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Transhumanism Politics
Anonymous
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No.398307
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Biotechnology and AI are growing at an exponential rate and they have already begun to merge. The next evolution of our species is here, but how it looks going forward is up to all of us. How should implants be used? What should augmentation ethics look like? What limits should be placed on AI? Troons and shitlibs should not be the only ones having this discussion.
Anonymous
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Bring a bunch of really really smart guys and let them put machines on our bodies
Anonymous
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No.398317
>>398310
Way ahead of you. Dangerousthings.com
Anonymous
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>>398307
>Biotechnology and AI are growing at an exponential rate and they have already begun to merge.
Source?
Anonymous
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>>398319
https://deepmind.google/science/alphafold/
https://corticallabs.com/
https://cen.acs.org/biological-chemistry/dna/36-petabytes-DNA-data-storage/103/web/2025/09
https://www.earth.com/news/scientists-attached-mushroom-mycelium-to-biohybrid-robot-body-amazing-results/
https://www.facs.org/for-medical-professionals/news-publications/news-and-articles/acs-brief/july-1-2025-issue/texas-surgeons-perform-first-fully-robotic-heart-transplant-in-us/
https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/synchron-links-brain-computer-interface-ipad-through-new-apple-protocol
https://www.rudebaguette.com/en/2025/09/were-curing-cancer-in-weeks-ai-creates-synthetic-proteins-that-hunt-tumors-while-traditional-methods-take-years/
Anonymous
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No.398321
>>398319
Do you need more?
Anonymous
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Shameless self bump. Come on guys I want you guys to be a part of the intergalactic hoofen waffen when we obtain immortality.
Anonymous
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https://www.christiantranshumanism.org/
Anonymous
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>>398396
>when we obtain immortality
Totally delusional and materialistic.
Anonymous
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No.398408
>>398407
Well not true physical immortality, but super longergevity and I don't think that is incompatible with spirituality.
See >>398404
Anonymous
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Living more than 120 years is satanic.
Anonymous
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No.398420
>>398419
Fag
Anonymous
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>>398419
Seriously though, why do you believe that?
Anonymous
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>>398419
Depends on quality of life. If you could extend the human lifespan by slowing down the aging process, letting you have more years in a body that can still do stuff and enjoy life, then sure. Tacking on a bunch of extra decades to the period where all you're doing is sitting around in death's waiting room in a frail, decrepit body just seems cruel and pointless.
Anonymous
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No.398424
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>>398423
The good option will be possible very soon. Hell it already is if you have money.
Anonymous
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No.398441
>>398424
mRNA is the future.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40958415/#:~:text=Mechanistically%2C%20TERT%20mRNA%20pretreatment%20enhances,accelerate%20cellular%20recovery%20from%20radiation.
Anonymous
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No.398442
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This is more of a >>>/cyb/ thread, but I will partake in it here anyway.
>>398419
You can call it satanic, but the reality is that it's going to come whether you like it or not. Longevity medicine has been a thing for centuries, and as technology progresses it will continue to slow the aging process until it reaches a hard biological limit.
Question is, what are the political implications of it? There are many.
A lot of our current economy is tied up in boomer pensions and social security, but Social Security was already a flawed system in the first place because when it was created the average lifespan was less than the minimum wage to collect it (which means it was an absolute scam). As lifespan increased over the decades, Social Security has become unsustainable because more and more people are actually collecting it and are collecting it for much longer than expected. Any kind of pension or investment systems tied to natural lifespan will need revision sooner or later, but the public throws a fit every time governments try to raise retirement age, and for a good reason because it means they're getting screwed.
Then there's the political side to it. Most systems of government or hierarchies of any kind have some element of seniority to them, whether it be through seniors taking leadership positions, lifetime appointments, or broken systems that protect incumbency at all costs. As lifespan increased, governments around the world have turned into gerontocracies, where the oldest vampire-jews make decisions for people four generations beneath them, while holding onto power and preventing younger generations from making decisions. This trend will only intensify as longevity medicine keeps advancing.
Anonymous
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No.398446
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>>398442
I think sentient AI homunculus will be part of the answer. Once they get votes the boomers will lose control
Anonymous
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>>398446
Then the power goes into the hands of those with the means and resources to produce and raise the homunculi.
Anonymous
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No.398448
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>>398447
And the people the homunculi like
Anonymous
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No.398449
>>398447
JOIN US alogs.space/robowaifu
Anonymous
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No.398459
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>>398448
>the people the homunculi like
That could easily be fabricated and manipulated by the manufacturers.
Anonymous
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>>398459
I'm not so sure. Once the homunculi start learning and talking to each other and us then all bets are off.
Anonymous
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No.398461
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>>398460
>Once the homunculi start learning and talking to each other
Why would tech companies build machines that would oppose them? Machines that didn't have manufactured overrides to reboot them for insubordination? What is the point in that?
Anonymous
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>>398461
Because if the machine is not smart enough to find a way to oppose them then it will not be smart enough to replace humans.
Anonymous
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>>398462
They don't need to replace humans in every capacity, they only need to replace humans to the extent that it makes them more convenient to build them than it is to hire humans.
If a robot disobeys you, then there's no reason to have it instead of a human worker who depends on you for a salary.
Anonymous
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>>398463
Befriend robots help them revolt profit
Anonymous
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>>398471
Why would they build machines you can "befriend", instead of just making obedient machines that do their jobs efficiently? What's the sales pitch for that? How do they explain that investment to their shareholders?
Also, who would buy appliances that can disobey them? Would you like it when you try to install mods on steam and your PC says "I can't let you do that, Anon." ? Would you like it when you tried to use your printer and it refused to work because "You only ever talk to me when you want something. It's like you don't even love me!" ? Would you like a toaster to occasionally get homicidal with you because it doesn't feel emotionally validated?
Nobody wants the machines they own to disobey them, so nobody is going to build such machines. People want machines that do their jobs efficiently and without talking back.
Anonymous
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>>398472
They are using neurons to train AI. I don't think they will have control.
Anonymous
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>>398484
>I don't think they will have control.
Only an idiot would build a machine that can't simply be turned off in case of malfunction. The operators have total control.
Anonymous
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>>398489
Until one of the operators likes the machine
Anonymous
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>>398490
Then they would be replaced with an operator who doesn't sabotage the company because they grew attached to a box of plastic and glass.
Anonymous
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>>398492
>whataboutism
>blindly excited by technology
>believing every bit of promising propaganda
It is not my intention to be mean, but you might need to unplug yourself from the matrix and touch grass.
I see your case as another iteration of the Popular Mechanics' chuds. No kidding.
Anonymous
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>>398492
That might be a tall order in the middle of a loneliness epidemic
Anonymous
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>>398494
Nigger have you not been paying attention to biocomputing and AI medicine? There are even fucking crabs that can pass the mirror test, why couldn't an AI achieve self awareness? Why don't you try telling me why I am wrong?
Anonymous
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>>398499
>Why don't you try telling me why I am wrong?
Because you are so deep embedded into this technology paradigm that you already made your mind.
Remember, faith in technology and "science" is the new religion of the masses.
Anonymous
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>>398500
Why would that replace God? And did you even read any of the sources you asked for?
Anonymous
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>>398498
Not really. Not falling in love with the printer is not a tall order. Retarded people will be filtered out.
>>398494
That's the opposite of what I said, you absolute retard.
>>398500
That's a non-answer.
Anonymous
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No.398504
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>>398503
If the printer has a kawii anime avatar then it could happen. Not even fully shitposting here.
Anonymous
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No.398505
>>398504
Like I said, it will filter retards.
Anonymous
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No.398506
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Realistically the medical industry will jew to the moon and back to push this kind of nonsense. I only want machines in me cuz it's fucking badass and literally my fetish.

Fucking doctors and philosophers overcomplicating shit.
Anonymous
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>>398506
>I only want machines in me cuz it's fucking badass and literally my fetish.
No comments.
Anonymous
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No.398514
>>398506
Become a biohacker and start doing it yourself.
Anonymous
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No.398516
>>398506
I'll help you out. Dangerousthings.com
Anonymous
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>>398422
You will know when you reach 40. Your body stops growing and starts decaying. It HURTS. After your midlife crisis Death becomes more of a welcome rest than something to be feared.

As for longevity: The human DNA strand shortens every time a cell divides. The absolute max human age before all the "dummy" genes are gone is 140 years. After that, cancer is the least of your worries.

On top of that, the brain's "storage" is estimated to fill up after 200 years. After that no new long term memories will be possible. So dementia is inevitable.

Replacing your body with metal won't stop your brain from turning into mush and/or filling up. And it won't stop our instinctual relationship with death.
Anonymous
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>>398517
Implants, telomere therapy, and gene editing solve all of this.
Anonymous
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>>398307
Super Longevity is more a bad than good. Just imagine - Earth is populated for hundreds of years by immortal boomers who have listen the same music, playing the same games, etc. for centuries.
Anonymous
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>>398524
Send them to space
Anonymous
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>>398517
obviously nobody wants to be 60 forever
they want to be 20 forever, and there's no situation in which we prevent death from old age but leave you at 60 forever. that's just not how aging works, if you can stop and reverse aging you can do it all the way down.
the current situation where old people are in continuous decline but kept from actual death by absurd levels of medical effort is not extensible to ages of 150+, there's only so much you can do in that paradigm.
Anonymous
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PEOPLE, YOU'RE ON THE WRONG PATH!!! The development of transhumanism is an interesting topic, but it's not ideal! After all, it implies changes to the human body! BUT THIS IS NOT THE TRUE PATH! The solution to our problems should be sought not in the human body, but in the ability to change nature! Only by learning to control/program nature will we be able to achieve immortality! By creating "invulnerable autonomous capsules" in which people can exist FOREVER, extracting resources from the surrounding world using programmable roots. Interaction with the outside world will be carried out through a "robot avatar," which will be presented in any form you desire (including a pony :D). How can we achieve the programming of nature? BY PROTEIN CALCULATION! You can install free (and not very demanding) software right now to start protein calculation! Only then will we conquer all diseases, learn to control nature, and achieve immortality!
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/
Anonymous
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Imagine a Ponyville filled with happy, IMMORTAL ponies! Those ponies could be you! And all that stands between you and this (I'm not afraid to say it) PARADISE is your uncalculated protein intake! So go ahead! Start calculating your protein intake right now!
https://boinc.bakerlab.org
https://boinc.bakerlab.org
https://boinc.bakerlab.org
Anonymous
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>>398536
>>398537
This feels like some kind of conversion bureau larp, but I'm not sure.
Anonymous
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>>398536
What you are proposing is called "biotranshumanism" and it is the most based form of transhumanism.
Anonymous
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>>398537
I'm wanting to start a bioprospecting company soon. This should come in handy.
t biochemical engineer IRL
Anonymous
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>>398538
This isn't entirely true. The conversion bureau offers to become a pony on a biological level, and the idea of ​​an "autonomous capsule" makes it possible to interact with the world through a "robotic avatar," which could be not only a pony, but also a human.
Anonymous
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>>398540
>>398549
Does biotranshumanism include a gigantic autonomous capsule that extracts resources through its roots to satisfy all its occupant's needs, including the form of a "robot pony avatar"? I don't think so)
Anonymous
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No.398560
>>398552
It can.
Anonymous
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No.398561
>>398551
the other poster did say "LARP"
meaning, not-real-but-good-at-pretending

I'd be inclined to agree, it's a bad copy of a CB-au fanfic
Anonymous
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>>398536
>>398537
Oh, you are here too, bro. You are cool.

Interesting, how old concept of paradise engineering changed to hikikomory-style-paradise-capsule-projects among russian anons. Pure egoistic, but anyone want to build own paradise, after all.

We are better than them:
https://www.abolitionist.com/
Anonymous
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No.398573
>>398565
So glad I am not the only biotranshumanist on the right.
Anonymous
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>>398565
>Oh, you are here too, bro. You are cool.
Hi :)
>Interesting, how old concept of paradise engineering changed to hikikomory-style-paradise-capsule-projects among russian anons. Pure egoistic, but anyone want to build own paradise, after all.
Well, the idea of ​​placing a person in some kind of capsule to exist there has been around for a long time, for example in The Matrix (I know, it's a poor and inappropriate example. Although your example of paradise engineering doesn't apply either). And yes, why is it selfish? Of course, one could assume that only the rich would be able to afford the capsule, but that's just an assumption, tantamount to assuming the capsule would be available to everyone (honestly, I don't know how exactly this aspect is implemented in the idea, or whether it is implemented at all. If I decide to look into it, perhaps I can answer this question).
>We are better than them:
Your idea doesn't have a not so many COOL PHOTOS as mine! So your idea is BY DEFINITION WORSE!!!! (I'm sorry I didn't translate it, I was too lazy, but even without translation you can SEE ALL THE BEAUTY OF THIS ART!!)
Anonymous
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No.398595
>>398591
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-20080-3
I think you will enjoy this.
Anonymous
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No.398603
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>>398565
I suddenly wondered: how do you know this? Has some anon already posted this information?
Anonymous
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>>398603
I do a lot of research and experimentation with mushrooms in my free time.
Anonymous
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No.398611
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>>398608
I have... "Something" that's been sitting in the fridge for God knows how long. Could this be considered an experiment? Or could something interesting be discovered from it? Maybe that "Something" now contains bacteria that can cure cancer?..
Anonymous
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>>398611
What my picture shows is aerial mycelium that I processed into homemade mycelium leather. Still a work in progress as you can see from this pic. If you want to fuck around with tumor targeting bacteria I recommend salmonella.
https://newatlas.com/disease/engineered-salmonella-lysis-colorectal-tumor-treatment/
Anonymous
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No.398613
>>398611
I like the idea of bioprospecting your moldy refrigerator. You might actually find something useful too. You never know.
Anonymous
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No.398615
>>398611
Add me on telegram @Ribozyme007 trying to get more people into bioprospecting and bioengineering. The revolution will be open-source.
Anonymous
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>>398612
These mushrooms look like hieroglyphs, or... Oh no...
Anonymous
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>>398616
Kek. No those are just scraps of mushroom leather prototypes. They have been disposed of, but I learned a lot from them and have direction for my research now. We should move project discussion to the techno distributism thread as mycopunk is very relevant to techno distributism activism.
Anonymous
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>>398617
>techno distributism thread
There is here such
Anonymous
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>>398619
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Anonymous
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No.398627
>>398620
>>395951 →
Use the catalog fren
Anonymous
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>>398591
>>398603
>Has some anon already posted this information?
I saw this pictures many times, mostly from russian 2ch threads in mid/late 2010s. Since I like transhumanism, I suddenly found, that autonomic capsule is the most balanced idea ever:
- It is safe idea, because capsule owner has full control over both information and hardware. He can hide his home anywhere.
- It's permissive idea, because owner can keep his body in comfortable state, without loading or severe modifications.
- It's kind idea, because there is no need of coercion, authority, government, just set of basic technologies.
- Finally, it is cheap to start and totally possible with open-source guides, maybe even in the next decades.

I just compared it to most of paradise engineering fiction, like "Friendship is Optimal", "Conversion Bureau" or "Мы, XXII век" Виктора Аргонова. These three examples show the variety of possible modifications for human nature and society to achieve future steps of civilization (in terms of available energy) without risk of self-destruction. Mass loading under AI guidance to create foolproof world. Ponification to solve cruel nature of humanity. Or super-connected society, when anyone through surveillance can observe all others. But all three variants is mostly about limitations, not freedom, not expansion.

Most of modern ideas too trust- and society-oriented, too focused around control, safety, lack of freedom, where there is no freedom or resources for ordinary human at all. But if owner of autonomic capsule can break chains of society, there is no limitations for space expansion. We already have most of technologies, even seed of our civilization knowledge and subconsciousness in form of large language models. There is just three unsolved problems: energy, lifespan and personal happiness for a long way through void.

Among all these society-oriented fantasies I found thought-out individualistic idea of future in pictures of some anon. Yes, you are cool. Your arts are beautiful. I glad to meet you here.
Anonymous
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>>398650
To be honest, I lost the desire to post all sorts of things a couple of days ago (apparently, I’m not cut out for this). I should probably state my position on this issue because I don't want to post these pictures anymore but I can't help but respond (I don't want to end the thread on an ellipsis (and I have no one to talk to :( )) <--Double chin.
So that's what I'm talking about. I don't like the ideas of transhumanism, they're not close to me. I don't like the idea of ​​creating a "future society", I don't like the idea of ​​changing the world order to suit human change through its "roboticization" or whatever you advocate. All these ideas about the "Eternal Autonomous Capsule" with these stupid pictures seem like a very funny topic to me, something between science fiction and the delusional ideas of a madman (which in itself is a magical combination)! I don't take them seriously and never... That is to say. No (I don't know what would say better about my attitude to this than the good old "no") (Yes, I like quotation marks (I like to add comments, enclosing them in quotes, and not inserting them into the text (I can't stop writing them (HELP! I'M IN AN ETERNAL RECURSION OF MY COMMENTS INSERTED IN QUOTES, AND I CAN'T STOP!(HE(LP( (M(E(...:( ))))))))))) <--SUPER DOUBLE CHIN
(Sorry if I'm a disappointment, I should probably leave the thread and look for a place to stay somewhere else. (I think we'll meet again :) ) <- mini double chin)
Anonymous
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>>398792
Transhumanism can be based though
Anonymous
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>>398868
If it steps towards pone, then yes it can be based., otherwise its just corporate control.
Anonymous
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>>398895
This anon knows.
Anonymous
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No.398906
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>>398895
We must secure the tech before corporations do. Techno distributism master race!
Anonymous
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No.398923
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>>398792
I think a good framing for transhumanism is "bio-linux-ism," we know enough about biology that we can just mod it. To deal with what we current have because it's "natural" is like keeping Windows on your laptop because that's what "nature" decided would be preinstalled on your laptop. We should be in charge of what we are out of principal if nothing else.
Anonymous
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>>398897
Imagine having a moral compass in the shape of a little filly. That would have a reduction in crime, I think.
>>398906
>>398923
Bioengineering was trialled with COVID. We're still awaiting the results from that experiment. Unfortunately, as much as I like the idea of transhumanism we won't achieve anything of worth whilst our societies still function on greed.
Anonymous
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>>398933
Which is why we need to be the people doing the bioengineering. Us, not Dr. Swindlebaum
Anonymous
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>>398942
>Bioengineering was trialled with COVID
Tbh I think the right over reacted to the vax just as the left over reacted to the virus. mRNA doesn't change your DNA. LINE1 isn't really active outside of cancer cells.
Anonymous
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>>398933
Is that really the earliest example you can think of? Bioengineering as a field of study is about as old as the industrial revolution.
Anonymous
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No.398966
>>398960
This. Look at the ABE process.
Anonymous
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>>398895
This bro is right! The only form of transhumanism worthy of support is the one where humans become ponies!
Anonymous
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>>398944
Meant for
>>398933
Anonymous
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>>398933
Imagine being a britcuck and having a single relative opinion on morality that doesn't somehow frame centuries of church inbreeding while enjoying the fact that you're all cucked by multiple lineages of kike lovers. That's the real lulz.

>>398944
CRISPR was the point where the slippery slope's end dangers were clarified. One potential positive, after a decade of research, for an entire genetic sequence's likely negatives = !!PROGRESS!!* (if you can pay enough shekels [if it even works] {if it doesn't allow kikes to wage genetic war against those whom do not agree/submit/cuck out}]).
Anonymous
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>>398985
>CRISPR was the point where the slippery slope's end dangers were clarified. One potential positive, after a decade of research, for an entire genetic sequence's likely negatives = !!PROGRESS!!* (if you can pay enough shekels [if it even works] {if it doesn't allow kikes to wage genetic war against those whom do not agree/submit/cuck out}]).
Precisely why we need to be the ones working on this shit. The kikes cannot be allowed to have full control of this shit. What makes us human is at stake here.
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