the continuation of the last thread.
>>>/mlpol/392216 →News about Israel vs Iran war and related informations.
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>>405867and tonight shit gonna get worse
say good bye to internet
>>405869I felt the vibration...
Maybe you won't believe it, but I found a sim card lying on the ground and started using it. Now I have another account on virsaty even though I don't even know whose poor sim card it is.
>>405870finders keepers
>I felt the vibration...tehran? shiiiit
HERE WE GO AGAIN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
at this point if they just nuke the whole country would be mercy killing compared to whatever the fuck they're doing
>>405871>>405872Just shitposting cause I don't know wtf I should do
>>405839>there is a group in iran that doesn't want negotiations or peace or whatever so they're fucking up thingsAs I see it, Iran needs to advance into Azerbaijan to create a buffer zone of at least 300 miles deep.
>>405874You know, this plan might work on paper, but pan-turks have influence inside the regime. And although azerbaijan is almost openly acting like it sucks jewish dick, it doesn't give Iran a solid excuse to attack.
The group I'm talking about is partly linked to a faction called the Stability Front. Both reformists and moderate conservatives fear them, even though they're mostly empty drums and don't have real practical power. They control more of the domestic media, but lack political influence, otherwise they'd be pushing harder for an attack on azerbaijan.
well...i guess it was nothing burger again
>>405876I don't think so, maybe the vibration was just my paranoid sense, but the conflict is serious this time I guess,
I'll wait...
weirdly enough none the massages updated for me
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>>405873let's be real , we can't do shit
>>405874we just need to take over tajikestan, aramistan and other istans and then the whole world
iran needs to take back her planet
>>405877if internet doesn't get fucked, that means it's nothing
>>405878They don't have any good excuse after pro internet shit,
If they cut it again, they really just fuck themselves...
Trump: Iran is so strong
White house: we gonna become white masque
pope: I converted to islam
EU: now we are part of shia community
IRAN JUST CAN'T STOP WINNING
>>405880Oh come on, both /pig/ and /ptg/ are retarded.
I prefer Hossein Kazemi's analysis
well i heard 7 explosions...now 8 and power went out and after two hour still is out
Euronews: Trump went to the "situation room"; US Secretary of War: We will bomb key Iranian facilities
is there anything even left to bomb?
>>405884well something is happening i guess
eat salami and bravely declare war on US
>>405892>eat salami and bravely declare war on USAnd what do you recommend? Surrender?
Sarcasm aside, the US has not the military means to win this confrontation and this is the precisely the exact reason the delusional western planners relied on regime change from inside Iran; that miserably failed and what remains is attrition. Given that the US industrial capacity is gone, shipped overseas, the prospect to win this war is zero.
>>405896>the US has not the military means to win this confrontationUntrue. It's more of a question how much they are willing to fuck up our economy and global standing to go it.
>Given that the US industrial capacity is gone, shipped overseas, the prospect to win this war is zero.We still produce more weapons than them by far, hundredfold. Military manufacturing is one of the American industries that has not been diminished.
>>405898>We still produce more weapons than them by far, hundredfold.The ones that count (long range missiles and air defenses) cannot be produced at the rate necessary to attack a well armed enemy willing to shoot back; look at the Yemen case, the US declared victory and retired from the Red Sea because could not sustain the ammo expenditure.
>>405895I really hate Anjidani for putting that shit, I erase it in every memes I downloaded there before posting it.
Such a retarded time...
>>405896>Surrender?YES! why would you finger random bears in the wild? when you don't have the capability to fight back or defend yourself???
>the US has not the military means to win this confrontationTime is in benefit of US, either it be blockade to shrink iran's economy or waiting for them to make a deal.
>regime change from inside Iran; that miserably failed Because I.R. is piece of shit with zero morals, they literally put people in sausage factory, they see their people as insect, they have no problem if they had to kill all of us.
> the prospect to win this war is zero.it's not, you americans always can commit war crimes whenever you want, it is in your blood. either it be targeting electricity factories and water sources , fucking hospitals and schools, idk retirement house and there is always a nuke option.
killing everyone and everything.
>>405913>t's not, you americans always can commit war crimes whenever you wantAnd yet, not able to win a war.
there is a mistake that everyone makes is that they think iran is ideological global liberation country.
no iran is tyrannical kleptocrat that uses religion as a weapon only religion to control his supporters and suppress his opponents.
They are leeches and they only suck blood, they found themselves a rich country and they are drying it to death.
all of their islamic bullshitism is an act and they don't want to confront anyone, they just wanna steal shit in peace.
but it was israel's dumb assery that actually took them seriously and started this war. iran would never dare to fuck with anyone , they knew they can't.
>>405906i still don't understand why they use it like a copy right shit, the user still make them.
>>405915>not able to win a war.well Iran is not winning and US not losing either, the war just getting too long than what it was expected. it was a bad timing too world cup is starting.
>>405915I'd say a goal was to move dependence away from that country/region. Another goal was to cut off communist Chinese takeover of entire countries. UAE and others are building pipelines skirting that whole country now. Don't be retarded about "everything USA does is bad", there are lots of functions moving at the same time.
>>405922at least that was the plan ig , was not entirely successful.
>dependence away from that countryUS always was independence from iran.
>Chinese takeover of entire countrieschina still massively is a big head in the world's market and US's,
and if they push them to hard, we gonna see another pandemic.well all of this would instantly go back to lvl 1 if in the next election a left leaning candidate comes in power, and by seeing the republican's popularity, it is very possible.
>>405922and
>Don't be retarded about "everything USA does is bad"it is still heavily confusing if not down right retarded.
even experts can't make sense of it, it's hard to explain.
sometimes seems like trump's team just think of an idea out of nowhere and decide to see if it works along the way without hardly analyze it if it actually works or not
other problem is:
trump lies a lot , like a lot
"no more wars"
"america first"
"helps on the way"
"regime change"
"2 weeks war"
"we destroyed their everythings"
"they desperate to make a deal"
"they have nothing to fight back with"
"iran was one week from building a nuclear weapon"
etc etc
>>405899>The ones that count (long range missiles and air defenses) cannot be produced at the rate necessary to attack a well armed enemy willing to shoot backWhere are you getting this? Do you have any idea how many weapons the USA manufactures?
The problem isn't that the USA can't manufacture enough weapons. The problem is that it is much, much, much more expensive to manufacture missiles and air defense than it is to manufacture cheap drones, so no matter how well armed the US military is or how strong US manufacturing is the US it becomes exponentially more expensive if the USA wants to win the war by sheer weapons superiority alone, and ZOG is getting queasy over the economic cost because they're running up a massive bill over a war that was started for basically no reason.
>look at the Yemen case, the US declared victory and retired from the Red Sea because could not sustain the ammo expenditure.The US withdrew from that area when they decided that the levels of
>>405919>iran would never dare to fuck with anyone , they knew they can't.Then why they support anti-israel terrorist rebels around borders of Jewland? Or attack it with drones and missles in April 2024?
>>405946>anti-israel terrorist rebels around borders of JewlandYou mean zog passive false flagers?
>attack it with drones and missles in April 2024?Because Iran could handle israel itself, but they didn't expect Trump will be on kike's cock that much.
>>405945>targeting fresh waternice, now it's time to use toxin bioware weapon against the unarmed citizens, poisoning water and bombing orphanages.
complete the new GLA missions.
>>405946there is different between dircet and indirect war.
but if you talking about hamas, they never were iran backed.
most of its donors are jewish why? to weaken the Palestinian movement and show them just as bunch of terrorists.
the bullshit that israel pulled up during oct 7 leaving a famous festival massively ungaurded so hamas fully attack them with cinematic cameras and full unit; all of it was for israel to make themselves the victims so they have a good reason to freely annex gaza and escalate the war further with Iran.
>Because Iran could handle israel itself.idk 12 days war suggests otherwise. i wouldn't call that handling.
Trump said that they won't attack tonight
fucking moody asshole.
>>405957Also, you should know Hamas stems from the ideas of the Muslim Brotherhood, which are inherently at odds with Iran; sometimes it just tries less hard to hide that. The syrian regime today is also a product of those same ideas and clearly opposes Iran.
>idk 12 days war suggests otherwise. i wouldn't call that handling.He was talking about the April 2024 clashes, while during the 12‑day israel war he thought he could change the regime, at a time when hezbollah was weakened and Assad regime had fallen, but by prolonging that war Iran managed to shift the long‑term balance in its favor. Trump's intervention in the war saved israel's ass; otherwise, in a war of attrition israel would have been badly hurt over the long run.
>>405958Trump mocks MAGAtards everyday with his paradoxical tweets, like Ghalibaf and Araghchi mock arzeshitards.
>"To defeat your enemies, you should dick your supporters first">Ghali/Trump Tzu >>405945i fact checked, they didn't attack any water sources.
something about not wanting to put innocent citizen under pressure.
>US Strikes Iran – Iran Hits Back at CRITICAL Targets IMMEDIATELYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIJI1Lwr2AUThis guy is gold making the military assessment of the conflict. The US cannot win.
By the way, the ruskie has already 4 books published describing the unavoidable debacle of the West, not because of he is a futurologist but because he manages hard data about economy, technology, academy and demography.
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>>405978that guy nima is iranian, and a fucking iran's government shill
>>405979>that guy nima is iranian, and a fucking iran's government shillYeah, I'm aware. Nevertheless he has very interesting guests.
>>405980well just like russo-ukraine war there are many varietion of channels that are either sucking ukries or ruskies dicks
it is just like that
propaganda channels that based on what side you like they make what you like to hear or what the govs behind them want you to hear.
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a question, do you even care about iran? like sympathy , interest?
>>405982I care only about the US and I'm afraid this business is not going to end up well.
>>405984understandable
weirdly i have the same opinion about iran
i feel like Us and Iran really should stop fighting over ((someone))else's problems.
i don't see a reason to make a new thread unless an important even happens
today US and Iran will sign a "memorandum of understanding" then they will began a 60 days of cease fire to negotiate about the Nuclear subject or enriched uranium.
Trump claims that the Strait of Hormuz will be opened.
If this operation is successful, we will soon see the end of the war.
and everyone lives happily ever after.
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>>406016Time will tell. One can only hope everyone will live happily ever after.
But Israel will likely try to reignite the conflict.
A memorandum of understanding was signed between the United States and Iran
This memorandum has 14 clauses as follows:
1.The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and their allies in the current war by signing this MoU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. Final deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and other provisions of this paragraph.
2.The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran undertake to respect each other's sovereignty and territorial integrity and to refrain from interfering in each other's internal affairs.
3.The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran commit to negotiating and achieving the final deal in maximum 60 days, extendable with mutual consent.
4.Immediately upon the signing of this MoU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of pre-war traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.
5.Upon the signing of this MoU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements using its best efforts for the safe passage of commercial vessels with no charge for 60 days only from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, and considering the need for removing the technical and military obstacles and demining by the Islamic Republic of Iran, will be instated within 30 days. The Islamic Republic of Iran will conduct dialogue with the Sultanate of Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz in discussion with other Persian Gulf littoral states in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz.
6.The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least $300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.
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7.The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions, i.e. IAEA Board of Governors resolutions and all unilateral US sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed-upon schedule as part of the final deal. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions-termination issue abovementioned, and expressed their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations, in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.
8.The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpiled enriched material, pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in Paragraph Seven, with the minimum methodology to be downblending on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran's nuclear needs based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues abovementioned and express their intention to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.
9.Pending the final deal, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree to maintain the status quo. The Islamic Republic of Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, and the United States of America will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region.
10.The United States of America undertakes that immediately upon the signing of this MoU until the termination of sanctions, the US Department of Treasury will issue waivers for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.
11.The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of this MoU. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during the negotiations. Such funds, either retained in the original account or transferred, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly.
12.The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree that an executive mechanism will be established to monitor the successful implementation of this MoU and the future compliance of the final deal.
13.After signing this MoU and subject to the beginning of the implementation of Paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10 and 11 of this MoU and the continuing implementation of these measures, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will start negotiations regarding the final deal exclusively on the other paragraphs.
14The final deal will be endorsed by a binding [UN Security Council] resolution.
TL;DR
wait till 60 days or even after world cup so for everyone to say SIKE!!!