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Psychedelics have shown benefits in a few clinical studies, but those aren't something you should fuck around with. Yes they can help some people, but under the wrong circumstances they can really damage a person.
>>16256>Indeed. If I remember correctly some shrooms can also have you go on a trip far after a person has taken them. Years later.
You are talking about LSD because mushrooms only stay in you for about 2 weeks, i have never had any hallucinations beyond that point, and it does say some people that have taken LSD have experienced hallucinations years later.
It mainly depends on the person as every one has a different brain even those of the same family so some people aren't cut out for it but most of those studies revolve around people with a already existing mental illness or are forced in a controlled environment which is the exact opposite of where it should be taken as when under heavy psychedelics like DMT and you are being questioned by men in lab coats it is difficult to keep worry out of your head when you are under, as those men will transform into Dr Connors from spiderman or animals or something so if you imagine it, it seems funny but at the same time horrifying because that's what they look like to you.
There are some study's and experiments which are done in a environment that is suitable for the consumption of psychedelics and those are usually the ones with the best results.
They are mainly a spiritual enhancer or the minds version of steroids as they help the mind grow and be the best it can be, so you shouldn't be a idiot with them as you wouldn't mix bleach and vinegar together unless you wanted something bad to happen
It all depends on their personality, mindset and place if someone isn't relaxed going into them then it's not a good idea to take them if you are not in a relaxed or open environment or mindset, you wouldn't want to take LSD in the middle of WW1 while being shouted at by your officer and guns and shells are flying as obviously it wouldn't be a good idea at all.>>16263
Yeah psilocybe mushrooms are more or less on the shallow part of psychedelics but you can have a powerful trip with a high dose like when someone takes a dose of psilocybe semilanceata (which is about 25 to 30 mushrooms) while having never taken them before are usually the results with the most amount of paranoia in the patients so i do not recommend high doses of them if you have never taken them before, there is also Amanita muscaria which is another magic mushroom that contains different types of hallucinogens which are stronger than that of psilocybin.
>>16264>like DMT and you are being questioned by men in lab coats it is difficult to keep worry out of your head when you are under
Not DMT but LSD creates this sort of perception, DMT sends you somewhere else entirely.
Nigger, I've taken acid and mushrooms more times than you've masturbated. I appreciate that you've had a good experience and all, but you're a little green to be doing an AMA. And you should word things very carefully. I'm sure anons on mlpol arent gonna do anything stupid, but the wrong g thi g said around an impressionable person can set them on a course that's bad. I'm not trying to get you to assume responsibility for other people, but I am trying to impress on you how impressionable people can be, and unless you're ready to act as a guide, I wouldn't go dramatically retelling your experiences. You are of course, free to disagree/disregard
>>16266>Nigger, I've taken acid and mushrooms more times than you've masturbated.
kek, alright Mr mushroom.>I appreciate that you've had a good experience and all, but you're a little green to be doing an AMA.
You are right that i cannot explain everything just yet as time will show if i can answer those questions.>And you should word things very carefully.
I try my best but i am not literate all the time, especially under those plants, as you would expect someone to be under them, i try thinking about what i should write before i send it but mistakes are made on delivery that i will try to stop.>I'm sure anons on mlpol aren't gonna do anything stupid, but the wrong thing said around an impressionable person can set them on a course that's bad
People can decide what do with themselves but the promise of these hallucinogens are worth talking about enough to me that i feel like they should be talked about instead of ignored, as they are not talked about that often around here. If someone gets addicted to weed than that is due to their own incompetence but weed is not that great by itself like leftists and blind men claim it to be, if someone can't control themselves on LSD and does something which they couldn't control then they can decide for themselves whether or not it is for them.>I'm not trying to get you to assume responsibility for other people, but I am trying to impress on you how impressionable people can be, and unless you're ready to act as a guide, I wouldn't go dramatically retelling your experiences.
I should tell people about my experiences since they are enlightening and people shouldn't be in the dark about psychedelics since they were a tool of my ancestors that they used for spiritual purposes so i use them like they did in the hope that i can create a bond with those who are forgotten and make myself better than before, people are gullible since we are social beings but they should always think instead of letting their emotions tell them what to do but i cannot help those who use only one part of their brain but I guess i can act as a shaman if you wanna do it like that anon, i am open.>You are of course, free to disagree/disregard
If we didn't believe in freedom we wouldn't be here talking about this but we are so let's engage in word throwing.
Ah, I get it. You dont care for responsibility, knowledgeability, or any of that tedious 'knowing what you're talking about through experience' nonsense, you just wanna grandstand cuz you had a good trip. Carry on
>>16268>You dont care for responsibility, knowledgeability, or any of that tedious 'knowing what you're talking about through experience' nonsense, you just wanna grandstand cuz you had a good trip.
You are misinterpreting me, i have taken mushrooms more than merely once, i have experience with them i wouldn't talk about them if i knew nothing about them, like i said it is one persons choice what they do with themselves, i am not a puppet master, if you read what i posted you will know i am not inexperienced.>>16245>I have had experience with them but i do not think they are for everybody, some people are more paranoid than others so they are not the best of people to try them, i have had extended usage of them so i have an idea of what they are capable of so that is why i advocate the use of Psychedelics.>I have tried them numerous times under different circumstances and i have had a few bad trips that are fundamentally bad but the things i experience under them is indescribably 'magical' i see into other peoples minds and know what they are thinking and what they are going to say next, i see into the future and feel both past and present, then there is also the pleasure and spiritual wisdom that comes from them.
what do you know about them if you claim to know more than i do? Or are you just shit posting?
Lesson #1. Perception of reality =/= experience of reality. Mushrooms are notable for causing feelings and perceptions. Precognition, comprehension of inevitability, ESP and other such things are not uncommon. But they are phenomenal, and neither endemic nor reliably consistent.
Try focusing on what your e experiences taught you, and less on the actual experience. Yes, it was otherworldly and exciting, but the point of it was not to be otherworldly and exciting. Mushrooms are a knowledgeable spirit, and it will teach you things if you let it.
>>16270>Perception of reality =/= experience of reality. Mushrooms are notable for causing feelings and perceptions. Precognition, comprehension of inevitability, ESP and other such things are not uncommon.
Okay so you are telling me things i already know, thanks for refreshing my mind anyways.>But they are phenomenal, and neither endemic nor reliably consistent.
That's right>Try focusing on what your experiences taught you, and less on the actual experience.>Yes, it was otherworldly and exciting, but the point of it was not to be otherworldly and exciting.
That is the whole point of what i am doing them for, i don't do them for the sake of pleasure or for a kick, i am interested in what they can teach me, that is the way the Druids treated them like, to obtain power and insight into the world. They have taught me that i am not alone and the power of the mind, spirit and soul.>Mushrooms are a knowledgeable spirit, and it will teach you things if you let it.
Yes, they are keys to the gate of higher conscious.
Lesson #2. Dont kiss and tell
Your experience(s) are irrelevant. To wit, they have as much validity as dreams do. Being the dreamer, your dreams are or can be quite significant,... to you. They were not meant for others, else they would be part and parcel to them. They are not evidence, they're just stories, a means to convey an idea,... to you.
>>16272>Your experience(s) are irrelevant.
I disagree knowledge should be shared not hidden.>To wit, they have as much validity as dreams do.
That is due to ignorance and how much someone is willing to listen.>Being the dreamer, your dreams are or can be quite significant,... to you.
I don't know i have dreams that are usually fantastical, i have never truly had a dream that told me anything important.>They were not meant for others, else they would be part and parcel to them.
That is expected, it would mean more to someone if i had a crystal ball>They are not evidence, they're just stories, a means to convey an idea,... to you.
Then why do the things i think about happen later at some point if they are not evidence? Are they just stories if i have proof?
Experience =/= knowledge. Experience is like an unfinished blade. Sure, it has shape and structure, but it needs to be tempered and refined to make a live, functional blade. Likewise, a bunch of experiences are not knowledge, they're a cluster of asymmetrical ideas and sensory data that may(?)correlate, with time and effort.
Your response suggests that you feel that not relaying your experiences is tantamount to information repression which is,... premature and a bit on the grandiose side.>I have never had a dream that told me anything important
Have you tried paying attention? You're effectively suggesting that your own dreams have nothing useful to convey, but hardcore drugs (to some) do?
Lesson #3 Everything is a dream. Your experience with shrooms? A dream. Your experience while sleeping? A dream. You sitting at your device reading this post right now? A dream.
Why do you feel that mushrooms give you a more valid experience than your own dreams? Perhaps that's the wrong question, let me rephrase. Why are you more receptive to the experience using mushrooms than without?
I have nothing to say about the first part of your post.>Your response suggests that you feel that not relaying your experiences is tantamount to information repression which is,... premature and a bit on the grandiose side.
To not talk about my experiences is not what i would do, secrecy is not always the right thing to do and i feel like this is important.>Have you tried paying attention? You're effectively suggesting that your own dreams have nothing useful to convey, but hardcore drugs (to some) do?
Alright i know that dreams have meaning and wisdom can be found within them, just i have tried Lucid dreaming but it never worked for me and whenever i try look into the meaning of my dreams they seem too outside of anything to have great meaning to me, that's why i disregard my dreams most of the time.>Everything is a dream. Your experience with shrooms? A dream. Your experience while sleeping? A dream. You sitting at your device reading this post right now? A dream.
Why do you feel that mushrooms give you a more valid experience than your own dreams? >Why are you more receptive to the experience using mushrooms than without?
In my experience psychedelics are far easier to understand for me and contain more wisdom than any of my dreams ever did. I cannot understand my dreams as they usually are about the most weirdest things and most of the time just make me laugh when i try understand them, whereas Psychedelics are the opposite for me.
>>16275>not telling everyone = secrecy
Theres totally no self aggrandisement in that statement>I know dreams have meaning and stuff, but thats hard. It's easier to just dose myself.>Why do you feel mushrooms = more valid
That's precisely my point! Why do you
feel they're more valid? Mushrooms are a guide, not a private tutor. They're something to be learned from, not something to be relied/depended on. My dreams tell me everything I need to know.
Protip: dream analysis is identical to creative writing analysis.
>>16276>That's precisely my point! >Why do you feel they're more valid?
Dreams are not the same as them, my dreams don't have a story they are mashed up circuses of emotions and to understand them is like trying to pick apart something that doesn't have a story, i never truly have understood them, some people don't have dreams as well so everyone dreams differently from person to person, as psychedelics effect people differently from person to person.
Funnily enough i feel more grounded in reality than i do in dream as they are more wacky than mushrooms are for me.
You rely on dreams, i don't and i don't think we do not have the same dreams at all.>Mushrooms are a guide, not a private tutor.
Yes i do not rely on them for everything as that is unwise but they are a tool for me that i use to help me on this spiritual path.>They're something to be learned from, not something to be relied/depended on.
Why not? Does it really matter if i go against taboos if i get consistent rewards? I learn from them and i am able to increase the power of my mind under them so why should i stop if i know that i am fully capable of harnessing my mind while taking them?>My dreams tell me everything I need to know.
You are fine to use dreams for whatever, i have tried numerous times and got negative results from them.>dream analysis is identical to creative writing analysis.
I know this but it has never helped me analyze mine.
Dreams to me are not very informative about anything even if i try analyze them for weeks, i have had wet dreams as well as 'normal' dreams but all of them have no plot to inspect, things just sort of happen in them and have no meaning other than usually the implication that they are pleasurable and funny.
If your dreams are a jumbled mess, that doesnt bode well for the state of your mind anon and dismissing dreams as useless is a frivolous and indulgent rationale to avoid taking an honest look. What's more, you're adopting a disposition of immediate gratification versus delayed gratification. No wonder she hasn't introduced herself, you dishonor yourself wilfully. Do as you will, I've made my case.
>>16278>If your dreams are a jumbled mess, that doesn't bode well for the state of your mind anon and dismissing dreams as useless is a frivolous and indulgent rationale to avoid taking an honest look.
I do not dismiss my dreams as fully unintelligible, they have been this way for a long time before i touched psychedelics and my dreams are more refined and easier to remember on hallucinogens but i still don't truly understand them but i do remember them, the dream i had last night was about a herd of wild horses terrorizing this town (just mainly wouldn't let people leave) in the mist and all the women were trying to make them stop and the men wanted to kill them but the horses wouldn't return to their fields so they ran away when the people of the town couldn't take it anymore.
I do not mean to be ignorant about my dreams they just don't mean a lot to me.>What's more, you're adopting a disposition of immediate gratification versus delayed gratification.
I have practiced magic for a while before i took mushrooms and the way that it worked before i took them wasn't as powerful or didn't work as well as i had hoped but when i started doing magic and mushrooms together i almost instantly developed a sort of magical aura wherever i went and my spells were exactly how i wanted them to go, if i stopped using them i don't think i would be totally bothered as they are not addicting.>No wonder she hasn't introduced herself, you dishonor yourself willfully.
I do not see how i am dishonoring myself if i am trying to live in the best image of myself that i can be but if i knew this wasn't meant for me i would stop. How am i doing something evil if i am able to be better in all my efforts with the addition of some natural plants that won't kill me but will only make me better? The only thing i am doing wrong is not adhering to the cultural efforts of Christianity but even then i am not a satanist just some pagan mcnigger and i am disobeying the laughable law. I have been in touch with multiple deities and spirits to say i am dishonoring myself is a lie, if you believe that i am somehow dishonoring myself by becoming spiritually connected with myself than i only see that you just want me to stop what i believe is right for me or you see me as some crazed Celt loaded with mushrooms, kek.
My case is closed, i do not wish to tongue tie myself any further in a debate over fucking dreams.
I also made sure i remembered that dream for you, so you can be my dream detective.
Thank you for the informative posts. Have some good poners. Dreams are always fun to interpret, ranging from meaningless to the complex multidimentional minecraft chess. Sometimes with messages deeply personal, or specifically designed for some other time. In any case.
It's nice to have more friendly magic users in the world.>>16278
I'd also argue some dreams are not what they seem and exploring them further can be malicious. Cognito hazards are rare, and having any kind of will or experience can over come those small snares.>adopting a disposition of immediate gratification versus delayed gratification
There is a time and place for each.>you dishonor yourself
I'd argue he is honorable. Although I shouldn't be one to judge.
Doing what you can with what you have to maximize what you can do for the betterment of what you want to do. At least that's my two cents on it. I appreciate your concern.
>>16281>Thank you for the informative posts. Have some good poners.>It's nice to have more friendly magic users in the world.>I'd argue he is honorable. Although I shouldn't be one to judge.>It's nice to have more friendly magic users in the world.
Thank you anon, i think i have been letting loneliness get over me as of recent as to the anomaly of my posts being so common, i only just realized this.It's been a while since i've seen my favorite mare.pun not intended>Dreams are always fun to interpret, ranging from meaningless to the complex multidimensional minecraft chess
Yeah i have had a lot bizarre dreams that really make me think of how abnormal and strange they are. especially if i have a wet dream after mushrooms.>Sometimes with messages deeply personal, or specifically designed for some other time
Yeah i have had a couple of really weird dreams that are really emotional but it's been a long time since one of them. >Doing what you can with what you have to maximize what you can do for the betterment of what you want to do.
Yes they are what i consider to make me enter a sort of magical radio.
T. the Grand Potato Wizard of the KKK
Just drunk posting some random music https://youtu.be/Cd4cmNjm-Fo
Okay i am currently well and truly in the zone so i wanna post a guide here for what i am currently on.
I tried dark chocolate (90%) with the mushrooms at the same time as i was researching what are good Monoamine oxidase inhibitors to induce stronger effects and create a stronger trip so i ate a small dose of the mushrooms (5 of them) and i am experiencing lots of feels right now, all of them are positive.
I feel a wave of energy flow all through my nerve ends and feel very wakeful and upbeat while i am having lots of creative thoughts, i didn't expect this to turn out as well as it has but i had 2 squares of the chocolate with the liberty caps, i took the cannabis oil about an hour and a half before the chocolate and mushrooms.
The hallucinations i am experiencing are the brightening of colors and shapes are more easily recognized, closed eye hallucinations are like waves of rainbows going from one side to the other.
I have a great appreciation of myself and my surroundings.
I'm back on the same stuff, except this time i had 3 squares and 10 mushrooms with the oil.
This stuff is some of the strongest shit i have ever been able to feel, i can feel pulses going through my nerves as i can feel my whole system of nerves being given energy, it's very peaceful but i know that i am alone which is sort of looming over me because i want to be with Fionn again, there is many things to worry about but i don't give a fuck as i have left that bullshit behind.
I feel almost complete, there is more to be found within myself but i am currently at a turning point to power, i feel whole but not the full loaf of bread yet, the tingling is very pleasurable and i can also feel all the organs of myself, the brain is the most heaviest feeling, it's hard to describe.
I could do an AMA as i am not currently at peak yet.
What do you fags want to know?
I feel free metaphorically speaking i have a sense of release like i am in tune with my personal radio.
I am experiencing quite a lot of hallucinations, everything looks sort of distorted and melds together, it feels humble and nice.
r8 my sunday morning sesh
Drugs and alcohol. A messy dirty car.>>>/ub/
Its Hitler's birthday, you know what to do
I don't like baguettes, sir.
Not exactly drunken on alcohol, chance per say, alternatively high on liberty caps, 6 to be precise about 4 hours ago.
The visuals aren't as intriguing when compared to higher doses of these mushrooms, it's more of a body feeling mixed with dizziness, limbs feel fluent and free opposed to otherwise being sober. The feet aren't as coordinated and a sense of comfortable numbness lingers alongside the sensations, inside my mind I still retain some manners of comprehension but my environment is funnier than it ought or meant to be, ha ha ha. I guess that I'm thinking deeper about recent previous events than regularly.
I've had around 40 of these shrooms a couple weeks ago but this time it isn't as intense, my surroundings appear to glow rather than morph or move like they were a couple trips before, it was bewildering to lay witness upon such strange patterns turning into ambiguous symbols.
On the come down now, drank some black magic tea to revitalize myself.
Drinking a very fine tequila ($60 in mexico, who knows in the us (easily 100/bottle) while making venison OK onion smashburgers (80/20, w/ beef fat) with a 1/4ea blend of Gruyere, Brie, Bleu, and Parmeseano reggie cheese slices
Fresh-baked kaiser rolls, toasted w/ avocado mayo, and
red onions instead of yellow (more robust, to balance venison)
I've been drunk every time I posted on this site and I'm always drunk. This thread is now my property by right of virtue.>>18658
Based venison and tequila anon. I hate to admit it, but tequila is my favorite clear liquor and it's superior to vodka. You can actually get really good "tequila" that's just given a generic name since some faggots in Mexico sue anyone who makes blue agave liquor and calls it "tequila". You can find decent stuff for $20 if you look hard enough.
Oh, and ground venison is great for chili. I try go hunting every year and I always cut and season my own venison. Stuff's great when ground and the backstrap and loins are delicious cooking.>>18544
I've found shrooms growing out of cow and horse shit before. Always regretting not picking and cleaning them.
t. Stereotypical Texan Anon
STFU lazy-kike-ass proto nigger. Get wasted in peace or gtfo
Whiter than you and I have more fun. Fight me, faggot. I have offered something of value to this thread, something you wouldn't understand, "nigger".
You're subhuman and non-white if you can't handle yourself under intoxicants. Suck my cock, pussy.
>>18659>I've found shrooms growing out of cow and horse shit before.
Typically, they tend to be edible rather than containing the psychedelic psilocybin constituent of the fungus which sprouts from that of sheep shit as opposed to horse crap. I've seen both of them myself from the Bovines and Equines feces by roaming fields in search of the delicacy and mucking out stables or moving mountains of pony fertilizer with pitchforks as well as shovels.>Always regretting not picking and cleaning them.
I wouldn't since they have no value in my eyes and the cleansing is more time consuming than obtaining far more appealing fungi, that and potentially ingesting the byproducts of horse defecation's which could be allowing worm eggs to fester in myself such as tapeworm or red worm.
I should say that I've only seen them in shit a higher altitudes in Texas. I meant, I have specifically seen musacaria on a few rare occasions.
Isn't the standard procedure to bake shrooms for a certain amount of time before ingesting them? Not like I would eat them directly out of livestock shit. I would genuinely appreciate any advice in this regard despite not being a ranch hand anymore.
>>18663>I should say that I've only seen them in shit a higher altitudes in Texas.
Differences in the height above sea level influences the varieties of them, there are mushrooms which grow in forests next to the ocean along with others which spawn a lot higher than that.>I meant, I have specifically seen musacaria on a few rare occasions.
Well then, I do know that several potently poisonous ones of the amanita family do tend to grow in shit, although the amanita's of the Americas are not so much to my knowing, the muscaria of 'murica I believe appears to be more yellow than it's red cousin.>Isn't the standard procedure to bake shrooms for a certain amount of time before ingesting them?
Depends on the certain type, Amanita Muscaria has to be dried to decarboxylate the Ibotenic acid into Muscimol to get rid of the neurotoxin so that it can be used for the psychoactive properties. >Not like I would eat them directly out of livestock shit.
Psilocybin Semilanceata can be eaten directly out of the ground so long as it's not directly in contact with the ewe feces it grows nearby to but it's advised to prepare them beforehand to consumption, even if I don't really care about the raw taste or waiting for them to dry.>I would genuinely appreciate any advice in this regard despite not being a ranch hand anymore.
From a stable hand to ex ranch hand, I hope you understand what grows out of the land.
Ive been ITT since '17 fgt, go fuck yourself about right of virtue, AND with your 'contributions'
Thanks for the educational reply, Anon.>From a stable hand to ex ranch hand, I hope you understand what grows out of the land
From one former agricultural worker to another, I wish I did, too. I definitely wasn't trained by the best. I've sheered sheep before, but I never came across obvious Musacaria, Ironically.>>18667
No ones cares about you autistic flex. As I've told you before; suck my cock.