The clown in DC have once again failed to do their only job and have shut down the government, over something about illegals getting free healthcare.
How long do you think this one will this one last? What are the political implications? Will the Democrats fold and vote to end the shut down?
>>399045I actually think it will last a while. The democrats will want to push this to Christmas so they can say Trump is the Grinch. There is nothing right now that is a festivity they can make people suffer through and then blame Trump for the suffering.
The wildcard is if the cuts starts to hurt the democrat controlled government operations and they get backlash internally.
>>399047>The democrats will want to push this to Christmas so they can say Trump is the Grinch.So long as they keep voting again reopening the government, the public will know they're at fault.
The shutdown hurts Democrat constituents much more than it hurts Republicans. Government workers and welfare recipients are much more likely to be Democrats. The pressure on democrats will be immense.
>wildcard is if the cuts starts to hurt the democrat controlled government operations and they get backlash internallyTrump just used the shutdown as a precursor to fire 150k government workers moments ago, and has promised to fire more. The shutdown gives him special authority to cut government spending, and he's not afraid to use it.
I don't see a future where this turns out good for Democrats.
>>399048>So long as they keep voting again reopening the government, the public will know they're at fault.Well... The truth hasn't stopped the democrats from trying to spin things before. And they got a select number of networks that will gladly repeat their narrative.
But I agree that it will be hard for them to lay the blame on Trump. Especially with them voting down the "Lets just keep the gov funded for 4 weeks while we talk things out".
>>399049Also because this exact same budget bill was passed in March, and under the Biden regime. They have voted for this before; there's no reason not to vote for it now.
>>399061I know, finally.
hopefully the magic money rivers will slow down a bit. Silver is already up to $46/ounce, just a few months ago it was 30. maybe people are finally starting to notice.
The next big thing will probably be the car industry finally imploding, hopefully topped off with the everything bubble exploding.
The government shut down!? I don't get it. How was I able to make it through my entire day as if it was just another day, without the government?
What what do you mean government shutdown? Like do they just stop doing stuff?
>>399067They stop all "non essential services".
The government needs a budget to stay open, and since they could not agree on a budget the government is closed.
>>399047Based , I want my vacation (furlough) to last at least another few weeks.
Looks like it's reopening.
Only took a goddamn month.
Democrats made their own voters suffer without gibs for 40 days, and they did it for NOTHING
>>400455>reopeningThat's bad news. If it is open, then it is expending our money to feed the parasites.
Not good.
>>400456>>400457>>400458>>400459>>400460Delicious.
>>400462>Subsides for health careThis is absurd and has a very straight forward solution. Bring the Cuban hospitals to American, they will operate for less than 1/10th of the cost. No premiums, no bullshit. Free Market baby.
>>400463>If it is open, then it is expending our moneyIt spends money no matter what. You still pay taxes for the entire month it was shut down, except with no services in return. Every day it was shut down wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars.
>>400464>Every day it was shut down wasted hundreds of thousands of dollars.A billions were saved for not paying salaries.
>>400465>A billions were saved for not paying salaries.Not even. All that money has to be retroactively paid. The furloughed bureaucrats are about to get a 40 day paycheck for sitting on their asses. The only thing more wasteful than an open government is a shutdown government.
>>400466>The furloughed bureaucrats are about to get a 40 day paycheck for sitting on their asses.Perhaps, but that can be fixed by firing 90 percent of the parasites.
>>400467Whatever the case, a massive amount of your tax money was wasted this past month, all just do that Democrats could look tough before the off-year elections last Tuesday. It's fucking bullshit.
This whole thing was democrats throwing a hissy fit over bullshit expenses, and in the end they got next to nothing. What was the point.
What is it with redditfags believing in the exact inverse of the political reality? What they type is only true if you swap the two sides in question. It's like witnessing a burglar robbing a house and turning to me saying it's the homeowner who was robbing the burglar. It's truly fascinating and horrifying.
>>400482>What was the point.The point was "standing up to the orange man". And then when that didn't work after a week they doubled down to avoid backlash from their base; and then after another week they tripled down because sunk cost intensified the backlash they would face.
>What is it with redditfags believing in the exact inverse of the political reality?You might have noticed by now that reddit is a circle jerk, where dissenting opinions are outright banned (not just shouted away). These people live in their own reality bubble.
>It's like witnessing a burglar robbing a house and turning to me saying it's the homeowner who was robbing the burglar.Burglars sue homeowners for injuries sustained during burglary all the time. These people are similar in their lack of shame, sense of entitlement, and refusal to take accountability for their actions.
Surely there are more concessions but this is what I know so far.
>>400691From what it looks like, no.
These aren't even really concessions. They weren't part of the debate or conditions for reopening. It's just rider bullshit that weasels slipped in at the last minute because they could.