/mlpol/ - My Little Politics

>college
How many years did it take to get a degree in marxism?

I have an engineering degree, (Y'know a real fucking degree) but I don't see having one as critical to discussing politics. Now you should certainly have a useful skill, and by useful skill I mean something that helps build and maintain infrastructure/goods or something in healthcare. The opinion of a construction worker or welder is infinitely more valuable than the opinion of a Starbucks worker with a degree in gender studies.

Also saw this exact thread with this exact image on 4/pol/. How many site wide posts does this faggot have?

>>295567
>>295568
>>Smug, reddit-tier image
>>A question that not even a newfag would write
>>With an equally braindead answer

>How many site wide posts does this faggot have?
If you have to wonder, my guess would be that you're right.

>>295567
Based engineering bro /)
OP is very clearly a faggot. Either it's a worthless poly sci degree, or it's irrelevant to discussing politics, and that's without addressing that where the degree comes from has as much validity as what the degree is.
>>295568
Give ya one guess

>>295564
I went to college for one and a half years "studying" the absolute goddamn basics of english/maths/IT because the college refused to teach me actual coding until I had finished the baby shit their time-wasting system demanded.
When they got me into a "creative media class" they promised would teach coding and editing and animating and youtube content creation (but just turned out to be wasting time on one college side-building's in-house monthly newsletter that's only printed out for 10 people tops) I walked. Being your own boss feels good. I will succeed despite the best efforts of every woman I have ever met in the pseudoeducation-indoctrination complex.

Colleges are dying institutions. If the government stopped funding them, they'd die almost instantly. Self-education via online resources is the modern way of learning, classrooms with rote memorization was a method of learning designed to help women and niggers compete with the white boys held back by feminist teachers and feminist teachings.

OP is a nigger faggot for thinking what you've memorized at college when it comes to fixing cars or cooking fancy bullshit or analyzing blood splatters or your teacher's feminist views has anything to do with your understanding of politics.

However, you know what's funny? Mindsets like OP's are a symptom.
A symptom that says, deep down, you know public school indoctrination from womb to 16-18ish is utterly worthless when it comes to separating the smart kids from the stupid ones.
You fetishize college because you're a product of public school indoctrination. You value yourself based on what your "teachers" (minders) told you while brainwashing you.
You might not be smart enough to understand how bad public schools fuck over smart poor kids, by forcing them to "distinguish themselves" in overly-expensive colleges if they want better odds in the job market, but you'd be less of a nigger if you did understand.

>>295567
Fellow engie grad here. You said it better than I could, big props to ya'.
>>295564
https://youtu.be/Bf821SFBGcA
You know what Charles Darwin studied at university before he went on to discover evolution? Theology.
Running a glorified guild that only allows people with a arbitrary distiction (awarded to them by some one with an equally arbitrary distiction) to talk on various matters, including politics, is a terrible idea IMHO. It leads to quashing of dissenting ideas from the guilds circle jerk/echo chamber.

>>295564
why are you gay, OP?

>>295582
Oh look, a boomer

>>295584
...It's a good thing you're bad at this.

>>295584
>He dares to come back after getting absolutely BTFO by the whole thread he started
I think you should just take this one as a loss, mate.

>>295564
>>295584
>I feel it's critical. If you don't have a degree, you really shouldn't voice your opinion at all because it's not rooted in any intellectual thought process.
>intellectual thought process
>OP
Wow I'm surprised I get the chance to use some of this here finally.
>>295587
It would have been okay if he salvaged and defended his argument well, but...
>>295564
>>295584

>>295587
Cringe. Talk about Q and jerk off, you fucking simp. Imagine being upset when someone addresses intellect in politics - a valid topic that only the most mouth breather mindless McDonalds employees would be upset about.

>>295590
You can tell this is a shill because he is dishonestly trying to rewrite the past now.
First he said "People without degrees should not voice their opinion because it's not rooted in any intellectual thought process"
Now he's claiming he was "just talking about intellect in politics" which is a very vague and deceptive way to word what he was saying.
Hell, it's an outright lie. He wasn't talking about intellect in politics. He said people without college degrees should be silent and their opinion isn't "rooted in any intellectual thought process".
He specifically said something he knows is retarded. And then backtracked by a leftist nigger coward commie CUCK because he knows he cannot defend what he actually said.
He's got a lot of generic playground-tier insults to throw around but he's just here to waste time.
Don't you just love it when lefty scumbags dishonestly reduce everything to vague abstractions so they can try and make their unreasonably lefty positions sound reasonable and make all opposition to them sound unreasonable when the leftist incredulously asks if we're really opposing him?
It's not a tactic for honest debate, it's a tactic for slandering the person you are talking to. I'm surprised Mein Kampf doesn't mention it since jews love doing this old "So you're really saying..." routine. Suck my cock Cathy Newman, Jordan Peterson is smarter than you.
This absolute dishonesty...
That's what unjustifiably smug and hilariously dishonest demoralized subhumans like this tend to do. The subhuman liberal antiwhite accuses you of being a loser. Isn't that fucking hilarious?

>>295596
>>295596
>gaslighting, dishonesty, backtracking, overall deceit
Spot on. Theres been a noticeable increase in that lately in several threads. I'm sure it's not correlated though, that would be silly.

>>295598
The shills are afraid of us :)

>>295598

Shore up the Horsepussy! They will never take us!

>>295608
What do you think he'll do next, try to turn everything into a worthless argument about hypothetical nonsense where he pretends his "moral" stance on a matter straight out of his fantasy-world rewrite of reality makes him morally superior?
Or try to insist that by reasonably opposing his "only college gives you logic and the right to voice your opinion" bullshit you're actually taking a cartoonishly extreme stance in what he calls the direction opposite to his opinion like "Education of any kind is never good and a high IQ makes you stupid"?

>>295588
I was ready to give him a poner pic as recompense for the absolute asswhooping that he has received on this day, to the amusement of many a horsefucker, and tell him to lurk for two more years, but I think if there was any doubt to his identity as a shill it's gone now.

>>295596
>>295598
Let it stand as a testament to the newfags that this is exactly how shills behave. Call them out, ridicule them if you must, but don't stoop to their level and assume they're willing to change their viewpoint. They're just trying to drag you.

>>295611
Whatever his argument, if he were so convinced of the necessity of higher education in entering a discussion about anything, let alone something as divisive as politics, he might consider attending a lecture on rhetoric. Downright crass, he was.

>>295608
Is it time?

There's a suspicious pack of horse pussy here...

>>295590
You talk like you run an instagram meme page with 1.7k followers but have been taking a break since july kek.

>>295613
Just a couple newfags having fun at a shill's expense. We were just about to get to that part, but by now I think this should be enough to let the thread slide.

>>295590
To be fair, you have to have a very good college degree to understand political discourse on the internet. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the memes will go over a typical poster's head. There's also OP's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The college graduates understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these memes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about POLITICS. As a consequence people who don't go to college truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in OP's existential catchphrase "Holy fuck I love cock, literally ram 1000 of them down my throat," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as OP's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a college tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

>>295616
God, it's really obvious who is a GED fag in this thread. "Oh I'm so edgy a college graduate can't handle me"

Yawn.

Your only purpose in life is to ring me up. I'm sure you love Trump too, right?

>>295621
Hot. Keep it up while we repeatedly remind everyone how scared we are of college graduates

>>295625
Oh no these pictures are so shocking and edgy what am I going to do.

Oh wait. You still work at Walmart.

Horse pussy reigns eternal and also OP is still an unamusing faggot.

>>295624
Holy shit nigger XD keep the jokes coming

>>295620
>>295624
You got a degree just to work at a movie theater as a projector.

>>295564
lul. You plebicunts don't even realize that (((college))) is a complete fucking waste of time and shekels. How pathetic. Also, this EXACT same thread was posted on 4cuck. If you had even spent the last MONTH on this site, you'd know that (((Q))) is controlled opposition. What does this mean? That (((You))) are a self-important literal glownigger. Thanks for outing yourself, huwhite amerifatass. Doing a great job showing off how deep the treachery in those Jewnited ESTATES of 'muricacuckland are!

>>295564
College education? The institution overrun with useless degrees, chink cheating rings and soviet era propaganda? That institution? What a garbage take.

>>295564
>intellectual thought process
>(((intellectual)))
I don't know how to take it.
Or is plain unadulterated trolling; or it's a shot across the ego to trigger the anons to show their power levels; or OP really drunk the jewish koolaid.
Anyway, have the mandatory horsepussy.

>>295633
Oh look, another Walmart employee joins the party. Giggle.

>>295637
Ask your bosses about project 23 and 5_4_. If they ask about the red one or the kinda sorta yellow one go for the green one first. You'll know what to do.

>>295564
This guy wants nothing but to mess with us. He's so adorable. Let's keep up with horse pussy posting, It will probably cheeer him up.

Reminder: OP is a stupid faggot with shit bait who will someday die as he lived; with a college degree clutched in his hands and AIDS in his ass. Too bad they couldn't teach him not to be both a nigger and a faggot. A niggot.

>>295590
>>295624
>>295626
>>295637
I notice that you mention Walmart and McDonald's a lot. Where is it that you think people with degrees in useless shit like sociology work? I'll give you a hint they don't work at companies that build or create anything of value. (Seeing as they lack the skills required to create anything of value themselves) So what are some companies that don't require skilled labor that might employ people without useful skills?

>>295655
>THIS HERES BAIT FELLERS
>responds
This is precisely why a college education is useful. Perfect example.

>>295659
Strawman argument and a shit one at that. You are even more pathetic than the redneck I'm addressing above. Let me guess...Q said something really profound and the storm is coming any day now, right?

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

>>295660
I didn't make an argument all I did was ask a question.
Also
>Q
Nigga where the fuck do you think you are?

>>295663
If you're not agreeing or making an argument, your simply a waste of time. But I'm sure your parents tell you that every day.

>>295637
lol I work at a fast food joint but because of the drive thru we stayed open. compared to 80% of my friends (most of which are in college) I was the only one making money.
Calculated, i made more this year than my state senator did by "flipping burgers"

>>295664
If you are so smart and educated shouldn't you at least know the difference between a question and an argument? How much did you pay for that degree?

>>295564
>intellectual thought
It sums it all.

>>295666
Trust me, it's really obvious that you flip burgers. Those shocking pictures are so edgy and hardcore, I bet you listen to metal too. You're like a living facial tattoo.

Trump lost because he tried to appeal to people like you. You can barely read and you're trying to discuss politics. I'm embarrassed for you. Thank Christ things are changing in Washington.

>>295671
I notice you avoid answering questions at all costs. Why is that? Are you not able to answer them? Would answering them reveal something that might weaken your initial claim on the value of a college degree? Maybe you just aren't smart enough to answer them. I mean you clearly weren't smart enough to major in engineering.

So sleepy...

>>295673
Most likely a major in (((liberal arts))), if any.

I think horsepussy and sage is the method to go for threads like these and then just like ignore.

>>295676
Kek or a social """"science""" major.

>>295677
B-but we are having fun, poner.

>>295677
Because Christ forbid you apply an iota of reason and logic to the discussion.

>>295682
Aaaah, you are the eternal materialist. Suit yourself commie.

>>295682
You don't engage in honest discussion or answer questions so why should they engage in discussion with you?

>>295677
Nah just get the other STEM master race anons to put this faggot in his place. We can make fun of his useless degree. Come on STEM bros half of your time in study groups was spent making fun of Starbucks degrees anyways. It will be like old times.

>>295688
Making sense is not his priority in here. I am sure he's made 'quite' an emphasis on that.

So far he is winning an argument just by being a mouthpiece of shills that he is. This could have been a nice thread with zero replies but that just couldn't happen.

>>295682
>Because Christ forbid you apply an iota of reason and logic to the discussion.
You've entirely failed to do either when engaged with seriously. Every one of your responses has contained a fallacy or avoided the point in question. You've done absolutely nothing to justify your position, argue its merits or provide a reasonable and logical conclusion as to why it's better. You come across as a recent college graduate with one of those useless degrees who's just here to "own the conservatives" because you're on the brink of realising that you, like many other champagne socialists, are about to become part of the blue collar working class you've spent your entire college career mocking, only you'll be saddled with tens of thousands of dollars of debt for a degree you can't use, putting you on a lower rung than the people you mock.

Your response to this, if any, will be an ad hominem, "lol u mad" or a tl;dr. The truth is, you're nothing but a wannabe aristocrat, the easily suggestible yesman the actual aristocrats infesting society use to beat people down to the bottom of the pyramid. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

>>295681
This is probably the same guy that made that wierd troll-like? thread about how white ponies should open up their borders to other species and then the larping began. Really, similar posting style. This guy will continue to no end so long as he gets attention and I just don't care enough.

But if you wanna debate with him you can, I guess.

>>295689
I'm currently studying STEM courses, which I don't fear saying from a datamining persepcetive but I still wanna make it clear that i am aware that I am revealing info about myself.

>>295692
Sure, but that's why we should sage our posts when posting hp and then ignore or just ignore works as well.

>>295692
Or better yet it can be a thread where we make fun of useless degrees. You have no idea how fun this shit can be. Shitlibs can't stand when others (especially STEM majors) mock them for being intellectually inferior. They think they are smart, but they were stupid enough to pay for a Starbucks degree.

Hey OP what's it like knowing literal retards can get a degree just like yours? I'm just curious because we don't have literal retards in STEM so I wouldn't know.

Https://www.forbes.com/sites/allisonnorlian/2020/05/21/the-first-degree-woman-is-first-person-with-down-syndrome-to-graduate-from-rowan-university/amp/

>she became the first person with down syndrome to receive a diploma from Rowan University in Glassboro, New Jersey.

>Rubright graduated with a bachelor’s degree in radio, television and film

>>295693
I tend to view Australians, quite generally and universally, as cowards. Your country bans books, movies - your population allows this level of censorship so your political position is weak from the start. Congratulations on taking classes. You might even be able to use them if you escape that godforsaken country and move to a civilized country.

After Biden is sworn in, the US will finally count as a civilized country again.

If you really want to win this argument then there is the only one right way to do so. Throw him out of this discussion.

Straight. Horse. Pussy. Porn.

No words.

No replies.

Horse pussy.

It works because not only you show desinterest in his shilling. You kick the shilling out of this thread. He thinks he owns this thread. That is why he thinks he owns us. He is toying with a ridiculous bait to get attention out of us for his own amusement.

Is he really worth your time? your investment?

Stop talking and post clop for fucks sakes...

>>295695
>Shitlibs can't stand when others (especially STEM majors) mock them for being intellectually inferior
Oh boy.
Let OP to deploy his knowledge and skills. /mlpol/ is waiting.

>>295698
>Your country bans books, movies - your population allows this level of censorship so your political position is weak from the start.
Nigga you suck Google or Amazon's dick every time they remove books or sites with opinions you deem offensive. Sit your ass down.

>>295699
He avoids responding to posts mocking his worthless degree. Clearly it bothers him. Just make fun of him and have fun with this shit.

>>295701
>"Nigga"
Call me whatever you want, but make sure you serve my fries nice and hot.

>>295704
Nigger I'm an engineer. I keep the lights on. Get me a fucking coffee you little shit.

>>295698
>Your country bans books, movies - your population allows this level of censorship so your political position is weak from the start.
So take it from me as an authority on the subject when I say censorship is a terrible idea, one that many, most, if not the majority, of college graduates and students insist on implementing. The very same people you claim are the only ones qualified to be contributing to political discussion. So you practically just provided the exact reason why a technocratic elite cannot be allowed to be the sole determinants of a nation's future, destroying your own premise.

As for America becoming civilised under a Biden administration, I don't think you fully understand what you people have unleashed. Even if he does get in, he's not going to turn the US of A into a socialist paradise, not even close. The inevitable result is disappointment and, thus, continued rioting from hard left liberals who will be increasingly protected from the the arm of the law by administrations in democrat controlled stats. America is slated to become less civilised either way, not more. The differences between the socialists and the patriots at this point are irreconcilable and can only mean secession, civil war, balkanisation and subsequent urban collapse as coastal cities lose access to producer state resources. With the lose of those resources will come race war, as socialists have inflamed tensions between the races considerably, and competition for resources always ends with division along tribal lines. They'll go for the college graduates first because you're easy targets.

My country might be governed by ban happy, senile old men, spinster feminists and chinese traitors, but at least we're not on the brink of total collapse like the US currently is.

Sorry bros, I can't help myself.

>>295703
I, for one, have a degree in social studies (got it last year, just in time before the lockdown) and I can tell he ain't gonna be intimidated by any of that.

The guy is annoying but it's basically what he is delibirately trying to accomplish. Don't make it about the Vendetta. You can have more fun and save some nerves by talking to a guy about what kind of horse pussy he likes to rut in the morning.

He can be your guy.

>>295709
He ain't responding. I find that those with useless degrees usually have very little to say when you remind them who keeps the lights on.

>>295698
>>295704
How does it feel to know that you have nothing of value to anyone including yourself in any capacity?
Your feelings may also be dead, decaying, that your only respite is from us.
So you'll just go back and keep living your hollow life. Maybe if your lucky your suffering will be short.

>>295710
Have it your way.

>>295708
No worries. Living on the edge of reality is good enough for me.
>>295709
Nice.
>He ain't gonna be intimidated
Eh, that's not the point.
Anyway have some good poners friends.

>>295713
Top tear pics.

>>295708
I'm seldom surprised, but you got close just now. You have been reading too much pol. That is not remotely what is happening. You're just reacting to some news headlines. The United States is largely moderate, with extremes being incredible minorities.

Under Trump we were exposed to constant waves of retardation. That was it. Just a giant orgy of retarded behavior. And it brought out the worst in the tiny minorities in the extreme sides of each party.

That is now over. Biden is a sedative if nothing else. Things will finally calm down. People will finally begin practicing logical conversation again. Not instantly but soon.

The US is far from being on the brink of collapse, but I can see how an under educated Australian would create that fantasy to escape the reality that is your country being completely taken over in front of your face.

Fuck all of you, I’m supposed to be asleep.

>>295717
It's good, anon. Guy needs his relief after being put up with a peculiar shill. And your brothers in arms are happy to provide.

>>295716
Your oh so logical democrat cities have been burning all summer, and you say that? You're living in Rome right now, only instead of Christians terrorising the pagans, it's materialist ideology deconstructing academia, and instead of lead piping, it's rampant psychopharmacology and hormone treatments. A lot of Romans thought it would all just pass and business would go back to normal, but the only thing you guys have left to decide is who's going to play the fiddle as Rome burns down. Also reddit spacing, you really should go back and pretend everything's going to be fine.

Honestly, guys. I'm starting to think that he is not the only shill here.

Why are you posting in this thread anyway? I couldn't care less about this. Is this whole thing suppose to prove that we at mlpol are insecure about our education? Becuase it doesn't.
Anyone can post in these forum and in manner they want, anonymously.

If you guys are doing this because you wanna post you're opinions on random matters that tangetially connected to the vague and really badly made bait thread, then I guess that's okay.

But really though, from the perspective of trolling, I don't even really respect this bait. He ain't making really much of an effort to get so much attention that he is getting. I guess, you guys really wanna talk about this subject.

>>295721
C'mon. It's fun. Loosen up.

>>295716
>Retardation waves
Seeing it first hand from you sure is comforting. After all it'll just disappear.
Sorry to spoil your incoherent splashing, but on every mark you've failed at reality recognition.
>Moderates that do nothing.
Sorry, that's changing.
>Tiny Minorities.
Especially the tiny minorities with the tiny hats that have the tiny wires hanging across cities to occupy their tiny souls.
>Biden will calm everything down guyz
Short answer is no.
>The US is far from the brink of collapse.
Says the ignorant retard wave generator. Tell me what every section would do. Like every post you've made lacks in every area.
You continue to prove your existence is empty. Hide your head under the sand at least then you'll have something between your ears.

>>295721
Arguing is the bread and butter of imageboards, I know I shouldn't, but it's very much pic related.

>>295721
If the concept of education upsets you... You don't have much of an education. Cry harder.

>>295721
I like poking them. They crumble easily. It's like a train wreck in motion. If he had anything of any kind of substance I might've taken him even a little seriously.
It's not even emotionally conducive, it's just filler posts to see what stage the train wreck is in.
>>295725
It's more of watching wild flailing as the fag goes and damages himself.
>>295726
My point.

>>295726
Check out my house I built. Do you like it?

>>295726
Do you by chance know how to craft a compass? I really need your college knowledge put into some practice right now.

I know it has to do with some redstone but the rest is debris to me. I need your unquestionable divine intellect to guide.

>>295728
>>295729
No worries. It's good general advice.
OP, he'll self implode soon.

>>295722
>>295725
>>295727

Sure, I guess. I'm sorry guys. I misunderstood. If Anons are enjoying themselves than I shouldn't get in the way of that and I'll put down my weapon.

>>295733
Yeah.
OP is under the spell of his own propaganda, so, let us play along. Why not?

>>295564
You make me ashamed of my engineering degree by pretending to possess intelligence.
Just take this (You) and shove it.

Serious question for you, OP; why should the opinion of someone who is educated be valued over the opinion of someone who produces? In this world even someone with down syndrome can get a college education so clearly a degree that can be obtained by a retard does not require high intelligence. Their opinions are not inherently better if actual retards can get the same degree. People that produce on the other hand have at least proven that they can contribute to society in some way, and that they think contributing to society is worth their time. Let's take a sociology major let's even pretend that they actually have a good understanding society and they want to share their political views. They have no skills that can produce anything of value and whatever their political ideas are they clearly didn't think those ideas were good enough to actually build towards them. Surely they would have had the opportunity to learn something that would benefit their ideal society, but they chose not to learn those skills. They chose not to build or create for their cause. If you don't care enough about your cause to build or create for what you believe in then why should anyone else?

>>295581
>>295735
Why are there so many engineers here? I know I've seen more then just these guys in other threads, and we've had math threads on here where people are at least capable of solving differential equations. What is it about this site that attracts engineers?

>>295736
Mmh, sure I agree that people who produce are great.

My view is this though, that like if something is true it is true. So regardless if it is a parrot or the devil himself, 1+1=2. So it doesn't really matter who says that and who doesn't.

>>295738
I suppose there is an argument to be made over snap decisions, were doesn't have time to fact check andtherefore has to trust the one's one trust and other circumstances of tha kind.

>>295738
Sure truth is independent of who is speaking, but as you said >>295739 we can't fact check everyone. People often have ulterior motivations especially those pushing political ideologies. Someone who is willing to build or create for their cause is more likely to at least believe in what they are saying because of the amount of time and effort it takes to build and create. Someone who got a meme degree, and wants others to do shit for them probably doesn't care much about what they are preaching. Such a person most likely just wants a higher status position in society without putting forth in any effort.

>>295748
Did I call it or did I FUCKING call it?
The shill is gaslighting.

Is bunkerchan down or something?

how the fuck does this shitty thread have so many replies?

>>295737
I was surprised (pleasantly) with how many fellow engies we have here.
The only explanation I have is autism tho

>>295766
It makes a nice expos'e on shilling tactics

>>295773
I think it speaks more to how easy it is to be an engineer in today's society. Everyone gets a trophy.

>>295792
Nigger, lefty colleges have courses in "Underwater feminist basket weaving" and "the intertextual appeal of toopock shakira".
Are you really crying "participation trophies" upon encountering a handful of engineers in the same place? What a fucking joke. Is this your first time encountering multiple engineers?
What's the matter? Does it hurt your ability to delude yourself into thinking you're the only one here who went to college?
Why don't you tell us what you studied in college?

>>295793
Look at you reading and quoting people! Intellect like that...you're what, top .01 percent of Trump supporters in terms of IQ?

>>295792
Then why didn't you become an engineer? Surely they make more money than whatever meme degree you got.

>>295736
I would like to see an answer to this.

>>295795
He wont, he'll just continue this lame attempt at shitposting

>>295795
> Is this your first time encountering multiple engineers
Lol you know it is. Engineers relentlessly poke fun at people with meme degree. Hell even my professors would make fun of them.
>If you can't do this problem... well the psychology building is right next door.
>They won't teach you to think like this in philosophy
>If you didn't want a large work load you should have majored in English
Hell I remember my study group and I would use the psychology and English buildings to study in because the engineering, math, and physics buildings were always full of students but the psychology and English buildings never had anyone in them.

>>295804
I find it interesting that you feel engineering is intellectual in nature yet you vague strawman and apply supposition on a routine basis. It explains why most engineers are overweight boomers with simp obsessions. It honestly does. And if you think engineer salaries are something to brag about, you're even worse off than I thought. But this is all incredibly useful background to explain how the most recent election went the way it did.

>>295807
>I find it interesting that you feel engineering is intellectual in nature yet you vague strawman and apply supposition on a routine basis
Are you implying that calculus and physics do not require intelligence? You have to take some pretty serious classes to be an engineer. You can't just parrot your professor's opinions and get an A.

>>295809
Are you implying you need calculus to be a shitty engineer?

>>295810
Lmao you literally can't get a degree in engineering without taking calculus and physics.

Not trying to spoil anyone's fun, but if you cant tell that OP cant/wont argue in good faith and will merely resort to rhetoric (which isnt an argument) then IDK what to tell you

>>295814
OP has given up on defending his position entirely. He even said himself that college degrees can be participation trophies. Now he is screeching autistically because the engineers bullied him. Shit is fucking hilarious.

Good God this is such an obvious bait thread its not even funny.

>>295832
Once it was a bait thread. Now it's a fun thread for bullying OP.

I wanna milk this thread just to watch OP prostrate himself more. It's like the opposite of not feeding the troll; I want to keep poking it to see more creative methods of bait.

>>295804
>>295807
>>295809
>>295810

Imagine thinking you are smart because you have a meme degree. Imagine comparing yourself to scientists and engineers and then finding out you are the butt of every joke in the STEM departments.

This thread turned out to be really funny. Thanks for a laugh everyponer.

Is OP still around?

>>295971
Maybe OP committed sudoku

>If you don't have a degree, you really shouldn't voice your opinion at all because it's not rooted in any intellectual thought process
Would you mind describing your intellectual thought process here for the rest of us? It seems we can't really have this discussion without defining what exactly a good intellectual thought process really is, and determining whether or not college is actually the only way - or even the best way - of developing one.

>>295986
I think the OP is gone. He got BTFO'd pretty hard.

>>295988
He'll be back some other day I'm sure, like a comic book villain, running away while shouting that we haven't seen the last of Professor Intellectual.

>>295989
Assuming he actually has a degree (one could infer from his phraseology and 'arguments' that he doesnt) I'd wager we could deduce his area of study before he gets back.
English can be ruled out due to his inability to apply critical thinking/analysis and make cogent arguments. Likewise for Law. STEM is out by his obvious incomprehension of STEM.
Gender studies could apply but seems a bit off given his choice of topics to rage against. After a cursory glance my money is on Marketing undergrad by his (failed) attempts to push an idea that he evidently has an insufficient understand of.

>>295990
Whatever kind of degree he's got, it's definitely of the meme variety.

>>295988
Has anyone personally witnessed a shill get so ruthlessly buttblasted before? How will OP's anus ever recover?

>>295990
Either (((social services))) or (((business))) based upon his constant failure of using marketing strategies applied to shitty lefty le-plebbit maymays.

>>295992
No, nothing like this, not even on old /pol/.

>>295659
This is the funniest part >>295660
He has no answer for "Where do you think people with degrees in useless shit like sociology work?" so he cries "that's a sstrawman! ur pathetic! that guy's a redneck! you're a Q-lover!" in a row like he thinks that's an intelligent response.
He likely does this for free. I can't see ShariaBlue/Correct The Record/CCP paying this shill actual money.

>>295990
I could buy that he has a degree of some sort. Degrees like communication can even be obtained downies.

>>295992
>Has anyone personally witnessed a shill get so ruthlessly buttblasted before?
In all seriousness, this whole thread is likely projection due to an extreme case of buyer's remorse. OP's parents and school counselors talked him into taking out a $300k loan to go to some liberal arts school and get a useless meme degree. While he was in college he probably had fun and enjoyed all of the big-city "life experiences" read: getting drunk a lot and possibly contracting HIV through anonymous hookups he was told he would have, but as soon as he graduated he realized he still had the same shitty barista job he had before enrolling. Now he's on the hook for a non-dischargeable loan large enough that he might as well have bought a house. Aside from beating up random strangers on the internet, what can he do? He's trapped in the wage cage for the rest of his life and will probably never be out of debt.

Honestly? I think we should humor him; his life is probably shitty enough.

OP, we're sorry we bullied you. We're all really, really super impressed with your big, fancy degree in *subject*. Please come back and tell us how smart you are, we want to hear all about *subject*. If the existential misery in which you're mired due to the crippling debt you've assumed hasn't caused you to throw yourself off of a railroad bridge already, please come and share your vast store of life experience with us. We're all just dumb country hicks who don't know any better; please forgive us.

>>296027
>Honestly? I think we should humor him; his life is probably shitty enough.
No fuck that now is time for BULLY!

This thread is testament to the intellectual capabilities of pseudo career plebs like our dear "engineers" who can't escape my thread, obsessively come back and then, in a twist David Dunning would find ironic, calling it bullying and congratulating themselves.

Call this thread a case study in the online habits of mentally impaired children? Becoming indignant and lashing out in the absence of formal education...

Perhaps there's additional correlation? Lack of formal education not only leads to invalid and often dangerously incorrect political opinions, but it also leads to an increase in Simian-esque heated rhetoric and chest thumping.

Why can't the uneducated win based on civilized discussion? Because you simply don't know how to have a civilized discussion, silly.

>>296058
No one is lashing out at formal education. Okay, most arent lashing out against formal educarion. Assuming you're OP (dubious) there are a lot of questions you've neglected to answer.
Before you attempt to cast aspersions, it would do you credit to answer the legitimate criticisms you've otherwise committed response to.
That is, assuming you can.

>>296058
The engineers didn't lash out. They asked you questions that you refused to answer and then made fun of you when you were unable to do so. Imagine thinking you made people angry when people were hoping you would comeback so they could make fun of you. Also you don't really sound like the OP in other posts here. You sure you aren't one of his discord butt buddies?

>>296058
If fallacies if all you have left, then get some >110 IQ backup just to save face.
BTW, please don't be shy, enlighten us with your marxist (((education))).

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>>296058
Hey I don't know if you missed my post but I'm interested in having a serious discussion with you. Can you please reply to >>295986 ? I'd like to understand what exactly a good intellectual thought process consists of, and whether college really is the best way of developing one. If you don't reply to this I'll assume you're only baiting and don't actually care about college at all.

>>296077
>having a serious discussion with you
From one horsefucker to another, I would advise against that in the strongest of terms. Do whatever you like, but at least to my own knowledge OP has made it pretty clear he's only interested in taking jabs at people.

>>296060
>>Yes comrade! It is I, OP! Nothing to see here!
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>>295986
Having an educated opinion or putting forward a politicial philosophy means letting go of identity and ego in the face of facts.

People without degrees, almost exclusively Conservatives, tend to ignore facts and make up their own reality. They attack trans folk, minorities, women, progress, social support, Palestinian rights etc. Always a new enemy in the shadows, denying them the right to rule the planet.

The uneducated can't say "I didn't know that" in the face of facts. They can't learn and change their worldview (even when it means admitting they're wrong).

Look at their blind worship of Israel and demonization of China. If anything, they are backwards in their allegiance but they simply aren't educated so like a little child they don't know any better. To answer your request to know my thought processes, it starts with the realization that I might be wrong about something. That is a stance those of you without proper education simply can't do.

>>296077
Case in point right here >>296084. He's acting like he's responding to your argument until you get to the last paragraph, and he builds up to and ends with a sideswipe:
>That is a stance those of you without proper education simply can't do.
Just trying to slip in comments to bring you down. Again, I won't tell you what to do, but it might be best if you just call him out or make fun of him.

>>296084
>means letting go of identity and ego
As evidenced by the troves of lefty SJWs being cranked out of universities?
>almost exclusively conservatives
See above. Also, citation needed
>trans folk
I think you mean mentally disturbed people who think it's normal to want to mutilate their bodies AND push that agenda on children who arent developed enough (mentally and physically) to appreciate what they're being propagandized toward
>"I didnt know that"
To the contrary, it's the admission of nescience that leads one away from the blindly followed identitarian movements you cite. Trans and gay agendas might seem perfectly acceptable until one analyzes the evidence of what those movements actually DO, beyond their carefully (((scripted))) PR talking points.
>blind worship of Israel
Preaching to the choir
I could go on dissecting your obviously agenda-driven and logically fallacious position, but I'll suffice it to say
CITATION NEEDED

>>296084
Why have you got so much backwards?
Conservatives understand and respect facts. Leftists ignore reality in favour of whatever professional leftist "experts" were paid to say this week.

Here are some facts for you...
Human intelligence is highly heritable. Source: http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v16/n10/abs/mp201185a.html
The scientific consensus is that IQ tests are not racially biased. Source: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000305
Very poor Whites are about as intelligent as very wealthy Blacks. Source: http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html
Privately, intelligence experts hold more hereditarian views than they express in public. Source: http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1994egalitarianfiction.pdf#page=3
Black children raised in White households have similar IQ scores to Black children in Black households. Source: http://psycnet.apa.org/psycinfo/1977-07996-001
The average African IQ is estimated at 75. Source: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912003741
The average African-American IQ is 85, compared to the average White IQ of 100. Source: http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997mainstream.pdf#page=2
The White-Black gap in SAT scores, a proxy for IQ, is increasing. Source: http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html
Genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa. Source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115040765329081636
Intelligence has a 40-50% genetic basis. Source: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/10/news/la-heb-genetic-study-intelligence-20110809
IQ scores are the best predictor of success in Western society. Source: http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf#page=2
IQ is 75% heritable among Whites. Source: http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf#page=2
The average Hispanic IQ is 90. Source: http://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOPSYJ/TOPSYJ-3-9.pdf
The average IQ in Sub-Saharan Africa is 70. Source: http://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOPSYJ/TOPSYJ-3-9.pdf
The average IQ in southeast Asia is 87. Source: http://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOPSYJ/TOPSYJ-3-9.pdf
The heritability of IQ reaches .8 (80%) in later adulthood. Source: http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v20/n1/full/mp2014105a.html
Intelligence “is one of the best predictors of important life outcomes such as education, occupation, mental and physical health and illness, and mortality.” Source: http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v20/n1/full/mp2014105a.html
Intelligence is the most important trait for marriage. Source: http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v20/n1/full/mp2014105a.html
Heritability of IQ increases throughout life (except for very old age). Source: http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v20/n1/full/mp2014105a.html
The Black-White IQ gap is mostly heritable. Source: http://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOPSYJ/TOPSYJ-3-9.pdf
Higher IQ is linked to lower time preference. Source: http://www.yale.edu/scan/Shamosh_inpress_Intelligence.pdf
The IQ of a country’s rulers largely determines productivity and wealth. Source: https://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/57563/
Intelligent people are more likely to be physically active outside of work and to eat fruits and vegetables. Source: http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v20/n1/full/mp2014105a.html
Everyday life is an IQ test. Source: http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997whygmatters.pdf
“Intelligence and ability are personal traits that are stable over time and that the role of effort in academic performance is limited.” Source: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022440514000831
Stereotype effect explains a just “small to medium” amount of group differences in IQ. Source: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022440514000831
A meta-analysis concludes that stereotype threat predicts 3.3 IQ points of group differences in intelligence. Source: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022440514000831
There is pervasive publication bias in research claiming that “stereotype threat” is responsible for group differences in intelligence. Source: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022440514000831
When corrected for publishing biases, the impact of stereotype threat is statistically indistinguishable from zero. Source: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022440514000831
The world’s thirty least intelligent countries (except for Haiti) are all in sub-Saharan Africa. Source: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=8492613&fileId=S1832427400010045
Haiti, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Guatemala and Qatar are the least intelligent countries outside of sub-Saharan Africa. Source: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=8492613&fileId=S1832427400010045
Colder climates selected for higher IQ populations by imposing more complex survival requirements. Source: http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=8492613&fileId=S1832427400010045
Intelligence can be measured directly from brain scans, without tests of any sort. Source: http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nn.4135.html
The average criminal has an IQ of 85. Source: https://us.sagepub.com/en-us/nam/21st-century-criminology-a-reference-handbook/book232189
Most if not all psychological traits are substantially influenced by genetics. Source: http://cdp.sagepub.com/content/13/4/148
IQ scores predict life outcomes equally well for different races. Source: http://www.vdare.com/articles/indians-arent-that-intelligent-on-average
Muslim counties have an average IQ of just 81, 7.5 points lower than non-Muslim countries. Source: http://mankindquarterly.org/archive/paper.php?p=647
Arab countries have an average IQ of just 84. Source: http://mankindquarterly.org/archive/paper.php?p=647
Skin color is the best biological predictor of IQ. Source: http://mankindquarterly.org/archive/paper.php?p=647

>>296020
Maybe he isn't a shill. Perhapse this is an elaborate post intended to boost morale and make us laugh.

>>296077
Did you just troll myself and OP anon?

>>296090
Wew, that doesnt seem to have gone according to your plan, otherwise
This

>>296058
>le plebbit spacing
>can't use real formatting for paragraph use like an actual so-called autiste`

Keep horfing down the kike smeg like the good cuck you are.

>>296084
>putting forward a politicial philosophy means letting go of identity and ego in the face of facts
Maybe we think of the term "political philosophy" differently, but it seems to me that having a fixed political philosophy is the biggest obstacle most people face in the acceptance of facts. You approach a topic with a pre-conceived worldview constructed for you by someone else, you encounter a fact contrary to that worldview, and you proceed to rationalize away the fact. This is, of course, something people on both sides of mainstream politics tend to do. A conservative might rationalize away a fact indicating that Israel doesn't have the US's best interests in mind, and a liberal might rationalize away a fact indicating that black men do in fact commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes. To be fair of course, you and I probably do things like this on a regular basis as well.

>To answer your request to know my thought processes, it starts with the realization that I might be wrong about something.
Well that seems good to me.

>That is a stance those of you without proper education simply can't do.
But that seems like a load of nonsense to me. There are plenty of things one can do to learn intellectual humility that don't require you to go hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt and blow 2-8 years of your life in a classroom. The works of the great philosophers, for example, are in the public domain and can be studied without cost in your free time. The dialogues of Plato are an excellent guide to intellectual humility, as he almost always portrays Socrates merely as a man asking questions in the pursuit of learning who is more than happy to admit when he doesn't know something. In fact, I was very specifically thinking of Plato's portrayal of the Socratic method when I approached you with questions rather than snark.

Frankly, I'd argue that intellectual humility is what led me to the "far right" in the first place. /pol/ was different back around 2012; Anons liked to post well-reasoned arguments and informative posts with citations to support their positions. For example, in the face of strong evidence that an increase in homosexual activity would lead to a general decrease in public health, I accepted this position. We're obviously not arguing over homosexuality right now though.

Anyway, I think we agree that intellectual humility is a good place to launch your thought processes from. I guess my next question would be this: Why is it that a liberal arts degree is the best way to cultivate intellectual humility? What makes a self-study of philosophy insufficient for this? Because I can assure you that - even without a degree - I remind myself every day that I know that I know nothing.

>>296084
>The uneducated
Ahem.
Educated by who?
Educated about what?
Educated toward what purpose?
It sounds to me like hollow grandstanding and the tacit understanding that "education" equals indoctrination, not real knowledge. Desu.

>>295564
>How important is a college education when discussing or participating in politics?
It's not important at all. You can read and learn the same material on your own time and without needing to pay for a college class.

>>295596
>He said people without college degrees should be silent and their opinion isn't "rooted in any intellectual thought process".
Isn't it similar to how people are advocating for how "people should be banned from politics unless they served in the military"?

>>295590
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>>295671
What's wrong with working at Mickey D's or Wally World? If they're offering people a decent pay in exchange for them providing a service in their establishment, what's the issue? In fact, you'd actually learn MORE from working at either of those two places than you would going to the average college because you learn real life skills; like public speaking, accounting, inventory, maintenance, managing, etc.. The only "universal" issue that I'm aware of in regards to working in either of those two places (But, isn't exclusive to them because it happens everywhere, even in high level white-collar positions) is that retards insist on working there their entire lives and never hoping for or attempting to creating anything better.

>>295698
>Your country bans books, movies
Australia also banned small breasts.

>>295708
>but at least we're not on the brink of total collapse like the US currently is.
The U.S. isn't collapsing. Actually take a look at where all of the riots took place. Literally every single one was in Libshit cities, which represent an overwhelming minority of the country. Overall, crime has been on a nearly 30 year decline here.

>>296084
>People without degrees, almost exclusively Conservatives, tend to ignore facts and make up their own reality.
More like Conservatives are the ONLY ones who actually have to live in the real world, meanwhile baizuo keep pushing a fantasies that they dreamed up while sucking on a silver spoon.
>They attack trans folk,
<Sexual deviants who want to guilt trip feminists into having sex with them
>minorities,
<A plague in EVERY society
>women, progress,
Since fucking when?
>social support,
Welfare has done nothing EXCEPT bankrupt economies.
>Palestinian rights etc.
To be honest, the entire ME should just be glassed from orbit.

>>296112
>To be fair of course, you and I probably do things like this on a regular basis as well.
It's called "cognitive dissonance", and everyone is guilty of committing it in some regard. The important thing is that you acknowledge it, learn from it, and improve yourself.
>There are plenty of things one can do to learn intellectual humility that don't require you to go hundreds of thousands of dollars into debt and blow 2-8 years of your life in a classroom.
You could also bring up that philosophers like Socrates didn't actually have a "formal education". They just kept asking questions and used deductive reasoning.
>What makes a self-study of philosophy insufficient for this?
The only problem with "self-studying" any subject is that you're going into it all on your own and have to mostly figure it out for yourself. Having a mentor, teacher, or tutor can help in this regard (Which was the point of learning institutions). However, since the advent of the internet, much of this has become irrelevant as you can receive advise from people online. Although, this still results in the issue that you have to make sure that you're being advised by people who actually KNOW what they're talking about. Colleges and universities used to avoid this issue because the teacher actually had to be knowledgeable about the subject they were teaching on (And part of the reason why prices were so "high" in the first place, because you were learning from a pro), but times have changed and education administrations have realized that's it's much more profitable to suck the money out of the wallets of gullible idiots while handing them a fake degree.

>>296142
>video
Indeed. WE are the only ones understanding and fighting for the working class, not those fake sofa socialists.

>>296084
This is bait, but I'll bite.
>Having an educated opinion or putting forward a politicial philosophy means letting go of identity and ego in the face of facts.
Then why do so many of these "educated" liberals make being a progressive/leftist part of their identity? Just look at their social media pages. They are religious fanatics.

>People without degrees, almost exclusively Conservatives, tend to ignore facts and make up their own reality.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/06/02/in-changing-u-s-electorate-race-and-education-remain-stark-dividing-lines/
"Among voters who do not have a four-year college degree, 47% say they identify with or lean toward the GOP compared with 45% who identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party. "

>The uneducated can't say "I didn't know that" in the face of facts. They can't learn and change their worldview (even when it means admitting they're wrong).
Oh please. We have a saying in STEM "science progresses one funeral at a time." Educated people especially professors get so caught up in their own theories that they ignore evidence because it would destroy everything they have worked for. It takes time and dedication to master a subject, and people can't let go when everything they have worked for is proven wrong.

>Look at their blind worship of Israel and demonization of China.
This shit applies to highly educated generals and politicians too.

>To answer your request to know my thought processes, it starts with the realization that I might be wrong about something. That is a stance those of you without proper education simply can't do.
I highly doubt you have questioned anything you believe in your entire life. I suspect you went to college and took what your sociology professor said at face value because you were a naive 18 year old and he was an "expert." Now that you think what the "expert" thinks and that makes you smart. Now that you have spent time and effort learning something you are unwilling to let it go in the face of evidence. I can even provide evidence for this hypothesis; If you even respond to this post you are going to ignore the link I posted or dismiss it because it is inconvenient.
>>296098
Didn't see that shit when I went to fix a typo.

>>296142
Being in the military means serving your country in at least one role. It means having the will to stand up and fight for your country and what you want it to be. It means being able to pass the physical and mental standards of the military.
Should the vote of a man who serves his military, is willing to fight and die to protect his country and its people, and can pass the military's physical and mental standards have his vote rendered irrelevant by two gutter-trash faggots who cannot truthfully say any of those things about themselves?

>>296162
Baam! This so much!

Having a degree is nice and you learn some interesting things but if you think you need a degree to talk politics intelligently you are retarded. Anyone who says getting a degree means you learn nothing are retarded and anyone who says you need a degree to learn about politics is also retarded. A degree isn't about learning the knowledge as much as it is about getting a piece of paper for a field. You don't need a degree to learn about politics it just means you got a piece of paper for doing it.

>>296172
You obviously have not met many people in the military. Your average grunt is dumb as a sack of rocks. I respect vets a lot but I think you are smoking the military hero worship too much.

Also holy shit OP is a faggot

>>296172
>Should the vote of a man who serves his military, is willing to fight and die to protect his country and its people, and can pass the military's physical and mental standards have his vote rendered irrelevant by two gutter-trash faggots who cannot truthfully say any of those things about themselves?
Should two citizens, who provide essential services to the public, have their votes rendered irrelevant because they don't submit to the dominating party's ideology?

>>296180
When the dominating party's ideology is "A nation should serve the mental and racial health of its race", what kind of racemixing liberal/cuckservative faggot wouldn't want to serve that party?
If such a party became unbearably corrupt, there would be a militarized populace ready to take them out of power and install a better govt. A culture that respects its rights and earned them wouldn't give them up without a fight.

>>296180
>>296182
I feel like this is why my position of power scepticism, or whatever one would call it, is the best. Monarchy is the best system because it can't "become corrupt" like democracy can. People have no rights nor freedom and they know it. Unlike, democracy where people actually believe they are free and that they have rights, such as freedom of speech, which makes it way harder to form an opposition against the tyranny when people will telll you, we are "free".

>>296182
>When the dominating party's ideology is "A nation should serve the mental and racial health of its race"
Define what a "nation's race" is. The Americas belong to the American Indians until 5 centuries ago. The "Chinese" people in China are of Mongolian descent, not Chinese. Israel (As with much of the Middle East) was conquered by Turk invaders. Africa used to have a wider diversity of people even before the Europeans came.

>>296191
Of course, there will be moments were different people dispute over whose land is whose but if you have a country with a group that form a union through race, which is the basis for a real country btw, then their leaders should lookout for their people.

But I realize where this argument is going. You're going to question where this line is drawn and act like it's all arbitrary. Well, it partly is but also not since its based on a lot of things. But to make it clear to you with an example; Blacks and Whites don't get along and will never live in harmony, therefore they will need their own seprate country.

>>296191
The "American" Indians just got there before the real white Americans did. They were conquering tribes who conquered other tribes who conquered other tribes, but the Americans founded America and fought a war for its principles and put their flag on the moon. Why deify the indians just for being there? They were only there because they took that land from someone else, and if it's not okay when we did it then it wasn't okay when they did it.
I define American as white for two big reasons:
One, you need adjectives for african-american and all the other "not full Americans".
Two, when you think of "Peak Americana" you think of happy white families in a utopia the Boomers threw away out of malice and arrogance. American diners, and American suburbs. Not LA or San Francisco or Commiefornia.

Looking at all the good Nazi Germany did for the Germans despite the best efforts of the jewish banker-owned world, can you imagine how much good a NatSoc party could do with America for Americans?

>>296192
>but if you have a country with a group that form a union through race, which is the basis for a real country btw, then their leaders should lookout for their people.
From seeing the development of Singapore, Hong Kong, the U.S., and Switzerland, I have to drastically disagree. The real basis for a country's formation has always been about the population's ideals for how they want to live rather than depending everything on one's race. Even the argument that the American revolution was a "white man's war" falls flat when you look at the (English originated) Continental Army relying upon black slaves and American Indians for troops and support, in addition to the French army.

>>296193
>Looking at all the good Nazi Germany did for the Germans despite the best efforts of the jewish banker-owned world, can you imagine how much good a NatSoc party could do with America for Americans?
You mean the anti-smoking and animal protection programs? India has those same laws, so should we take hints from them in regards to how to run our countries? Or do you mean the push against sexual degeneracy and initiating state-controlled markets to prevent greed? Wait, both the USSR and West Taiwan have also enacted the same exact laws, so we should start taking hints from them in regards to how countries should be run? Right?

As I said in a completely different thread, there have been over 200 attempts in the past 120 years to create a working Socialists society; across every single geography, race, and policy (Some even in the same countries, back-to-back). And, if you're going to ask, yes, some of these countries do have their own Nazi parties. If, at least, ONE of them was actually capable of creating a sustainable government for longer than decade, we would have heard of it by now. None of them have, and that's leaving out the 100+ million bodycount (Caused during "peace time") that would make just about any reasonable person swear off anyone trying to advocate for anything close to whatever interpretation of "Socialism" you're advocating for.
<If a colony of less than 100 people ended up dropping the concept in order to survive, how do you expect to make an entire nation survive on it?

>>296193
>Two, when you think of "Peak Americana" you think of happy white families in a utopia the Boomers threw away out of malice and arrogance. American diners, and American suburbs. Not LA or San Francisco or Commiefornia.
Also, the fuck are you talking about in regards to this? Immediately after the U.S. ended WWII, the country immediately faced a depression. Continuing on into the 1950's, if you actually WATCHED some of the programs that they aired, you'd realize that they were NO saints. They had the same issues that exist today, except they were just less emotional about how to resolve them (For example): https://invidio.us/watch?v=97H6H3zIekc
And, during the 1960's, you had riots and bombings (And, groups like the Weathermen) happening across the country for who knows what because it was a different thing each week.

Nearly all the talk about Post-WWII U.S. being a "utopia" is nothing more than modern revision. If you have done some actual research, you'd KNOW that.

>>296193
Typical jew-loving britcuck throwing smoke, gaslighting, and dropping red herrings. The northern U natives were not amerimutts. They have been genetically located as seafarers from Hokkaido in modern day Japan around 23,000 years ago that traveled elsewhere due to overpopulation. There's a 3 hour documentary on that which COMPLETELY dismantles the """clovid peeplez furst""" propaganda, you pathetic bootlicking goy. Good job, you can now collent your 0.02 shekels for a successful post.

>>296208
Funny you bring THAT up. All of the nonsense about the (((jewclear family))) was a painfully inefficient, rice-paper thin frame up intended to further promote the idea of massively expanding tax payers for the next 3-5 generations so that yet more amerimutt pensioners would be funded, which would obviously cripple the economy multiple times. Post World War Jew-2 was a living nightmare far worse than the so-called Great Depression.

>>295564

If you're taking useful courses they probably won't help you discuss politics other than economics maybe. I had to take two writing courses for my engineering degree so I took social studies. It was all complete horse crap but now people can't just spew random buzzwords to try and shut me up.

>>296207
>From seeing the development of Singapore, Hong Kong, the U.S., and Switzerland, I have to drastically disagree. The real basis for a country's formation has always been about the population's ideals for how they want to live rather than depending everything on one's race
I don't really see how this argument is suppose to prove anything. The first sentence is questionable as proof since, well whatever development that has happened in these countries acan really depend on who you ask and you also don't go into what specifically that has happened in these countries to support your conclusion that comes in the next sentence.
>The real basis for a country's formation has always been about the population's ideals for how they want to live rather than depending everything on one's race.
This is your claim but you haven't really supported it. Another thing is that you avoided or missed, or whatever, to comment on my last paragraph.
Do you think that two different races can share a society together without the destruction of one of them or civil war? It is clearly something that isn't natural, right? And if there weren't forces shoving these magnets together, segregation would happen by itself.

>>296277
Because with every post you make, you're effectively validating OP's position. His premise is false in the assumption that a college education/degree is the dividing line for being able to argue politics, but it's pretty clear that you're not qualified for whatever the actual reason is.

>TFW anons band together to throw out a shill for maybe the first time ever and then the conversation starts to devolve into namecalling anyway
Really guys? Do you really want to go there?

>>296282
Anon is full of faggotry and retardation, but shills decide to come here and be niggers as well. People can stomach some gayness, but no one can tolerate niggers.

>>296286
Very well. Have at one another, if you must.
>>296288
Thanks for the heads up.

>>296288
>its one very dedicated shill
First of all, you're using the word 'shill' wrong, just as he used the term 'cuck' wrong. You do your argument no service by repeating his mistake.
Secondly, it's not just one poster who criticizes you, it's actually dozens of anons who individually get so tired of your lazy argumentation and unsupportable premises that they are individually boiling over with frustration and decide to tell you off.
A more reasonable British poster would take that as evidence that he's taking excessive liberties with the site and his posting, but we all know what you're gonna do.
I'm now going to remove the derailing posts (yours) as they represent precisely the sort of derailing of the topic that you and I have spoken about at length.

>>296291
>you're using the word 'shill' wrong
As much as I respect the protection of language through remembering definitions, I would still like to point out that there are threads made with the purpose to demoralize the user base, create artificial dissonance (or at least the appearance of such), or simply to make pure screenshot fodder - to create the appearance that the average user of this site supports pedophilia, for instance. You know the one I'm referring to.
So, first of all, "shill" has become a term to quickly refer to people who make such threads with some ulterior motive in mind - since before a time /mlpol/ was even thought. I am reasonably sure that the 4/pol/ posters back then would've interpreted a "shill" to be that in the context of a political imageboard, and not someone attempting to sell you some used kitchenware.
Second, it feels a bit weird that the bong shitposter gets removed while those threads are sill up. I didn't see his last post, and so I admit, I am missing some context. Nevertheless, it does feel like a very odd juxtaposition, considering the blatant and obvious "shilling" going on, with this other popular definition in mind.

>>296291
If he was mad at me because he hates when people make off-topic posts, he would get angry at others who post off topic. He would get angry at himself for trying to drag this debunked bait thread down into a shouting contest, too.
Have you ever met someone who gets mad at you for no reason, and then tries to contrive some justification for it?

>>296291
I know I make off-topic posts without realizing sometimes. But if the post of the faggot shrieking every bad word he knows at me isn't off-topic, what is?
Come to think of it, the "americans are from hokkaido" part of his response was off-topic too. Even if the first ever Americans were from spain or zimbabwe or japan or anywhere else, it doesn't address my point about America.

Is this a meta thread now? I guess this is a meta thread now.
>>296296
>why the bong
Cuz its Nigel. He of all posters should know better, and outside illegal content he will be the first to be censured because he has the longest track record of operating outside the very reasonable expectations of posters, and has been treated with more patience and cons9deration (moderation-wise) than virtually (if not literally) all other posters combined. Simply, he of all people should know better.
>>296301
Cry more, this post is irrelevant and biased speculation.
>>296302
And yet, in all his salt he manages to make a point.
I forgot to cap code, but it should be obvious who posted this

>>296303
It's not
>why the bong
it's more like
>why not the other shit, that are obvious shill threads?
With the added clarification, that I am indeed using the Afghan rocket dancer news bulletin definition of "shill", and not the one someone might fall back on as a rhetorical move to justify inaction against jewish psy-op shilling. You know. Hypothetically.

>>296304
The referenced thread is a perfect example. The premise and agenda of OP/thread was thoroughly btfo to the amusement of most. There was a disappointing lack of horsepussy, Garfield posting, bronco-posting, or other more overt measures against shill threads. While staff was discussing how to deal with it, users had quickly made the thread fun and better through engagement. Why erase the record of it? It depicts a good spectrum of positions which makes detection of irrational positions simple.

>>296307
BTFO? Are you kidding? I'm bored. I came here looking for intelligent discourse and found a bunch of mentally impaired children giving one another handjobs. It's embarrassing and cringe af. You're just lonely little white boys lacking emotional maturity or emotional intelligence and you're making your entire argument look like a parody of modern fash American men.

"Horse pussy" is your only defense? That's all you can do is desperately throw cartoons at the problem? Are you 13? Do you listen to Linkin Park when your mom doesn't let you have dessert until you finish your brussel sprouts? Jesus fucking Christ it's so sad. I don't even know where to begin.

There's a reason the white race is crumbling. The reason, my edgy little uneducated GED waving friends, is you.

>>296307
>While staff was discussing how to deal with it
One would image there isn't very much to discuss there.
>Why erase the record of it?
Record of it will be erased eventually one way or the other, but up until that point, every second that passes with it visible in the catalog is an opportunity to capture "proof" of the site's supposed degeneracy, in order to misrepresent the general opinions of the site's community. That was probably the primary reason for its existence in the first place. Even the wording of it suggests as much, with the whole "my fellow whites" thing going on. That is the immediate reason that comes to mind, anyway.
About the same goes for this very thread. Easily detected copy pasta from various image boards. And even with all the horsepussy, there are anons above unironically discussing the premise itself, just like that. How some swallow bait this obvious - even after the volleys - is beyond me, but it happened. That is all material that can be used for "researching da ebil nahtsees" that this faggot will probably take back to some antifa discord server to discuss and use in some manner or the other. That alone might not seem like much, but I'd wager they count these as small victories. Okay, fine, they don't hurt this website all that much that it would hurt 4chan - we still have enough space to breathe and discuss all kinds of other shit in some other threads - but all of this has the chance to get out of hand and increase in effectiveness very quickly, unless rule 4 is demonstrated to be taken seriously.

>>296309
Scroll up and answer some of the questions asked of you, if you can.

>>296309
>BTFO the post
>>296313
Yeah, that would be amusing.

>>296307
>users had quickly made the thread fun and better through engagement. Why erase the record of it?
Pretty much this.

>>296311
Relax anon.

>>296322
I'll make it a point to not relax now. That'll fucking show you.
Alright, I'm not that upset, actually. Now please read that post again without imagining me upset, because I genuinely do think the point there is worth considering without getting overly concerned.

>>296309
I get off to shill BTFO tears. That's some good shit right here. Please just disengage and construct better arguments next time.

>>296328
Hol' up, did you say MY TRIGGER WORDS
Ah, you did. Now, shall I aim to please with these