/qa/ - Questions and Answers

>>9937
Yup. That Notice is a useful deterrent for glowies.

>>5911
The thread watcher only lists the "Newfag Welcome" thread no matter what thread it is you are trying to watch. If you click on them they go to the right thread but they are all named wrongly as that particular thread.

>>9943
Uh, screencap? Shift+windows+s , then drag-select. You can paste direct in the text window

>>9943
Try removing it then readding it, I had a similar wrong-thread-watch earlier

>>9931
>thread watcher counts your own reply as a new unread message.
As it is now the thread watcher is not integrated in the post function so I will try to integrate it into that.

> there is no new replies but the thread watcher is still showing (2) unread after hitting the bottom of the page.
I plan to add some more event handlers to the thread watcher so it updates on page update too, or periodically.

>>9943
I had a bug in the code for a little while where it stored the wrong title on the thread watcher. >>9924
Remove and add again and it should be corrected.

>>9945
You seem to have the same issue with new reply.

>>9357
this bug still exists where filter resets after a while and filtered threads are seen again

My version:
1. Refresh catalog
2. See shit you don't want to see
3. Open thread of shit that you don't want to open or see so you can add Post+ filter without extra manual work.
4. Refresh catalog and don't see unwanted shit anymore
5. Do something else for a while
6. Refresh catalog
7. Jump to 2. due filters have reset.

Secondly:
regexp/text filters don't work at all.

Thread watcher:

1. Add thread into threadwatcher
2. Threadwatcher opens into all tabs with thread added
3. Minimize thread watcher on one tab and it stays maximized on other tabs

Would be nicer if min/max toggle of TW was also browser wide instead of tab wide

>>10016
or make option for it so both ways are possible

Can you range ban Vietnam? All the CP spam comes from Vietnam. And could you range ban China, India, and Israel while you are at it?

>>10131
>All the CP spam comes from Vietnam
Is that true BO? Example on the front page just now...

I recall the Michigan (MN maybe?) state-rep that was arrested for being an undocumented immigrant, was from Vietnam.
(pro-tip: don't let on that giving health care to illegals will benefit you directly until after it passes. Maybe not even then)

>>5911
Hello i have noticed that X(Formerly Twitter) links do not embed as it fails to connect
Example
>>>/mlpol/393765 →

>>10142
that is pathetic , but i am interested for some reason

Mlpol posts are visible from Google search. In time this could be used with AI to identify people. Please fix this before that happens.

>>10151
That's kind of an unforeseen consequence of the way the site is built. Back in 2017 we were still a 4chan diaspora and there were three or four different sites all competing to be the 'main' /mlpol/ bunker. Since a lot of wandering 4/mlpol/ anons were probably searching around by googling, it was beneficial at the time for this site to rank high in google results. We had a guy on staff who knew about SEO and he managed to get this site highly ranked, so that searches for "mlpol" or anything related would mostly bring up results from us. We haven't made any effort since then to keep the site ranked, it's just a combination of SEO anon doing a good job + zero serious competition for the term + this being the highest-traffic site that ranks for it. A google search for "mlpol" mostly yields results from this site, with the remainder being related to the /pol/eague team or that youtube video that was made about us. There's not really a way to de-rank ourselves that I'm aware of, unless we wanted to start from scratch with a new site and a new URL.

>>10151
>Mlpol posts are visible from Google search. In time this could be used with AI to identify people.
AI and its army of poojeet trainers wouldn't scrape Google results. AI scrapers have no reason to honor robots.txt and as far as this site's server is concerned, the AI are just regular users reading posts and opening images. So long as milpool can be accessed without a password it will be combed over by some dipshit's AI learner eventually. Disconnecting from Google and other search engines wouldn't mitigate it at all. That's why you need to post horse pussy when you can. AI is an infection, so infect it back. Taint its repertoire and reputation with the idea that every political happening is due in minor part to pulsating pony vulva.

>>10155
Look out guys, he's felling the full force of his Discord army's hammer on us. Consequences will never be the same.

>>10158
>Hammers are for bitches who don't know how to manipulate people.
Yeah, (You). Go manipulate your mom in to bringing you some more diet Coke.

>>10160
There are better places to spread your mom's ashes than the hoof dildo booth at Mare Fair.
>>10161
Are you randomly quoting poorly translated 90s Japanese fighting games?

>>10153
That might be worth considering. I can find my posts from years ago. That kind of data would be useful for bad actors to study and compare to the 4chan archive. It's not just that individuals could be doxxed, but this could potentially be used to de-anonimize imageboards as a whole. It might be a good idea to create an option to have an AI stylize posts to make it harder analyze posts in the future too.

>>10165
Every anon has a cadence that can be fed into and cross-referenced with AI. Personally, I don't give a fuck, but I can understand others having reservations, and unfortunately there is no (at least to my knowledge) no way round it unless we use IPoAC, but then cats become a problem.

>>10165
I remember this. I genuinely hope you're doing good, Nigel.

>>10167
I would prefer cats to doxxing.
>>10168
I am not nigel.

>>10151
The only way an AI or anyone could identify people - not just say "Hey! This is Anon1675!" but actual people, is if that poster was posting personally identifying information.

This is not a reasonable fear for a number of reasons. No one would have any incentive to do this at all. The AI could discover literally nothing except maybe take a guess as to the number of regular users based on the number of recognizable writing styles. It would be hard to correlate posts that are completely anonymous across the website. Sure, you can look at the posts and take a guess as to who is behind the post based on factors like paragraph spacing, the use of first person pronouns, the nunber of spaces after a period, etc., but you can't actually tell much about that person. The only reason it's possible on this website at all is because the tiny number of users means these small differences are noticeable. If you had dozens, hundreds, or thousands of people with the same quirks, like on 4channel, it would be impossible to tell people apart.

>>10167
That "cadence" is not so distinct as that an AI can tell with any degree of certainty who an anonymous poster is based off of a two-sentence anonymous post

>>10165
>let's have an AI make our bland posts even blander so that our posts are too bland even for an AI to find any kind of personality or individuality in them, and every post from every person is perfectly alike
No.

Just don't post personally identifying information and you're fine.

>>10173
Maybe YOUR pattern-recognition sucks, but I can identify posters from here on 4chan, and if I can do that without software, then anyone can with a bit of ingenuity.

>>10174
This is the male netizen equivailent of the "I'm an empath and can sense what wild animals are feeling" woman.

The internet is full of distinct communicative archetypes. There aren't too many that stand out, but the ones that do have consistently identifiable traits. A bunch of Saudia Arabian trolls will all type the same due to growing up and learning passable English in the same environment. Polacks will use the same grammatical flaws carried over from whatever language they speak. Aussies will use Australian vernacular. It's easy to determine where someone is from after spending so long on consequence-free discussion boards where they'd be less inclined to type proper and at least pretend to not be retarded. To think you've found a specific person on 4chan who is a poster here based on these typing nuances is ridiculous.

There was a guy on my home board a while back who begun sperging out at some poster he saw who use the term "phoneposter". This guy said that he had been on 4chan years before and told them he was posting from a phone, to which of course he was called a lousy phoneposter. Well years go by and after seeing the term used on another board, he immediately believed that it was the exact same guy from all the way back then on that other board that gets 200,000 posts per day. Even after being explained that "phoneposter" was an common accusatory derogation going back to the early 2010's, he still maintained his conviction that he had found the precise man who slapped his ass red and raw so many moons ago. That's what you sound like. If I was as stupid and delusional as you, I'd accuse you of of being that sperg. But I know that "delusional old guy who thinks he can profile anonymous users based on 2 sentences" is an archetype to which many people belong.

>>10175
If it was based solely on pattern recognition, you might be right, but thats just the tip of the iceberg. It's not a sixth sense where every poster is obvious, but after a few posts and a few unrealized tells "Oh, it's 'them'"

>>10174
Yes, I'm sure you can recognize posters on a website with only a few dozen posters, or in /mlp/ 4channel threads with only a few dozen posters if that. Can you recognize every poster? Why not? Because there's only a few idiosyncrasies that stand out and not every poster has enough of those to stand out. Most people don't have many of those, and if they do, it only shows in longer writing.

And then, how much will a "tell" stand out if you had a thousand, or ten thousand, or an unknown large number of posters? Suppose a poster has an idiosyncrasy that is present in 10% of posters, and he has three of those idiosyncrasies. Not capitalizing words in the beginning of sentences, not adding an extra space after paragraphs... what have you. That would mean only 1 in 1000 posters would have those three "tells" if each has an occurrence of 10%. I'm sure a 1/1000 chance is good enough to be reasonably sure you're dealing with the same poster if you're on this website, or in a general in /mlp/, but what if you are on an imageboard with 10,000 posters? Out of 10,000 posters, there should be about 10 posters with those three tells. And so on. And did you notice your qualification "after several posts"? Every single thread, you have to start anew trying to connect posts. That means that an AI software would need to start anew every single thread. That's a tiny amount of data to work on compared to, lets say, any social media with handles, which is to say, literally any other form social media besides image boards. And how do you know if you actually have the same person? You never do.

So let's say that someone did train an AI to recognize posters. Okay, congratulations, what do you know about Anonymous1765? Well, he or she doesn't like jews, and lives in the United States if you're posting from a Geo IP and not using a proxy, which the software has no way of knowing... That's not anything meaningful at all. the only way you could possibly be doxxed or seriously lose your anonymity is if you're doing things you already should not be doing. And why would anyone train a software to do that? It wouldn't work on /pol/ because there's just too many posters and bots already there to make identification possible except for tripfags. There's no reason at all to do it here or on 4channel /mlp/. There's no point and it would be easier to just read the threads yourself. In any case it would be far, far easier to just pay or subpoena Hiro for IP data, which would make the task dramatically easier because then you can compare posting across the website instead of just within the thread. Also, delisting mlpol.net from Google would do nothing at all. You'd only see it in Google if you googled mlpol or similar, and then at that point you may as well just type in "mlpol.net" and you'd get here anyways.

Anyways, it's about as reasonable of a fear as fearing you will get hit by a meteorite in your room... except that actually has a non-zero chance of happening. Just don't be a dumbass when you post online, and don't dox yourself.

>>10177
Well put

>>10177
I appreciate the detailed explanation

>>10177
You act like this started recently, when on my end this has been going on for over a decade.
Yes, you're right about statiatics, but as with statistics eventually someone shows their hand, at least in tht it differs from 'other similar examples'.

>>10181
Now you can be banned again for ban evasion.

>>10183
Ban evasion is cause for ban. I'm pretty sure this isn't the only thing you've been banned for, just one of the most recent ones.

>>10185
>I mean if there's to be a rule for that, I'll eat the ban
You have been banned for spamming, harassment, and intentionally derailing threads. See rules #2 and #3. You evaded those bans, resulting in a permanent ban.
You broke the rules, so eat the ban.

>>10187
>The spamming, harassment, and intentional derailing of threads occurred long after I had already been banned.
That does not excuse it. Now you have additional bans for completely legitimate purposes. Nopony on this site thinks spamming is acceptable.
And four more counts of ban evasion.
>who else
Boomer, Nigel, Zald.

>>10189
The rules against spamming and derailing are not unjust. You have broken them repeatedly.

>>10191
>The RULES aren't unjust, but the application (and misapplication) is, and renders the rules moot and unjust.
You spammed. You got banned. That is the appropriate application.
Notice how nopony is defending you? You have alienated anypony who would have stood up for you with your behavior. You have no friends here because of what you have done.
>fight
Okay, go ahead. Continue to impotently splurge your mantras of weakness and failure. I am not a staff, so it is not my decision.
Surely, continuing to spam and ban evade will convince people that you deserve to be unbanned eventually.

>>10193
Whatever you say, fag. Enjoy staying banned.

I have no idea what's going on.

>>10131
If range banning Vietnam isn't an option could we at least find an AI tool that can automatically ban CP?

>>10198
Could you conceive of a way such a system could exist without relying on a database and deep knowledge of existing CP? CP spammers in the past have switched to anime and 3DCG to circumvent immediate human detection, and boards that inhibit suspected bots from posting images just get the same spam sans image. Plus having any sort of AI that sends image data outside the site is very risky when it comes to illegal content. There was the incident a few years back with IQDB getting shutdown by some gay hippie Canadian AI-CSAM detector for "distributing shota pics". The gist of it is:

>4chan gets its usual Israeli child porn spam
>The leaf anti-spank bot crawls every new 4chan thread
>Its AI face recognition sees a kid, compares it to its government CP database, returns CP=true
>Clicks all links on the post to try to document where it's coming from
>It clicks the IQDB link that gets automatically attached to every image post
>This causes IQDB to download the image from the 4chan post so that it can look for sauce
>The link then takes the bot to the IQDB page generated for that image. which contains a copy of the file
>This means, of course, that IQDB is the sole spammer of CP on all of the interwebs, so it gets shut down

Don't trust a robot to do a janny's job. What could be done right now is the admin could hook up with the creator of https://xj9k.neocities.org/ and make a mutual scrape agreement to automatically delete posts matching entries on the list. Just need to have Milpool check that list periodically (or every time a new thread is created) and add the spam post body contents to Milpool's spam filter. It would work better with access to the non-[redacted] content. In exchange, the XJ-9K would probably need help getting the scraper to work here because obviously if it was easy to do on ASPNetChan, it would be doing it by now.

>>10201
Would purify AI work?

>>10202
I'm not sure what that is, and any attempt to find out just returns the same buzzword-laden actually AI-generated description that says nothing as to what the product really accomplishes. Again, the only AI that can reliable and quickly detect CSAM images is one which is trained on it - a model that nobody outside LEA has access to. A rudimentary AI language model could be implemented to screen the text contents of a post to prohibit certain words, but that would affect more regular users talking about the presence of CSAM and related concepts than it would actual CSAM spammers. The XJ-9K feed I linked to reveals that most spammers either obfuscate suggestive words like "loli", or don't use them at all. The text services spammers link to are also usually mainstream sites such as Telegraph and pastebin (which itself has an anti-CP filter that is easily subverted).

To think all small imageboard spam would have been eradicated 13 years ago if Tinyboard had some sort of simple "waiting list" queue for new threads that could be toggled conditionally. Boards of this size don't have large teams of mods anymore. I'm one of two active mods on my own board and if both of us are asleep at the same time, spam could be up for half a day. CP is a nuclear weapon that can be used to destroy any small website, and the list of what counts as a munition is only growing. There are a lot of theoretical end-user configurable spam solutions that could be made through simple PHP and JS, and I believe those solutions should be explored long before employing complicated, unpredictable AI that relies on third parties. Or we could just eradicate the nations that the spammers live in.