nebbie and TSP talking about what the fuck is going on? If it's the latter, then ah, of course, how DARE moderators do the unconscienable, daring to reveal what they know about what's going on, while you justly grab screenies anyone who even joked about foalcon to slap together into your massive pile of information shared around for harassment that targets them.
We all know that it's the job of moderators who aren't you to say nothing while you control the narrative and continue on gatekeeping, gaslighting, and girlbossing.

>>24461
DataByte and Daring actually put a spy account in a bunch of Discords, lmao they're complete hypocrites.

>>24454
The fuck is going on here lol.

>>24462
Some have been joining as many discord and telegram channels as possible to collect info. being a NEET helps.

>>24460
You can see that same attitude in his behavior here, too. His response to this thread was to immediately file a complaint for doxing against mlpol's hosting provider, assuming that the site owners would respond the way he would if he were in the same position, ie by panicking and immediately nuking all discussion of the subject. Instead, staff just deleted the personal info and allowed discussion to continue, which sent him into even more of a pissy rage and caused him to keep filing spurious complaints until he lost all credibility. Faggots like him always implode in the long run.

As an aside, there's probably a lesson in here somewhere about not relying on Patreon and other such sources to fund your projects. As soon as you're dependent on them for shekels they've got you by the balls.

>>24468
Unfortunately he's a broke lover. Can't pay for the server on his own so he needs to keep patreons dick up his ass

>>24470
He's a SWE, I doubt he really has financial problems.

>>24471
im going to assume that SWE means Software engineer in this context?

>>24454
I love this edit, the scootaloo on his shirt kills me.
>>24458
Honorary Lister

Summaryanon here. The summary has been updated:
https://ponepaste.org/9926
Now, quite some things have happened recently:
-An anon gets the idea of taking The List (or at least some of its claims) seriously, and makes a new thread for that subject. It backfires horribly, to say the least. They've also taken the "fight" to /jdb/ on 4chan (it seems they've got better success there, though that's not saying much). Oh, and one guy who agreed with said thread's OP slandered /mlpol/ and (You) a bunch, so now the mods have added a good ol'
>Literally one post on the entire site by this user
message to his post.
-Some more info about how the PCL operated, more specifically, the invite process (see >>24340). Also, more proof for the DaringShepard-mastermind theory (>>24351).
-DataBytes gets banned from FimFiction and the FimFiction discord (based).
-And, now, the big development we've all somewhat expected would happen at one point or another. DataBytes. PRIVATED. THE LIST. In its place is a "Public Notice" - DataBytes's thoughts on the whole situation, and his own attempt at clearing up "misinformation". Oh, and there's also an elusive login prompt, passing which supposedly leads to the current state of The List. Now, we just gotta wait for someone either to crack the password (good luck!) or to leak it, just like how someone leaked The List originally.
Don't want to wait for all of that to happen, though? Worry not, though, for it's been well archived!
https://archive.is/ZJ6kz (pre-update)
https://archive.is/EqLig (updated version)
https://iwiftp.yerf.org/Pony/Miscellaneous/Fan-made/FimFetch%20meltdown/Index-2024-04-08.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20240419223159/https://fimfetch.net/foalcon-advisory
In terms of the actual statements made by DataBytes, HK-FortySeven over on FimFiction has made an excellent rebuttal of them, which you can read at https://www.fimfiction.net/group/12/clopfics/thread/536499/fimfetch-owner-declares-jihad-on-foalcon-doxes-hundreds-of-users#comment/7961779
Besides that, some generous anons in this thread have also tried their hand at showcasing the failings of DataBytes's "response" (see >>24452, >>24460, >>24461).
Though all the important things about the notice have already been said, I'd still like to bring attention to this excerpt:
>The 4chan MLP community almost immediately went into a vindictive frenzy to do their best to attack the perceived threat to their interests, especially as it seems that a good number of them were on the list for some reason or another. <...>
>However, the most dangerous response was when some people decided to directly attack myself and others who supported or tolerated this document in any way. My personal information was posted publicly and packages were sent to my front door. My photos and pictures of my family were posted in online threads where people fantasized about me committing suicide or being gassed to death. Several threatening messages were sent to me personally. At least one attempt is known to have been made to get police to raid someone’s home. A Derpibooru moderator shared information to get more people harassed. The thread on 4chan got so bad that moderators stepped in and deleted the thread, and their fallback site had to have the site administrator step in multiple times.
My takeaways from this:
1. He likes to generalise all of us for the actions of the few.
2. He sees no distinction between /mlp/ and /mlpol/.
3. He denies all responsibility for the thread/post deleting on 4chan (>The thread on 4chan got so bad that moderators stepped in and deleted the thread)
3. Apparently, saying a mean comment (>>23594) actually means fantasizing about it. Sorry to inform you, but if someone tells you "Go fuck yourself!", they aren't imagining you having autofellatio.
4. Back to that statement, note how he uses the plural ("in online threads") to overexaggerate the extent of where his photos where posted. In reality, the photos were only posted here and on a near-immediately deleted 4chan thread that no one cared about.
5. There was a attempt to raid PhoenixFire's house.
6. He seems to leave out all the false reports that were filed to /mlpol/.
Probably more things to infer, but I'm kinda running out of space now.
>>24458
Congrats!

WARNING!
THE PCLACKS ARE POSTING ILLEGAL THINGS ON UB!

>>24483
It has now been removed! Big thanks to the mods!

>>24483
Generic "best videos & photos" post?

>>24485
Yeah. It went something like this:
>Actual CP in the OP pic (at least they seemed to be underage...)
>Title is something like "ki-ds p-rn-n-ect."
>Two links
I think the text above said something about them being collections? Didn't bother clicking or archiving them, so not sure.

>>24486
Justpaste link too? I saw another post on another low activity imageboard three hours ago. I wouldn't count the pic itself as CP because she looks 14 or so and she has panties but it's suspicious, might be the same guy doing some routine spam.

>>24487
The one I saw had a naked girl sucking a dick (there were two naked girls, actually). I'd say 14 would still be classified as CP (or, at the very least, illegal) in most countries. I don't know what link-providers they were using, didn't pay attention to that part.

>>24258
>I need some dosh
How about drawing instead of trying to get clout in twitter with any political new or just get a real job? It's really amusing how the artist that always have problem with moneys are the most political ones and their twitter is more filled with political bullshit instead of art

>>24482
Generalizing is a big thing with PhoenixFire and seemingly others involved with PCL and the list too, WestRail642fan's ban in several servers is because of revealing that he was banned for his list entry from G5: Chatter of Ponies. The bit about a Derpibooru moderator sharing information in the new list entry text seems to be the same reasoning, that to make 4chan aware of shitty behavior is tantamount to begging 4chan to dox someone; they literally think 4chan is everyone's personal army and that to even talk to said army is a command of war.
Makes sense from idiots who are used to heavily-moderated forums like their own Discord servers, where anyone even talking about drama is branded a "troublemaker" and stopped, and to have someone openly being malicious without near-instant removal is unthinkable. That too has got to be why Databyte seems to think that 4chan deleting a thread is solely about at being "so bad".

>>24482
Oooh, HK-FortySeven's got a pretty good point on that "for general release" bit. Databyte's never been a very good liar, he often shows his hand by saying too much of very specific things (like the bit about Patreon banning such content being in the context of a supposed moral crusade, revealing he really just is trying to cover his ass for bowing to Patreon instead of switching SubscribeStar like FiMfiction did).

>>24493
Considering his name is Jacob, the fact he's so bad at lying is the only reason he's a nigger and not a kike.

Summaryanon here.
So, today, Nebbie (the Derpibooru mod) has come forward with a bunch of details regarding BronyTales, the Minecraft server which DataBytes moderates. To summarise, he argues that the main cause of this drama, from which everything else, be it The List or the PCL, is that server. He also provides a rather detailed chronology of events on BT leading up to The List, starting in late 2019, in his post. It goes something like this:
>[Late 2019] FreeCreatures Guild incident.
>[May of 2020] Nebbie joins the server, tells someone on it about drawing a foalcon comic.
>BT staff become very strict to him for that; apparently, only reason he didn't get banned was because DataBytes stepped in.
>Some very strict mod gets kicked off.
>The strictness of mods becomes more lax in general.
>[Some months later] Daring Shepard returns to BT, promises change to the old rules list by making them more lax, especially on violence. He took some suggestions from Nebbie, and, to quote:
<He was notably initially quite receptive of my ideas.
>Another mod, Schlorgadorb, also becomes accepting of Nebbie's ideas.
>Mods suddenly all turn very hostile against Nebbie.
>Daring mutes Nebbie for
<questioning why it seemed like BT staff were required to be homeschooled (<...> as all BT staff above Helper were homeschooled).
>[Sometime later] Nebbie gets dismissed by Daring for his RP role as Applejack, despite not meeting the criteria for removal.
>BT's Builders is blamed by other staff for this hypocrisy and strictness.
>[August 2021] Nebbie gets temp muted for some pic, and, to quote:
< <...> the impression I got was that I was correct in my hunch that Daring had co-opted the Builders to be a sort of secret side staff organization that would go after targets that weren't on the table by normal policy.
>[Early 2022] More drama about Nebbie's dark/saucy comedy. YellowBrave [Flutterpony] is disliked by Daring for being a MAP.
>[Soon after] Nebbie posts ukrainekino and some meme (which DataBytes found funny), someone goes on a rant about it and Nebbie gets temp banned.
>[Within a few weeks] A friend who defended him also gets banned for "getting mad over US politics".
>[December 2023] Flutterpony and his child get banned (see also >>23803). As Nebbie put it:
<Daring personally told them of their ban, and responded to an appeal for the sake of their child being able to play there with extreme vitriol.
>At around the same time, mistercokehold8 gets kicked off from BT staff for being iin a foalcon server (they apparently had good reason for being in it). This is done by Daring personally, and might be the earliest application of The List.
>Moderator purge. (see >>24351)
>A few days before The List was discovered, someone informed Nebbie that
< <...> there was a squad going around reporting people to Discord servers for them being into foalcon.
>This same person was also personally banned by Daring from BT.
>The List gets leaked.
If you want to read to whole thing in greater detail, see https://www.fimfiction.net/group/12/clopfics/thread/536499/fimfetch-owner-declares-jihad-on-foalcon-doxes-hundreds-of-users#comment/7961779
Oh, and there's quite a lot of focus put on some gal named Kiri. She thinks intertwining tails are sexy, and was quite involved in this whole thing.

Some other news:
-Over on Ponybooru, Compiler_Anon publishes a summary of his own, mainly intended to argue for why the PCL (or, at least their Reports channel) can be called a ban list. While he makes good points, I myself still believe that we shouldn't judge the PCL as a whole, but rather judge each of their members separately. You can read it here: https://ponybooru.org/forums/dis/topics/the-fimfetch-foalcon-advisory-list?post_id=98743#post_98743
-Over on 4chan's /jdb/, the posts by the anons from the let's-take-The-List-seriously thread get deleted.
-CP (or at least what looks like it, with some links attached) gets posted on /mlpol/, but is quickly removed by the mods (thanks!). Something similar happened not too long ago on Ponepaste. In both cases, the PCL is blamed.

>>24496
Kiri's probably got nothing to do with the list. She was definitely important on BT, as they've got a long dramatized blog post about defending her from an art thief (https://blog.bronytales.com/drama-blog-the-princess-and-the-art-thief), but of course you're going to see your kid-focused MC server coddle a 13 year old artist.
The crazy thing is that they would delete things based on a 13 year old's idea of what's saucy.

Summaryanon here.
Updated the summary with the newest information. Also, there's been a Derpibooru thread that I only became aware of today, so that's nice, ig.
https://ponepaste.org/9926
I've also added a dictionary to it, with some relevant words explained. (also some very trivial things too, like what a brony or horsefucker is). Any suggestions for what to add to it? And suggestion in general?

>>24502
Mmm, juicy.
But could do with some proofreading, you've got some parts just copypasted from Nebbie without changing pronouns ("defend me"), and "hyporite" on the Databyte image at the end.
You should probably go over his info again and summarize as well as cross-verify what you can.

>>24504
Thank you, fixed!
Also added some tags to match those of Compiler_Anon.

>>24502
>Fimfetch Owner outed to be a LOLCOW
>11 pages
lmao

I'd hope he was an actual lolcow so he would get in Kiwifarms' radar.

What an entertaining thread. I won't be participating but having more people aware of the list is always good.

>>24505
"MISCELENCIOUS"
Also looks like Nebbie updated the FiMfiction post with more info. Something about Daring going full Homeowner's Association on Nebbie for building pony/timberwolf statues that had oak logs beneath their tails instead of being silky smooth, and some baticorn farting.

>>24502
With regards to previous versions of The List™, Rome Silvanus's archive has all known revisions since the start of the drama, starting from the March 31 revision but not including the current password-protected version.
https://iwiftp.yerf.org/Pony/Miscellaneous/Fan-made/FimFetch%20meltdown/
Rome's archive also has a lot of additional files he's captured, mostly from April 2 when the drama was still very active.
>saved copies of the chatlogs from catbox
>downloaded copies of all image urls from said chatlogs
>web capture of the first /mlp/ drama thread
>screencaps of fimfetch's patron, pre- and post-drama
>the april 3rd version of the summary paste
>zipped archive of three foalcon servers' chatlogs
>the shell script Rome uses to save new versions of the list
>a twitlonger-style PDF "dossier" by daringshepard about a user called "flutterzky"
>the dox of both phoenixfire and databyte, because Rome gives zero fucks
The image URLs from the chatlog leaks are especially interesting, since even if Discord image links didn't expire after 24 hours, they would most likely have been deleted regardless when PhoenixFire nuked most of PCL. I haven't had much of a chance to look through the images, but there could be some interesting finds there.

With regards to the CP poster, that is definitely not related to PCL or BT: that is the work of a CP spambot that posts images and paste links on a regular basis to not only /mlpol/, but to other altchans as well. The mods and jannies are usually very prompt about deleting those threads whenever the bot is active; just report and hide them as they pop up.

On an unrelated note, it's been a very long time since I've posted to /mlpol/; back when the site still ran on NPFchan, in fact. How's everypony been?

>>24509
He updated it again, looks like he has months for almost everything now. Timing of all this shit looks pandemic related, sudden panic in early 2020, then a while where everyone's chill in late 2020 as kids get on celebrating the lack of school, then it all goes tits-up in 2021 because they've been cooped up too long with abusive narcissists instead of touching fucking grass.

I dunno when this happened, but it looks like Phoenix blacklisted himself and his family from whitepages, nuwber and thatsthem.

Summaryanon here.
https://ponepaste.org/9926
>>24507
Indeed, it is!
>>24509
>>24513
Spelling fixed, new info from Nebbie incorporated.
>>24511
Link added, the CP situation clarified.
>>24506
Technically speaking, during the start of this whole debacle, Kiwifarms somewhat got on board, and someone posted DataBytes's dox on there. Didn't take long for them to get distracted by the Flufflepuff drama, though. After a brief period of inactivity, it seems they might return to talking about this happening, more specifically, the let's-take-The-List-seriously thread.
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/my-little-brony-ii-the-cloppening.6186/page-312#post-18243389
Make of that what you will.

Today came the fifth claim of abuse and the fourth to claim Copyright Infringement

At least the reported post this time actually exists, >>23812 but it contains no identifying information and explicitly admonishes people not to harass him.

When you start unnecessary horsefucker drama and you get yourself doxxed by the people you tried to unperson, then while trying to get it all swept up KiwiFarms archives it all, you might think you're in a tight spot. However tight it seems, it will never be as tight as Scootaloo's foal pussy.

>>24553
Congrats on 666th reply, may the devil of Scootabuggery guide your cock when her fudgehole is dry.

New Nebbie post just dropped on fimfic. Seems like Daring left off a bit from the list to not mention that someone mistercokehold8 recognized was from BT. The real juice is Databyte bought Scootaloo plushies from a con, and reasoned that mistercokehold buying an Apogee plush is evidence of being into foalcon.
So by his own soyboy reasoning he's into Scootaloo. And Databyte was still following Shinodage on DA not long ago, so it goes double! Kek, have a shitty edit.

I hope he keeps going to cons, being a retard people can easily recognize by how fucking ugly and stupid you are and then going to cons in the fandom you tried to usurp control of is genius. It's why they wanted to own all of the con leadership because their original plan was 100% to spin this into them being installed as foalcon jannies in every convention sweeping it up and probably getting paid somehow as well or grifting off of it. Jacob is fairly retarded, even for a nigger like he literally is, and it's even better since they got doxxed by their own bullshit but the people that they pissed off are largely not doxxed nor known to them. I'm not implying anything should be done to this ugly retarded nigger, because his whole effort already collapsed on itself due to incompetence in leadership (since he is a nigger), but people definitely will not largely be supportive of his stupid fucking face if they see it I would imagine. Not even if they like niggers, or tranny-nigger-anglo abominations like he can appear to be at first glance until you realize that's still just a nigger anyway.

It's a shame he never got to fav porn on https://inkbunny.net/jascotty2
It would have been hilarious if it was confirmed he was into lolis too.

>>24560
>MarsMiner pfp
>11 year account, predating BronyTales
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Summaryanon here.
I've got little time rn, so I'll keep things brief, won't update the paste for now.
-mistercokehold8, an associate of DataBytes and Daring since BronyTales who got on The List, is holding (or at least plans to) a QnA on the topic of this happening. Links:
>https://derpibooru.org/forums/dis/topics/fimfetch-owner-outed-to-be-a-lolcow-private-mlp-community-leaders-server-logs-leaked?post_id=5610385#post_5610385
>https://ponybooru.org/forums/dis/topics/the-fimfetch-foalcon-advisory-list?post_id=98846#post_98846
-New story got posted on FimFiction on the subject of The List. Haven't read it yet, but it's made by a lister. Link:
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/557001/ive-got-a-little-list

>>24620
He should hold it here because Derpi is rulecucked and will sweep it up for DataByte even though they are on opposite sides, as they are all Reddit brained cucks.

>>24638
out fucking skilled

>>24638
Looks like it's just that one of his, https://www.patreon.com/BronyTales is still up. Almost certainly either caused by the list or caused by someone pointing out various foalcon/rape/incest fics to Patreon spitefully, rather than something Patreon has against him specifically.

Summaryanon here.
Sorry for still not updating the paste. It's been a rather busy week, but, hopefully, I'll have more time in the near-future.
So, here are some things that happened (not in chronological order):
-The fifth false claim about abuse has reached /mlpol/ >>24552.
-FimFetch's patreon becomes under inspection. Whether this will lead to it taken down or not remains to be seen. If it does, it unfortunately probably won't do much damage to FimFetch, as he'd either migrate to another site or maybe even pay out of his own pocket.
-Yet another story based on The List! https://www.fimfiction.net/story/557001/ive-got-a-little-list
-A concerning thing is posted on FimFiction by the writer Bad Dragon:
>[...] Apparently, there's another List out there since I'm not on the first one, yet have just been denied up to $150 simply for being who I am.
>Here's the short summary of events:
>I've entered a writing competition with my story: [link to story]
>The story followed all the rules of the contest, yet it has been disqualified simply because it was written by me. To be more precise, because I've published foalcon in the past.
Full statement: https://www.fimfiction.net/group/12/clopfics/thread/536499/fimfetch-owner-declares-jihad-on-foalcon-doxes-hundreds-of-users#comment/7968323
My personal thoughts: I think that there does not exist a second list. Instead, either of these things happened:
1. The contest runner did a background check of some kind on all the participants, found this writer in the DataBytes thread, read his thoughts, disqualified him;
2. Technically speaking, The List still exists and is probably still updated; it's just behind a password. So, who's to say that DataBytes didn't simply give the password to the updated list to the contest runner for them to verify the "innocence" of all contestents?
-The QnA with mistercokehold8 doesn't really happen (except for a few semi-early posts on FimFiction about what BronyTales is or whether that infamous >hypocrite.png image is real) because no one had any questions for him. However, there's no formal statement, so you're still free to ask him anything you want! (as long as it's related to the subject at hand, ofc)
-Y'know that paedophilia thread? It uh... well, I first thought that it had actually left behind the constant off-topicing, but uh... no. It started out with some things on the Russo-Ukrainian war (or, well, Russia in general), but that didn't last for long. But what did, though? Some random anon posted about how this whole thing made him, for a lack of a better word, "depaedophilify". Now, that thread has gone full off-topic and is now a fight between the "christkikes" and the "however-the-fuck-the-other-side-gets-called-by-their-opponents". It's an... interesting read, that's for sure.
-At this point, I think it's safe to say that KiwiFarms doesn't care much about this happening anymore (not like they did in the beginning either). They're back to discussing other shit, like the Flufflepuff drama (that's still ongoing?) or some random patreon creator.

Maybe some other things happened too. If so, I missed 'em.

>>24706
>interesting read
NP Anon I try.
You're doing a good job.

>>24706
>Some random anon posted about how this whole thing made him, for a lack of a better word, "depaedophilify". Now, that thread has gone full off-topic and is now a fight between the "christkikes" and the "however-the-fuck-the-other-side-gets-called-by-their-opponents". It's an... interesting read, that's for sure.
I'm the anon from that thread who went to a psychiatrist last week and I seriously have no idea what's going on there anymore, been thinking I should get my head checked for a while and it's now in progress. I have to say seeing myself on a pedo list didn't help and I really needed that. (Turns out I'm not one, thank god.) But the posts about the guy seething because I'm doing therapy, bumping it again, saying I'm going to be more in trouble all that are plain fucking weird. I'm not even sure the guy's been around here and tries just to make up buzzword to blend into MLPOL. I'm not gonna add a layer of paranoia but I have a feeling they're on this board trying to troll as hard as they can, not like it's going to help them.
But the whitchhunt is real, however raising a list accusing members is severe and dehumanizing. I'm tough but I'm thinking of a LOT about the consequences it can have. Like Anon said on the other thread, Databyte fits totally the sociopath category, manipulative, using gasligthing techniques, not thinking of the consequences.
Thanks again Summaryanon and everyone. You guys are doing Celestia's work!

>>24720
To save some time for others, as a rule, if you have to go to a therapist to determine whether you're a pedo, you aren't, no matter what twitterites like Databyte say.
Types like that say that stuff BECAUSE they lack a basic understanding of actual psychology.
People with actual education know damn well that people are generally weirdasses capable of separating reality from fiction, and that the real dangers are people like Databyte and all the twitter "antis" who start talking about doing real harm to real people over fictional harm to fictional people, not the people doing fictional harm to fictional people.

>>24715
lmao you should try harder, retard

>>24722
dubs of >>24720 is a faggot cuck writing posts I will not read

Summaryanon here.
https://ponepaste.org/9926
Paste is finally updated! Besides being made up to date, it's main improvement is the addition of precise dates (whenever possible) to the events. Also a QnA section.
As always, suggestions and corrections (both factual and grammatical) are always welcome.
For now, I have two questions, if anyone can answer:
1. What time zone does KiwiFarms use?
2. Is it possible to see when precisely a user was banned on FimFiction?

>>24732
please can you tell me the name of the server princewhateverer runs. i wanna know

>>24732
>[As late as Jan 22 of 2024, probably earlier] Crackdowns on foalcon and rape stories begin on FimFetch, and only escalate further as time goes on.
The earliest report of stories being removed from FiMfetch I could find across multiple sites is this one from WyrmSpawN on Derpibooru, dated January 7: https://derpibooru.org/forums/art/topics/artists-you-miss?post_id=5567358#post_5567358
At the time, everyone assumed that it was just because of Patreon, which had already banned Fimfiction over story content.

Any earlier reports I could find were several years old and usually refer to stories being missing/outdated due to FiMFetch not scraping them properly in the first place, which is beyond the scope of this drama. (though it does further justify FoalFetch's existence, as most of those stories are now properly archived on it)

I also found a /mlp/ post dated December 24 which references one of the deleted stories: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/40657675/#q40668858
The post & replies would indicate that it was still available on FiMFetch at the time (the "deleted" in the post refers to it being removed from Fimfiction, not Fimfetch)
Note that it was a BLATANT foalcon story, so it would most certainly have been part of the first round of content purges.

There is also another /mlp/ post dated December 16 which clearly references a now deleted story: https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/40623136/#q40643648
(although this time it was for incest, which wasn't the first kind of content targeted)

This would place the big content purge sometime between December 24 and January 7.

>Is it possible to see when precisely a user was banned on FimFiction?
HK-FortySeven appears to have used the "last seen" date on DataByteBrony's Fimfiction profile, which does say "April 14th". You can actually get a full date & time by hovering on it.
Fimfiction doesn't give much information about bans. In fact, the mobile version of the profile page doesn't even show that a user is banned unless you check out their username from a different page.
Under other circumstances, the "last seen" date would be a poor indicator for when someone got banned. But here, that happened while the the drama was still very active, so there is a good enough chance that DataByte was regularly checking Fimfiction to see what others were saying in the Clopfics forum thread, right up until he got the ban. If that was the case, his "last seen" date & time would be just a few hours away from his actual ban date & time.

>>24734
It's hard to rely on obviousness to say a fic wouldn't be missed, as early in to noticing stuff about missing fics (around March 29th), I searched "foalcon" on FiMfetch and got the one Iron Will story I think titled something like "Iron Will's Foalcon Necrophilia Sex Rampage".
Whatever criteria Databyte was using was probably initially based on what Patreon told him, and reports from others, not searching his own site.
That is to say that it's possible the purge happened well before December 24th, we'd need clear evidence of a particular story disappearing somewhere before January 7th to place the start.

>>24734
you can still read the threads on fimfiction through
incognito mode and as for the likes of tour i have no idea.
basically his account being banned doesn't mean he wasn't paying attention elsewhere.

>>24732
>>24732
He was banned between April 4th and April 16th. I'd assume they banned their account when he got banned from the Discord server, which was on the 15th.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240404175115/https://www.fimfiction.net/user/62188/DataByteBrony
https://web.archive.org/web/20240416195222/https://www.fimfiction.net/user/62188/DataByteBrony

>>24733
It's his own personal server, can find it on his socials

>>24738
thanks the das list worded so ominously.
if you were wondering.

i can confirm that Allyster Black is indeed in jail.

the fimfetch patreon i back up and running

Summaryanon here.
>>24750
Wanted to post that :(
On a brighter note, when comparing to his previous patreon income, he makes ~2 dollars less! WOW!
https://iwiftp.yerf.org/Pony/Miscellaneous/Fan-made/FimFetch%20meltdown/Screenshot%202024-04-02%20at%2002-13-50%20Get%20more%20from%20FimFetch.net%20Fiction%20Archive%20on%20Patreon.png

>>24751
Wait, should've posted a pic too

>>24752
>59.3 euro a month
why anyone cared about this in the first place tbh

Summaryanon here.
So, I've been rather lazy with updating the paste recently (especially since everything's developing rather slowly now).
However, that's not the point. The point is: around yesterday, this lack of updating caused a brief misunderstanding on FimFiction. Sorry 'bout that.
In other news: DataBytes now makes 26.65€ per month, or a decrease of a whopping 32.65€ (about ~55%) from before.

Made a lil' meme. Had a bit of a problem properly screenshotting it though, so it's a bit cut off at the right edge.

Still going BTW

>>24794
Can I has an invite to the anti-PCL discord? [darkdoomer] haven't had time to pay much attention to it lately, sorry bout this.

>>24794
since my banning from G5, EQD and Manechat, i've seen my interest in MLP take a nosedive

>>24834
Love mares for the sake of mares, you don't need anyone else

>>24794
The pedo thread got quickly taken over, supposed to be a literal exposing, counter thread as if the PCL had anything to post, turns out it has clarified more than an attempt at harming the discord users.

‘‘Yes /mlpol/ will be offended and will not take time to check anything, they won''tt read the logs or the cherrypicked screencaps’’

Summaryanon here.
https://ponepaste.org/9926
https://ponepaste.org/10241
So, the last reply left here was on June 14th, huh? Quite some time has passed (nearly two months), with basically nothing major happening at all. I am reminded of the few initial concerns (ones which followed us throughout the entirety of this drama, in fact) that DataBytes, the PCL, and the rest of the clique will simply... stop. In order for conflict to continue, there has to be "fuel". In the beginning, we had plenty of it: nearly each day, some new, intriguing information would come out, responses and counter-responses would be made, even the occasional art or fic would be posted. Alas, for quite some time now, all that we've been left with is merely watching FimFetch's Patreon slowly recover. At the very best, we get to see some shenanigans from those anti-paedophile-thread anons or an off-hand mention lamenting the state of things. Many have let go, went off to other ventures, and just... forgot about it all.

This... "forgetting". As I wrote up not only this post, but also the pastes, I realised just how much 2 months is in internet discourse. And it's not just forgetting: it's also making things up out of nowhere, these "false", or perhaps "corrupted" memories. For example: I remember there being a semi-concrete number of members that were necessary in order for one to join the PCL. I did not find it. Those initial concerns I mentioned? Could not precisely find them, but I'm confident they exist. I remember the report channel being archived: alas, I could only find the scam report and report discussion ones. I've forgotten the time zones used across various sites. At this point, I'm not sure if I can say with confidence which of the posts here or on 4chan were mine (I didn't sign all of them, after all, kek), and which were by other people.

Regardless, this will not be over for as long as we do not let it be over. The archives that we have still are likely to contain incriminating information, and it's only a matter of time before someone looks into them. The silence on the PCL's behalf, and that on DataBytes clique's, won't last forever. Eventually, someone will speak up. If not them, then a wistleblower or some other associate.

Anyway, sorry for the Reddit spacing (I think it makes my ramblings just a bit more readable) and if that was too melodramatic. Though sparse, some things did happen over the span of this thread's inactivity. I'll just quote from the new summary paste:
>[06/11/24(Tue)21:29:11 UTC] A new thread gets posted on /mlpol/ about a certain incident on /mlp/ involving a deceased minor, which is outside the scope of this summary. The /mlpol/ thread has the same writing style and tone as the paedophilia thread, which, alongside the subject matter, shows a highly probable connection between the two. Though it didn't devolve into utter chaos, it still failed to produce any particularly important results on either side of the conflict, and ultimately went nowhere, despite a (relatively) decent-enough start. The last post on it was made on 06/14/24(Fri)14:57:21 UTC, making it last for just three days.
>[07/02/24(Tue)21:32:12 UTC] After a long time of non-existing, despite various notable occurrences happening (e.g. NHNB going down, new Derpibooru policy, the Ponybooru fiasco...), the Fan Site Alternative Thread goes back up. Updates on Foalfetch development are easily accessable once more!
>[07/30/24(Tue)23:04:26 UTC] A new paste is published here by yours truly on rebutting the claims made in the Foalcon Advisory's current text, i.e. the "Public Notice".

There was also an update to the paste that I did not inform this thread of, but you can find the changes made then on the Fan Site Alternative Thread.
/mlpol/ thread in question: https://mlpol.net/sp/24805
New Fan Site Alternative Thread: https://boards.4chan.org/mlp/thread/41203976
New paste/rebuttal: https://ponepaste.org/10241 (also linked in the beginning of this post)

In other news: I finally discovered/understood what the "pastedown" option in Ponepaste is and how it works. I've experimented a bit with applying it to the Public Notice rebuttal, but, to be honest, I prefer the way it currently stands. With that said, for quite some time now, I've had this idea of a "bronydom/horsefuckery glossary", and I think pastedown would be a rather good fit for it (of course, a separate, independent Wiktionary-like site would perhaps be even better, but I don't really have the resources or the know-how to run it).

>>24884
Since DataByte made his list private I suspect whatever is still going on is going on behind closed doors now.

>>24885
Given how The List is still (as far as we know) actively developed, there probably is, yeah.
On a side note, spotted two small spelling/copying/writing/whatever mistakes in the OTPN (On the [so-called] Public Notice, that's how I'll shorten it from now on), and fixed them. Also clarified the TODO part at the end.
If anyone sees any other spelling mistakes, or otherwise has suggestions that are not already planned (see TODO at the end of the OTPN), do inform about them.

so, we are approaching 6 months since the list leaked and it feels like the PCL won... Databyte, Daring and PhoenixFire have seemingly gotten away with it scot free

>>24990
Wow, how incentivising

>>24991
well, given that Databyte and Daring are still seemingly still running the list now behind closed doors and Phoenix ruling the roost ever in EQD, can you really blame me for coming to the conclusion that they won?

>>24994
What would your preferred outcome be?

>>24885
What did he won? Nothing. Unless being ridiculed, doxed, having his ass stalked by /mlp/, 8ch, farmers and oldfags I wonder who in his right mind could call this a win.

>>24990
>>24994
The drama has died down because there's only so long you can expect people to sustain interest in something like this, but I hardly think the PCL "won."

What this whole thing basically proved is that the pony fandom is fracturing along the same fault lines as everything else in Western society, in that on the one hand you have nor/mlp/eople who just want to enjoy what they enjoy and otherwise be left alone, and on the other you have this neo-puritan cult of performative morality that appeals to busybodies and status-seekers. Unsurprisingly, the latter is full of narcissists and mental defectives who practice a different set of rules behind closed doors than what they preach to the world.

In the end, I think what happened is exactly what should have happened. DataByte and his cronies were exposed and publicly humiliated, which is what that sort of person fears more than anything else, and an alternative to FimFetch was created. It's the same as with the derpibooru drama: a circlejerk made up of self-aggrandizing jackoffs grew too accustomed to the idea of themselves as gatekeepers of an essential service, and started censoring content against the wishes of the fan community they purported to serve. Fans and artists flipped them off, and then went off and made their own boorus with blackjack and hookers. What it proves is that no service is "essential" unless it's providing something of actual value; as soon as it starts gatekeeping or censoring content, it is no longer essential. It also proves that since it's honestly not that fucking hard to slap a website together these days, any "essential" service can be independently replaced at the drop of a dime. FoalFetch was up and running within a few days of the "List" drama breaking.

>Databyte and Daring are still seemingly still running the list now behind closed doors
Who cares? Let them. I don't give a fuck if a couple of my alts are on some faggot's private shitlist and neither should you. These guys have been publicly humiliated, and they've lost whatever relevance and goodwill they might have had within the fandom, that's punishment enough. Hopefully they at least enjoyed the pizza.

If they still want to run their private servers and go around calling themselves "community leaders" there's not much anyone can do to stop them, but they only have as much power as the community is willing to give them. If derpibooru is pozzed, use ponerpics. If FimFetch is pozzed, use FoalFetch. If Trotcon is pozzed, go to MareFair. Decentralization is your friend.

>Phoenix ruling the roost ever in EQD
Does anyone even still give a fuck about EQD?

>>24999
I was looking for the image "a mentally retarded man on death row" acting like a winner. If ever the PCL believe he won anything. Like it's a game; we all well know this is not, it is a potential defamation case and be glad that the community is infinitely kind, others would have sued the owner of this site for false claims.
They know they fucked up and agreed to keep the list private.
So yeah they reap what they sow. DB still believe in his thing but started to lock things and delete info (too late) and still lurks around places like Kiwifarms monitoring threads pertaining to animal control and fandom drama. Spoilers: it does not happens here, they should know it. They have their methods, we have ours, the boomers around him on social networks by example.

>>24999
Phoenix's server, while it's the official EqD server, is not the same thing as EqD itself. EqD itself seems to be fine even with saucy stuff about minors, but Phoenix's server has supposedly gone into a mode similar to Databyte's Bronytales now. From my sources, this runs counter to what Phoenix even truly wants, so is probably his underlings being swept up by Databyte's influence.
All in all, it's a small corner of the fandom. The time to worry would be if these asshats start to use their pull to get con organizers to use the list.

PonePaste needs polish in the "BRIEFED VERSION":
"It is lead by DataBytes." DataByte, no s. This is an issue in several places.
"he publishes a report" They didn't intentionally publish publicly, as stupid as that is. They seriously thought just not linking it publicly meant it wouldn't be found.
"All of the users listed in this document are either involved in some way with the consumption, creation, promotion, and/or distribution of material that sexualizes children, or have shown in some capacity to not be safe to have in a server with minors." Um...did DataByte write this? The List explicitly covers things beyond foalcon itself, and even has artists listed for their work being edited into foalcon. And the last sentence is just taking their side, as if Imalou and Selenophile are known sexual predators, not just artists, for being on the list.
"the list created by the PCL is different then the one of DataBytes" PCL had no single list, as the next line clarifies (the brief summary really shouldn't need later lines to clarify false statements in prior ones). 'Then' should be 'then', and the grammar is bizarre. It should probably be "PCL's report listings are not the same as the FiMfetch list".
"DataBytes's patreon gets temporarily suspended." I'm pretty sure he was permabanned on FiMfiction too, a much bigger deal.

>>25035
Summaryanon here.
>DataByte, no s
Writing it as Databytes is a conscious decision. And it's not "several places", it's more like "everywhere outside of quotes or explanations". I'm not sure exactly why I write it like that (over half a year has passed since the paste was initially posted, my memory's kinda fuzzy), but I don't think it's without reason.
>"he publishes a report"
Wording changed in that section, but still kept on what is currently line 82.
With that said, keep in mind that there's some debate whether or not The List was actually intended to be published public at one point or another (see https://www.fimfiction.net/group/12/clopfics/thread/536499/fimfetch-owner-declares-jihad-on-foalcon-doxes-hundreds-of-users#comment/7961779 , more specifically, HK-FortySeven's note on the "general release" off-hand comment in the original text of The List)
>Um...did DataByte write this?
Yes, there's a "To quote:" before this line, which itself is in greentext to indicate that it is a quote.
>The List explicitly covers things beyond foalcon itself, and even has artists listed for their work being edited into foalcon. And the last sentence is just taking their side, as if Imalou and Selenophile are known sexual predators, not just artists, for being on the list.
The line immediately after this reads: "The methodology used in the report is deeply flawed, essentially equating to a witch hunt". What you say is true, and examples are shown throughout the summary (my favourite one is >get in The List for SPONGEBOB COPYPASTA)
> PCL had no single list, as the next line clarifies (the brief summary really shouldn't need later lines to clarify false statements in prior ones).
Fair enough. Wording changed, lines merged.
>'Then' should be 'then'
Kek. I get what you mean, fixed.
>grammar is bizarre. It should probably be "PCL's report listings are not the same as the FiMfetch list".
ESLbros...
I'll keep things as is for now (with then corrected to than, of course), as it doesn't sound that off to me.
>I'm pretty sure he was permabanned on FiMfiction too, a much bigger deal.
FimFetch doesn't show ads, so Patreon is the only way (besides paying out of pocket) that it stays afloat; having FimFetch's only real source of income being taken away is, at least I'd say, more important than having an obscure barely-active personal account banned.

I'd write more, but it's late here, so I'll prob' update the summary as a whole (since there were in fact new, albeit sparse events that happened since the summary was last updated, including a new story on FimFiction IIRC), tomorrow.

>>25080
you know, at the end of the day, let Daring and Data keep updating the list, they're just digging their own graves by going full retard, and im saying this as someone on the list and got banned from a few servers because of it and the resulting doxxing that happened to daring, databyte and phoenix