a lil thread for creative ideologies/philosophy
<What are your guys self-made ideology or even self-made political philosophy?
Not just the common average natzi , commie , cappie , anarchy , radical centry etc - your own ideology
I'll be glad to hear about yours
The more creative and the well thought the better
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>>388682>I'm getting off-topic herei don't think you are
crime is always a human interest when something is illegal or prohibited , human mind gets more attracted toward it
>>388683i think i saw something related to it
when they are observing the atoms
they see some lights shooting around like asteroid
(i guess i was wrong then)
but i don't think it is possible to see protons , neutron and electrons ...yet cause they are inside an atom or around them , spinning so fast that make the atom look like a self-centered cloud
>>388680>do stupid detrimental shit>get punished>durrrrr... its all philosophicalThese always have some quantitative loss which has fuck all to do with philosophy, only part that is philosophical is that what punishment should be.
meanwhile actually philosophical shitlaws
>someone may do maybe detrimental shit >punish them pre-emptivelyThese always can be compressed to point where its just some retard saying "Because i think it is like this" or "Because i believe this and that because of this and that, we should..."
So again, fuck philosophy.
only somewhat philosophical laws im up for are
freedom of speech: As in retard may say what fucking ever he wants, but if its about causing detrimental shit and said detrimental shit happens, then retard will be held accountable.
freedom of belief/thought: Safeguard law against retards trying to do mind policing, meaning retards can believe whatever, but doesn't in any manner mean any kind of freedom of action based on belief.
but fuck freedom of religion, there should never be any kind of philosophical joker law that acknowledges some bullshit group.
[Read more] >>388672anon didn't go night night award
i know a local saying "morning wiser than evening", just pointing out that we solve problems easier after sleep
let's see what will you say tomorrow
>>388686i am not in america and i have a shitty sleeping schedule
but feel free bro , see you tommorow
>>388685Define "detrimental shit" I expect you will say murder but groups throughout history have allowed murder such as the Romans allowing nobles to kill their servants for any reason at all.
>>388689if you want roman society, then go with roman laws
>>388690I don't not. I want something better than what we have now and I want to convince others to get on board. To do that I need to justify my position and why I believe what I believe.
Question - Why do humans wear clothes?
>>388692go outside in winter or walk on rocks without clothes to see what happens to your body
also it became a norm after a while
also FASHION and Style Darling
>>388693>surface level answerNo wonder you need people to tell you what to think.
>>388694eh i am just not a naturist or nudist
>>388695All animals are naturally adapted to their environments, humans aren't. Why?
>>388689detrimental shit as in destructive action where action target isn't owned by perpetrator.
And then that gets accompanied by other laws plugging holes and edge cases, like animal cruelty laws for cases where perpetrator owns animal.
>>388696i don't wanna be like /x/ but i believe we don't belong here
or maybe we are biologically and intentionally changed
<becomes /x/ anyway >>388697Pretty vague. How would you categorize socially harmful shit like usury or troon shit?
i need get off too now it is late,
i am thankful to all of you for your great thoughts and sharing , i really love this type of conversations
respect
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you can mention me and i will answer when i got back
>>388700>Pretty vague. How would you categorize socially harmful shit like usury or troon shit?sadly can't. but part that i already said solves it, meaning throw philosophy into dumpster from education system on all levels, this means no gender studies or any similar shit exists anymore. That basically destroys academic backing of any such bullshit. People are still free to do shit on their own, but without systemic backing it will turn back into fringe culture.
>>388705If it can be demonstrated that troon drives underaged into self harm or sexual acts, then thats fully in territory of child protection laws.
But basically if adult goes and chops his dick off due reading troonshit online, that is pretty much shrug.
>>388707Sounds pretty libertarian.
>>388707I don't care what its labeled as long i can logically tell how i reach conclusion. So its never part of my thought process that i must do something because some ideology says shit must be done that way.
>>388709But your thought process is entirely libertarian even if you do not call it as such. There are plenty of critiques of your positions even if you do not want to identify with the label of libertarian because ideology is le bad. I don't understand why you would be upset about people discussing the underlying thought processes that lead to their positions...
People will put labels toward you, and you will label them, that's how life works. You don't necessarily have to follow their label or even your own, just focus on what communicates better.
>>388711Basically, people think that if they can label something, or someone, then they understand it. People are rarely so easy to categorize.
>my little identity politics
the common though that all things need some kind of classification is connected to autism, not that it matters that much though
these identity crises, where people can't even classify themselves, are common leads to gender dysphoria apparently as well
>>388627>welcomehey fren. I don't have the time to read and post about this right now, but I'll try to make some time later.
I just wanna pop-by to remind people that arguments are not about wining but about learning, that is the whole point of logical fallacies and critical thinking.
It's ok if two anons can't reach an agreement as long as you both understand why the other holds the viewpoint they hold.
You are not keyboard warriors, anon, if you reached this place, you are above that. Arguing from feelings is not useful, go to the gym for that and argue with your muscles.
>>388726i believe everyone has some percentage of autism
but the amount of autism is low in most people that it does not clearly show it
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related to your text
it is so goddamn rare to find a lgtv fag who does not have daddy issue or symptoms related to autism
>>388731hey , you do you bro , wish you luck in your journey
>>388628>i expect so much better than human beingsI agree with all your points, but I share this view with you. I can only hope some guidance is all that future generations need in order to realize that things can be much better, I made it my mission to try and improve myself so I can spread this idea.
There is really no one but man to blame for man's problems.
>>388735>There is really no one but man to blame for man's problemsFACTS anon
also it is a great motive to trying to improve yourself
and i agree with you on going to gym and lift heavy object for the muscles
it is cool that people here in /mlpol/ give good advices
>>388732i know two fags, both of them have some level of autism, but only one is problematic
then i used to know one troon guy, who was really chill and interesting
then what i see on the internet, lgbtfags seem way worse than irl so i cant tell
>>388738i had a troon friend as well , keep telling me he should act more like women and he should not swear
and i told him what kinda stereotype are you going for rn?
i know many women in my alley that are bunch of thugs and thots who would swear and beat the shit out of you
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troons have so much inner conflicts with themselves
it is mostly due to having an insecure mindset who cares too much about what society thinks about you
>>388739also not to mention that i meet kids in age of between 14-16 that think they are troons , and i always tell em that you guys are just in the molting age era and your mind is just a spaghetti and you guys might grow up and realize you were not really a troon and it was just a weird mood
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also mostly due to western society weirdly advertising lgtv to kids and telling them those people are better and kinda brainwashing them that being a troon or any type of fag would make them more interesting and more valuable as a human being
I blame governments and their policies
>>388709Skimming through your posts, it seems you are both really passionate about hating philosophy, and also mix philosophy and ideologies.
If you want to hate philosophy more effectively, why don't you study the origins of philosophy?
You can start with the socratic method if you want, I think it's a cool place to start:
https://www.socraticmethod.net/ >>388741mind , body and soul
also you guys can read the ''Sofies verden''
it is a great book and simple explanation of history of philosophy
link:https://archive.org/details/sfdsj/ Update:
talk about any philosophy you want , new or old
no need for it to be just ''your own self-made''
>>388868I take shit from everwhere. If there is a clear resonance within me, I copy paste it into my own mosaic. I've got jewish mysticism, sufi shit, some jesus shit, some extradimentional channeling shit because it was revealed in a dream, some western philosophy, some chanology, even a tiny bit of hitlerism even if only ironic... I mean yeah... Pretty much the OP's picrel
>>388872same , idk why but i love every religions and every philosophies in any shape or form
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Jewish mysticism mainly was under influence of Egyptians from the time that they were enslaved by em
sufists are cool because they so many branches with so many different Povs
Jesus's teachings are cool and it is good to have a calmer and an humble way of living
7 deadly sins and seven heavenly virtues are very useful
>>388879I forgot about the eastern stuff, the vedas, the dao etc... A lot of interesting stuff in yoga. I see all of these traditions as little fragments of a mirror to know the self.
>>388880it is a fair game imo
i guess it is useful as far as it can help someone to self-improve themselves
i tried meditation and yoga alot , it helped but i realized i am not in a calm mood when there is so much shit going on around the world
I find it helps to balance the bad by focusing on the good and amplifying that. Some would suggest to ignore the bad, but I don't think that's good advice. The bad is also a mirror and if you don't look, you miss half your reflection and thus you can never know yourself.
But take it all in doses and balance it. Silence comes naturally as you get better at balancing.
Always try to keep in the back of your mind when you see the bad stuff: that too is the creator and if it is there, it is there for good reason. And as long as it triggers you, it has something to teach you.
>>388897>[anon said some based facts]thanks anon , your sentences really did helped me rn
i always wanted to know myself better but i never realized that i am unpredictable as well and it is not possible to fully understand myself
balancing your yin and yang is a hard thing to do but it is a challenge that should be done to maintain your life choices in a better way of decision making
thanks!
There's no rush and try to discover peace in the balancing process and don't obsess over avoiding bad choices because it's usually the bad choices that turn out to be the best teachers. There are no mistakes.
[YouTube] Why Free Will Doesn’t Exist
[Embed]This is one of the most concise summaries of how 'freewill' is a logically fallacious concept. For bonus points, Ben Shapiro is on the receiving end of this beating.
Free will exists. The chemicals in your brain making sure your heart keeps beating does not mean free will doesn't exist. You not being able to jump 50 feet in the air or have sex with Luna does not mean reality is predtermined. You using a semantically flawed definition of "free will" doesn't mean we're forced to exist under the oppressive boot of a demiurgic puppetmaster.
>>389001I'm not advocating for the position in the video, I'm amused because it's logically sound AND it shut Ben Shapiro up for a second.
Having said, you start from a position
>Free will existsbut then go into rhetorical examples of how certain phenomena don't discount the existence of free will, while avoiding the salient argument.
I'm quite on the fence about it, because the absence of free will nullifies the concept of Will, which is central to metaphysics.
>>389006Oh NO, my post didn't live up to your expectations, let me find a fainting couch rarity for you
>>389010>AND it shut Ben Shapiro up for a second.An ape in a zoo will stop howling if it sees the elephant try to shove a fence post up its ass. It doesn't mean the elephant made any particularly good points.