Hi anon! We reformed the rule set! Check it out here
https://mlpol.net/policy
>What was wrong with the old set?
So very, very many things
To start off, it was not made on mlpol.net. It was made on April 2, 2017, on the merged board of 4chan. It was never made for this website, nor any independent site, and it has no reflection to our situation. The vast majority of people who participated in that thread on 4chan are not here now, and do not use mlpol.net. Several of the rules in the old set were added by staff over the years and were never voted on.
Second, it has no bearing at all to rules as enforced and probably never has. The number one violation for which we issue bans is and long has been spam. Those little cyrilic bot posts with the ultra-low-resolution images. Tell me where in the old rule set it says "do not spam?" Pro-tip: it doesn't. A majority of all of our moderation enforcement has been against something that isn't even listed as against the rules. There is also no rule in it against off-board raiding - even though that is clearly the spirit of several of the rules - and off board raids have long been one of the dominant reasons for bans.
It worked the other way as well. The rule against "generals" was discarded in practical enforcement in the first year when we decided to allow Syria General to post on /mlpol/. Not long after this, anonfilly was invited after being kicked off of /mlp/. There's also that unstated rule 1 and rule 2. "Don't talk about /mlpol/." We realized within a month of April 2 that not advertising the board - which now was off of 4chan and was it's own website - was a bad idea.
The rule set had absolutely no rule against insufferable and obnoxious posters, and that was a rather big issue.
And you can't tell me it wasn't ungainly and long. It was two typed pages. That isn't useful.
The rule set was prone to misinterpretation, or at least, to give the wrong impression to newcomers. I met with a friend who didn't know I had anything to do with mlpol, and asked him what he thought about the altchans. He told me that mlpol.net and /poner/ was hampered by its banning of generals. A rule we have enfored... once? Ever? Back in the summer of 2017?
And yes, the rules lawyering around the "striped" thread was a factor. Rather than arguing actually relevant issues like whether or not the zebras having sex with twilight were a part of fetish, or posted with a deliberate intent to disrupt the board, instead time and energy is wasted arguing with people who in some cases had never used the board before that day over what degree the my little pony porn resembled some kind of thread that was spammed on the /pol/ board many years ago. That's not helpful.
>Why now? Why not after a long, lengthy process?
It should have been overhauled years ago. I have wanted to overhaul the rules for years. The primary reason we have not is because we didn't have an idea for how to codify a moderator response to what we considered to be edge cases - posters who seemed to be acting in good faith, but who were so horrifically and consistently obnoxious it ruined the experience for everyone around them. It wasn't until this year that I figured out the blanket term "disruptive" captures the essence of these edge cases, but also posting types we ban anyways, like off-board raiders and spam.
>But why now specifically?
Because now is the time that reforms that have been long put off are most needed.
>Why these rules?
I wanted the rules to do three things. One, to reflect actual enforcement and the needs of moderation. Two, to be rather limited, allow most posts to be permitted, and maximum freedom to posters. And three, be short and easy to understand. What we came up with, I think, does capture most circumstances where moderation action is needed, and does so in a succinct and easy to understand manner. Some of the rules could easily be split up into smaller rules, but still, it is a short list of rules.
>Why does the policy page say that the rule set is "under construction"?
Because that part of the policy page is probably going to be modified to include a description of the boards and any rules that might be specific to the board
>But shouldn't the community discuss the rules?
Well, this is the thread. Discuss it now. As stated, the rules were written to reflect actual enforcement. These are things that we have already discussed endlessly, including last year when there was a proposal to add a "lurk more" rule. And besides, if you haven't noticed, who the "community" even is right now is in a state of flux. The newcomers need a very simple set of rules that they can read, understand, and not misinterpret, and they need it now.
>Does this mean that /poner/ is not getting rules on porn?
Not necessarily. We've decided that we will give that a little more time to decide what to do. It's very unlikely that we are going to make /poner/ a completely blue board, but it's far from out of the question that we will add rules like no NSFW in the OP, no porn dumping, or require spoilers. If this is added, it will not be listed on the global rule set. It will be under the board specific rule set, which as of now has not been added.
>You're a faggot
no u
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>>9787
Why should we have flag/flagless versions of everything? ID's/flags seem much less important a distinction compared to politics and red/blue.
>>9789
The chaotic nature of the early internet should be kept alive, but we do need specific boundaries to keep the site itself from getting into trouble.
>>9787
Why should we have flag/flagless versions of everything? ID's/flags seem much less important a distinction compared to politics and red/blue.
>>9789
The chaotic nature of the early internet should be kept alive, but we do need specific boundaries to keep the site itself from getting into trouble.
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>>9792
A boardwide flags split is unnecessary and convoluted, fyi the site already has the function to disable or enable flags per thread. Disabling flags was requested for /poner/ on it's creation.
Pupper made a change for /opg/ silently >>189763 which means that everyboard should have the function if needed and it was just a way for less shitflinging breaking out between flag lines like /int/ and /pol/
To me it's nowhere near as important as red/blue especially under the wave of demoralizing posting that is pushing people to use /mlpol/ less. There's a line between apolitical and just anarchist, /poner/ is the latter atm which is off-putting to /mlp/ users but greatly incentivizing to /trash/post which is a win to shills.
nhnb definitely has users with a stuck up mentality that fetishes should be sent here, especially the more degenerate even though they have /clop/ Like kikes sending muslims over to other countries even when they're right next door. But at the same time the ones making horrible threads and posts here are obviously baiting for a reaction playing both sides. >>9391
>goes to mlpol
>You allow degen content, this is bad. everyone should go to nhnb
>goes to nhnb
>You don't allow degen content, this is bad everyone should go to mlpol
I'm hoping some new rules get rolled out sooner than later and this faggotry ends.
[Read more] A boardwide flags split is unnecessary and convoluted, fyi the site already has the function to disable or enable flags per thread. Disabling flags was requested for /poner/ on it's creation.
Pupper made a change for /opg/ silently >>189763 which means that everyboard should have the function if needed and it was just a way for less shitflinging breaking out between flag lines like /int/ and /pol/
To me it's nowhere near as important as red/blue especially under the wave of demoralizing posting that is pushing people to use /mlpol/ less. There's a line between apolitical and just anarchist, /poner/ is the latter atm which is off-putting to /mlp/ users but greatly incentivizing to /trash/post which is a win to shills.
nhnb definitely has users with a stuck up mentality that fetishes should be sent here, especially the more degenerate even though they have /clop/ Like kikes sending muslims over to other countries even when they're right next door. But at the same time the ones making horrible threads and posts here are obviously baiting for a reaction playing both sides. >>9391
>goes to mlpol
>You allow degen content, this is bad. everyone should go to nhnb
>goes to nhnb
>You don't allow degen content, this is bad everyone should go to mlpol
I'm hoping some new rules get rolled out sooner than later and this faggotry ends.
>>9789
Gross stuff is great as a shill deterent and if need arises we can re-spam the grossest stuff until shills leave.
>>9792
By recreating only a limited number of boards like /int/ and /mlp/ we can hope to accomodate refugees and introduce them to pony.
>>9794
Hopefully we get one flagless blue board without IDs to contrast with /mlpol/.
Gross stuff is great as a shill deterent and if need arises we can re-spam the grossest stuff until shills leave.
>>9792
By recreating only a limited number of boards like /int/ and /mlp/ we can hope to accomodate refugees and introduce them to pony.
>>9794
Hopefully we get one flagless blue board without IDs to contrast with /mlpol/.
>new ID.
>>9796
You can't bet on gross stuff being a shill deterrent when the shills are the ones posting it. Things aren't the same as they were, and there's been plenty of cases of shills using degenerate content to ruin boards. Ai especially is a great tool for a shill, no longer needing to pay a pajeet to pump out garbage edits manually, just pay them to do with with a gpu and it's faster than going to save a file off a database.
You can't bet on gross stuff being a shill deterrent when the shills are the ones posting it. Things aren't the same as they were, and there's been plenty of cases of shills using degenerate content to ruin boards. Ai especially is a great tool for a shill, no longer needing to pay a pajeet to pump out garbage edits manually, just pay them to do with with a gpu and it's faster than going to save a file off a database.
There are literally a hundred slopgens posted by a single user in the AI thread >>>/poner/532 → with themes that are obviously intended to sow discord. If this isn't breaking GR3 I don't know what does. Are the mods here actually going to do something about this?
>>9802
Doubt it. He'll just flood the thread with SFW slop. It's a butthurtartistautist who was already doing this back on 4chan.
Doubt it. He'll just flood the thread with SFW slop. It's a butthurt
>>9804
If it's flooding it's spamming and if it's not directed against shills we can have a rule declaring flooding a kind of spam.
If it's flooding it's spamming and if it's not directed against shills we can have a rule declaring flooding a kind of spam.
>>9801
Anon, posting AI generated pony images in a thread for AI generated pony images is not spam. That’s what the thread is there for. I am completely at a loss how exactly it is supposed to be spam. We’ve recorded multiple reports for spam. Most reports are for completely innocuous, completely normal looking posts.
I do see some posts that definitely look provocative and could be baiting. But no one reports them.
Anon, posting AI generated pony images in a thread for AI generated pony images is not spam. That’s what the thread is there for. I am completely at a loss how exactly it is supposed to be spam. We’ve recorded multiple reports for spam. Most reports are for completely innocuous, completely normal looking posts.
I do see some posts that definitely look provocative and could be baiting. But no one reports them.
>>9807
Oh it's contained. No problem with that. I was getting the implication the poster would start posting outside of the AI containment thread.
Oh it's contained. No problem with that. I was getting the implication the poster would start posting outside of the AI containment thread.
>>9807
I seriously don't understand what you want with this board. I mean, I hate NHNB's overly strict moderation, but what you propose for /poner/ seems to be plain anarchy.
A literal HUNDRED posts of the same slop posted in succession, and this is not obvious spam? Alright then.
I seriously don't understand what you want with this board. I mean, I hate NHNB's overly strict moderation, but what you propose for /poner/ seems to be plain anarchy.
A literal HUNDRED posts of the same slop posted in succession, and this is not obvious spam? Alright then.
>>9809
Flagless /mlpol/ would be great for anarchy and host its own anarchy MC server like a little 2b2t.
Flagless /mlpol/ would be great for anarchy and host its own anarchy MC server like a little 2b2t.
>>9807
>AI generated pony images in a thread for AI generated pony images is not spam.
>That’s what the thread is there for. I am completely at a loss how exactly it is supposed to be spam.
<mods need to be spoonfed to do any action.
Grim.
I'm surprised at how naïve the mods are here despite supposed to be able to recognize shilling from raids and 4chan style disingenuous posting on /pol/. I get that mlpol never really had the creative community to care about so you can't tell the difference but it does not bode well for health of longterm board.
If it's spoonfeeding you want, then you will get it and I will start preparing a big un
>>9808
Being contained isn't actually ok, it's just looking the other way while one side of the community is spammed to death. And this happens a lot.
[Read more] >AI generated pony images in a thread for AI generated pony images is not spam.
>That’s what the thread is there for. I am completely at a loss how exactly it is supposed to be spam.
<mods need to be spoonfed to do any action.
Grim.
I'm surprised at how naïve the mods are here despite supposed to be able to recognize shilling from raids and 4chan style disingenuous posting on /pol/. I get that mlpol never really had the creative community to care about so you can't tell the difference but it does not bode well for health of longterm board.
If it's spoonfeeding you want, then you will get it and I will start preparing a big un
>>9808
Being contained isn't actually ok, it's just looking the other way while one side of the community is spammed to death. And this happens a lot.
>>9818
In this case no, it merely takes on a different form as a jewish shapeshifting shitposter. The spammer is operating under this moronic logic Lotus is thinking with atm, that things are "on topic to the thread" so it can't ever be spam or shouldn't be removed since it's loosely following the OP.
Except the spammers are being disingenuous and Lotus is being dense as a brick. This sort of spam was incredibly pervasive in suffocating many /mlp/ threads on a blue board, and they know the consequences are usually thread-death as anon's abandon it when it's endless ai slop.
You will see what I mean soon enough when I'm done making the 1st spoonful.
In this case no, it merely takes on a different form as a jewish shapeshifting shitposter. The spammer is operating under this moronic logic Lotus is thinking with atm, that things are "on topic to the thread" so it can't ever be spam or shouldn't be removed since it's loosely following the OP.
Except the spammers are being disingenuous and Lotus is being dense as a brick. This sort of spam was incredibly pervasive in suffocating many /mlp/ threads on a blue board, and they know the consequences are usually thread-death as anon's abandon it when it's endless ai slop.
You will see what I mean soon enough when I'm done making the 1st spoonful.
>>9816
>>9807
>>9818
I return with a heaping spoonful.
It feels like I'm making one of those old warning posts on /trash/. It's really something how much of a FAGGOT this one is, and I'm merely scratching the surface on the ai art thread's spam. Only touching on the unapologetic behavior.
Not even going into the derails about communism he will sperg about when ai threads happen in general. Here's some damning quotes and patterns from this /b/troon ai spammer, and his buttbuddy(?) Who either samefags as admitted posting from a phone, or has backup to astroturf threads/boards suddenly, and there is high evidence pointing to this is the striped faggot spammer.
<As long as it's vaguely pony it's fine by me
<They give me such juicy (You)s, they will not force me out of the designated slop thread
<Buckleup buttercups we are bringing back 2011
>Anyone pushing back from low quality ai spam is an elitist who should shut up, or a luddite who needs to die
>Hostile replies, everyone is a samefag if they criticize endless slop spam
>Disingenuously says it's not piling up garbage if it's a request, then proceeds to spam 20-50gens
>Replies to itself or makes new reply to reply to someone else, both reach bumplock faster.
<Its just the ponyboard on 4chan, lighten up
<Yea a dead thread is soooo much better, DESU(fail filter), I think you are just an anti who doesn't want the thread to be active
<Sorry for the spam but an anons gotta do what an anons gotta do
<Posting ai in the ai thread isn't spamming
<Twice the effort I normally put in, took me a whole minute!
<Time to activate my love and tolerance mode in the thread, sometimes the old ways are the best ways
This is a warning shot that it's a /b/troon. The love and tolerance and pissing people off with pony spam.
<I'm okay with foalcon gens if it makes pedos KYS, putting them out of work is enough motivation
<You will never convince me that more Ai is a bad thing
<I am done with that project. Time to move onto the next que
<Accept the new normal and get used to it
<Fuck I can't stop hitting generate and submit
<Shartests seethe and cope, even as a solid artist I confess AI has always won
<This is just a daily thread reminder, and this will never not be fun
>Threatens the thread about posting worse ai gens if people complain about slop gens
>Spam can deteriorate into esoteric garbage, will never put effort in.
>Zero quality control, or self-control not an actual ai artist attempting to improve, and happily fills the threads up with garbage for salt.
>Doing it to trigger people, and will post shittier gens more often
Runs on a shill's gambit of absolutes
>Promotes blackpills about artists, like blacked to whites.
>Promotes revolutionary crap, like getting off about striped owning racists
>Brings up trans at the drop of a hat over anonfilly.
>Antagonistic word salads: Luddites, shartists, anti's, drawslop, gatekeeper
>They are "improving" the thread that was dead before, so be grateful.
>More (low quality) content must be better than no content because it's content amiright fellow horsefuckers
>Goal of spamming the threads will create stealth-sliding via overpopulating a general hitting artifical early bumplocks.
>Barges into a community they were not part of, and has zero etiquette
>Knows it kills genuine interest, and is encouraged to continue because of that
>Fixates on generating "ques" of pre-made slop to fill the thread up, and has fall back favorites since it's a lazy nigger.
>Does not want /ai/ to get shoved into containment boards, as that would kill it's lulz so only spams within what is tolerated by mods that sit on their hands
>Does feed on all negative attention, so would fight against thread IDs that could filter their slopspam.
[Read more] >>9807
>>9818
I return with a heaping spoonful.
It feels like I'm making one of those old warning posts on /trash/. It's really something how much of a FAGGOT this one is, and I'm merely scratching the surface on the ai art thread's spam. Only touching on the unapologetic behavior.
Not even going into the derails about communism he will sperg about when ai threads happen in general. Here's some damning quotes and patterns from this /b/troon ai spammer, and his buttbuddy(?) Who either samefags as admitted posting from a phone, or has backup to astroturf threads/boards suddenly, and there is high evidence pointing to this is the striped faggot spammer.
<As long as it's vaguely pony it's fine by me
<They give me such juicy (You)s, they will not force me out of the designated slop thread
<Buckleup buttercups we are bringing back 2011
>Anyone pushing back from low quality ai spam is an elitist who should shut up, or a luddite who needs to die
>Hostile replies, everyone is a samefag if they criticize endless slop spam
>Disingenuously says it's not piling up garbage if it's a request, then proceeds to spam 20-50gens
>Replies to itself or makes new reply to reply to someone else, both reach bumplock faster.
<Its just the ponyboard on 4chan, lighten up
<Yea a dead thread is soooo much better, DESU(fail filter), I think you are just an anti who doesn't want the thread to be active
<Sorry for the spam but an anons gotta do what an anons gotta do
<Posting ai in the ai thread isn't spamming
<Twice the effort I normally put in, took me a whole minute!
<Time to activate my love and tolerance mode in the thread, sometimes the old ways are the best ways
This is a warning shot that it's a /b/troon. The love and tolerance and pissing people off with pony spam.
<I'm okay with foalcon gens if it makes pedos KYS, putting them out of work is enough motivation
<You will never convince me that more Ai is a bad thing
<I am done with that project. Time to move onto the next que
<Accept the new normal and get used to it
<Fuck I can't stop hitting generate and submit
<Shartests seethe and cope, even as a solid artist I confess AI has always won
<This is just a daily thread reminder, and this will never not be fun
>Threatens the thread about posting worse ai gens if people complain about slop gens
>Spam can deteriorate into esoteric garbage, will never put effort in.
>Zero quality control, or self-control not an actual ai artist attempting to improve, and happily fills the threads up with garbage for salt.
>Doing it to trigger people, and will post shittier gens more often
Runs on a shill's gambit of absolutes
>Promotes blackpills about artists, like blacked to whites.
>Promotes revolutionary crap, like getting off about striped owning racists
>Brings up trans at the drop of a hat over anonfilly.
>Antagonistic word salads: Luddites, shartists, anti's, drawslop, gatekeeper
>They are "improving" the thread that was dead before, so be grateful.
>More (low quality) content must be better than no content because it's content amiright fellow horsefuckers
>Goal of spamming the threads will create stealth-sliding via overpopulating a general hitting artifical early bumplocks.
>Barges into a community they were not part of, and has zero etiquette
>Knows it kills genuine interest, and is encouraged to continue because of that
>Fixates on generating "ques" of pre-made slop to fill the thread up, and has fall back favorites since it's a lazy nigger.
>Does not want /ai/ to get shoved into containment boards, as that would kill it's lulz so only spams within what is tolerated by mods that sit on their hands
>Does feed on all negative attention, so would fight against thread IDs that could filter their slopspam.
>>9828
I had a similar feeling as I had to keep expanding the window and shuffling things around to fit more of the faggotry in.
I had a similar feeling as I had to keep expanding the window and shuffling things around to fit more of the faggotry in.
I dont see the point of enabling IDs for AI Art threads as this won't address the crux of the matter.
>>9785
>things being forced around the site are generally intended to demoralize and degenerate the alt chans and have closer ties to /trash/
Then just create a hidden /trash/ board for all the trash?
People can have their trashy content in the trashcan and the rest of the board can go-on as usual.
I just hope this does not end-up over-saturating the mods.
>things being forced around the site are generally intended to demoralize and degenerate the alt chans and have closer ties to /trash/
Then just create a hidden /trash/ board for all the trash?
People can have their trashy content in the trashcan and the rest of the board can go-on as usual.
I just hope this does not end-up over-saturating the mods.
>>9841
Now that I think about it, making /trash/ a hidden board would be a bad idea, but making it so it does not appear on overboard could work.
I dont think its fair to step-over people's freedom to post, but I understand anons may worry about the "look" of the board if the catalog is filled with scat or whatever.
Now that I think about it, making /trash/ a hidden board would be a bad idea, but making it so it does not appear on overboard could work.
I dont think its fair to step-over people's freedom to post, but I understand anons may worry about the "look" of the board if the catalog is filled with scat or whatever.
>>9707
>It's a good idea to have a board where you can scroll in public with the worst danger being getting odd looks rather than being charged with breaking obscenity laws
I call it "The great filter"
Ages ago people used to go home and sit @ the computer in order to browse the internet, phone-posting changed this (for the worse).
It is best if mlpol cannot be safely accessed by casual users on the bus or street; The biggest issue with phone-posting is the "ill just post a quick reply" mentality said users might have. A thread full of "lol", "faggot", and one-liners is not giving way to any sort of meaningful interaction whatsoever. Pony pussy addresses this issue (in part) by making it less likely for an user to be browsing this board in public.
If you are not browsing /mlpol/ in public, then you most likely have the time and focus to write a proper post.
Of course, this is just a theory of mine,im curious to hear your take on this.
[Read more] >It's a good idea to have a board where you can scroll in public with the worst danger being getting odd looks rather than being charged with breaking obscenity laws
I call it "The great filter"
Ages ago people used to go home and sit @ the computer in order to browse the internet, phone-posting changed this (for the worse).
It is best if mlpol cannot be safely accessed by casual users on the bus or street; The biggest issue with phone-posting is the "ill just post a quick reply" mentality said users might have. A thread full of "lol", "faggot", and one-liners is not giving way to any sort of meaningful interaction whatsoever. Pony pussy addresses this issue (in part) by making it less likely for an user to be browsing this board in public.
If you are not browsing /mlpol/ in public, then you most likely have the time and focus to write a proper post.
Of course, this is just a theory of mine,im curious to hear your take on this.
>>9825
Great post 👍
I thought about making a board solely for pony AI on 8moe as an alternative, but with the recent nuking of their /mlp/ board it seems like it's not as free as I expected.
Great post 👍
I thought about making a board solely for pony AI on 8moe as an alternative, but with the recent nuking of their /mlp/ board it seems like it's not as free as I expected.
>>9556
Furries are indeed an issue, they like horse pussy so posting pony porn is not really useful at all, it would be hard to get rid of furried here. It would also be quite hard to get rid of soyjack posters.
Mod intervention and rules are indeed needed sometimes, I just dont want you all fags to over-rely on mods rather than take issues into your own hands whenever possible.
Furries are indeed an issue, they like horse pussy so posting pony porn is not really useful at all, it would be hard to get rid of furried here. It would also be quite hard to get rid of soyjack posters.
Mod intervention and rules are indeed needed sometimes, I just dont want you all fags to over-rely on mods rather than take issues into your own hands whenever possible.
>>9825
>from this /b/troon ai spammer
>This is a warning shot that it's a /b/troon.
>Barges into a community they were not part of, and has zero etiquette
Thank you, Anon for putting together this image. As a regular of about 8 years on this board, I think I know who this is. I think he is a regular as well.
>mods need to be spoonfed to do any action
>within what is tolerated by mods that sit on their hands
I don't wanna throw anybody under the buss. Everybody knows each other here, for better and for worse. I like both the mods and this guy spamming in ai thread. We have history but I do agree with you and I hope you reach them.
Hehe, I'm trying to not start drama while simultaneously saying what has been bubbling away in the back for a while. I'm not sure what to say.
[Read more] >from this /b/troon ai spammer
>This is a warning shot that it's a /b/troon.
>Barges into a community they were not part of, and has zero etiquette
Thank you, Anon for putting together this image. As a regular of about 8 years on this board, I think I know who this is. I think he is a regular as well.
>mods need to be spoonfed to do any action
>within what is tolerated by mods that sit on their hands
I don't wanna throw anybody under the buss. Everybody knows each other here, for better and for worse. I like both the mods and this guy spamming in ai thread. We have history but I do agree with you and I hope you reach them.
Hehe, I'm trying to not start drama while simultaneously saying what has been bubbling away in the back for a while. I'm not sure what to say.
>>9849
Tho, I'd like to add that the mods are trying. They made this thread after all. We really haven't had this much people here before since its inception so have some patience with them. Not that you haven't or anything, just saying. ^^
Tho, I'd like to add that the mods are trying. They made this thread after all. We really haven't had this much people here before since its inception so have some patience with them. Not that you haven't or anything, just saying. ^^
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>>9830
The crux being disingenuous posting, blending in like a jew into white countries then subverting the community. IDs will not entirely solve it, but it could put a damper in it.
>>9845
Moe was nuked over zoo content that flew under the radar, it's unrelated to ai gens. But the same spammer already resists posting to >>>/cyb/ which had an ai art thread already, and want more eyes on them in /poner/ so they can fill up threads and stealth-slide while starving the regulars of actual content with more effort behind it. Like feeding a baby mcdonalds causing malnutrition and diabetus, killing them early.
8moe is getting bbc shilling all over the boards, and those shills are ignoring the fact that 8ch already had boards for actual bbc fetishes like /interacial/ and /2dblacked/. See it's the same thing, unless there's a crackdown from moderation to force them to move and start banning, then the trolls are never going to use a board for their own '''''interests'''' because the goal is disruption of the community, and replacement with a "new normal" that's 10x worse than it was before. Very slimey and jewish
[Read more] The crux being disingenuous posting, blending in like a jew into white countries then subverting the community. IDs will not entirely solve it, but it could put a damper in it.
>>9845
Moe was nuked over zoo content that flew under the radar, it's unrelated to ai gens. But the same spammer already resists posting to >>>/cyb/ which had an ai art thread already, and want more eyes on them in /poner/ so they can fill up threads and stealth-slide while starving the regulars of actual content with more effort behind it. Like feeding a baby mcdonalds causing malnutrition and diabetus, killing them early.
8moe is getting bbc shilling all over the boards, and those shills are ignoring the fact that 8ch already had boards for actual bbc fetishes like /interacial/ and /2dblacked/. See it's the same thing, unless there's a crackdown from moderation to force them to move and start banning, then the trolls are never going to use a board for their own '''''interests'''' because the goal is disruption of the community, and replacement with a "new normal" that's 10x worse than it was before. Very slimey and jewish
>>9855
The spammer already doesn't want to move off /poner/, like a termite whos found a nice foundation to eat away at. If you made a thread on /mlpol/ it's likely they wouldn't go, just like on /cyb/ and would instead make a new thread on /poner/ in defiance of being uprooted as a weed and will continually point out that posting ponies isn't offtopic on the /poner/ board, its rule one after all. so the ai pony thread will be posted on /poner/ and thats that.
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The spammer already doesn't want to move off /poner/, like a termite whos found a nice foundation to eat away at. If you made a thread on /mlpol/ it's likely they wouldn't go, just like on /cyb/ and would instead make a new thread on /poner/ in defiance of being uprooted as a weed and will continually point out that posting ponies isn't offtopic on the /poner/ board, its rule one after all. so the ai pony thread will be posted on /poner/ and thats that.
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>>9854
>The crux being disingenuous posting, blending in like a jew into white countries then subverting the community. IDs will not entirely solve it, but it could put a damper in it.
That was my point. Sure, you could filter disruptive posters and once they realise they are being ignored, they'll switch IDs and start again. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum. I just scroll past and move on. Unless I'm shitfaced. I do plan on going to >>>/cyb/1545 → to use the thread there, maybe encourage others to move as well.
>The crux being disingenuous posting, blending in like a jew into white countries then subverting the community. IDs will not entirely solve it, but it could put a damper in it.
That was my point. Sure, you could filter disruptive posters and once they realise they are being ignored, they'll switch IDs and start again. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum. I just scroll past and move on. Unless I'm shitfaced. I do plan on going to >>>/cyb/1545 → to use the thread there, maybe encourage others to move as well.
>>9857
>I just scroll past and move on
That's what people have to do here, in the wild west. But unfortunately 4chan /mlp/ was cultivated on bait from the very beginning.
The divisions on where people stop enjoying pony only make baiting more prominent. mlpol so far hasn't stepped in really at all, and leaves it almost entirely to self-police a community of people who have low impulse control.
And when people do bring it up instead of just seething openly and driving further bait threads, they're generally blocked by naïve mods
>I just scroll past and move on
That's what people have to do here, in the wild west. But unfortunately 4chan /mlp/ was cultivated on bait from the very beginning.
The divisions on where people stop enjoying pony only make baiting more prominent. mlpol so far hasn't stepped in really at all, and leaves it almost entirely to self-police a community of people who have low impulse control.
And when people do bring it up instead of just seething openly and driving further bait threads, they're generally blocked by naïve mods
>>9859
>mlpol so far hasn't stepped in really at all, and leaves it almost entirely to self-police a community of people who have low impulse control.
I don't really have an issue with that, in all honesty. The mods have their reasons for their moderation policies, I'm sure. I wouldn't dare expect them to kowtow to a group of refugees yet they have been incredibly accommodating with implementing feature requests and actively engaging with the community.
I've engaged with the Turboautist several times, trying to understand his reasoning on matters but he's without substance, refusing to talk in good faith and be deliberately obtuse. Ostracism and social exclusion is probably the only thing that would have any effect as he'll get angrier, and angrier until he starts posting things that would probably piss off the mods.
>mlpol so far hasn't stepped in really at all, and leaves it almost entirely to self-police a community of people who have low impulse control.
I don't really have an issue with that, in all honesty. The mods have their reasons for their moderation policies, I'm sure. I wouldn't dare expect them to kowtow to a group of refugees yet they have been incredibly accommodating with implementing feature requests and actively engaging with the community.
I've engaged with the Turboautist several times, trying to understand his reasoning on matters but he's without substance, refusing to talk in good faith and be deliberately obtuse. Ostracism and social exclusion is probably the only thing that would have any effect as he'll get angrier, and angrier until he starts posting things that would probably piss off the mods.
>>9843
I don't phonepost and I generally agree with this idea. Still, even if you don't post there's nothing wrong with lurking. Important news gets shared to the site and there are high-effort threads like the /lit/ threads that are fun to read on their own. Sometimes you want to catch up with what's been posted on the board and think about what you would like to write before you actually get a solid opportunity. Other times you might have windows of time to work on a single post during a busy schedule. These are all things I've done from browsing the site in public on occasion.
I don't phonepost and I generally agree with this idea. Still, even if you don't post there's nothing wrong with lurking. Important news gets shared to the site and there are high-effort threads like the /lit/ threads that are fun to read on their own. Sometimes you want to catch up with what's been posted on the board and think about what you would like to write before you actually get a solid opportunity. Other times you might have windows of time to work on a single post during a busy schedule. These are all things I've done from browsing the site in public on occasion.
>>9575
>>9560
>implying he doesn't suck even worse there
Point in case:
https://twibooru.org/posts/1638802#comment_17141
>Update: per The Faggot, the importer's been banned.
>Given recent events with Lotus and Co. i do not expect this to be undone and nobody on the modteam really wants to put up with them to ask for a fix.
>>9607
Feral as a term makes sense exclusively in the context of zoophiles who want to fuck nonsapient animals. It does not mean "animal shaped" (that'd be zoomorphic), it means "not trained or owned, re-wilded animal of domesticated species".
So yeah it makes even less sense with ponies than it does with furfag subculture.
>>9861
>I wouldn't dare expect them to kowtow to a group of refugees
>/leftypol/ tier BBCuck administration
Pick one.
[Read more] >>9560
>implying he doesn't suck even worse there
Point in case:
https://twibooru.org/posts/1638802#comment_17141
>Update: per The Faggot, the importer's been banned.
>Given recent events with Lotus and Co. i do not expect this to be undone and nobody on the modteam really wants to put up with them to ask for a fix.
>>9607
Feral as a term makes sense exclusively in the context of zoophiles who want to fuck nonsapient animals. It does not mean "animal shaped" (that'd be zoomorphic), it means "not trained or owned, re-wilded animal of domesticated species".
So yeah it makes even less sense with ponies than it does with furfag subculture.
>>9861
>I wouldn't dare expect them to kowtow to a group of refugees
>/leftypol/ tier BBCuck administration
Pick one.
>>9885
Anon, I don't know what the hell you are talking about. Something about Twibooru and a comment that isn't actually available in the link and I cannot read. It sounds important. What the hell are you talking about?
Anon, I don't know what the hell you are talking about. Something about Twibooru and a comment that isn't actually available in the link and I cannot read. It sounds important. What the hell are you talking about?
>>9887
>>9888
>>9889
Okay, I have a guess as to what this is about.
Last weekend I noticed that PonerPics would on occasion return an internal server error. This is a sign of excessive stress on the server. So I went into Cloudflare, and found several countries where the traffic was obviously not from humans, and placed restrictions. I'm guessing that one of these is includes the Twibooru scraper and thus has banned it from scraping PonerPics. This has happened before.
I have unrestricted two of the four restricted countries. I think that will unban the Twibooru scrapper, though I don't know which IP it uses. I wish someone would reach out to me instead of just saying "they banned us? oh well, fuck them."
And maybe this has nothing to do with that, I don't know. But it's a guess.
[Read more] >>9888
>>9889
Okay, I have a guess as to what this is about.
Last weekend I noticed that PonerPics would on occasion return an internal server error. This is a sign of excessive stress on the server. So I went into Cloudflare, and found several countries where the traffic was obviously not from humans, and placed restrictions. I'm guessing that one of these is includes the Twibooru scraper and thus has banned it from scraping PonerPics. This has happened before.
I have unrestricted two of the four restricted countries. I think that will unban the Twibooru scrapper, though I don't know which IP it uses. I wish someone would reach out to me instead of just saying "they banned us? oh well, fuck them."
And maybe this has nothing to do with that, I don't know. But it's a guess.
>>9890
Okay, looking into Cloudflare, as well as looking at the DM Floorb sent me two years ago, I can see that one of the rules I enabled blocked the country that the Twibooru Importer came from two years ago. That rule has been disabled.
I'm not sure what the rest of that post was about though.
Okay, looking into Cloudflare, as well as looking at the DM Floorb sent me two years ago, I can see that one of the rules I enabled blocked the country that the Twibooru Importer came from two years ago. That rule has been disabled.
I'm not sure what the rest of that post was about though.
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