If there is going to be a civil war in a western country due to the extreme political shift from internationalism/socialism to nationalism where do you think the first one will be? How many parties will be evolved both internally and externally? And finally how do you think the sides in the conflict will perform?
my bet is either the USA or the UK because Anglo-sphere supremacy.
>Likely sides in the USA
Patriots/Nationalists - mix of Centralists, libertarians, authoritarian nationalists, National Socialists, and Ironically ANCAPs.
Socialists/Black Bloc - left leaning Centralists, Socialists, Communists, Anarcho-Communists, Illegals, maybe 60-70% of the black community and about 50% Mexican/Latino community.
CIA/Deep-state and its lackeys - the Central intelligence community, Hillary supporting left, feminists, the largest group of centralists who cant into politics.
>External forces getting a slice
China, Russia, Mexico, and ISIS terror cells. (if the UK isn't also wrapped up with their own civil war then them and Canada might join in)
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It won't be that clean-cut. Go do some reading about the Yugoslavian break-up, then multiply that by a thousand. It's likely going to come down to the county level. In addition, you're going to have your "BASED BLACKS XD" who recognize that whitey is their best bet for quality of life, and then you're going to have infiltrators who exploit the white man's desire to be liked by assorted mud people. Couple that with the fact that some whites, because of their jewish brainwashing, will literally die fighting you.
Forget the concept of sides. It's going to be allies of opportunity and sucker-punches.
Forget the concept of sides. It's going to be allies of opportunity and sucker-punches.
>>150041
the sides ive listed are all very generic of course a modern civil war is far more complex than those guys are with us those aren't. these are just broad groupings of likely allies of opportunity
the sides ive listed are all very generic of course a modern civil war is far more complex than those guys are with us those aren't. these are just broad groupings of likely allies of opportunity
>>150042
We're not even in a civil war yet, and we've seen altlight faggots pass dox along to antifa. Like I said man, forget the concept of sides. Especially once people start losing family members to wartime accidents. Grief clouds the mind, and if you can get somebody killed by telling the local thugs they're Nazis/antifa/Feds/anarchists, don't be surprised when it happens. I've been in a guerrilla war, so I know how bad it can get. And it can get fucking BAD.
We're not even in a civil war yet, and we've seen altlight faggots pass dox along to antifa. Like I said man, forget the concept of sides. Especially once people start losing family members to wartime accidents. Grief clouds the mind, and if you can get somebody killed by telling the local thugs they're Nazis/antifa/Feds/anarchists, don't be surprised when it happens. I've been in a guerrilla war, so I know how bad it can get. And it can get fucking BAD.
>>150045
I am under no illusion that shit gets bad. the point of the thread is to guess IF one was to break out in a country what one would it be and what would the generalized 'sides' be. Im not here to get into insurgency and counter insurgency tactics (though im not opposed to it either) im trying to start a discussion
I am under no illusion that shit gets bad. the point of the thread is to guess IF one was to break out in a country what one would it be and what would the generalized 'sides' be. Im not here to get into insurgency and counter insurgency tactics (though im not opposed to it either) im trying to start a discussion
>>150046
We're having a discussion. I'll change gears though. Expect to see a tremendous amount of outside interference. America has made a huge number of enemies, even among her so-called "allies". Expect to see all kinds of cool shit popping up in local black markets. If things keep going the direction they're going, you will get to own an anti-tank weapon in your lifetime. They're going to be that prolific because Russia and China have made millions of them. And they'll gladly turn a quick shekel in an American crisis.
We're having a discussion. I'll change gears though. Expect to see a tremendous amount of outside interference. America has made a huge number of enemies, even among her so-called "allies". Expect to see all kinds of cool shit popping up in local black markets. If things keep going the direction they're going, you will get to own an anti-tank weapon in your lifetime. They're going to be that prolific because Russia and China have made millions of them. And they'll gladly turn a quick shekel in an American crisis.
>Deep south but surrounded by nignogs at every corner
Pray for me. It will be a blood bath here.
Pray for me. It will be a blood bath here.
>>150055
Same here. I'm also the only one in my family who is armed. Just a budget AR-15, but nowhere near enough ammo for a civil war tier happening.
I worry about my sister. She lives in fucking Birmingham, Alabama. That's one of the last places on Earth that I'd want to be if civil war 2: electic boogaloo kicks off.
Same here. I'm also the only one in my family who is armed. Just a budget AR-15, but nowhere near enough ammo for a civil war tier happening.
I worry about my sister. She lives in fucking Birmingham, Alabama. That's one of the last places on Earth that I'd want to be if civil war 2: electic boogaloo kicks off.
>>150066
>>150055
Guys, get out of the cities. Go to the smaller towns. You don't even need to run away to the >1000 person towns, go to the smaller 4500-7500 person towns. The paycut you'll take will be offset by the lower cost of living. And it will save your lives. I already did it, my growing pains are gone after 2 years.
>>150055
Guys, get out of the cities. Go to the smaller towns. You don't even need to run away to the >1000 person towns, go to the smaller 4500-7500 person towns. The paycut you'll take will be offset by the lower cost of living. And it will save your lives. I already did it, my growing pains are gone after 2 years.
>>150067
Just that, >1000 town, 40 minutes outside major city, not even on main freeway.
Totally ready to annihilate control-freak leftists.
Just that, >1000 town, 40 minutes outside major city, not even on main freeway.
Totally ready to annihilate control-freak leftists.
>>150067
>Implying I'm in the city
I'm outside the city. But there are still niggers everywhere. The whole state will be up in flames. It doesn't matter how far you live outside the city.
>Implying I'm in the city
I'm outside the city. But there are still niggers everywhere. The whole state will be up in flames. It doesn't matter how far you live outside the city.
>>150072
Well shit man. You got a bad county. Are your niggers at least the folksy, shuck-and-jive, polite kind? My county is 20% black, but they're all countrified and polite.
Well shit man. You got a bad county. Are your niggers at least the folksy, shuck-and-jive, polite kind? My county is 20% black, but they're all countrified and polite.
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>>150041
This. If you're going to study any conflict to get a field, it would be the Yugoslavian Civil War. It will be somewhat similar, except more fragmented, more bloodshed, and more corny propaganda videos.
How you'll perform won't be based on how strong you are, how fast you are, or what special moves you know but rather how much you can carry, how far you can carry it, and how well you can hide yourself.
If you're in a city you're basically dead for a number of reasons: concentrations of minorities and libtards, hazards, and supply line vulnerabilities. Once food gets cut off they'll all turn on each other, probably even literally eat each other. Suburbs are iffy but you can survive if your neighborhood is trustworthy and if you have a means of supply. Don't doubt they'll turn on you if they see you better fed than they are.
The military is a wild card but isn't as important as statists think it is. Depending on what side command takes entire divisions could mutiny. Although highly skilled and trained operatives are welcome, the main benefit of military support would be equipment that may become available to militias.
If you want to fight and survive then you will rely on guerrilla warfare using the ample parks and forests. Know how to conceal yourself with not just camouflage but from thermal imaging as well, because drones will be used liberally. If your militia leader is decent at tactics you should be able to contribute well, as hiding and attacking vulnerable targets will be the way to defeat the enemy. Anti-tank and anti-air weapons will cause huge economic losses for the enemy. Know how to live off the land and where to scavenge and store supplies. Take a bit of gold with you to barter with shopkeepers. Most regrettably but importantly, have the mindset you'll probably lose everyone you love. You cannot protect, but you can punish, and you can make sure this never happens again to your people.
I'm sure there is a good book out there that describes everything you need to know tactics and know-how wise (and I don't mean the a—-ist c--kb--k).
>>150045
Alt-lite, really? Get their info and give them a taste of their own medicine when the time comes.
As for what sides will be which, expect factions of every separatist group imaginable as well as ideological groups. If you're lucky you'll live in a (non-retarded) state that breaks away without federal interference and becomes a Russian puppet. Otherwise it will be all against all.
There will be communists, eco-terrorists, minority gangs, government employees, and "moderate socialists" who "deplore the use of violence" but "have not choice" against "those racist nationalists."
On the other side you will have Confederates, 1776'ers, AnCaps and friends (I'll be here), fascists, and of course the run-of-the-mill Republicans who "just want to restore order."
Of course these groups will very lose and may or may not coordinate. If you want to "win" you have to be utterly pragmatic. "Moderates" will not be shooting-enemies but you have to have propaganda to show how their policies led to the inevitable catastrophe, because these people WILL defend griffons for the mess they caused. On the flip side of the coin, leftists will use the "race-war now" spergs to convince zebras and tamales that our side wants to kill them all rather than have independent ethnostates (they'll probably resist this anyway 'cause of "muh entitlements," but they'll learn to like it).
This. If you're going to study any conflict to get a field, it would be the Yugoslavian Civil War. It will be somewhat similar, except more fragmented, more bloodshed, and more corny propaganda videos.
How you'll perform won't be based on how strong you are, how fast you are, or what special moves you know but rather how much you can carry, how far you can carry it, and how well you can hide yourself.
If you're in a city you're basically dead for a number of reasons: concentrations of minorities and libtards, hazards, and supply line vulnerabilities. Once food gets cut off they'll all turn on each other, probably even literally eat each other. Suburbs are iffy but you can survive if your neighborhood is trustworthy and if you have a means of supply. Don't doubt they'll turn on you if they see you better fed than they are.
The military is a wild card but isn't as important as statists think it is. Depending on what side command takes entire divisions could mutiny. Although highly skilled and trained operatives are welcome, the main benefit of military support would be equipment that may become available to militias.
If you want to fight and survive then you will rely on guerrilla warfare using the ample parks and forests. Know how to conceal yourself with not just camouflage but from thermal imaging as well, because drones will be used liberally. If your militia leader is decent at tactics you should be able to contribute well, as hiding and attacking vulnerable targets will be the way to defeat the enemy. Anti-tank and anti-air weapons will cause huge economic losses for the enemy. Know how to live off the land and where to scavenge and store supplies. Take a bit of gold with you to barter with shopkeepers. Most regrettably but importantly, have the mindset you'll probably lose everyone you love. You cannot protect, but you can punish, and you can make sure this never happens again to your people.
I'm sure there is a good book out there that describes everything you need to know tactics and know-how wise (and I don't mean the a—-ist c--kb--k).
>>150045
Alt-lite, really? Get their info and give them a taste of their own medicine when the time comes.
As for what sides will be which, expect factions of every separatist group imaginable as well as ideological groups. If you're lucky you'll live in a (non-retarded) state that breaks away without federal interference and becomes a Russian puppet. Otherwise it will be all against all.
There will be communists, eco-terrorists, minority gangs, government employees, and "moderate socialists" who "deplore the use of violence" but "have not choice" against "those racist nationalists."
On the other side you will have Confederates, 1776'ers, AnCaps and friends (I'll be here), fascists, and of course the run-of-the-mill Republicans who "just want to restore order."
Of course these groups will very lose and may or may not coordinate. If you want to "win" you have to be utterly pragmatic. "Moderates" will not be shooting-enemies but you have to have propaganda to show how their policies led to the inevitable catastrophe, because these people WILL defend griffons for the mess they caused. On the flip side of the coin, leftists will use the "race-war now" spergs to convince zebras and tamales that our side wants to kill them all rather than have independent ethnostates (they'll probably resist this anyway 'cause of "muh entitlements," but they'll learn to like it).
>>150076
They mostly stick to their own neighborhoods. The most I can really complain about is a higher crime in their 'hoods' (big surprise) and they're always talking about fucking fried chicken and have no brains at all.
But yeah, they're mostly polite and don't start 'nuffin.
I'd say like 3 out of 4 of the niggers I meet are okay. If not a bit slow in the head.
They mostly stick to their own neighborhoods. The most I can really complain about is a higher crime in their 'hoods' (big surprise) and they're always talking about fucking fried chicken and have no brains at all.
But yeah, they're mostly polite and don't start 'nuffin.
I'd say like 3 out of 4 of the niggers I meet are okay. If not a bit slow in the head.
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The more I see the news and leftists getting away with everything and then accusing us of shit, the worse my civil war blueballs get.
If we did it would be a clusterfuck of countries involving themselves to keep us the top dog world police scape goat so none of them have to do it. China would fuck us all in the ass in the end.
Any country easily balkanizable is an easy prey for a civil war.
- As for the US I don't see it likely. Too many people know how to take and use a weapon, so in the case the goverment rises against their own people, they know they are dead.
- Spain with the Catalonia referendum seems a bit more likely. Spain always had inner turmoil with the Basque people and the ETA; but lately ETA dissolved and I don't see much of a warmongering sentiment on Catalonia to warrant a civil war.
- Cuba will remain communist because the US needs a scapegoat to use in moments of low approval.
- Colombia and Mexico's narcos will try to drag their populace to a civil war if they try to disband them. I don't know much about Mexican situation, but FARC in Colombia has hell a lot of economic and political power and much weaponry.
- Venezuela seems the most likely to be the first. I don't know how much more will Maduro last but he doesn't seem to be much of a sly fuck as Fidel Castro was.
- As for the US I don't see it likely. Too many people know how to take and use a weapon, so in the case the goverment rises against their own people, they know they are dead.
- Spain with the Catalonia referendum seems a bit more likely. Spain always had inner turmoil with the Basque people and the ETA; but lately ETA dissolved and I don't see much of a warmongering sentiment on Catalonia to warrant a civil war.
- Cuba will remain communist because the US needs a scapegoat to use in moments of low approval.
- Colombia and Mexico's narcos will try to drag their populace to a civil war if they try to disband them. I don't know much about Mexican situation, but FARC in Colombia has hell a lot of economic and political power and much weaponry.
- Venezuela seems the most likely to be the first. I don't know how much more will Maduro last but he doesn't seem to be much of a sly fuck as Fidel Castro was.
I don't see the US breaking out into a literal civil war any time soon. I think we're more likely to see a growing polarization between blue areas and red areas. I suspect if the Republicans continue moving the direction they're moving and keep winning elections we're going to see blue areas rebelling more and more, if the left begins taking power you'll see the same thing from red areas. I also think that large, dense blue cities are getting to be kind of a powder keg. I would say that places like San Francisco where you have huge income gaps and out of control rising land value are going to start unraveling rapidly in the next 5-10 years. If the real estate bubble in those places bursts you'll probably see them start to go the way of Detroit and Chicago, if it continues growing I suspect the homeless people and various nigs and whatnot displaced from gentrified areas are going to start getting more hostile. The left always eats its own.
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>>150246
The "Blackpill" is a psychological warfare attack designed to demoralize you into giving up. They're meant to make you roll over and die. First figuratively and then literally. Preparedness is the opposite of a blackpill. Preparedness is about overcoming problems rather than giving up in the face of them.
There is nothing "blackpilled" about having the skills and supplies necessary to survive in a civil war situation. Odds are very good that you'll never put those skills to use in a civil war. It's far more likely that your preparations will pay off for far more minor problems. Blizzard ices over the roads? Your food stores will keep you fed. Utilities fuck up a water main, and your water is unpotable temporarily? Your ability to purify drinking water will come in handy. Tornado fucks up the local power plant and you'll be without electricity for a few days? Good thing that you don't NEED electricity or have a contingency plan to keep your essentials charged.
Don't listen to blackpills. Nothing good will come from giving them any of your attention. Focus on being productive.
The "Blackpill" is a psychological warfare attack designed to demoralize you into giving up. They're meant to make you roll over and die. First figuratively and then literally. Preparedness is the opposite of a blackpill. Preparedness is about overcoming problems rather than giving up in the face of them.
There is nothing "blackpilled" about having the skills and supplies necessary to survive in a civil war situation. Odds are very good that you'll never put those skills to use in a civil war. It's far more likely that your preparations will pay off for far more minor problems. Blizzard ices over the roads? Your food stores will keep you fed. Utilities fuck up a water main, and your water is unpotable temporarily? Your ability to purify drinking water will come in handy. Tornado fucks up the local power plant and you'll be without electricity for a few days? Good thing that you don't NEED electricity or have a contingency plan to keep your essentials charged.
Don't listen to blackpills. Nothing good will come from giving them any of your attention. Focus on being productive.
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Alright bringing my own thread back from the dead so I don't need make a new one and clog up the catalog more.
So I recently came across a youtube video created by a "Tim Pool" who is a clear leftest, recently he has been calling out the progressives and communists in the MSM and ANTIFA more than usual and one of his latest videos "This Is Just The Beginning / From Culture War To Civil War" where he shows a article from the New Yorker by Robin Wright (written August 14th 2017) and another from Splinter once/recently funded by ABC/Disney written this month advocating for violence and bombings to be carried out "by the people" against the "fascist enabling" population. along with tweets from the blue checkmarks, the most important one imo being a photo of "The pyramid of white supremacy" (see attached pics) that seemingly targets anyone who even remotely agrees with the right OR are apolitical as being possible targets.
>video link (hooktube to prevent adrev/views)
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=UzsRfIWA2s0
I'm worried, that eventually the tolerance of the Centrists, Center-Right, and Right population will run out. And taking into account of everything that's now happening that the left is getting even more pissed about along with the cycles of history as posted here, we might be getting pretty close to our tipping point.
https://mlpol.net/mlpol/res/155423.html
https://mlpol.net/mlpol/res/155520.html
https://mlpol.net/mlpol/res/154706.html
What will the future of America be?
So I recently came across a youtube video created by a "Tim Pool" who is a clear leftest, recently he has been calling out the progressives and communists in the MSM and ANTIFA more than usual and one of his latest videos "This Is Just The Beginning / From Culture War To Civil War" where he shows a article from the New Yorker by Robin Wright (written August 14th 2017) and another from Splinter once/recently funded by ABC/Disney written this month advocating for violence and bombings to be carried out "by the people" against the "fascist enabling" population. along with tweets from the blue checkmarks, the most important one imo being a photo of "The pyramid of white supremacy" (see attached pics) that seemingly targets anyone who even remotely agrees with the right OR are apolitical as being possible targets.
>video link (hooktube to prevent adrev/views)
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=UzsRfIWA2s0
I'm worried, that eventually the tolerance of the Centrists, Center-Right, and Right population will run out. And taking into account of everything that's now happening that the left is getting even more pissed about along with the cycles of history as posted here, we might be getting pretty close to our tipping point.
https://mlpol.net/mlpol/res/155423.html
https://mlpol.net/mlpol/res/155520.html
https://mlpol.net/mlpol/res/154706.html
What will the future of America be?
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